Post your breaking news here.
~Brian
(http://www.foxnews.com/images/467861/0_61_hitler_adolf.jpg)
An extraordinary account from a German army medic has finally confirmed what the world long suspected: Hitler only had one testicle.
War veteran Johan Jambor made the revelation to a priest in the 1960s, who wrote it down.
The priest's document has now come to light –- 23 years after Jambor's death.
The war tyrant's medical condition has been mocked for years in a British song.
The lyrics are: "Hitler has only got one ball, the other is in the Albert Hall. His mother, the dirty b****r, cut it off when he was small."
Until now there has never been complete proof Hitler was monorchic — the medical term for having one testicle.
But the document tells how Jambor saw the proof with his own eyes. In the account, he relives the horror of serving as an army medic in World War I.
He died aged 94 in 1985, but had told his secret to priest Franciszek Pawlar, who kept a note of their conversation.
Johan's friend Blassius Hanczuch confirmed the priest's account of how the medic saved Hitler's life. He said: "In 1916 they had their hardest fight in the Battle of the Somme.
"For several hours, Johan and his friends picked up injured soldiers. He remembers Hitler.
"They called him the 'Screamer.' He was very noisy. Hitler was screaming 'help, help.'
"His abdomen and legs were all in blood. Hitler was injured in the abdomen and lost one testicle. His first question to the doctor was: 'Will I be able to have children?'"
Hitler's genitals have long caused controversy. Some historians dismissed the "one ball" song as propaganda. But an alleged Soviet autopsy on Hitler backed it up.
Records show Hitler did suffer a groin injury in the Somme.
Story via FoxNews.com
~Brian
Peels is out of the closet.
A$$! I like the closet just fine, I am staying in there! :lol:
Missing Link discovered in Chicago. :lol:
Aunt Flow is in town and Buddha needs a place to crash for a week. :(
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:04:48 PM
Aunt Flow is in town and Buddha needs a place to crash for a week. :(
You don't want to stay here....pregnant = half crazy, half horny.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:05:54 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:04:48 PM
Aunt Flow is in town and Buddha needs a place to crash for a week. :(
You don't want to stay here....pregnant = half crazy, half horny.
I'll take my chances.
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
plan C...run around butt-naked screaming "mommy mommy mommy"
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your
retirement account. :confused:
No I don't need to worry excessivley, but.. when I have a crap ton in there and I've lost 1/2 of it.... and dropping... kind of sucks. :(
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your retirement account. :confused:
Yeah, kerkorian thought it was cheap and a good time to buy too...ended up losing over 700million out of a 1billion dollar investment as ford shares dropped from $7 to $2.
PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. — A man faces a domestic battery charge after allegedly hitting his girlfriend with a sandwich as she was driving.
Police said the 19-year-old man became angry and hit the woman in the arm and face with a sandwich, knocking her glasses off, as she was driving along Interstate 95 on Friday.
The victim nearly lost control of the car because she couldn't see the road. Her boyfriend then allegedly ripped off the rear-view mirror and used it to shatter the windshield.
He was arrested, jailed and later freed on $7,500 bail.
Police haven't said what type of sandwich was involved.
FoxNews.com is getting really desperate these days.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your retirement account. :confused:
Yeah, kerkorian thought it was cheap and a good time to buy too...ended up losing over 700million out of a 1billion dollar investment as ford shares dropped from $7 to $2.
Ford? I wouldn't take any Domestic auto stock on a bet. Seriously, who the FERK buys domestic auto stock? I didn't even know that was an option. I've seen this day coming for a long time with the big three. And Ford was an Anti Semite so FERK him.
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your retirement account. :confused:
Yeah, kerkorian thought it was cheap and a good time to buy too...ended up losing over 700million out of a 1billion dollar investment as ford shares dropped from $7 to $2.
It IS a great time to buy. And Kerkorian was a dumb ass for putting any money into Ford. That's just common sense.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your retirement account. :confused:
Yeah, kerkorian thought it was cheap and a good time to buy too...ended up losing over 700million out of a 1billion dollar investment as ford shares dropped from $7 to $2.
It IS a great time to buy. And Kerkorian was a dumb ass for putting any money into Ford. That's just common sense.
Common sense said hold on to Enron shares too. ???
Just trying to say that conventional wisdom isn't always right and that every action in this kind of market facing the future we do needs to be analyzed with considerable attention and scrutiny.
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:26:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your retirement account. :confused:
Yeah, kerkorian thought it was cheap and a good time to buy too...ended up losing over 700million out of a 1billion dollar investment as ford shares dropped from $7 to $2.
It IS a great time to buy. And Kerkorian was a dumb ass for putting any money into Ford. That's just common sense.
Common sense said hold on to Enron shares too. ???
Poor example. It was a great company on paper, who knew they were cooking the books. But you go ahead and keep your money in your mattress.
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:26:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your retirement account. :confused:
Yeah, kerkorian thought it was cheap and a good time to buy too...ended up losing over 700million out of a 1billion dollar investment as ford shares dropped from $7 to $2.
It IS a great time to buy. And Kerkorian was a dumb ass for putting any money into Ford. That's just common sense.
Common sense said hold on to Enron shares too. ???
Hey Mad Dog, you do realize that you are "moving the goal post" right? I thought a football analogy was aprapos in describing your debate methodology today. :confused:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:26:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your retirement account. :confused:
Yeah, kerkorian thought it was cheap and a good time to buy too...ended up losing over 700million out of a 1billion dollar investment as ford shares dropped from $7 to $2.
It IS a great time to buy. And Kerkorian was a dumb ass for putting any money into Ford. That's just common sense.
Common sense said hold on to Enron shares too. ???
Poor example. It was a great company on paper, who knew they were cooking the books. But you go ahead and keep your money in your mattress.
You make it sound like I have a positive cashflow or something? :lol:
100 bucks is a good start.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:26:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your retirement account. :confused:
Yeah, kerkorian thought it was cheap and a good time to buy too...ended up losing over 700million out of a 1billion dollar investment as ford shares dropped from $7 to $2.
It IS a great time to buy. And Kerkorian was a dumb ass for putting any money into Ford. That's just common sense.
Common sense said hold on to Enron shares too. ???
Poor example. It was a great company on paper, who knew they were cooking the books. But you go ahead and keep your money in your mattress.
Gotta be more safe than putting it into any company right now. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:29:54 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:26:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your retirement account. :confused:
Yeah, kerkorian thought it was cheap and a good time to buy too...ended up losing over 700million out of a 1billion dollar investment as ford shares dropped from $7 to $2.
It IS a great time to buy. And Kerkorian was a dumb ass for putting any money into Ford. That's just common sense.
Common sense said hold on to Enron shares too. ???
Poor example. It was a great company on paper, who knew they were cooking the books. But you go ahead and keep your money in your mattress.
You make it sound like I have a positive cashflow or something? :lol:
Well, if you would quit paying back MSU for that "education" that would be a start. :confused:
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:28:54 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:26:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your retirement account. :confused:
Yeah, kerkorian thought it was cheap and a good time to buy too...ended up losing over 700million out of a 1billion dollar investment as ford shares dropped from $7 to $2.
It IS a great time to buy. And Kerkorian was a dumb ass for putting any money into Ford. That's just common sense.
Common sense said hold on to Enron shares too. ???
Hey Mad Dog, you do realize that you are "moving the goal post" right? I thought a football analogy was aprapos in describing your debate methodology today. :confused:
Aprapos and methodology in one post? JEEZ! Even grammar ninja blushing. :lol:
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:26:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your retirement account. :confused:
Yeah, kerkorian thought it was cheap and a good time to buy too...ended up losing over 700million out of a 1billion dollar investment as ford shares dropped from $7 to $2.
It IS a great time to buy. And Kerkorian was a dumb ass for putting any money into Ford. That's just common sense.
Common sense said hold on to Enron shares too. ???
Poor example. It was a great company on paper, who knew they were cooking the books. But you go ahead and keep your money in your mattress.
Gotta be more safe than putting it into any company right now. :rolleyes:
I could give you a list of at least 50 companies that I would dump money into. Great times right now.
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:31:33 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:29:54 PM
You make it sound like I have a positive cashflow or something? :lol:
Well, if you would quit paying back MSU for that "education" that would be a start. :confused:
Hell, that'd be a Corvette payment :grin_nod:
Quote from: Peels660 on November 19, 2008, 02:32:51 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:28:54 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:26:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your retirement account. :confused:
Yeah, kerkorian thought it was cheap and a good time to buy too...ended up losing over 700million out of a 1billion dollar investment as ford shares dropped from $7 to $2.
It IS a great time to buy. And Kerkorian was a dumb ass for putting any money into Ford. That's just common sense.
Common sense said hold on to Enron shares too. ???
Hey Mad Dog, you do realize that you are "moving the goal post" right? I thought a football analogy was aprapos in describing your debate methodology today. :confused:
Aprapos and methodology in one post? JEEZ! Even grammar ninja blushing. :lol:
You know that I'm just trying to impress the pants off you peels. ;)
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:33:29 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:26:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your retirement account. :confused:
Yeah, kerkorian thought it was cheap and a good time to buy too...ended up losing over 700million out of a 1billion dollar investment as ford shares dropped from $7 to $2.
It IS a great time to buy. And Kerkorian was a dumb ass for putting any money into Ford. That's just common sense.
Common sense said hold on to Enron shares too. ???
Poor example. It was a great company on paper, who knew they were cooking the books. But you go ahead and keep your money in your mattress.
Gotta be more safe than putting it into any company right now. :rolleyes:
I could give you a list of at least 50 companies that I would dump money into. Great times right now.
Shoot me your list...
Seeing every company except I believe... 10 out of the 3000+ on the nasdaq have lost money the past year and a half.....
and buddha, if you're trying to get peels out of his pants. take it to PM's... :mad:
:rofl:
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:33:46 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:31:33 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:29:54 PM
You make it sound like I have a positive cashflow or something? :lol:
Well, if you would quit paying back MSU for that "education" that would be a start. :confused:
Hell, that'd be a Corvette payment :grin_nod:
At least it's not a Ford. :thumbs:
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:35:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:33:29 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:26:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your retirement account. :confused:
Yeah, kerkorian thought it was cheap and a good time to buy too...ended up losing over 700million out of a 1billion dollar investment as ford shares dropped from $7 to $2.
It IS a great time to buy. And Kerkorian was a dumb ass for putting any money into Ford. That's just common sense.
Common sense said hold on to Enron shares too. ???
Poor example. It was a great company on paper, who knew they were cooking the books. But you go ahead and keep your money in your mattress.
Gotta be more safe than putting it into any company right now. :rolleyes:
I could give you a list of at least 50 companies that I would dump money into. Great times right now.
Shoot me your list...
Seeing every company except I believe... 10 out of the 3000+ on the nasdaq have lost money the past year and a half.....
and buddha, if you're trying to get peels out of his pants. take it to PM's... :mad:
:rofl:
Most companies have lost a ton over the last year and a half, but didn't anyone teach you to buy low? Or did you really think it would keep falling forever?
No not forever, but I would wager that some sectors haven't seen bottom yet.
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:35:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:33:29 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:26:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your retirement account. :confused:
Yeah, kerkorian thought it was cheap and a good time to buy too...ended up losing over 700million out of a 1billion dollar investment as ford shares dropped from $7 to $2.
It IS a great time to buy. And Kerkorian was a dumb ass for putting any money into Ford. That's just common sense.
Common sense said hold on to Enron shares too. ???
Poor example. It was a great company on paper, who knew they were cooking the books. But you go ahead and keep your money in your mattress.
Gotta be more safe than putting it into any company right now. :rolleyes:
I could give you a list of at least 50 companies that I would dump money into. Great times right now.
Shoot me your list...
Seeing every company except I believe... 10 out of the 3000+ on the nasdaq have lost money the past year and a half.....
and buddha, if you're trying to get peels out of his pants. take it to PM's... :mad:
:rofl:
I won't answer them! :lol:
yes, I agree. But I expect a turn around some time mid 09. And I don't see it falling at the same rate it has been.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:38:01 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:35:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:33:29 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:26:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your retirement account. :confused:
Yeah, kerkorian thought it was cheap and a good time to buy too...ended up losing over 700million out of a 1billion dollar investment as ford shares dropped from $7 to $2.
It IS a great time to buy. And Kerkorian was a dumb ass for putting any money into Ford. That's just common sense.
Common sense said hold on to Enron shares too. ???
Poor example. It was a great company on paper, who knew they were cooking the books. But you go ahead and keep your money in your mattress.
Gotta be more safe than putting it into any company right now. :rolleyes:
I could give you a list of at least 50 companies that I would dump money into. Great times right now.
Shoot me your list...
Seeing every company except I believe... 10 out of the 3000+ on the nasdaq have lost money the past year and a half.....
and buddha, if you're trying to get peels out of his pants. take it to PM's... :mad:
:rofl:
Most companies have lost a ton over the last year and a half, but didn't anyone teach you to buy low? Or did you really think it would keep falling forever?
I understand buy low sell high... simple concepts... my intent of the question was is now the right time to buy low? There's no end in sight right now to the market stopping its downward spiral.
Obviously the market in general is a huge risk because unless you have some super powers knowing the future its completely unpredictable.. Was just looking for some insight from someone who know's more about it than myself. that's all.
and buddha, if you're trying to get peels out of his pants. take it to PM's... :mad:
:rofl:
[/quote]
I won't answer them! :lol:
[/quote]
Don't play... :confused:
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:41:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:38:01 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:35:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:33:29 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:31:01 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:26:12 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:13:19 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:09:53 PM
Dow Jones industrial average falling below the 8,000 mark
Whats advisable? Keep pumping money into my 401k or slow it back a bit? ???
Now is the best time to buy. Everything is cheap. And I think you're a little young to be worrying about your retirement account. :confused:
Yeah, kerkorian thought it was cheap and a good time to buy too...ended up losing over 700million out of a 1billion dollar investment as ford shares dropped from $7 to $2.
It IS a great time to buy. And Kerkorian was a dumb ass for putting any money into Ford. That's just common sense.
Common sense said hold on to Enron shares too. ???
Poor example. It was a great company on paper, who knew they were cooking the books. But you go ahead and keep your money in your mattress.
Gotta be more safe than putting it into any company right now. :rolleyes:
I could give you a list of at least 50 companies that I would dump money into. Great times right now.
Shoot me your list...
Seeing every company except I believe... 10 out of the 3000+ on the nasdaq have lost money the past year and a half.....
and buddha, if you're trying to get peels out of his pants. take it to PM's... :mad:
:rofl:
Most companies have lost a ton over the last year and a half, but didn't anyone teach you to buy low? Or did you really think it would keep falling forever?
I understand buy low sell high... simple concepts... my intent of the question was is now the right time to buy low? There's no end in sight right now to the market stopping its downward spiral.
Obviously the market in general is a huge risk because unless you have some super powers knowing the future its completely unpredictable.. Was just looking for some insight from someone who know's more about it than myself. that's all.
No problem, I'll PM you a list later tonight. Right now I see strength in the medical field. Yahoo was a great buy on monday, and bank stocks should be prime to pick up soon due to the bail out funds starting to take affect.
psh, that's if the government gets off its ass and gets going with the bailout crap... now it just seems you have more and more big companies going.. "ooh government look over here. We're having problems too, we need x billion dollars to fix it....."
everyone is in line for a hand out, but I'm sure the credit market will take precedence .
Capitalists are all about laissez faire until they see their own neck on the chopping block.
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:48:59 PM
Capitalists are all about laissez faire until they see their own neck on the chopping block.
I agree, and someone has to write the check.
Nice big word drop for peels.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:50:41 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:48:59 PM
Capitalists are all about laissez faire until they see their own neck on the chopping block.
I agree, and someone has to write the check.
Nice big word drop for peels.
That was Mad Dog. :confused:
Yeah, and Ford and GM's rep flew to Washington on private jets.
Detroit to Washington via Northwest $288 roundtrip coach. First Class $857
Round trip via Gulfstream 4, $20,000.
~Brian
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:51:31 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:50:41 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:48:59 PM
Capitalists are all about laissez faire until they see their own neck on the chopping block.
I agree, and someone has to write the check.
Nice big word drop for peels.
That was Mad Dog. :confused:
:rofl:
Econ minor comes back to rear it's ugly head.
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:51:31 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:50:41 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:48:59 PM
Capitalists are all about laissez faire until they see their own neck on the chopping block.
I agree, and someone has to write the check.
Nice big word drop for peels.
That was Mad Dog. :confused:
He has his thesaurus out.
Quote from: Flynbyu on November 19, 2008, 02:52:05 PM
Yeah, and Ford and GM's rep flew to Washington on private jets.
Detroit to Washington via Northwest $288 roundtrip coach. First Class $857
Round trip via Gulfstream 4, $20,000.
~Brian
They own the jet, but thats par for fuel costs, and uncle sam will be picking up that tab in a write off.
laissez faire is a small word that appears fancy only because it is in french. :lol:
But thanks. It is a nice change from duals and nucular. :lol:
Quote from: Peels660 on November 19, 2008, 02:53:52 PM
laissez faire is a small word that appears fancy only because it is in french. :lol:
But thanks. It is a nice change from duals and nucular. :lol:
actually it's a phrase, but that's a technicality.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:52:38 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 02:51:31 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:50:41 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:48:59 PM
Capitalists are all about laissez faire until they see their own neck on the chopping block.
I agree, and someone has to write the check.
Nice big word drop for peels.
That was Mad Dog. :confused:
He has his thesaurus out.
G-o-o-g-l-e :lol:
f*ck.. you guys and these big words. I've had to google meanings 4 times today....
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
f*ck.. you guys and these big words. I've had to google meanings 4 times today....
Don't hate the player Krandall, hate the game. :lol:
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
f*ck.. you guys and these big words. I've had to google meanings 4 times today....
That's what you get with an online degree.
:lol:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
f*ck.. you guys and these big words. I've had to google meanings 4 times today....
That's what you get with an online degree.
:lol:
So the University of Phoenix isn't actually in Phoenix? ??? :lol:
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 02:56:24 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on November 19, 2008, 02:53:52 PM
laissez faire is a small word that appears fancy only because it is in french. :lol:
But thanks. It is a nice change from duals and nucular. :lol:
actually it's a phrase, but that's a technicality.
True
but...we's just dumb americuns, we don't need them big ole' fancy words. :lol:
Don't let em give you $hit about your school. You sure is a fart smeller!
Krandall, you can't always truast those google meanings. Ask Brian how to spell Bob Vila. :lol:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:53:31 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on November 19, 2008, 02:52:05 PM
Yeah, and Ford and GM's rep flew to Washington on private jets.
Detroit to Washington via Northwest $288 roundtrip coach. First Class $857
Round trip via Gulfstream 4, $20,000.
~Brian
They own the jet, but thats par for fuel costs, and uncle sam will be picking up that tab in a write off.
Obviously they aren't too concerned about cash.
UAW contracts need to renegotiated or torn up. That's costing them a fortune. GM makes money in Europe and Asia, but can't here because of labor costs.
Factory shuts down due to production or a holiday, and you still get 95% of your wages!
Move me to the top, I'll do the job for a million or less, fly coach, and put out of work people to work. F*ck the union!
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 03:00:37 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
f*ck.. you guys and these big words. I've had to google meanings 4 times today....
That's what you get with an online degree.
:lol:
So the University of Phoenix isn't actually in Phoenix? ??? :lol:
Hey man, don't knock Shaq's alma matter.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
f*ck.. you guys and these big words. I've had to google meanings 4 times today....
That's what you get with an online degree.
:lol:
:( I'm a computer guy not a english major.
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
f*ck.. you guys and these big words. I've had to google meanings 4 times today....
That's what you get with an online degree.
:lol:
:( I'm a computer guy not a english major.
not english major = employed
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 03:03:37 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 03:00:37 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
f*ck.. you guys and these big words. I've had to google meanings 4 times today....
That's what you get with an online degree.
:lol:
So the University of Phoenix isn't actually in Phoenix? ??? :lol:
Hey man, don't knock Shaq's alma matter.
I'm working on my degree in TV/VCR repair.
~Brian
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
f*ck.. you guys and these big words. I've had to google meanings 4 times today....
That's what you get with an online degree.
:lol:
:( I'm a computer guy not a english major.
Go play with your floppy disk.
Quote from: Flynbyu on November 19, 2008, 03:03:07 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:53:31 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on November 19, 2008, 02:52:05 PM
Yeah, and Ford and GM's rep flew to Washington on private jets.
Detroit to Washington via Northwest $288 roundtrip coach. First Class $857
Round trip via Gulfstream 4, $20,000.
~Brian
They own the jet, but thats par for fuel costs, and uncle sam will be picking up that tab in a write off.
Obviously they aren't too concerned about cash.
UAW contracts need to renegotiated or torn up. That's costing them a fortune. GM makes money in Europe and Asia, but can't here because of labor costs.
Factory shuts down due to production or a holiday, and you still get 95% of your wages!
~Brian
+1 to the that. It is hard to say that without people thinking you are blaming the workers though. If all that was offered to me, I might take it as well. Unfortunately, those people were making too much money for entry level positions. Execs ate the rest. It is very sad to think about all those jobs (over 60%) being gone,... already. :(
Quote from: Flynbyu on November 19, 2008, 03:05:42 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 03:03:37 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 19, 2008, 03:00:37 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
f*ck.. you guys and these big words. I've had to google meanings 4 times today....
That's what you get with an online degree.
:lol:
So the University of Phoenix isn't actually in Phoenix? ??? :lol:
Hey man, don't knock Shaq's alma matter.
I'm working on my degree in TV/VCR repair.
~Brian
You ever notice places like that always advertise during the time of day when all the strippers are waking up?
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 03:05:56 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
f*ck.. you guys and these big words. I've had to google meanings 4 times today....
That's what you get with an online degree.
:lol:
:( I'm a computer guy not a english major.
Go play with your floppy disk.
5 1/2, 3 1/2, or zip? :lol:
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 03:05:24 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
f*ck.. you guys and these big words. I've had to google meanings 4 times today....
That's what you get with an online degree.
:lol:
:( I'm a computer guy not a english major.
not english major = employed
English major is only slightly better than history major.
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 03:05:56 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
f*ck.. you guys and these big words. I've had to google meanings 4 times today....
That's what you get with an online degree.
:lol:
:( I'm a computer guy not a english major.
Go play with your floppy disk.
5 1/2, 3 1/2, or zip? :lol:
Jazz only.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 03:05:56 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
f*ck.. you guys and these big words. I've had to google meanings 4 times today....
That's what you get with an online degree.
:lol:
:( I'm a computer guy not a english major.
Go play with your floppy disk.
guessing he prefers the hard drive :lol:
Quote from: Mad Dog on November 19, 2008, 03:10:50 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 03:08:40 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 03:05:56 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 03:04:39 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 19, 2008, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: Krandall on November 19, 2008, 02:58:44 PM
f*ck.. you guys and these big words. I've had to google meanings 4 times today....
That's what you get with an online degree.
:lol:
:( I'm a computer guy not a english major.
Go play with your floppy disk.
5 1/2, 3 1/2, or zip? :lol:
Jazz only.
:rofl:
eww.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1087437/Man-carefully-planned-chainsaw-death-losing-eviction-battle-developers.html?ITO=1490
:confused: :confused: :confused:
The last resident in a block of flats due to be demolished cut his own head off with a chainsaw to highlight the 'injustice' of being asked to move out, an inquest heard today.
Desperate David Phyall, 50, plugged the electric chainsaw into the mains and attached a timer to the socket.
He then wrapped sellotape around the machine's trigger to secure it in the 'on' position and tied the handle of the saw to a table leg to hold it steady.
Mr Phyall rested the saw on his neck and waited for the timer to go off.
The Black and Decker chainsaw sliced through his neck in an instant but kept going for a further 15 minutes.
Police and paramedics found his blood-soaked body at the flat in Bishopstoke, near Southampton, Hampshire, after his father John raised the alarm.
Mr Phyall was the last resident living in an area marked for a mass redevelopment and all 71 surrounding flats were empty.
The inquest heard Mr Phyall, who had lived in the 1960s flat for eight years, was the last resident in the block and had resisted 11 offers of a new home.
The inquest in Winchester, Hampshire, today heard that on July 5 this year Sergeant Mark Carter was called to the flat after Mr Phyall's parents found it was locked from the inside.
Sgt Carter told the inquest he broke into the flat using a crowbar before making his way to the lounge where he found Mr Phyall's body dressed in underpants and a T-shirt.
He said: 'The carpet was covered by a layer of blood and the ceiling above my head was also splattered with blood.
'I could see an electric chainsaw embedded in the man's neck - the blade was three quarters of the way through his neck.
'The handle of the chainsaw had been tied by white string to a table leg and the trigger had been tied up by sellotape.
'The lead was connected to a timer switch which was plugged into the wall.
'I have never come across an incident quite this graphic.'
Detective Sergeant Mark Huxford told the hearing: 'The head was still attached by the right shoulder and his head was lying to the left.
'A large area of carpet had blood splattered all over it because of the way the Black and Decker chainsaw had been spinning around.'
Mr Phyall's father John Phyall told the hearing he had no idea his son had any plans to harm himself.
He added: 'We had seen him a week prior to his death and he had appeared cheerful and had been making jokes. His death was totally unexpected.'
It is believed Mr Phyall killed himself two days before his body was found.
The inquest heard that on April 18 a letter was sent to all residents of the block by First Wessex Housing Group Ltd saying the building would be demolished.
However, Mr Phyall refused to leave his one-bedroom flat and had been taken to court by the housing association.
Two weeks before his death First Wessex Housing Group had been awarded possession of the flat giving them legal entitlement to evict him.
Recording a verdict of suicide, Deputy Central Hampshire Simon Burge said Mr Phyall had killed himself in a bid to 'make a statement'.
He said: 'The scene was clearly an appalling one.
'In the 15 years I have been sitting as deputy coroner it is the most bizarre case I have seen.
'Mr Phyall had thought through how he was going to commit suicide very carefully - he went to a great deal of trouble to rig up the chainsaw knowing full well the result would be fatal.
'It was death in the most dramatic way imaginable.
'I find he did so to draw attention to the injustice he felt at being asked to move out of his flat.'
Inquest? Man, I read that wrong the first time.
Cairo Police Arrest 400 Teens for 'Flirting' in Sexual Harassment Crackdown
Hundreds of teenage boys were arrested in Cairo Wednesday for flirting, as Egyptian police conducted a day-long crackdown on sexual harassment, Agence-France Presse reported Thursday.
"We have arrested a large number of boys who were flirting with girls," Cairo Police Director Faruq Lashin told AFP.
About 400 teens, between the ages of 15 and 17, are expected to receive fines when they are brought before a judge. The crackdown targeted teenagers hanging out in front of high schools, universities and along the banks of the Nile, AFP reported.
Sexual harassment convictions in Egypt are rare. The country does not have a law defining sexual harassment, and women's rights groups have long campaigned against it in Cairo.
However, a Cairo court sentenced a teenager Monday to a year in jail for sexually assaulting two women. A 17-year-old is also facing the same charge.
In addition, a man was sentenced to three years in jail in October for groping a woman.
Story via FixNews.com
We'll I'd be f*cked.
:lol:
~Brian
Some good news on the bad economy. Focus on the Family had to lay off employees. :grin_nod:
The Colorado-based Focus on the Family will reduce its staff by about 200 positions, citing economic conditions.
"There's still a great demand for the resources we offer," said Focus spokesman Gary Schneeberger on Tuesday. "It's simply a fact that the economy is affecting our donors and, therefore, affecting us."
The staff reductions, which will decrease the number of employees from about 1,150 to about 950, include 149 people whose positions will be eliminated, and 53 vacant positions that will be cut. The ministry founded by religious broadcaster James Dobson also will stop publishing four of its eight magazines.
The Colorado Springs-based ministry encountered a $5 million shortfall on its $151 million budget in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, Schneeberger said. Donations provide 95% of the ministry's income.
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:26:31 PM
Some good news on the bad economy. Focus on the Family had to lay off employees. :grin_nod:
The Colorado-based Focus on the Family will reduce its staff by about 200 positions, citing economic conditions.
"There's still a great demand for the resources we offer," said Focus spokesman Gary Schneeberger on Tuesday. "It's simply a fact that the economy is affecting our donors and, therefore, affecting us."
The staff reductions, which will decrease the number of employees from about 1,150 to about 950, include 149 people whose positions will be eliminated, and 53 vacant positions that will be cut. The ministry founded by religious broadcaster James Dobson also will stop publishing four of its eight magazines.
The Colorado Springs-based ministry encountered a $5 million shortfall on its $151 million budget in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, Schneeberger said. Donations provide 95% of the ministry's income.
Can I burn the building down now? I hate those mutha fackers with a passion!!! :mad:
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 20, 2008, 02:37:56 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:26:31 PM
Some good news on the bad economy. Focus on the Family had to lay off employees. :grin_nod:
The Colorado-based Focus on the Family will reduce its staff by about 200 positions, citing economic conditions.
"There's still a great demand for the resources we offer," said Focus spokesman Gary Schneeberger on Tuesday. "It's simply a fact that the economy is affecting our donors and, therefore, affecting us."
The staff reductions, which will decrease the number of employees from about 1,150 to about 950, include 149 people whose positions will be eliminated, and 53 vacant positions that will be cut. The ministry founded by religious broadcaster James Dobson also will stop publishing four of its eight magazines.
The Colorado Springs-based ministry encountered a $5 million shortfall on its $151 million budget in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, Schneeberger said. Donations provide 95% of the ministry's income.
Can I burn the building down now? I hate those mutha fackers with a passion!!! :mad:
Only if I can help. :thumbs:
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:26:31 PM
Some good news on the bad economy. Focus on the Family had to lay off employees. :grin_nod:
The Colorado-based Focus on the Family will reduce its staff by about 200 positions, citing economic conditions.
"There's still a great demand for the resources we offer," said Focus spokesman Gary Schneeberger on Tuesday. "It's simply a fact that the economy is affecting our donors and, therefore, affecting us."
The staff reductions, which will decrease the number of employees from about 1,150 to about 950, include 149 people whose positions will be eliminated, and 53 vacant positions that will be cut. The ministry founded by religious broadcaster James Dobson also will stop publishing four of its eight magazines.
The Colorado Springs-based ministry encountered a $5 million shortfall on its $151 million budget in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, Schneeberger said. Donations provide 95% of the ministry's income.
:( oh wait.... :clap: :lol: I hate that radio show! :mad:
I got the bathtub Aaron :rofl:
They do some good, but I'm no fan.
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:41:35 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 20, 2008, 02:37:56 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:26:31 PM
Some good news on the bad economy. Focus on the Family had to lay off employees. :grin_nod:
The Colorado-based Focus on the Family will reduce its staff by about 200 positions, citing economic conditions.
"There's still a great demand for the resources we offer," said Focus spokesman Gary Schneeberger on Tuesday. "It's simply a fact that the economy is affecting our donors and, therefore, affecting us."
The staff reductions, which will decrease the number of employees from about 1,150 to about 950, include 149 people whose positions will be eliminated, and 53 vacant positions that will be cut. The ministry founded by religious broadcaster James Dobson also will stop publishing four of its eight magazines.
The Colorado Springs-based ministry encountered a $5 million shortfall on its $151 million budget in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, Schneeberger said. Donations provide 95% of the ministry's income.
Can I burn the building down now? I hate those mutha fackers with a passion!!! :mad:
Only if I can help. :thumbs:
Wait!!! if there laying people off, that means there be less of those facist bastards inside when I torch it :'(
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:43:17 PM
They do some good, but I'm no fan.
You need to come visit out here, and I'll show you their "Good deeds" :mad:
Fascist...WOW i just considerred them morons...but I'll go with it. :lol:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:43:17 PM
They do some good, but I'm no fan.
And what good is that Hannity, I mean Erich. :confused:
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 20, 2008, 02:44:19 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:43:17 PM
They do some good, but I'm no fan.
You need to come visit out here, and I'll show you their "Good deeds" :mad:
I'm not talking about the good deeds there, its the rest of the world. But the bad out weighs the good.
Quote from: Peels660 on November 20, 2008, 02:44:33 PM
Fascist...WOW i just considerred them morons...but I'll go with it. :lol:
Tomato tomahto
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:44:41 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:43:17 PM
They do some good, but I'm no fan.
And what good is that Hannity, I mean Erich. :confused:
You have your views, I have mine.....we'll leave it at that.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:45:20 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 20, 2008, 02:44:19 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:43:17 PM
They do some good, but I'm no fan.
You need to come visit out here, and I'll show you their "Good deeds" :mad:
I'm not talking about the good deeds there, its the rest of the world. But the bad out weighs the good.
They teach the rest of the world about GERD's "love"? And by love I mean hate.
"Focus on the Family" yeah we help families! But only if the believe what we do, and are willing to subjigate your kids to our faith. Plus they don't see me and my son alone as a "Family", so no help.
F@CK them :mad:
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:46:09 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:44:41 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:43:17 PM
They do some good, but I'm no fan.
And what good is that Hannity, I mean Erich. :confused:
You have your views, I have mine.....we'll leave it at that.
meow
I've had a good day. I see no reason to go over it with you, we have two different views. I would have more affect talking to a wall and so would you.
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 20, 2008, 02:47:50 PM
"Focus on the Family" yeah we help families! But only if the believe what we do, and are willing to subjigate your kids to our faith. Plus they don't see me and my son alone as a "Family", so no help.
F@CK them :mad:
Because that's totally what I would do if I were GERD. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 20, 2008, 02:47:50 PM
"Focus on the Family" yeah we help families! But only if the believe what we do, and are willing to subjigate your kids to our faith. Plus they don't see me and my son alone as a "Family", so no help.
F@CK them :mad:
Most of them would understand your situation.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:46:09 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:44:41 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:43:17 PM
They do some good, but I'm no fan.
And what good is that Hannity, I mean Erich. :confused:
You have your views, I have mine.....we'll leave it at that.
meow
I've had a good day. I see no reason to go over it with you, we have two different views. I would have more affect talking to a wall and so would you.
So you're not gonna pray for me anymore? That's just mean. :confused:
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 20, 2008, 02:47:50 PM
"Focus on the Family" yeah we help families! But only if the believe what we do, and are willing to subjigate your kids to our faith. Plus they don't see me and my son alone as a "Family", so no help.
F@CK them :mad:
excellent post. This drives me pretty nuts about any and all "missionary" work. I still enjoy the "position" though
;) :lol:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:51:06 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 20, 2008, 02:47:50 PM
"Focus on the Family" yeah we help families! But only if the believe what we do, and are willing to subjigate your kids to our faith. Plus they don't see me and my son alone as a "Family", so no help.
F@CK them :mad:
Most of them would understand your situation.
I'm sure there are good people in that program E. I just haven't met ANY OF THEM.
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:51:24 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:46:09 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:44:41 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:43:17 PM
They do some good, but I'm no fan.
And what good is that Hannity, I mean Erich. :confused:
You have your views, I have mine.....we'll leave it at that.
meow
I've had a good day. I see no reason to go over it with you, we have two different views. I would have more affect talking to a wall and so would you.
So you're not gonna pray for me anymore? That's just mean. :confused:
I pray for you everyday, 6:10am on the button. I will never change that, you mean too much to me to quit doing that.
Quote from: Peels660 on November 20, 2008, 02:51:49 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 20, 2008, 02:47:50 PM
"Focus on the Family" yeah we help families! But only if the believe what we do, and are willing to subjigate your kids to our faith. Plus they don't see me and my son alone as a "Family", so no help.
F@CK them :mad:
excellent post. This drives me pretty nuts about any and all "missionary" work. I still enjoy the "position" though
;) :lol:
I've done my share of missionary work. Care to hate? Last one was working in the orphanages in TJ.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:53:04 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:51:24 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:46:09 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:44:41 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:43:17 PM
They do some good, but I'm no fan.
And what good is that Hannity, I mean Erich. :confused:
You have your views, I have mine.....we'll leave it at that.
meow
I've had a good day. I see no reason to go over it with you, we have two different views. I would have more affect talking to a wall and so would you.
So you're not gonna pray for me anymore? That's just mean. :confused:
I pray for you everyday, 6:10am on the button. I will never change that, you mean too much to me to quit doing that.
6:10am? Really? Huh. Thanks man. :thumbs:
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:55:04 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:53:04 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:51:24 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:46:09 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on November 20, 2008, 02:44:41 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:43:17 PM
They do some good, but I'm no fan.
And what good is that Hannity, I mean Erich. :confused:
You have your views, I have mine.....we'll leave it at that.
meow
I've had a good day. I see no reason to go over it with you, we have two different views. I would have more affect talking to a wall and so would you.
So you're not gonna pray for me anymore? That's just mean. :confused:
I pray for you everyday, 6:10am on the button. I will never change that, you mean too much to me to quit doing that.
6:10am? Really? Huh. Thanks man. :thumbs:
Soon as I get on the train. Its my morning thing as I read the paper.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:54:02 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on November 20, 2008, 02:51:49 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 20, 2008, 02:47:50 PM
"Focus on the Family" yeah we help families! But only if the believe what we do, and are willing to subjigate your kids to our faith. Plus they don't see me and my son alone as a "Family", so no help.
F@CK them :mad:
excellent post. This drives me pretty nuts about any and all "missionary" work. I still enjoy the "position" though
;) :lol:
I've done my share of missionary work. Care to hate? Last one was working in the orphanages in TJ.
I used to deliver food to the home bound for the Salvation Army during the holidays. When the Mooch gets a little older were gonna resume doing it. We were in some pretty rough neghborhoods so we stopped. :thumbs:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:54:02 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on November 20, 2008, 02:51:49 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 20, 2008, 02:47:50 PM
"Focus on the Family" yeah we help families! But only if the believe what we do, and are willing to subjigate your kids to our faith. Plus they don't see me and my son alone as a "Family", so no help.
F@CK them :mad:
excellent post. This drives me pretty nuts about any and all "missionary" work. I still enjoy the "position" though
;) :lol:
I've done my share of missionary work. Care to hate? Last one was working in the orphanages in TJ.
I have zero issue with missionary groups. Mormon's are some of the friendliest, kindest people I've ever met. But forcing submission to ones faith inorder recieve support in times of need (IE Right after my divorce), like FontheF did??? that's not "GERD's work" IMHO.
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 20, 2008, 02:57:02 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:54:02 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on November 20, 2008, 02:51:49 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 20, 2008, 02:47:50 PM
"Focus on the Family" yeah we help families! But only if the believe what we do, and are willing to subjigate your kids to our faith. Plus they don't see me and my son alone as a "Family", so no help.
F@CK them :mad:
excellent post. This drives me pretty nuts about any and all "missionary" work. I still enjoy the "position" though
;) :lol:
I've done my share of missionary work. Care to hate? Last one was working in the orphanages in TJ.
I have zero issue with missionary groups. Mormon's are some of the friendliest, kindest people I've ever met. But forcing submission to ones faith inorder recieve support in times of need (IE Right after my divorce), like FontheF did??? that's not "GERD's work" IMHO.
100% agree.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:54:02 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on November 20, 2008, 02:51:49 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 20, 2008, 02:47:50 PM
"Focus on the Family" yeah we help families! But only if the believe what we do, and are willing to subjigate your kids to our faith. Plus they don't see me and my son alone as a "Family", so no help.
F@CK them :mad:
excellent post. This drives me pretty nuts about any and all "missionary" work. I still enjoy the "position" though
;) :lol:
I've done my share of missionary work. Care to hate? Last one was working in the orphanages in TJ.
No hating from me, just sharing a thought. Most experiences I have had with missionaries, is religious propaganda hidden in good will. Not personal hate towards all of them. Sorry E
I have had spiritual clashes with Mormons, J.W.'s and good ole' fashioned redneck racist Baptists. Maybe they just weren't the right people for the job. All of them ended up basically calling me stupid or uninformed for not believing in their respective stories. So I "informed" them to leave. Oh don't forget the scientologists who haven't even read the damned book yet. Just in it because they think it is cool. :lol:
Oh, and I am not talking about people who give their life to help others either. They are truly great people who are doing what they believe to be GERD's work...and actually helping other people. But... helping people whilst subjecting them to Theology is something out of the Third Reich handbook. :confused:
I will also say, I have met folks from most faiths and had zero trouble with most of them. It is not the religion that bothers me per se. It is the fact that most of them do not allow for my views. I try my damndest to allow for theirs.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:58:34 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 20, 2008, 02:57:02 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 20, 2008, 02:54:02 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on November 20, 2008, 02:51:49 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 20, 2008, 02:47:50 PM
"Focus on the Family" yeah we help families! But only if the believe what we do, and are willing to subjigate your kids to our faith. Plus they don't see me and my son alone as a "Family", so no help.
F@CK them :mad:
excellent post. This drives me pretty nuts about any and all "missionary" work. I still enjoy the "position" though
;) :lol:
I've done my share of missionary work. Care to hate? Last one was working in the orphanages in TJ.
I have zero issue with missionary groups. Mormon's are some of the friendliest, kindest people I've ever met. But forcing submission to ones faith inorder recieve support in times of need (IE Right after my divorce), like FontheF did??? that's not "GERD's work" IMHO.
100% agree.
x2
I had a neighbor, very strange fellow. WHo I think was acting stupid to get help. Missionaries would get him groceries and daily needs to help him get by. He wasn't shy about it. He acted stranger when they were around. Basically in exchange for his soul, he received care. He got the better end of the deal, for he has no soul. :lol:
I've done quite a few missionaries. Haven't since I moved for work. But I guessing it's just dependant on who is doing the mission work, I know when we did. We never pushed our beliefes. We hoped that by doing the good works we'd help epople realize not everyone in the world is bad.. We held ministry services also. if people from the community wanted to join they were more than welcome. But not required of them to, to receive services done by our youth group.
I've done a few missonary positions. Does that make me like Mother Teresa?
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Krandall on November 20, 2008, 03:25:57 PM
I've done quite a few missionaries. Haven't since I moved for work. But I guessing it's just dependant on who is doing the mission work, I know when we did. We never pushed our beliefes. We hoped that by doing the good works we'd help epople realize not everyone in the world is bad.. We held ministry services also. if people from the community wanted to join they were more than welcome. But not required of them to, to receive services done by our youth group.
whom? Kyle?
Might want to change that one to "missions" ;) Missionary is the person who facilitates the mission :lol:
J/k I have no trouble with your sort of mission work. For the greater good of humanity. :thumbs: Personally, I have witnessed about 75/25 nazi type missionaries.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081120/pl_politico/15835
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 21, 2008, 01:13:39 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081120/pl_politico/15835
cold dead hands...
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 21, 2008, 01:13:39 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081120/pl_politico/15835
I'll believe it when I see it. Nobody is taking our guns away...period. It will be harder to buy one though. That is my guess. ???
Quote from: Peels660 on November 21, 2008, 03:03:21 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 21, 2008, 01:13:39 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081120/pl_politico/15835
I'll believe it when I see it. Nobody is taking our guns away...period. It will be harder to buy one though. That is my guess. ???
It will be harder to buy one
legally. You'll still be able to get them. :thumbs:
dubai palm island grand opening: http://www.aol.com.au/fotozone/?feeddeeplinkNum=0
I HAVE AN ERRECTION
is that breaking news? :confused:
Quote from: who else but rk on November 22, 2008, 06:31:08 AM
I HAVE AN ERRECTION
is that breaking news? :confused:
Only if you beat it to death.
~Brian
Quote from: Krandall on November 22, 2008, 02:59:37 AM
dubai palm island grand opening: http://www.aol.com.au/fotozone/?feeddeeplinkNum=0
It looks very similar to the Atlantis in the Bahamas.
~Brian
Quote from: who else but rk on November 22, 2008, 06:31:08 AM
I HAVE AN ERRECTION
is that breaking news? :confused:
If you balls finally dropped, then yes.
:lol:
Now this is f*cked up. Why was no one called?
MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- With his webcam trained on him, a Florida teenager died in his bed of a drug overdose while others watched over the Internet, officials said Friday.
Broward County Medical Examiner Joshua Perper said it was clear that the teen committed suicide.
Some of those watching urged him to take more drugs while others debated whether he had taken enough to kill himself. Hours passed before someone finally notified authorities that he appeared lifeless, officials said.
The teenager was pronounced dead Wednesday afternoon in Pembroke Pines, Florida, said Wendy Crane, investigator for the Broward County Medical Examiner's Office.
The cause of death was found to be an overdose of benzodiazepine, an antidepressant, as well as other opiate drugs used to treat depression, Crane said. CNN is not reporting the teenager's name.
The youth's body was found in his apartment behind a locked door, which police broke down. Police turned off the webcam and computer, Crane said. Watch CNN's John Zarrella detail the webcam suicide »
She said he did not take anything on camera, according to footage she reviewed, but he blogged between 3 and 4 a.m. Wednesday that he had taken an overdose of drugs. He also posted a suicide note.
He was seen lying on his bed on the streaming video, posted on the Web site Justin.tv. On the site, a person can stream video from a Web camera while "viewers" chat with each other in a box next to the video, Crane said. The comments and video have since been removed from the Web site.
Crane read the comments posted during the 10 hours the youth could be seen lying on his bed.
As the teenager was lying on his bed, she said, people were typing things like, "Oh, that's not enough to kill you." Others, she said, were egging him on, saying things like "Go ahead and do it." Still others thought it wasn't real, Crane said.
About 11 a.m. Wednesday, Crane said, some viewers began to get concerned, writing things like, "He's not moving" and "He's not breathing."
One contacted the site's moderator to get the youth's contact information, she said, and the police were notified.
The teen "has made threats in the past regarding suicide and possibly had previous attempts," she said.
Justin.tv CEO Michael Seibel said in a statement, "we regret that this has occurred and want to respect the privacy of the broadcaster and his family during this time."
Pembroke Pines police Sgt. John Gazzano said the case is under investigation.
Broward County Chief Medical Examiner Joshua Perper said the teen may have stood a chance of surviving had someone notified authorities right away.
"If somebody had come immediately after he took tablets, then probably not all the tablets would have been absorbed. Then, therefore, they could wash his stomach and get rid of the additional tablets. Certainly, he would have had a much better chance."
The youth's father said he is "appalled" that people watched and did nothing.
"I wish they would have given him the assistance that he was crying out for," the father said. "They did not respond to him. They only did long after the fact."
He said his son, who attended Broward Community College and wanted to be a paramedic, had bipolar disorder and was being treated for depression.
The father dismissed the suggestion that people thought the video was fake. "It was not fake, was it? You don't assume. You have to find out if it was true or false."
Perper said the existence of a note left no doubt that the young man committed suicide.
"He left a note, which is very clear. And our examination did not reveal any evidence of trauma or any evidence of natural disease on internal examination. And we did a screen of the urine, which revealed the presence of medication, mostly antidepressant drugs," Perper said.
The father said he had no reason to believe his son was having problems.
"He was a good son," he said. "I'm sorry that no one could help him when I was not around to help him myself."
~Brian
I saw that this morning, thats just messed up. There is something wrong with people today. I'm all for having a few laughs but when someone is in trouble I would like to think I would be the person to step in and say something or do something.
Definitely not cool.
My ass would have been reporting it after I read/witnessed him taking the pills.
~Brian
sick :confused:
thats crazy. how could somebody stand back and watch another person do that to themsleves
thats pretty crazy..its just like the movie untraceable
What's the big deal? Maybe Erich justed wanted to play a little Mozart? :lol: :lol: He gets bored and lonely sometimes. ;)
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/11/23/massachusetts.piano/index.html
Quote from: Peels660 on November 24, 2008, 08:42:55 AM
What's the big deal? Maybe Erich justed wanted to play a little Mozart? :lol: :lol: He gets bored and lonely sometimes. ;)
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/11/23/massachusetts.piano/index.html
Actually I think it would be kinda cool to here a piano alone in the woods. Can't say I've ever heard one in the out doors without a microphone or electronic pick-up to amplify the sound.
Someone just wanted to play, and didn't want to be be bothered........FAIL
:lol:
ERMAHGERD here is a Preddy08 Fail:
http://www.wastednews.com/2008/11/20/suspect-arrested-for-greasy-imprints/
Omaha, Neb
The man hasn't been charged yet, but authorities believe he is the vandal some townsfolk have dubbed the "Butt Bandit."
:lol:
Iowa City, Iowa:
Leave me alone! All I want is some smokes and a f**kin latte! :mad: :lol: :lol:
Iowa City man is accused of using stolen credit card to buy a latte at a coffee house and to buy cigarettes at a tobacco store
http://www.wastednews.com/2008/09/04/alleged-thief-leaves-his-signature/
Quote from: Peels660 on November 24, 2008, 09:10:58 AM
Iowa City, Iowa:
Leave me alone! All I want is some smokes and a f**kin latte! :mad: :lol: :lol:
Iowa City man is accused of using stolen credit card to buy a latte at a coffee house and to buy cigarettes at a tobacco store
http://www.wastednews.com/2008/09/04/alleged-thief-leaves-his-signature/
That's a good investment!
:lol:
~Brian
Denium Nighties and Flannel Thongs
Canadians who may have become tired of being passed over as porn stars will have a new, home-grown outlet to showcase their erotic talents.
Federal regulators have granted Alberta-based Real Productions approval to launch a new digital pornography channel, which promises to serve up at least 50 percent domestic content.
The Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) approved the Category 2 pay-television service on Wednesday, allowing Northern Peaks to become "Canada's first adult video channel offering significant Canadian adult content."
"I think as Canadians there is a bit of a tiredness in seeing all American stuff," Shaun Donnelly, president of Real Productions, said during an interview on Friday.
"There is always that thrill for something that is local and you get the sense that these are people you can meet at the supermarket."
The CRTC only required 15 percent Canadian content, but Northern Peaks agreed to provide "not less than 50 percent of the broadcast day and not less than 50 percent of the evening broadcast period to Canadian programming," according to the license.
"We want to be Canada's adult channel and I think to do that, 15 percent wouldn't cut it," Donnelly said.
Real Productions boasts the largest collection of Canadian adult-themed content in the country with more than 200 film titles and 75 television episodes in its library.
The regulator stipulated the license will only be issued once Real Productions enters into an agreement with at least one licensed distributor.
Donnelly, who has also produced television programs for Playboy TV in the U.S. and Granada Television in Britain, said all five major Canadian cable and satellite carriers have expressed interest in hosting the channel and are reviewing the proposal.
"I've been in touch with the cable companies throughout the process and went ahead with it based on the interest we had," he said
Northern Peaks will be restricted to certain types of programming including long-form documentaries, dramatic series, feature films, game shows, mini-series, sitcoms and made-for-TV movies.
The CRTC received no interventions in connection with the application, which was initially launched in October 2007.
^^^^^^^ :lol:
love that title!
I'm sure Brian already recieves those channels. :rolleyes:
He strokes it with a fresh bottle of maple syrup to feel "authentic" :rofl:
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 24, 2008, 09:25:44 AM
I'm sure Brian already recieves those channels. :rolleyes:
He strokes it with a fresh bottle of maple syrup to feel "authentic" :rofl:
Rub one out eh?
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on November 24, 2008, 09:28:39 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 24, 2008, 09:25:44 AM
I'm sure Brian already recieves those channels. :rolleyes:
He strokes it with a fresh bottle of maple syrup to feel "authentic" :rofl:
Rub one out eh?
He makes his own Putine :confused:
:lol:
Quote from: Colorado700R on November 24, 2008, 09:25:44 AM
I'm sure Brian already recieves those channels. :rolleyes:
He strokes it with a fresh bottle of maple syrup to feel "authentic" :rofl:
Pfft.
:rolleyes:
Vicks Vapor rub!
Get it right already.
~Brian
Quote from: Peels660 on November 24, 2008, 09:02:32 AM
ERMAHGERD here is a Preddy08 Fail:
http://www.wastednews.com/2008/11/20/suspect-arrested-for-greasy-imprints/
Omaha, Neb
The man hasn’t been charged yet, but authorities believe he is the vandal some townsfolk have dubbed the “Butt Bandit.”
:lol:
its funny that you mentioned this because i work for danielski farms based in valentine nebraska. I was out there in may when the "butt bandit" had gotten some of the windows in our new shop and office. this dude just runs around at night and does it. I actually have pictures of his artwork somewhere. :rofl: :rofl:
Quote from: scurry57 on November 24, 2008, 10:51:17 AM
Quote from: Peels660 on November 24, 2008, 09:02:32 AM
ERMAHGERD here is a Preddy08 Fail:
http://www.wastednews.com/2008/11/20/suspect-arrested-for-greasy-imprints/
Omaha, Neb
The man hasn't been charged yet, but authorities believe he is the vandal some townsfolk have dubbed the "Butt Bandit."
:lol:
its funny that you mentioned this because i work for danielski farms based in valentine nebraska. I was out there in may when the "butt bandit" had gotten some of the windows in our new shop and office. this dude just runs around at night and does it. I actually have pictures of his artwork somewhere. :rofl: :rofl:
No way. Did you know it was our very own Preddy08 from Omaha? J/k Preddy :lol: Post those pics!
CNN-- A Missouri woman was convicted of three misdemeanor counts in the case of a 13-year-old girl who committed suicide after she was criticized on the Web site MySpace.com.
Megan Meier, 13, hanged herself in her bedroom after being targeted in a MySpace hoax.
1 of 2 But a jury declined to convict Lori Drew of the more serious conspiracy charge in a landmark case testing the limits of cyberbullying.
Drew, 49, of O'Fallon, Missouri, was accused of fraudulently using the site to pose as a teenage boy who feigned romantic interest in the girl, Megan Meier.
Meier committed suicide after her perceived love interest spurned her, telling her the world would be a better place without her, according to federal prosecutors.
At the time of her death, Meier's family and Drew's family lived near each other in suburban St. Louis.
Drew was convicted of three counts of accessing protected computers without authorization to obtain information to inflict emotional distress on Meier.
U.S. District Judge George Wu declared a mistrial on a fourth count of conspiracy after a California jury failed to reach a verdict.
After the verdicts were read, Drew's defense attorneys said they intend to file a motion for a new trial on the misdemeanor counts. That motion must be filed by December 29.
The original charges against Drew carried a maximum penalty of five years in prison upon conviction. The misdemeanor charges each carry a maximum penalty of a year in prison and a fine of $100,000, according to Thom Mrozek, spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office in the Central District of California.
Drew was indicted in May. The indictment was returned in Los Angeles, California, because MySpace is based there.
The indictment alleges that Drew and others created an account on MySpace under the name "Josh Evans" and used the account to contact Meier, beginning what the girl thought was an online romance with a 16-year-old boy.
With those actions, prosecutors alleged that Drew violated MySpace's terms of service by using fraudulent information to obtain personal information about a juvenile and to "harass, abuse or harm other members."
After prosecutors rested their case, defense attorneys filed a motion to dismiss the charges against Drew, calling them "absurd."
Drew and her alleged co-conspirators never read the terms of service, so they could not have intentionally violated them, defense attorneys argued.
"The defendant is on trial for intentionally violating MySpace's terms of service," the motion says. "However, the government has offered no evidence whatsoever that the defendant or any of the alleged co-conspirators intentionally violated MySpace's terms of service."
In response, prosecutors said they did not have to show that Drew had read the terms of service to prove she knew that her accessing the MySpace servers was unauthorized.
"[The defendant] knew her conduct in helping to create a fictitious juvenile account and then use this account to torment another juvenile, M.T.M, was 'illegal,' wrong and in violation of MySpace's rules, yet continued using the MySpace account to further this conduct," prosecutors said in their response to the motion to dismiss.
The judge reserved making a ruling, opting to see what the jury's verdict would be, a common move in federal trials, Mrozek said.
Missouri prosecutors declined to bring charges against Drew in December. At the time, St. Charles County Prosecutor Jack Banas said Drew had arranged for the MySpace account to be set up in order to find out what Meier was saying about her daughter.
Serves the bitch right.
~Brian
heard this on the radio....WTF!
does he mean the girl who died or the guy who " killed her"
Quote from: who else but rk on November 27, 2008, 07:19:50 AM
does he mean the girl who died or the guy who " killed her"
The woman who made up the identity.
~Brian
http://wcco.com/national/walmart.worker.trampled.2.875727.html
A worker died after being trampled by a throng of unruly shoppers when a suburban Wal-Mart opened for the holiday sales rush Friday, authorities said.
At least three other people were injured.
Wal-Mart Stores Inc., in Bentonville, Ark., would not confirm the reports of a stampede but said a "medical emergency" had caused the company to close the store, which is in Valley Stream on Long Island.
Nassau County police said the 34-year-old worker was taken to a hospital where he was pronounced dead at about 6 a.m., an hour after the store opened. The cause of death was not immediately known.
A police statement said shortly after 5 a.m., a throng of shoppers "physically broke down the doors, knocking (the worker) to the ground." Police also said a 28-year-old pregnant woman was taken to a hospital for observation and three other shoppers suffered minor injuries and were also taken to hospitals.
The dead worker's name was not released.
"Local authorities are looking into the situation," said Wal-Mart representative Dan Fogleman. But he said it would be "inappropriate for me to share any additional information" until authorities investigate further.
Shoppers around the country lined up early outside stores in the annual bargain hunting ritual known as Black Friday. Many stores open early and stay open late. The Valley Stream Wal-Mart usually opens at 9 a.m.
I don't doubt that a bit.
People are crazy to get doorbuster deals.
~Brian
what the FERK is wrong with people honestly....
Quote from: who else but rk on November 28, 2008, 11:39:41 AM
what the F :mad: ck is wrong with people honestly....
Pretty much what I was thinking. F*ck. :mad:
F**K you! maybe I wanted my Teddy Ruxpin!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
SAN ANTONIO — Five police officers who serve on bicycle patrol in downtown San Antonio have been temporarily reassigned.
That's after photographs surfaced on the Internet of them posing in uniform with women in racy poses.
San Antonio Police Chief William McManus said the photos aired by WOAI-TV Tuesday send "the wrong message" to the public.
The photos show scantily clad women in various poses with the officers. Many are sexually suggestive, with women lifting their dresses or bending over. They were sent to the television station in an e-mail after they were originally posted on a MySpace profile.
McManus says the officers have been transferred while the matter is investigated, which is routine for such complaints. Punishment could range from a reprimand to a three-day suspension, he said.
Ben Sifuentes is an attorney who has represented police officers in disciplinary cases. he tells the San Antonio Express-News that officers working downtown are susceptible to drunken revelers taking photos.
What's the big deal with a little softcore porn?
~Brian
softcore FTW! :clap: :clap: :clap:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obama_cabinet
I didn't copy the entire article.
CHICAGO – President-elect Barack Obama picked a national security team headed by former campaign rival Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bush administration holdover Robert Gates on Monday, and said he wants to consult with military commanders before settling on a firm timetable to withdraw U.S. combat troops from Iraq.
Obama said a newly completed agreement between Iraq and the Bush administration covering U.S. troop presence signals "a transition period in which our mission is changing" after a long war. The president-elect campaigned on a call to pull out most combat troops within 16 months of taking office, a period he said he still believes "is the right time frame."
Obama named Clinton, a New York senator, as secretary of state and said Gates would remain as defense secretary, a post he has held for the past two years.
At a news conference, the president-elect also introduced retired Marine Gen. James Jones as White House national security adviser, former Justice Department official Eric Holder as attorney general, Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano as secretary of homeland security and Susan Rice as ambassador to the United Nations.
Pretty cool news.
I'm surprised he kept Gates.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 01, 2008, 11:54:47 AM
Pretty cool news.
I'm surprised he kept Gates.
~Brian
I'm not, the surge was his baby, and it worked.
True, but usually the changing of the guard results in change everywhere. I think it's cool he is keeping Gates.
~Brian
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
WHAAAAAAAT!
Didn't we just have this conversation?
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 01, 2008, 03:21:42 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
WHAAAAAAAT!
Didn't we just have this conversation?
~Brian
We sure did. We took the test on Wednesday night. Sweet fancy Moses.
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:26:52 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 01, 2008, 03:21:42 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
WHAAAAAAAT!
Didn't we just have this conversation?
~Brian
We sure did. We took the test on Wednesday night. Sweet fancy Moses.
:thumbs: What sort of dwarfism will it have? ;) Congrats though. My wife has been hinting again. :rolleyes:
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
Congrats man!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:26:52 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 01, 2008, 03:21:42 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
WHAAAAAAAT!
Didn't we just have this conversation?
~Brian
We sure did. We took the test on Wednesday night. Sweet fancy Moses.
You can get pregnant from swallowing it?
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Peels660 on December 01, 2008, 03:29:32 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:26:52 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 01, 2008, 03:21:42 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
WHAAAAAAAT!
Didn't we just have this conversation?
~Brian
We sure did. We took the test on Wednesday night. Sweet fancy Moses.
:thumbs: What sort of dwarfism will it have? ;) Congrats though. My wife has been hinting again. :rolleyes:
Ha. The doctor said my daughter is gonna be 6' tall. Thanks. My preference woulda been to wait until nursing school was over but what the hell. The wife was hell bent on having another one so at least we can get it done before I'm too old. :lol:
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:39:20 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on December 01, 2008, 03:29:32 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:26:52 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 01, 2008, 03:21:42 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
WHAAAAAAAT!
Didn't we just have this conversation?
~Brian
We sure did. We took the test on Wednesday night. Sweet fancy Moses.
:thumbs: What sort of dwarfism will it have? ;) Congrats though. My wife has been hinting again. :rolleyes:
Ha. The doctor said my daughter is gonna be 6' tall. Thanks. My preference woulda been to wait until nursing school was over but what the hell. The wife was hell bent on having another one so at least we can get it done before I'm too old. :lol:
+1
Gotta get it done while the hip is feeling good.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 01, 2008, 03:37:44 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:26:52 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 01, 2008, 03:21:42 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
WHAAAAAAAT!
Didn't we just have this conversation?
~Brian
We sure did. We took the test on Wednesday night. Sweet fancy Moses.
You can get pregnant from swallowing it?
:lol:
~Brian
If she even sees a mouthful on a porn she gets the gags. :(
It's not like we even tried. I guess I'm Mr. October. I'm three for three. :lol:
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
Congrats again bro. I didn't know if it was ok to say anything but I voted to wait till you showed up to let the guys know.
No shit?
Holy cow.
That's one thing I'm blessed with. The wife gets turned on taking a mouthful.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 01, 2008, 03:42:43 PM
No shit?
Holy cow.
That's one thing I'm blessed with. The wife gets turned on taking a mouthful.
~Brian
Atta girl! :thumbs: Mine doesn't like it :(
She likes it on her though! I'll take what I can get! :thumbs:
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 01, 2008, 03:42:43 PM
No shit?
Holy cow.
That's one thing I'm blessed with. The wife gets turned on taking a mouthful.
~Brian
Thats because it isn't really a mouthful.
:lol:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 03:44:44 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 01, 2008, 03:42:43 PM
No shit?
Holy cow.
That's one thing I'm blessed with. The wife gets turned on taking a mouthful.
~Brian
Thats because it isn't really a mouthful.
:lol:
I'm a hot glue factory like Peter North.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 01, 2008, 03:42:43 PM
No shit?
Holy cow.
That's one thing I'm blessed with. The wife gets turned on taking a mouthful.
~Brian
+1 It is the coolest! :lol:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
Congrats again bro. I didn't know if it was ok to say anything but I voted to wait till you showed up to let the guys know.
I wanted to get on here earlier but it was "one of those days" around here. My parents drove me crazy today. I wish they would just stay the FERK away. It took me three hours to unfuck what my dad did today. And then I had payroll. :mad:
Thanks though. :thumbs:
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:49:16 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
Congrats again bro. I didn't know if it was ok to say anything but I voted to wait till you showed up to let the guys know.
I wanted to get on here earlier but it was "one of those days" around here. My parents drove me crazy today. I wish they would just stay the F :mad: ck away. It took me three hours to unF :mad: ck what my dad did today. And then I had payroll. :mad:
Thanks though. :thumbs:
And again, I'm really sorry. I promise I'll pull out faster next time.
And you have no idea what kind of day I had. No words can explain it.
Quote from: Peels660 on December 01, 2008, 03:48:56 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 01, 2008, 03:42:43 PM
No shit?
Holy cow.
That's one thing I'm blessed with. The wife gets turned on taking a mouthful.
~Brian
+1 It is the coolest! :lol:
I used to bang a skank back in the day that insisted I put every shot in her mouth. I was not one to argue so I obliged. :grin_nod:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 03:52:17 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:49:16 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
Congrats again bro. I didn't know if it was ok to say anything but I voted to wait till you showed up to let the guys know.
I wanted to get on here earlier but it was "one of those days" around here. My parents drove me crazy today. I wish they would just stay the F :mad: ck away. It took me three hours to unF :mad: ck what my dad did today. And then I had payroll. :mad:
Thanks though. :thumbs:
And again, I'm really sorry. I promise I'll pull out faster next time.
And you have no idea what kind of day I had. No words can explain it.
Really? Did your mom storm off in tears after getting in your face and asking if you wanted to fight? Or your dad getting in your face yelling at you like you were 8? Yeah. I wish I was kidding. My parents are fuckin' idiots sometimes. And it's a wonder why I drank. :rolleyes:
The difference between spit and swallow: 30 pounds of pressure on the back of the head.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:53:02 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on December 01, 2008, 03:48:56 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 01, 2008, 03:42:43 PM
No shit?
Holy cow.
That's one thing I'm blessed with. The wife gets turned on taking a mouthful.
~Brian
+1 It is the coolest! :lol:
I used to bang a skank back in the day that insisted I put every shot in her mouth. I was not one to argue so I obliged. :grin_nod:
what a swell guy..... :lol:
Quote from: Peels660 on December 01, 2008, 03:56:07 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:53:02 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on December 01, 2008, 03:48:56 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 01, 2008, 03:42:43 PM
No shit?
Holy cow.
That's one thing I'm blessed with. The wife gets turned on taking a mouthful.
~Brian
+1 It is the coolest! :lol:
I used to bang a skank back in the day that insisted I put every shot in her mouth. I was not one to argue so I obliged. :grin_nod:
what a swell guy..... :lol:
Best. head. ever. :thumbs:
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:55:08 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 03:52:17 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:49:16 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
Congrats again bro. I didn't know if it was ok to say anything but I voted to wait till you showed up to let the guys know.
I wanted to get on here earlier but it was "one of those days" around here. My parents drove me crazy today. I wish they would just stay the F :mad: ck away. It took me three hours to unF :mad: ck what my dad did today. And then I had payroll. :mad:
Thanks though. :thumbs:
And again, I'm really sorry. I promise I'll pull out faster next time.
And you have no idea what kind of day I had. No words can explain it.
Really? Did your mom storm off in tears after getting in your face and asking if you wanted to fight? Or your dad getting in your face yelling at you like you were 8? Yeah. I wish I was kidding. My parents are F :mad: ckin' idiots sometimes. And it's a wonder why I drank. :rolleyes:
Nope, parents left yesterday.
Woke up late with my cold kicking my ass.
Ton of snow that I had to dig out of.
Dead battery in the car. No jumper cables.
Took half an hour to get 2 miles to the train station due to backed up traffic.
Didn't get to work till 10 and only made it till noon when I gave up and went home.
Still had to get the rest of the driveway cleared when I got home before it froze hard. Yeah, that was good for my cold. Now I think I have a fever.
That so sucks ass.
~Brian
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 04:03:50 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:55:08 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 03:52:17 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:49:16 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
Congrats again bro. I didn't know if it was ok to say anything but I voted to wait till you showed up to let the guys know.
I wanted to get on here earlier but it was "one of those days" around here. My parents drove me crazy today. I wish they would just stay the F :mad: ck away. It took me three hours to unF :mad: ck what my dad did today. And then I had payroll. :mad:
Thanks though. :thumbs:
And again, I'm really sorry. I promise I'll pull out faster next time.
And you have no idea what kind of day I had. No words can explain it.
Really? Did your mom storm off in tears after getting in your face and asking if you wanted to fight? Or your dad getting in your face yelling at you like you were 8? Yeah. I wish I was kidding. My parents are F :mad: ckin' idiots sometimes. And it's a wonder why I drank. :rolleyes:
Nope, parents left yesterday.
Woke up late with my cold kicking my ass.
Ton of snow that I had to dig out of.
Dead battery in the car. No jumper cables.
Took half an hour to get 2 miles to the train station due to backed up traffic.
Didn't get to work till 10 and only made it till noon when I gave up and went home.
Still had to get the rest of the driveway cleared when I got home before it froze hard. Yeah, that was good for my cold. Now I think I have a fever.
I would've taken your day. My parents suck.
Get this battery charger. http://www.ctek.com/EN-US/Buy-US-Charger.aspx (http://www.ctek.com/EN-US/Buy-US-Charger.aspx)
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 04:09:09 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 04:03:50 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:55:08 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 03:52:17 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:49:16 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
Congrats again bro. I didn't know if it was ok to say anything but I voted to wait till you showed up to let the guys know.
I wanted to get on here earlier but it was "one of those days" around here. My parents drove me crazy today. I wish they would just stay the F :mad: ck away. It took me three hours to unF :mad: ck what my dad did today. And then I had payroll. :mad:
Thanks though. :thumbs:
And again, I'm really sorry. I promise I'll pull out faster next time.
And you have no idea what kind of day I had. No words can explain it.
Really? Did your mom storm off in tears after getting in your face and asking if you wanted to fight? Or your dad getting in your face yelling at you like you were 8? Yeah. I wish I was kidding. My parents are F :mad: ckin' idiots sometimes. And it's a wonder why I drank. :rolleyes:
Nope, parents left yesterday.
Woke up late with my cold kicking my ass.
Ton of snow that I had to dig out of.
Dead battery in the car. No jumper cables.
Took half an hour to get 2 miles to the train station due to backed up traffic.
Didn't get to work till 10 and only made it till noon when I gave up and went home.
Still had to get the rest of the driveway cleared when I got home before it froze hard. Yeah, that was good for my cold. Now I think I have a fever.
I would've taken your day. My parents suck.
Get this battery charger. http://www.ctek.com/EN-US/Buy-US-Charger.aspx (http://www.ctek.com/EN-US/Buy-US-Charger.aspx)
A few days ago all was good and you were all on the same page. ???
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 04:10:28 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 04:09:09 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 04:03:50 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:55:08 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 03:52:17 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:49:16 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
Congrats again bro. I didn't know if it was ok to say anything but I voted to wait till you showed up to let the guys know.
I wanted to get on here earlier but it was "one of those days" around here. My parents drove me crazy today. I wish they would just stay the F :mad: ck away. It took me three hours to unF :mad: ck what my dad did today. And then I had payroll. :mad:
Thanks though. :thumbs:
And again, I'm really sorry. I promise I'll pull out faster next time.
And you have no idea what kind of day I had. No words can explain it.
Really? Did your mom storm off in tears after getting in your face and asking if you wanted to fight? Or your dad getting in your face yelling at you like you were 8? Yeah. I wish I was kidding. My parents are F :mad: ckin' idiots sometimes. And it's a wonder why I drank. :rolleyes:
Nope, parents left yesterday.
Woke up late with my cold kicking my ass.
Ton of snow that I had to dig out of.
Dead battery in the car. No jumper cables.
Took half an hour to get 2 miles to the train station due to backed up traffic.
Didn't get to work till 10 and only made it till noon when I gave up and went home.
Still had to get the rest of the driveway cleared when I got home before it froze hard. Yeah, that was good for my cold. Now I think I have a fever.
I would've taken your day. My parents suck.
Get this battery charger. http://www.ctek.com/EN-US/Buy-US-Charger.aspx (http://www.ctek.com/EN-US/Buy-US-Charger.aspx)
A few days ago all was good and you were all on the same page. ???
I know. I sat there in shock. I'm completely baffled. I know my dad was feeling like a tool for fucking up the books so I figured he just wanted to take it out on me 'cause you know it's worked in the past. :rolleyes: My mom is a whole 'nuther story. She went off the reservation today. ???
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 04:20:02 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 04:10:28 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 04:09:09 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 04:03:50 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:55:08 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 03:52:17 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:49:16 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Mrs. Buddha is pregnant.
Congrats again bro. I didn't know if it was ok to say anything but I voted to wait till you showed up to let the guys know.
I wanted to get on here earlier but it was "one of those days" around here. My parents drove me crazy today. I wish they would just stay the F :mad: ck away. It took me three hours to unF :mad: ck what my dad did today. And then I had payroll. :mad:
Thanks though. :thumbs:
And again, I'm really sorry. I promise I'll pull out faster next time.
And you have no idea what kind of day I had. No words can explain it.
Really? Did your mom storm off in tears after getting in your face and asking if you wanted to fight? Or your dad getting in your face yelling at you like you were 8? Yeah. I wish I was kidding. My parents are F :mad: ckin' idiots sometimes. And it's a wonder why I drank. :rolleyes:
Nope, parents left yesterday.
Woke up late with my cold kicking my ass.
Ton of snow that I had to dig out of.
Dead battery in the car. No jumper cables.
Took half an hour to get 2 miles to the train station due to backed up traffic.
Didn't get to work till 10 and only made it till noon when I gave up and went home.
Still had to get the rest of the driveway cleared when I got home before it froze hard. Yeah, that was good for my cold. Now I think I have a fever.
I would've taken your day. My parents suck.
Get this battery charger. http://www.ctek.com/EN-US/Buy-US-Charger.aspx (http://www.ctek.com/EN-US/Buy-US-Charger.aspx)
A few days ago all was good and you were all on the same page. ???
I know. I sat there in shock. I'm completely baffled. I know my dad was feeling like a tool for F :mad: cking up the books so I figured he just wanted to take it out on me 'cause you know it's worked in the past. :rolleyes: My mom is a whole 'nuther story. She went off the reservation today. ???
WTF? She the one that always has your back.
WTF? She the one that always has your back.
[/quote]
I know. She actually called me a prick (among other pleasantries) to my wife. Nice huh? I love the holidays. Christians always act so christ like this time of year. :confused:
No shit?
Oh man, that sucks.
Sorry to hear that.
~Brian
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 04:26:23 PM
WTF? She the one that always has your back.
I know. She actually called me a prick (among other pleasantries) to my wife. Nice huh? I love the holidays. Christians always act so christ like this time of year. :confused:
[/quote]
Thats not being a christian, don't insult the rest of us.
That's more like grasping for straws.
~Brian
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 04:28:38 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 04:26:23 PM
WTF? She the one that always has your back.
I know. She actually called me a prick (among other pleasantries) to my wife. Nice huh? I love the holidays. Christians always act so christ like this time of year. :confused:
Thats not being a christian, don't insult the rest of us.
[/quote]
Sorry, I was generalizing. My point was that people are already starting to act crazy.
Well is time to sit them down again. You just have to put up with them for 3 more years.
Later gang.
Congrats again Scott.
I'm sure another cute was is is in the oven.
~Brian
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 04:45:28 PM
Well is time to sit them down again. You just have to put up with them for 3 more years.
The thing I took exception to was how they conducted themselves. That's not how civilized people act and that's certainly not how we resolve disputes. It was totally surreal. My dad and I were good not long after but my codefuckingpendent mom got in the middle and stirred up the shit and went completely off the reservation. She's done it a hndful of times over the years but I could chalk it up to shit like menopause or me being a dipshit. She acted up a couple months ago and ended up at least apologizing for her childish behavior that time. We'll see how she does this time. I told her to quit acting like a ten year old and she promptly went on to act like a ten year old. I'm getting too old for this shit. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 01, 2008, 04:49:53 PM
Later gang.
Congrats again Scott.
I'm sure another cute was is is in the oven.
~Brian
Thanks bro. :thumbs:
Have a good one.
Just talk it out with them. Tell them these episodes have to stop. And tell them its time to move that three years up to 3 months.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 05:05:17 PM
Just talk it out with them. Tell them these episodes have to stop. And tell them its time to move that three years up to 3 months.
It was just a weird day. My dad knows that he isn't relevant (of course you can't tell him this) and he's struggling with that. It's days like these that make me wanna punch the ticket and pop smoke and head west.
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 05:11:08 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 05:05:17 PM
Just talk it out with them. Tell them these episodes have to stop. And tell them its time to move that three years up to 3 months.
It was just a weird day. My dad knows that he isn't relevant (of course you can't tell him this) and he's struggling with that. It's days like these that make me wanna punch the ticket and pop smoke and head west.
I'm still hoping we both do.
:lol:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 05:14:24 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on December 01, 2008, 05:11:08 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 01, 2008, 05:05:17 PM
Just talk it out with them. Tell them these episodes have to stop. And tell them its time to move that three years up to 3 months.
It was just a weird day. My dad knows that he isn't relevant (of course you can't tell him this) and he's struggling with that. It's days like these that make me wanna punch the ticket and pop smoke and head west.
I'm still hoping we both do.
:lol:
That would be the ticket. :thumbs:
I'm gonna bounce. I'll holla at ya.
Later Buddha. Congrats again. :thumbs:
http://gizmodo.com/5100377/boeing-airborne-laser-weapon-fires-for-the-first-time
Boeing Airborne Laser Team Fires High-Energy Laser Through Beam Control System
EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif., Dec. 01, 2008 — The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA], industry teammates and the U.S. Missile Defense Agency last week fired a high-energy laser through the Airborne Laser's (ABL) beam control/fire control system, completing the first ground test of the entire weapon system integrated aboard the aircraft.
During the test at Edwards Air Force Base, the laser beam traveled through the beam control/fire control system before exiting the aircraft through the nose-mounted turret. The beam control/fire control system steered and focused the beam onto a simulated ballistic-missile target.
"This test is significant because it demonstrated that the Airborne Laser missile defense program has successfully integrated the entire weapon system aboard the ABL aircraft," said Scott Fancher, vice president and general manager of Boeing Missile Defense Systems. "With the achievement of the first firing of the laser aboard the aircraft in September, the team has now completed the two major milestones it hoped to accomplish in 2008, keeping ABL on track to conduct the missile shootdown demonstration planned for next year."
Michael Rinn, Boeing vice president and ABL program director, said the next step for the program is a series of longer-duration laser firings through the beam control/fire control system.
"Once we complete those tests, we will begin demonstrating the entire weapon system in flight," Rinn said. "The team is meeting its commitment to deliver this transformational directed-energy weapon system in the near term."
The program has logged many accomplishments over the past several years. In 2005, the high-energy laser demonstrated lethal levels of duration and power in the System Integration Laboratory at Edwards. In 2007, ABL completed numerous flight tests that demonstrated its ability to track an airborne target, measure and compensate for atmospheric conditions, and deliver a surrogate high-energy laser's simulated lethal beam on the target. In September 2008, the team achieved "first light" by firing the high-energy laser into a calorimeter aboard the aircraft.
Boeing is the prime contractor for ABL, which will provide speed-of-light capability to destroy all classes of ballistic missiles in their boost phase of flight.
The ABL aircraft is a modified Boeing 747-400F whose back half holds the high-energy laser, designed and built by Northrop Grumman. The front section of the aircraft contains the beam control/fire control system, developed by Lockheed Martin, and the battle management system, provided by Boeing.
Reminds me of the 80's movie Real Genius.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 02, 2008, 08:59:20 AM
Reminds me of the 80's movie Real Genius.
~Brian
One of my favorite 80's flicks!
Lazlo, the dude in that lives in the walls was uncle Rico in Napoleon Dynamite. :lol:
Great story Krandall :thumbs:
Quote from: Peels660 on December 02, 2008, 09:17:44 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 02, 2008, 08:59:20 AM
Reminds me of the 80's movie Real Genius.
~Brian
One of my favorite 80's flicks!
Lazlo, the dude in that lives in the walls was uncle Rico in Napoleon Dynamite. :lol:
Great story Krandall :thumbs:
Holy shit, I just realized that.
Uncle Rico rocks.
~Brian
Love the All-state quarterback video he tries to make. :lol:
Quote from: Peels660 on December 02, 2008, 09:30:29 AM
Love the All-state quarterback video he tries to make. :lol:
That was awesome.
Love the nut shot.
~Brian
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Remember all the talk during the presidential campaign about a middle-class tax cut? It could be showing up in your paycheck early next year.
As the debate heats up over how to pull the economy from the ledge, it's likely that tax cuts for the middle-class will play a central role.
President-elect Barack Obama hopes to have a massive economic stimulus plan waiting for his signature when he takes office on Jan. 20. It's expected to include hundreds of billions in spending on infrastructure and green energy, but he also made clear last week that he wants it to also feature tax cuts to lower- and middle-income Americans.
Tax cuts are "part and parcel of what we need when it comes to stimulus," Obama said last week.
"We're going to be putting money in people's pockets so that they can spend on buying a new computer for their kid's school, so that they can, you know, make sure that they are able to deal with heat and groceries and all the other strains on the family budget," he added.
The long-term benefit, in his view: It would create more fairness in the tax code.
One promise he made but may hold off on for awhile: the reversal of some of the Bush tax cuts for high-income taxpayers, who are roughly defined as individuals making more than $200,000 and couples making more than $250,000. Specifically, Obama has said he would increase the top two income tax rates and the capital gains rate to their pre-2001 levels.
Mindful that a tax increase during a recession might do more harm than good, he and his advisers have left open the possibility that they might wait to implement the increases until 2011, rather than next year. "Whether [the tax rate changes are] done through repeal or whether that's done because the Bush tax cuts are not renewed is something that my economic team will be providing me a recommendation on," Obama said at a press conference last week.
Tax cut considerations
Some economists think tax cuts for the middle class might be one way to create or save some of the 2.5 million jobs Obama has promised over the next two years if lawmakers put together the kind of stimulus package he envisions.
Others say it's a bad idea.
"It would be a serious mistake to enact tax cuts aimed at increasing already excessive consumption," wrote Stephen Roach, chairman of Morgan Stanley Asia, in the New York Times last week. "The Obama administration needs to encourage the sort of saving that will put consumers on sounder financial footing and free up resources."
So what kind of tax cuts are being considered? Obama's transition team isn't offering details yet and one Democratic aide on the Hill told CNNMoney.com that specifics have not yet been discussed.
But in talking about his economic recovery package, Obama has mentioned his campaign promise to offer a "net tax cut" for "95% of American workers."
One option that could get Obama a good way toward that 95% is his proposed Making Work Pay credit -- a centerpiece promise in his campaign. The credit would essentially work as a payroll tax credit equal to $500 for individuals and $1,000 for couples.
The credit would have an income threshold. Only those making $75,000 or less ($150,000 or less for couples) would get the full credit. Individuals making between $75,000 and $85,000 (and couples making between $150,000 and $170,000) would get a partial credit.
The credit also would be refundable, meaning that even tax filers without any tax liability -- typically very low-income workers -- would receive one.
Rather than mail out checks to consumers, the IRS, together with employers, could coordinate a change in how much money is withheld from workers' paychecks, so they'd simply get a bigger paycheck.
Economist Mark Zandi, however, believes a payroll tax credit like the kind Obama has proposed could be tricky to implement because it's based on income. As a result, it could take longer to take effect than, say, an across-the-board payroll tax holiday -- a temporary suspension of the payroll tax viewed by some as another way to boost spending.
"Under the Obama payroll tax credit, payroll and other accounting software would have to be recoded and implemented across many businesses," said Zandi, chief economist for Moody's Economy.com.
Even though the short-term impact of such a credit could be muted, it has more potential bang for the buck in the long run than a tax holiday.
"A payroll tax credit would provide more of a spending boost since it is a permanent change in the tax code," Zandi said. "Households are more likely to spend a tax cut if it is the result of a permanent change rather than a temporary one."
~Brian
I have been watching this. I think we may see a little relief. :thumbs:
one thing is to say and another is to do! ;)
Thought this was pretty cool:
http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/autos_content_landing_pages/775/ford-says-ceo-will-work-for-1-to-get-loans/
DETROIT – Ford Motor Co. will tell Congress that it plans to return to a pretax profit or break even in 2011 when the Detroit Three automakers' CEOs appear before lawmakers this week to request $25 billion in government loans.
Ford CEO Alan Mulally said he'll work for $1 per year if the company has to take any government loan money.
After grilling the CEOs at hearings last month, Congressional leaders demanded plans from the automakers by Tuesday to show that they will survive if they get federal funds. The plan Ford submitted said the company will cancel all management employees' 2009 bonuses and will not pay any merit increases for its North American salaried employees next year.
The company also said it will sell its five corporate aircraft. The CEOs of all three Detroit automakers were harshly criticized during last month's hearings for flying to Washington in separate corporate jets.
Mulally said in an interview with The Associated Press on Tuesday that Ford will give much more detail to Congress than it did previously, and the company will emphasize the steps it has taken to cut its labor costs with the United Auto Workers union.
Mulally said Ford will seek $9 billion as its share of the loan money but may not need to use it. The Dearborn-based company has said it has enough cash to make it through next year without assistance.
As part of the plan submitted to Congress, Ford said it does not anticipate a liquidity crisis in 2009, "barring a bankruptcy by one of its domestic competitors or a more severe economic downturn that would further cripple automotive sales." The loan would provide a safeguard against worsening conditions, the company said.
The company said it will accelerate plans to roll out electric vehicles as part of its plan.
"We are going to do that across our product line," Mulally said in the interview.
The first plug-in vehicle will be a Transit Connect small van for commercial use in 2010 and a car the size of the Ford Focus compact the following year.
Ford also said it will accelerate plans for hybrid gas-electric vehicles.
Mulally said he will encourage automakers and parts suppliers to join forces to develop new battery technologies in the U.S. for future electric cars so the country doesn't rely on foreign batteries.
"We don't want to trade oil for batteries," he said.
Ford's plan calls for an investment of up to $14 billion to improve fuel efficiency over the next seven years. The company said would improve the overall efficiency of its fleet by an average of 14 percent in 2009.
The CEOs of the Detroit Three are scheduled to appear before congressional committees Thursday and Friday. Chrysler LLC and General Motors Corp. have said they are perilously low on cash and need the government loans to survive the recession and the worst auto sales environment in 25 years.
GM and Chrysler were to submit their plans to Congress later in the day. At an appearance in Baltimore on Tuesday morning, Chrysler President and Vice Chairman Jim Press didn't give details of the business plan that Chrysler will present, but said it will tackle product mix, vehicle pricing and quality and fiscal responsibility.
Press said all players, including banks and labor, have agreed to "all the concessions that are necessary."
The CEOs were skewered on their first visit in November, when lawmakers criticized them for high labor costs and products that aren't competitive with foreign automakers.
"I think we learned a lot from that experience," Mulally said in the interview, adding that the CEOs were there last time to discuss the progress of the industry, not a plan for viability.
Ford's new plan is 32 pages long, plus an appendix, and it includes much detail that was lacking during the first visit.
The company says its plan to achieve profitability or break even by 2011 is based on industrywide sales estimates of 12.5 million units in 2009, 14.5 million in 2010 and 15.5 million in 2011. The seasonally adjusted annual sales rate dropped to 10.6 million vehicles in October.
Ford shares rose 25 cents, or 9.8 percent, to $2.80 in midday trading.
Ford's plan said it will reduce its number of dealers by 606 to 3,790 by the end of the year. It will also trim the number of major sourcing suppliers it uses to 750 from 1,600.
Ford reiterated its intention to offload Volvo, by either selling the Swedish automaker or spinning it off into a separate company. Since 2007, Ford has sold its Jaguar, Aston Martin and Land Rover lines. It also sold most of its stake in Mazda.
I think it was a good move, show that you are willing to do whatever it takes.
It's about damn time someone high up steps up.....
I think Chrysler's CEO works for peanuts now, especially after Home Depot paid him ridiculous money to leave.
~Brian
NORTH HALEDON, N.J. — A message in a bottle tossed into the ocean off Barnegat Bay has turned up in North Carolina — 39 years later.
The note was sealed in a Schaefer beer bottle. It was dated Aug. 17, 1969 and read: "If found notify the North Haledon Fire Co. .2."
Mark Ciarmello and his 3-year-old daughter found the bottle along a beach in Corolla, N.C., in October. That's about 400 miles from where it was released.
The Downingtown, Pa., resident says he got on his cell phone, called North Haledon and e-mailed photos of the bottle to the firefighters.
No one is sure who tossed the bottle. But firefighters suspect it was during one of the many fishing trips that they used to take years ago.
Story via FoxNews.com
~Brian
thats sweet. I'd love to find a "Message in a Bottle"
Quote from: Krandall on December 02, 2008, 01:02:57 PM
thats sweet. I'd love to find a "Message in a Bottle"
Holy hell your gay! :fruity:
Unroll the message and it reads: "You're so gay!"
:rofl:
~Brian
:lol: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
It's on guitar hero okay! :lol:
Quote from: Krandall on December 02, 2008, 01:51:47 PM
:lol: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
It's on guitar hero okay! :lol:
Are sure it's not "Genie in a Bottle?"
:lol:
~Brian
It's not a bottle you'd catch me rubbin. :lol:
Noted.
:lol:
~Brian
GM Ceasing Corporate Aviation Operations
DETROIT -- GM today announced that it is ceasing operations at General Motors Air Transportation Services (GMATS) at Detroit Metro Airport.
Due to significant cutbacks over the past months, GM travel volume no longer justifies a dedicated corporate aircraft operation.
GM is currently exploring options for transferring its aircraft to another operator. The company is pursuing sale of four of the aircraft so it can terminate the leases.
GM will shutter the facility at Metro Airport effective January 1, 2009. GM will work with the airport to seek a tenant for the balance of the lease, which expires in 2009.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Now I'm sure they will just charter jets, or buy fractional shares.
~Brian
Ford did the same.
Buy into a private jet lease...instead of a fleet. Do you need a fleet when your business is in the tank?
This just makes me sick.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/04/news/companies/saving_detroit/index.htm
The CEOs of the nation's Big Three automakers are on Capitol Hill today asking for a $34 billion bailout package. GM wants $18 billion, Chrysler $7 billion and Ford wants up to $9 billion as a backstop. Their last visit to Capitol Hill was a public relations disaster. Each CEO flew to D.C. in their own corporate jets. This time, they all drove fuel-efficient hybrids.
And since the Big Three's 14,000 dealers employ about 740,000 people nationwide, legislators have to worry about rising job losses if a Big Three automaker were to fail -- even if their district is no where near the Midwest auto belt.
Thats won't cost dealerships, what is costing dealerships is the credit markets and lack of consumer confidence.
It's time for some of that "Feel Good" talk E's dad was talking about the press unleashing. One thing about Clinton first taking office, everything was a positive coming from the press, no "doom and gloom" talk. Get on with it already, I've got bills to pay!
~Brian
No shit, they still are putting a negative spin on everything. Maybe we'll have to wait for Obama to get into office. They don't want to push any good news at all just in case it reflects positively on Bush.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 04, 2008, 09:01:15 AM
No shit, they still are putting a negative spin on everything. Maybe we'll have to wait for Obama to get into office. They don't want to push any good news at all just in case it reflects positively on Bush.
I think the doom and gloom stuff has peaked. Now it all revolves around the big three and job loss reports.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 04, 2008, 08:58:39 AM
Thats won't cost dealerships, what is costing dealerships is the credit markets and lack of consumer confidence.
It's time for some of that "Feel Good" talk E's dad was talking about the press unleashing. One thing about Clinton first taking office, everything was a positive coming from the press, no "doom and gloom" talk. Get on with it already, I've got bills to pay!
~Brian
+1 Getting monotonous now. Yeah...we know it's not going well, find something else to talk about. :mad:
But big business execs have to remember the rest of us are out here. And not to be wasteful. Just out of respect....Very disheartening to see a bread line followed by the CEO of a large corporation sipping champagne on his private jet...all on the same news program.
GM's Wagoner makes $40,000 per day.
WTF?
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 04, 2008, 09:23:16 AM
GM's Wagoner makes $40,000 per day.
WTF?
~Brian
knock him down to 40k a year...and hire 364 other people! :lol:
But if anyone of us worked out way up to his level we would be pissed if someone asked us to only make 40k.
I understand the whole work your way up the food chain. Obviously they've put in their time. But I don't care how much shit you deal with in a day... It sure as hell isn't enough to make $40k a DAY! :jaw:
Are you kidding me.. Come on...there's plenty of people that'd be qualified for that position and would be more than willing to make 100k a year.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 04, 2008, 09:30:38 AM
But if anyone of us worked out way up to his level we would be pissed if someone asked us to only make 40k.
good point, but that exorbitant amount is still bs!
Are you kidding me krandall, there is NO WAY I would do his job for 100k.
And I agree Eric, I feel the CEO of a company that size should be around 2-3mil per year. 14 is way too high.
Some jobs, you should earn a bucketload of dough. This is one of them. But, like you said, bit too much. I was thinkin' High 6 figures- 1 mil, though. This guy has way more stress than I could ever imagine, probably has to leave his family all the time. Not something I would do, then have to come home and worry about $!
F**K that!
If you can't live well on 1 million bucks a year, you need help.
High 6 digits is still a bit low for what he does. And anyone can live on 1 mil per year, thats not the issue. I see 2-3mil as an acceptable number.
He's paid more than some pro athletes.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 04, 2008, 10:05:56 AM
He's paid more than some pro athletes.
~Brian
yes he is, and he does way more then they do. I'm not saying the 14.6 he's making is ok. But he should be up in the low 7 digit range.
Oops, had the "f**k that" in the wrong spot. fixed :grin_nod: The emphasis was supposed to be on the amount of stress and b.s. this sort of position comes with vs. what it brings in. Alot of people count on this guy and others like him. I would not want to deal with it, then come home and deal with $ problems. He should have no worries, so his focus can remain clear. I would expect to be paid a ton, but....Not 14 tons. ;)
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 04, 2008, 10:05:56 AM
He's paid more than some pro athletes.
~Brian
I don't even want to get into the pro athlete thing. WHiners! Millions a year, then they squander it on crap. ANd we all but grant them sainthood for their stupidity. :mad:
They need somone who's willing to stand up to the UAW, and this douche is a yes man.
~Brian
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 04, 2008, 09:39:49 AM
Are you kidding me krandall, there is NO WAY I would do his job for 100k.
And I agree Eric, I feel the CEO of a company that size should be around 2-3mil per year. 14 is way too high.
That's fine if YOU wouldn't do his job. All I'm saying is, there's more than enough people in this f*cked up country that could do his job, do it well, and be more than fine w/ a 100k a year paycheck. I was using that number as a mere number, that's all.
There's more than enough people in this world that are over paid. I don't blame them by any means, if the company is willing to pay them and
think they are worth millions a year. I think they need to do some serious re-thinking.
You need a better understanding of what the CEO does. There are very few that can do their jobs and I bet not one of them that could would be willing to do it for 100k. They doesn't just think they work 7 digits, they know.
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 04, 2008, 10:17:02 AM
They need somone who's willing to stand up to the UAW, and this douche is a yes man.
~Brian
That is a problem that a salary concession will not fix....... :lol:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 04, 2008, 10:22:59 AM
You need a better understanding of what the CEO does. There are very few that can do their jobs and I bet not one of them that could would be willing to do it for 100k. They doesn't just think they work 7 digits, they know.
Just like only 2 were good enough to run the United States? :rolleyes:
The president of our amazing country makes $400,000 a year..... why is the ceo of any company making more than someone like him?
Do you really think the president only makes 400k. :confused: They get kick backs from EVERYONE.
And what does he have to pay for out of that 400k....not much. And he has the craziest 747 to haul him around.
Well said.
I'm convinced someone could walk into GM with a little experience in manufacturing and paint it black in a short time.
If there were some strong numbers posted on how the company was saving money, this would spur investors.
~Brian
I'm sure he gets kick backs.
But the listed salary paid is $400,000...
Fine. Make the CEO's Salary $500,000 and he can get kick backs, at least it looks better on paper.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 04, 2008, 10:30:53 AM
Do you really think the president only makes 400k. :confused: They get kick backs from EVERYONE.
And what does he have to pay for out of that 400k....not much. And he has the craziest 747 to haul him around.
Great post. :thumbs: CEO's are led by a bad example. :lol:
Quote from: Krandall on December 04, 2008, 10:33:56 AM
I'm sure he gets kick backs.
But the listed salary paid is $400,000...
Fine. Make the CEO's Salary $500,000 and he can get kick backs, at least it looks better on paper.
He doesn't have to pay for anything....food, housing, transportion, clothing or travel. That 400k is just play money.
I think a base salary of 1-3mil for a top ceo is on target.
Sop here's some wonderful breaking news.
Flipping through the channels the other day, I see they gave Britney F**king Spears her own reality television show. Seriously wtf.
THese are the people we choose to champion as as celebrities? And they profit from our indifference.
It just gets better and better.......
Producer to ms. spears:
"you are an absolute f**king moron and a drug crazed slut, here is some money"
I wish I could run my dept that way. :lol:
:mad: I know, I know, if you don't like it don't watch it......blah blah f**kin blah. This kind of crap is proliferating every day life now, whereas before, it was only on here and there. It makes me sick. I have to search carefully for positive role models for my boys, but people like this get primetime billing. It is friggin' disgusting and I want to puke.
Have a nice day! :lol:
I think its a dumb idea that she's getting a show but I am happy to see that she's getting her life back on track....for her kids sake.
Unfortunately, I doubt they will focus on the two positives you just mentioned. (i wasn't aware she had gotten on the right track) You don't see that in the news. You only see "train wrecks" But...if I were here, I would stay way the f**k away from the limelight, for her family's sake.
Yes, it is the kids again that pisses me off the most about stuff like this. :confused:
my wife watches tmz so I'm stuck hearing about it. She's done quite well over the last few months and rumor is she was crazy back then because her "manager" was drugging her. She's got everything in control now with the help of her parents.
There for a while she was bat shit crazy.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 04, 2008, 11:29:17 AM
There for a while she was bat shit crazy.
~Brian
She just needed a visit from yours truly. :lol:
My point really isn't that it she is/was wacko, just that this crap gets such high billing, and I have to dig to find some important stuff...or have it explained to me by complete strangers via an internet atv forum. :lol:
And it might be a sign of thecoming status quo for my children's generation. :(
The picture of her with the shaved head beating the shit out of the Ford Explorer with the umbrella takes the cake.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 04, 2008, 11:44:35 AM
The picture of her with the shaved head beating the shit out of the Ford Explorer with the umbrella takes the cake.
~Brian
no...the day I turned on the news...and it was a live update. "Britney is in a salon getting her haircut"
ERMAHGERD ERMAHGERD ERMAHGERD What do I do!!!!!! :lol:
Views from the helicopter and all. I was proud to be an American at that point.
Yeah Erich, my wife watches that stuff sometimes too. She calls it her guilty pleasure. :lol: NOt all that often thank goodness.
On a related note: I have a personal problem with all reality shows in general. The one I can't stand right now...is the one with family of 20 kids or whatever it is. How does that lady raise her kids...if she is always on her back? By watching this show, we basically reward them for screwing alot. :lol: How do I get that contract? :thumbs: Don't say a bag of white rocks either. :lol: :P
Bag of green leafy substance?
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 04, 2008, 12:01:48 PM
Bag of green leafy substance?
:lol:
~Brian
rocks get you more. Weed is just for fun..meth is for life. :lol:
So is tooth loss.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 04, 2008, 12:06:32 PM
So is tooth loss.
:lol:
~Brian
touche' :lol:
"you may not live long, but you'll be awake for all of it!!!!!" Peels' new slogan.
Quote from: Peels660 on December 04, 2008, 12:09:26 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 04, 2008, 12:06:32 PM
So is tooth loss.
:lol:
~Brian
touche' :lol:
"you may not live long, but you'll be awake for all of it!!!!!" Peels' new slogan.
You could steal Caribou's slogan..
"Life's Short, Stay Awake for It" :lol:
Quote from: Krandall on December 04, 2008, 12:10:34 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on December 04, 2008, 12:09:26 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 04, 2008, 12:06:32 PM
So is tooth loss.
:lol:
~Brian
touche' :lol:
"you may not live long, but you'll be awake for all of it!!!!!" Peels' new slogan.
You could steal Caribou's slogan..
"Life's Short, Stay Awake for It" :lol:
Noted, thanks. Though not sure how much corporate image drives my market. :lol:
:lol: How about "life is short...don't sleep, ever!" :lol:
Quote from: Peels660 on December 04, 2008, 12:09:26 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 04, 2008, 12:06:32 PM
So is tooth loss.
:lol:
~Brian
touche' :lol:
"you may not live long, but you'll be awake for all of it!!!!!" Peels' new slogan.
Post of the Day!
~Brian
way to go me! :clap: :lol:
GOt a lil' chuckle out of this one:
Osama bin Laden is a drug-crazed sex addict who enjoys sex with animals while snorting cocaine through a National Lottery ticket from prostitutes' naked breasts, we can reveal. :lol:
We have found Brian a new soul-mate.
-The Rockall times.
http://www.therockalltimes.co.uk/2001/11/12/bin-laden-chicken.html
Where the f*ck do you find this shit?
:lol:
~Brian
OK a serious one for ya'. All for it if it keeps people working, fed and warm. Will be tough to let the Nostalgia go.
DETROIT, Dec. 4, 2008 (Reuters) — General Motors Corp and Chrysler LLC said on Thursday they would be open to a merger if the U.S. government mandated it as a condition for providing the emergency financing they say is needed to allow them to survive into 2009.
http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre4b37j7-us-chrysler-gm/
Two of the senators on the panel have brokered sweatheart deals for their state and FOREIGN car makers.
Senator douchebag from Tennessee (Bob Corker) is helping VW...
http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_139277.asp
....and Senator Toyota....err....Senator Honda.....err.....Senator Mercedes Benz......err......Senator Shelby (former Democrat, now Republican) already has welcomed foreign car makers to his state.....Benz, Honda, and Toyota.
Assholes.
~Brian
I am not an domestic car fan personally, but letting ours die while letting the rest in, bad news! Fair shake for all! They need help. :confused:
lol at senator douchebag. :lol:
Both Republicans, one is a former leech...err....lawyer.
~Brian
These factories employ thousands of workers. I would do anything I could to get them into my state too.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 04, 2008, 06:14:46 PM
These factories employ thousands of workers. I would do anything I could to get them into my state too.
I see that point too. But...I just don't want that to beat the cost of domestic brands disappearing.
That isn't the cause of the big 3's problems. That rests on bad planing and the UAW milking them dry.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 04, 2008, 07:18:23 PM
That isn't the cause of the big 3's problems. That rests on bad planing and the UAW milking them dry.
100% agree
Quote from: Peels660 on December 04, 2008, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 04, 2008, 07:18:23 PM
That isn't the cause of the big 3's problems. That rests on bad planing and the UAW milking them dry.
100% agree
And I think both of you have your heads up your asses. :bird:
Quote from: Mad Dog on December 04, 2008, 09:15:24 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on December 04, 2008, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 04, 2008, 07:18:23 PM
That isn't the cause of the big 3's problems. That rests on bad planing and the UAW milking them dry.
100% agree
And I think both of you have your heads up your asses. :bird:
Hilarious response....love it. :lol:
Breaking news!
Eben is at my house..
Quote from: Krandall on December 04, 2008, 11:54:05 PM
Breaking news!
Eben is at my house..
You lush.
You don't hold your liquor well do you?
:lol:
~Brian
OSHKOSH, Wis. – The leader of a Wisconsin Salvation Army will lose his job if he goes ahead with plans to marry outside the organization.
Capt. Johnny Harsh of Oshkosh is engaged to a woman who's not affiliated with the Salvation Army. They're planning to marry in June.
Harsh says he's well aware of the agency's rule that says an officer may only marry another officer of the organization. But he doesn't think it's fair.
Salvation Army Advisory Board member Helen Lord Burr says the agency's rules are the same all over the world.
Harsh became engaged after losing his wife, Capt. Yalanda Harsh, to complications of a heart attack last June.
??? How can an organiazation fire you because of who you marry?
Quote from: Mad Dog on December 04, 2008, 09:15:24 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on December 04, 2008, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 04, 2008, 07:18:23 PM
That isn't the cause of the big 3's problems. That rests on bad planing and the UAW milking them dry.
100% agree
And I think both of you have your heads up your asses. :bird:
Put up a decent argument and we'll listen. Not the "facts" you put up before. Your info doesn't even match what the UAW is saying.
:lol:
Quote from: Mad Dog on December 04, 2008, 09:15:24 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on December 04, 2008, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 04, 2008, 07:18:23 PM
That isn't the cause of the big 3's problems. That rests on bad planing and the UAW milking them dry.
100% agree
And I think both of you have your heads up your asses. :bird:
It's no big secret the Republicans want to destroy unions. I'm not a huge fan of them, but they do protect certain aspect of employee rights. After the depression, unions were created to protect workers from employers engaging in unfair labor practices. In today's society, they negotiate the conditions of employment to ridiculous levels of compensation and benefits for members.
~Brian
I think the government needs to do the Big three bail out diffrently.
I say give them "Some" of the money they need. Then give ~15K-20K a piece to families in dire need of a new vehicle to use ONLY on one of the US automakers products. Let the big three compete for there survival and help the people that need it at the same time. Also, with an amount of cash upfront like that for a car, credit will be established- re-established with a lower risk to the banks.
Aaron
The Detroit Free Press Published this article today and sent it to every member of Congress.
DEAR MEMBERS OF CONGRESS:
You don't want an economic disaster on your hands. Not when you could have prevented it. And not in times that are already the worst in a generation.
Why we're sending this message
The Free Press is sending copies of this edition to members of Congress.
We have chronicled the U.S. auto industry since its birth, as Detroit became the world's Motor City, as cars and trucks changed the American culture and landscape, as assembly line jobs gave rise to the American middle class. Our journalists have reported the automakers' triumphs and exposed their troubles. We know this industry better than anyone.
We also know that while a newspaper needs to inform, there are times when a newspaper needs to speak up for what's right.
We know what automakers and autoworkers mean to this nation. We know what will happen if one of the auto companies is allowed to collapse. We know because this industry has been our story since it started.
And we know that America needs this story to continue.
-- Paul Anger, editor
But that's exactly what you'll have — and more — if one of the three Detroit automakers goes belly-up for lack of a government-backed loan. There will be economic hell to pay — not just in Detroit, but all across America, including in your state, in your district.
The loss of jobs, the devastated retirements, the massive loss of health care coverage, the sharp drop in local tax revenues, the closings of supplier and ancillary businesses — all would be calamitous in the best of times. And these are not that. Just ask the people you represent.
More than 3 million jobs are at stake in the industry. General Motors, Ford and Chrysler are threaded in the fabric of businesses in every state across America.
A failure of one or more of the automakers would deepen the country's worst recession in 27 years, and it could take decades to rebuild the nation's industrial base, which will atrophy like an unused limb without the muscle-flexing of Detroit's automakers.
Who will buy the rubber, plastics, copper and computer chips that Americans make? Who will need all the tool and die shop workers, mold makers or software engineers who help drive the small-business economy in so many states?
You don't want all this blood on your hands. No one could.
Because the losses from an auto industry failure are about more than dry statistics. Every job associated with the industry is a family, a home, a college education, a cancer treatment or a secure retirement. Every one of those jobs is about someone making a living doing work that's vital to the nation's economic interests.
No one knows more than the people of Michigan how precious those jobs are, or how fragile they've become in a cutthroat global economy where so many countries prop up their own auto industries.
Know that the people of Michigan, and especially those who toil for the automakers, are as angry as anyone over the string of misjudgments, failures and bad decisions that contributed to the industry's woes. No one here is enthused about the idea of extending government money to a private industry with so many self-inflicted wounds. But the automakers deserve credit for real gains, including products on par with their world rivals and plants that operate among the best in the business.
Remember, too, that Detroit helped rescue America as the Arsenal of Democracy in World War II and, through GM's no-interest loans, helped jump-start the battered economy after 9/11. Now, when our automakers and autoworkers need a hand up, will America really turn its back?
The Detroit automakers are hemorrhaging cash to stay in business. Two of them are nearly drained, and the third is getting by on a transfusion. They can get well. They have shown how. But first they have to survive. And their survival is in America's best interests.
You can help them. And if you don't, make no mistake: There will be bleeding throughout the land.
~Brian
Great post Brian. They have to look at the Bigger picture. I can't say what the right plan will be, but it needs to be drastic...but it cannot be a "blank check" sort of plan. :thumbs:
BTW, Did you type all that? JEEZ! :lol:
Quote from: Peels660 on December 05, 2008, 11:39:05 AM
Great post Brian. They have to look at the Bigger picture. I can't say what the right plan will be, but it needs to be drastic...but it cannot be a "blank check" sort of plan. :thumbs:
BTW, Did you type all that? JEEZ! :lol:
Cut and paste my friend.
~Brian
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 05, 2008, 06:42:22 AM
Quote from: Mad Dog on December 04, 2008, 09:15:24 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on December 04, 2008, 07:39:45 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 04, 2008, 07:18:23 PM
That isn't the cause of the big 3's problems. That rests on bad planing and the UAW milking them dry.
100% agree
And I think both of you have your heads up your asses. :bird:
Put up a decent argument and we'll listen. Not the "facts" you put up before. Your info doesn't even match what the UAW is saying.
:lol:
The figures I posted were from legitimate new agencies and backed up by my own additional research, the foreign wages were difficult to find.
I simply think your opinion is garbage based on more garbage. To place the blame on the UAW is a reactionary response based upon a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy, complete with conclusions drawn from the perspective of and in bias towards infallible management. You're a capitalist, you shouldn't be upset that an entity cornered it's sector and benefited from it's business position. They offered a service, the auto makers took it and continued to sign contracts. Even in non-automotive fields unions have been competitive despite the presence of plenty of non-union workers in skilled trades and other areas, though certainly even these unions have seen steep declines in membership in the last two decades. Sure the UAW has abused their position at times, what powerful entity has not? Our Presidents and officials do, our corporations do, our corporate employees abuse their expense accounts/perks. Though none of this makes it morally acceptable it's clearly not out of line or uncommon in the business world. But to argue that it's the union's fault for the American auto industry turning out poor vehicles, mismanaging product supply and demand, wrongly predicting and preparing for future market and product trends, or that they are the main cause of high product prices (though often cheaper than foreign counterparts) is in my eye a narrow minded opinion. Your apparent bias makes it difficult for me to make what you would call "a decent argument" though I suppose these aren't easy or simple opinions and should not be easy to overturn. I understand you have made solid opinions and that's fine, I'm done trying to convince you because frankly I think all it'll do is annoy the both of us and leave us no closer to understanding or accepting the others point of view.
I think a lot of the complaints and criticisms come from jealousy, not yours necessarily but certainly others. Some people are just sore they weren't given the opportunity to enjoy UAW membership and employment and therefore condemn and ridicule the UAW. I don't spend too much time contemplating arguments based upon jealousy and hypocrisy. I know I would have jumped at the chance for such employment and would have worked hard at my job just as most UAW workers do. As always in everything the few tarnish the reputation of the many, just as that one idiot doing donuts in the gravel parking lot of the riding area makes us all look bad a handful of slothful and worthless UAW workers brings down the image of the entire group.
As for the "bail-out", keep in mind that the gov't isn't giving away money here, they're just guaranteeing a portion of the loans that the automakers want but aren't secure and stable enough to get or get at a reasonable rate. When Chrysler and Lee Iacocca got 1.5 billion in guarantees the Gov't ended up making money and doing it ahead of schedule. This didn't save Chrysler but it kept the situation from spiraling to bankruptcy or worse closing their doors. You don't seem to see the same kind of scrutiny aimed at the financial institutions when they got 800 billion as the automakers are having to jump through to get less than 5% of that.
MINNEAPOLIS — A Minnesota man has pleaded guilty to answering an online advertisement for baby-sitting work and then using the client's child to make a pornographic video.
Aaron Jay Lemon of Little Canada admitted Wednesday to producing the video in a plea deal with federal prosecutors.
The 23-year-old also admitted to coercing a minor to engage in sexually explicit conduct.
The plea agreement says Lemon filmed the child in St. Paul after seeking the baby-sitting job through Craigslist.
St. Paul police spokesman Peter Panos tells the St. Paul Pioneer Press that the victim was a 2-year-old girl.
The U.S. Attorney's office says the case was part of a project that encourages agencies to investigate the sexual exploitation of children over the Internet.
The office says Lemon potentially faces a maximum of 30 years in prison.
Hey Randy, don't you live in Little Canada?
~Brian
Some times your just funny Mad Dog. You still have a lot to learn.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 05, 2008, 01:20:07 PM
Some times your just funny Mad Dog. You still have a lot to learn.
Well Mr. MENSA if I wanted someone to look down their nose at me I'd go visit my some of my ex-girlfriends' parents. Enjoy your throne upon high oh great beacon of light, I'm perfectly happy to drudge around in the dark with other poor, uneducated masses.
I'm not looking down my nose at anyone. I think you just need a better understanding of how the UAW affects the industry. And by the way, I've found more knowledge in people that have never set foot on a college campus.
:help:
~Brian
O.J. Simpson Sentenced to Up to 33 Years in Prison for Armed Robbery and Kidnapping
Friday , December 05, 2008
O.J. Simpson was sentenced Friday to up to 33 years in prison for armed robbery and kidnapping in a failed attempt to recover sports memorabilia from two collectibles dealers.
Simpson will be eligible for parole after nine years.
His co-defendant Clarence "C.J." Stewart was sentenced to at least 15 years behind bars.
"We are pleased," said Simpson attorney Yale Galanter after the hearing.
Before Judge Jackie Glass handed down her decision, the 61-year-old fallen football star — clad in a blue prison jumpsuit, shackles and handcuffs — apologized to her and the Las Vegas court after learning he won't be able to be freed on bail if he appeals.
"I stand before you today sorry," an emotional Simpson told Glass, fighting back tears. "I am apologetic to the people of Nevada. ... When I came here, I came here for a wedding. I didn't come to reclaim property."
He said he thought he was taking advantage of an opportunity to retrieve mementos that were rightfully his, including sports memorabilia and his first wife's wedding ring, when he burst into a Las Vegas hotel room on Sept. 13, 2007.
"In no way did I mean to hurt anybody, to steal anything from anyone," Simpson said. "I didn't want anybody else's stuff. I just wanted my own. I realize that I was stupid. I am sorry. I didn't know that I was doing anything illegal. I thought I was retrieving property from friends. I'm sorry, I'm sorry for all of it."
But the judge emphasized that it was a violent confrontation in which at least one gun was drawn, and she said someone could have been killed. She said the case was unusual because the planning, the confrontation itself and the aftermath were all recorded on audio or videotape.
"The evidence in this case was overwhelming," she said. "This was actually a very violent event."
The judge said several times that her sentence in the Las Vegas case had nothing to do with Simpson's 1994 acquittal in the slaying of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ron Goldman in Los Angeles.
"I'm not here to try and cause any retribution or any payback for anything else," Glass said.
The former Hall of Famer, who walked away a free man in 1995 after his celebrated murder trial, faced mandatory prison time of between six years and life behind bars.
Before Glass read his sentence, she ruled that Simpson cannot be freed on bail pending a possible appeal.
Simpson and his co-defendant and former golfing buddy, 54-year-old Stewart, were convicted Oct. 3 of 12 criminal charges, including kidnapping and armed robbery. Neither Simpson nor Stewart testified at the trial.
Stewart also spoke at the sentencing hearing and apologized to the state of Nevada. He said he bore no ill will toward anyone involved. He asked the court for leniency and said he prays for forgiveness.
Jurors who heard 13 days of testimony said after the verdict that they were convinced of Simpson's guilt because of audio recordings middleman Thomas Riccio secretly made of the 2007 Palace Station casino hotel confrontation with sports memorabilia brokers Alfred Beardsley and Bruce Fromong.
"Don't let nobody out of this room!" Simpson commands on the recordings, and instructs other men to scoop up items he insists had been stolen from him.
Simpson's lawyers called his actions "stupid" and admitted he broke the law, but said they didn't rise to the level of criminality that would warrant a long prison sentence. They asked Glass to show mercy.
"As stupid and as ill-conceived as it was, it wasn't something that was from this evil mind they teach us about," Galanter said before sentencing. "Not bright, not smart, not well thought out, but certainly not from an evil mind."
Glass responded during her statements that she believed "it was much more than stupidity."
Fred Goldman and his daughter, Kim Goldman, father and sister of murder victim Ron Goldman, the friend of Simpson's slain ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, were among the 15 members of the public to gain entry to the courtroom.
Simpson's two sisters, Shirley Baker and Carmelita Durio, sat in the front row of the courtroom, along with his adult daughter.
Most of the 63 seats were taken by media, lawyers and family members of the defendants.
After sentencing was over, the Goldmans left the courtroom and Kim threw her arms around her father and wept.
Simpson's sisters declined to comment, but Baker said on her way out: "It's not over."
Fred Goldman told reporters that "this is a bittersweet moment" but spoke of the satisfaction of seeing Simpson — whom he called an "SOB" and a "monster" — in shackles.
"He'll be where he belongs, with others of his kind," Goldman said.
What goes around, comes around.
~Brian
And you need to learn that those in glass offices shouldn't throw stones. You think I'm ignorant, I think you're full of shit. Pretty even to me, I'd just as soon call it a day and move onto some other meaningless discussions.
Quote from: Mad Dog on December 05, 2008, 01:51:20 PM
And you need to learn that those in glass offices shouldn't throw stones. You think I'm ignorant, I think you're full of shit. Pretty even to me, I'd just as soon call it a day and move onto some other meaningless discussions.
Never called you ignorant. Just said there are quite a few facts that you are unaware of or chose to ignore. The rest of us have been able to discuss this topic without any problems. You were the one to simply respond by saying we have our head up our asses. Keep the personal attacks off this forum.
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 05, 2008, 01:19:13 PM
MINNEAPOLIS — A Minnesota man has pleaded guilty to answering an online advertisement for baby-sitting work and then using the client's child to make a pornographic video.
Aaron Jay Lemon of Little Canada admitted Wednesday to producing the video in a plea deal with federal prosecutors.
The 23-year-old also admitted to coercing a minor to engage in sexually explicit conduct.
The plea agreement says Lemon filmed the child in St. Paul after seeking the baby-sitting job through Craigslist.
St. Paul police spokesman Peter Panos tells the St. Paul Pioneer Press that the victim was a 2-year-old girl.
The U.S. Attorney's office says the case was part of a project that encourages agencies to investigate the sexual exploitation of children over the Internet.
The office says Lemon potentially faces a maximum of 30 years in prison.
Hey Randy, don't you live in Little Canada?
~Brian
That's fucked up.. Straight up... yea, where I live :mad: :help:
Easy guys, both of you are extremely intelligent. But, I doubt anyone here knows ALL the facts and ramifications of the UAW and the US Automakers.
And if they do they should be running for office, and not wasting their time on an ATV forum
I work in the auto industry, and I like wasting time on an ATV forum.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Colorado700R on December 05, 2008, 02:05:56 PM
Easy guys, both of you are extremely intelligent. But, I doubt anyone here knows ALL the facts and ramifications of the UAW and the US Automakers.
And if they do they should be running for office, and not wasting their time on an ATV forum
:clap:
+ like a million! :lol: :lol: :lol:
WASHINGTON – President George W. Bush publicly acknowledged for the first time Friday that the U.S. economy is in a recession and worried aloud that Detroit's Big Three automakers may not all survive their mounting troubles.
Four days after the long-suspected existence of a recession was made official, Bush used the word himself.
"Our economy is in a recession," Bush said flatly, speaking to reporters on the South Lawn only hours after the release of a government report showing the biggest month of job losses in 34 years. "This is in large part because of severe problems in our housing, credit and financial markets, which have resulted in significant job losses."
While repeatedly listing the serious problems in the economy, the White House has refused to embrace the actual term until Monday, when a panel for the National Bureau of Economic Research said the recession began last December and is ongoing.
With automakers, particularly General Motors, in fear of bankruptcy, they are seeking from Washington a huge cash infusion of up to $34 billion, beyond an existing $25 billion loan program. Lawmakers are considering the idea, but there is uncertainty about the level of support on Capitol Hill for that plan.
Bush displayed skepticism about the wisdom of new aid to companies that still need to make "hard choices on all aspects of their business." So while urging lawmakers to act next week to help the battered industry, Bush urged a Congress controlled by opposition Democrats to follow his approach.
The president supports adjusting the $25 billion loan program, so that the money would be available more quickly and for more urgent needs than its original long-term purpose of helping to retool factories to produce more energy-efficient cars.
"I am concerned about the viability of the automobile companies," he told reporters on the South Lawn. "I am concerned about those who work for the automobile companies and their families. And likewise, I am concerned about taxpayer money being provided to these companies that may not survive."
With only 46 days left in office before President-elect Barack Obama takes over, Bush declared: "It's important to make sure that taxpayers' money be paid back if any is given to the companies."
The president spoke not long after the release of a government report showing the biggest month of job losses in 34 years. Reacting to the jobs report for November, which also showed a huge jump in the unemployment rate to 6.7 percent, Bush expressed deep concern for Americans who have lost jobs, but also said there are some encouraging signs about the credit markets. "There is still more work to do," he said. "My administration is committed to ensuring that our economy succeeds."
At 12 months, the current recession is already the longest since a severe 16-month slump in 1981-82. Many economists say this downturn will ultimately set a new record for the post-World War II period.
During Bush's eight years in office, the United States has fallen into two recessions. The first one started in March 2001 and ended in November of that year.
(http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/political-pictures-bush-recession.jpg)
~Brian
I don't understand the need to be tight lipped about stuff...
On another note...I saw an interview where he called Iraq a "do-over he can't do-over" :rolleyes: WTF Still waiting for someone to own that little faux pas! :confused: This is peoples lives, not playing h-o-r-s-e on the playground. :confused:
I have no copy paste abilities here, I heard it on the radio. NPR. Probably will see the $15b bailout for the big three soon.
It was a great story, told by a nuetral(which you rarely hear. I am softening my blame on the Union a little. I know they(and CEO's) played their part in the mess, but I had never thought about total labor cost including all retirees insurance. + Wages are around $29 per hour That is how they got to that $70 per hour average. ::)
The transplant companies 'japanese" companies, pay wages around $24-$25 per hour, with total cost being near $45. This is alot of the difference. Nissan and others don't really have retirees yet, haven't been around as long, making lower labor costs. So much more blame is pointed at the Management from me. etc. Need to Spend $ on making a few great cars instead of a $hitload of mediocre cars. :thumbs:
I do still think they make a tad bit too much for off the street unskilled labor. I am not talking about skilled labor....I can turn a wrench. :grin_nod:
what we have all been waiting for....
http://www.leftlanenews.com/mich-senator-carl-levin-very-close-to-17-billion-deal.html
Quote from: who else but rk on December 08, 2008, 03:15:29 PM
what we have all been waiting for....
http://www.leftlanenews.com/mich-senator-carl-levin-very-close-to-17-billion-deal.html
thanks for the link RK. i only heard the story on the Radio. :thumbs:
It's a temporary loan to get them through till January......Just right about the time Obama takes office so he has to deal with it.
Pass the buck please.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 08, 2008, 03:19:01 PM
It's a temporary loan to get them through till January......Just right about the time Obama takes office so he has to deal with it.
Pass the buck please.
~Brian
Doesn't have to be.
Use the $ wisely.
its funny, because i got into an argument with someone aobut if the bailout for the auto industry is right and if it is wasting money and there is no benifet to it. i just asked " doesnt your dad drive a jeep?"
I was reading, there's about 1,000,000 jobs tied to the auto industry in america.
that's fookin nuts. maybe they can make guns or tanks like during the depression.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081208/ap_on_re_us/military_jet_crash
SAN DIEGO – Military officials say a fighter jet pilot ejected safely moments before his plane crashed into a San Diego neighborhood.
Two homes were destroyed and another damaged by the crash Monday of the F/A-18D Hornet jet. A statement from Marine Corps Air Station Miramar says the fiery crash occurred two miles from the base as it prepared to land.
San Diego fire and rescue spokesman Maurice Luque says he doesn't know whether anyone on the ground was injured.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
SAN DIEGO (AP) — An F-18 military jet approaching a Marine base crashed near a busy highway in a densely populated San Diego neighborhood Monday, sparking at least one house fire.
The pilot ejected, but it wasn't immediately clear whether the pilot or anyone on the ground was injured, officials said.
The plane crashed around noon Monday as it prepared to land at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar, said Ian Gregor, a Federal Aviation Administration spokesman. The crash occurred two miles from the base.
Gregor did not know the pilot's condition or how many people were in the plane before it crashed near Interstate 805.
A high school sits near the crash site. Television news footage showed what appeared to be the remnants of a smoldering house and two cars on fire.
Steve Krasner, who lives a few blocks away in the earthquake-prone region, said he first thought the shaking generated by the crash was the long-anticipated "Big One."
He was in his kitchen when he heard two loud explosions and looked outside, then heard a larger blast.
"The house shook; the ground shook. It was like I was frozen in my place," Krasner said.
"It was bigger than any earthquake I ever felt," he said. "The flames were billowing overhead."
Dean Costa, who was about two blocks away at his father's house, said he felt the building vibrate, then made his way close to the crash site and saw two houses on fire and several cars explode.
"It was just crazy," said Costa, 22. "There was debris everywhere."
Maurice Luque, a spokesman for the San Diego Fire-Rescue Department, said he didn't know whether anyone on the ground was injured.
A Miramar spokeswoman said base workers were sent to the crash site.
"We are still trying to confirm the aircraft even belongs to us," said Marine Staff Sgt. Bobbie Bryant.
The F-18 is a supersonic jet used widely in the Navy and Marine Corps and by the Navy's stunt-flying Blue Angels. An F-18 crashed at Miramar in November 2006, but the pilot ejected safely.
Miramar, well known for its role in the movie "Top Gun," is home to some 10,000 Marines. It was operated by the Navy until 1996.
Quote from: Krandall on December 08, 2008, 03:26:43 PM
I was reading, there's about 1,000,000 jobs tied to the auto industry in america.
that's fookin nuts. maybe they can make guns or tanks like during the depression.
It is more than that Krandall. Very sad.
Quote from: who else but rk on December 08, 2008, 03:25:25 PM
its funny, because i got into an argument with someone aobut if the bailout for the auto industry is right and if it is wasting money and there is no benifet to it. i just asked " doesnt your dad drive a jeep?"
1 in ten jobs in the US are tied to the automobile industry, including my own.
Dungbeetle's too.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 08, 2008, 03:42:58 PM
Quote from: who else but rk on December 08, 2008, 03:25:25 PM
its funny, because i got into an argument with someone aobut if the bailout for the auto industry is right and if it is wasting money and there is no benifet to it. i just asked " doesnt your dad drive a jeep?"
1 in ten jobs in the US are tied to the automobile industry, including my own.
Dunbeetle's too.
~Brian
My dad makes parts for GM 8)
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 08, 2008, 03:42:58 PM
Quote from: who else but rk on December 08, 2008, 03:25:25 PM
its funny, because i got into an argument with someone aobut if the bailout for the auto industry is right and if it is wasting money and there is no benifet to it. i just asked " doesnt your dad drive a jeep?"
1 in ten jobs in the US are tied to the automobile industry, including my own.
Dunbeetle's too.
~Brian
let's not even get into the global market. ::)
Mother in law makes wiring harnesses for steering column controls. Ford I think?
Why was 800 billion given away so readily to financial institutions while the auto industry asks for less than 5% as much money and has to go through hoops and a national debate?
Quote from: Mad Dog on December 08, 2008, 06:09:51 PM
Why was 800 billion given away so readily to financial institutions while the auto industry asks for less than 5% as much money and has to go through hoops and a national debate?
Because if the banks go under, no one can spend borrowed money (what the US of A) lives on. Vs. cars... No one really needs to buy new cars.
???
Quote from: Krandall on December 08, 2008, 07:18:46 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on December 08, 2008, 06:09:51 PM
Why was 800 billion given away so readily to financial institutions while the auto industry asks for less than 5% as much money and has to go through hoops and a national debate?
Because if the banks go under, no one can spend borrowed money (what the US of A) lives on. Vs. cars... No one really needs to buy new cars.
???
No jobs = no one to pay back borrowed money. And there were a lot more than your corner bank involved in the big bailout.
I understand.. Sure the big 3 offer large ammounts of jobs to people around the country, but it's not everyone.
Quote from: Mad Dog on December 08, 2008, 06:09:51 PM
Why was 800 billion given away so readily to financial institutions while the auto industry asks for less than 5% as much money and has to go through hoops and a national debate?
there was plenty of debate for both.
Quote from: Mad Dog on December 08, 2008, 06:09:51 PM
Why was 800 billion given away so readily to financial institutions while the auto industry asks for less than 5% as much money and has to go through hoops and a national debate?
Agreed. WTF?
They are using that on bad debts, not in the credit markets.
:(
~Brian
Clearing the bad debts will free up the lending money. But I agree there shouldn't be such a stink over the automaker bailout.
Oh, and breaking news for the day. Or great Gov. Blagojevich was taken into federal custody this morning. I'll keep you posted as the news breaks. This was one reason I didn't vote for Obama, Illinois politics is the most corrupt you'll find. Two governors from this state will be in prison at the same time.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081209/us_nm/us_blagojevich_investigation
WTF?
Holy hell!
~Brian
The link is a bit slow, I'm sure because its getting hit like crazy. But here is where the latest news will be.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/12/source-feds-take-gov-blagojevich-into-custody.html
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 09, 2008, 08:06:52 AM
The link is a bit slow, I'm sure because its getting hit like crazy. But here is where the latest news will be.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/12/source-feds-take-gov-blagojevich-into-custody.html
Was watching that on the news this morning. Nice fellas, nice. ::)
doesn't suprise me. :lol:
How the f*ck did you guys in Illinois elect a Serb as govna?
~Brian
Tell me this. How active is the mafia in Chicago.. And how many ties do they have? Seems they get their way w/ the people w/ power.
This should give everyone a real glimpse at Illinois politics. This state is SO messed up. Some bad dudes.
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 09, 2008, 08:43:47 AM
How the f*ck did you guys in Illinois elect a Serb as govna?
~Brian
:lol:
<Brian removes his swastika patch> :lol:
Quote from: Krandall on December 09, 2008, 08:50:31 AM
Tell me this. How active is the mafia in Chicago.. And how many ties do they have? Seems they get their way w/ the people w/ power.
I don't want to embellish the fact but they are VERY active. They are connected to ALL political figures in Chicago and the state of Illinois. I will laugh at anyone who tells me that even Obama isn't connected to them. Its just how it's done in this state. My father was REQUIRED to use certain sub contractors on projects in order to get his permits signed off on.
Yeah, I mean, I don't blame the governors for being corrupt, especially when I would bet their life as well as their family's life could be at stake..
Disneyland's 'Jack Sparrow' Actors Fired
December 9, 2008
ANAHEIM -- Disneyland management has fired the four actors who played pirate Jack Sparrow because officials were worried about young female park-goers flashing the swashbuckling actors late at night, according to one former cast member.
"They lost control when they saw Jack Sparrow," said former pirate Brandon Pinto, who left the role after a dispute with management a year ago. "This is a sexy, rock-star pirate."
The pirate actors said they were told they were no longer needed at about the same time that additional fairies were added to the park's cast, presumably to promote Disney's new movie "Tinkerbell."
Disneyland officials confirmed that the pirate was indeed fired (due to declining relevance and diminishing visitor requests), but flatly denied published reports that the dismissal had anything to do with female fans flashing their breasts at the swashbuckling actors who portray Jack Sparrow at the Anaheim theme park.
Disneyland spokeswoman Suzi Brown called the breast-flashing rumors "absolutely false" and "simply not true."
The animatronic characters on the Pirates of the Caribbean water-wide will remain, according to Disneyland officials.
The fired Jack Sparrow actors greeted visitors and posed for photos on Tom Sawyer Island and occasionally wandered around New Orleans Square near the POTC ride. Disneyland promises the bad boy buccaneer, made famous by Johhny Depp in the trilogy of movies, will eventually return — "some day."
I miss disneyland, we hand an annual pass and would just go down to hang out on a Saturday night, hit some rides, grab some food and call it a night.
Totally miss disneyland Socal...especially now that I know chicks will randomly flash characters.
:lol:
But really. Planning on taking the littlest out there in a year and a half. We took Aidan there 2 yrs ago and to visit family. Awesome! More tiring than when you were a kid. :lol:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 09, 2008, 08:53:13 AM
Quote from: Krandall on December 09, 2008, 08:50:31 AM
Tell me this. How active is the mafia in Chicago.. And how many ties do they have? Seems they get their way w/ the people w/ power.
I don't want to embellish the fact but they are VERY active. They are connected to ALL political figures in Chicago and the state of Illinois. I will laugh at anyone who tells me that even Obama isn't connected to them. Its just how it's done in this state. My father was REQUIRED to use certain sub contractors on projects in order to get his permits signed off on.
Dodn't you think that would have been exploited during the election?
~Brian
Nope, because they have their hands in everyone. If "the other side" brings it out then it could turn around against them.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 09, 2008, 10:10:31 AM
Nope, because they have their hands in everyone. If "the other side" brings it out then it could turn around against them.
So you're saying there are high level Republicans involved too?
The governor looks like he's a Russian mobster.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 09, 2008, 10:12:08 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 09, 2008, 10:10:31 AM
Nope, because they have their hands in everyone. If "the other side" brings it out then it could turn around against them.
So you're saying there are high level Republicans involved too?
The governor looks like he's a Russian mobster.
~Brian
Maybe not the highest, but I wouldn't doubt it. But at the state level they are. Same with the house and senate. And high level republicans aren't about to let them roll. Our ex governor was a republican and where is he?......prison on corruption charges. We'll be two for two in this state.
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 09, 2008, 10:12:08 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 09, 2008, 10:10:31 AM
Nope, because they have their hands in everyone. If "the other side" brings it out then it could turn around against them.
So you're saying there are high level Republicans involved too?
The governor looks like he's a Russian mobster.
~Brian
Spasiva Commerish ;)
English please.
:lol:
~Brian
Wow, This dude F**ked himself. :lol:
I hadn't actually seen what he did. WOW Douche!
SAN FRANCISCO — Some same-sex marriage supporters are urging people to "call in gay" Wednesday to show how much the country relies on gays and lesbians, but others question whether it's wise to encourage skipping work given the nation's economic distress.
Organizers of "Day Without a Gay" — scheduled to coincide with International Human Rights Day and modeled after similar work stoppages by Latino immigrants — also are encouraging people to perform volunteer work and refrain from spending money.
Sean Hetherington, a West Hollywood comedian and personal trainer, dreamed up the idea with his boyfriend, Aaron Hartzler, after reading online that a few angry gay-rights activists were calling for a daylong strike to protest California voters' passage last month of Proposition 8, which reversed this year's state Supreme Court decision allowing gay marriage.
The couple thought it would be more effective and less divisive if people were asked to perform community service instead of staying home with their wallets shut. Dozens of nonprofit agencies, from the National Women's Law Center in Washington to a Methodist church in Fresno collecting food for the homeless, have posted opportunities for volunteers on the couple's Web site.
"We are all for a boycott if that is what brings about a sense of community for people," said Hetherington, 30, who plans to spend Wednesday volunteering at an inner-city school. "You can take away from the economy and give back in other ways."
Hetherington said he's been getting 100 e-mails an hour from people looking for volunteer opportunities, and that his "Day Without a Gay" Web site has gotten 100,000 hits since mid-November.
Despite Hartzler and Hetherington's attempt to fashion a positive approach, some organizers of the street demonstrations that drew massive crowds in many cities last month have been reluctant to embrace the concept, saying that it could be at best impractical and at worst counterproductive to "call in gay."
"It's extra-challenging for people to think about taking off work as a form of protest, given that we are talking about people who may not be out (as gay) at work, and given the current economic situation and job market," said Jules Graves, 38, coordinator of the Colorado Queer Straight Alliance. "There is really not any assurance employers would appreciate it for what it is."
Graves' group nonetheless is arranging for interested participants to volunteer at the local African Community Center in Denver. The agency said it could find projects to keep 20 people busy, but so far only 10 have pledged to show up, said Graves.
Scott Craig, a fifth-grade teacher at Independence Charter School in Philadelphia, had no problem requesting and being granted the day off. So many of the school's 60 teachers were eager to show support for gay rights they had to make sure enough stayed behind to staff classrooms.
About 25 teachers plan to take Wednesday off and to have their work covered by substitutes while they discuss ways to introduce gay issues to their students and volunteer at the local branch of the American Civil Liberties Union, Craig said. A letter telling parents why so many teachers would be out went home Monday.
"We want to get the conversation going in the community that gay is not bad," Craig said. "For kids to hear that in a positive light can be life-changing."
Join The Impact, the online community that launched protests last month over the passage of gay marriage bans in California, Florida and Arizona, has urged people to withdraw $80 from their bank accounts Wednesday to demonstrate gays' spending power, and to devote the time they might otherwise spend watching TV or surfing the Internet to volunteer work.
Witeck-Combs Communications, a public relations firm in Washington that specializes in the gay and lesbian market, published a study this year that estimated that gay and lesbian consumers spend $700 billion annually.
Bob Witeck, the firm's chief executive officer, said it would be difficult to measure the success of Wednesday's strike since gay employees occupy so many fields. And rather than suspending all consumer spending for the day, gay rights supporters would have a bigger impact if they devoted their dollars to gay-friendly businesses year-round, Witeck said.
"Our community leaders who are running book stores, newspapers, flower shops, coffee houses, bars and many, many other things are hurting right now, so paying attention to their needs during this hard time is an effective form of activism," he said.
Hetherington said he has been careful to design A Day Without a Gay — he came up with the name after the film "A Day Without a Mexican" and liked it because it rhymed — so no one feels excluded or threatened.
He has specifically urged high school students not to walk out of their classes and assured college students they won't be disloyal to the cause if they go ahead and take their final exams. He also has listed opportunities — ranging from writing letters to members of Congress about federal gay rights legislation to spreading the word about Wednesday on social networking sites — for gay marriage backers who cannot miss work.
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj42/alfhernandez77/BigGayAl.jpg)
"I'm super, thanks for asking!"
~Brian
I guess the peoples vote doesn't matter. :confused:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 09, 2008, 10:36:38 AM
I guess the peoples vote doesn't matter. :confused:
Whiney pole smokers.
~Brian
Yup. I hate that idea....."oh I didn't win, let me call my lawyer"
what bastards. f*ck em all.. not literally though....
Quote from: Krandall on December 09, 2008, 10:43:07 AM
what bastards. f*ck em all.. not literally though....
Don't worry, we knew what you meant. :fruity:
Tossed salad anyone?
:lol:
~Brian
yea blagojevichs a douche...its about time he went to jail...the past 2 governors of our state have ended up in jail.
Thats how we roll in this state.
Quote from: scurry57 on December 09, 2008, 10:58:19 AM
yea blagojevichs a douche...its about time he went to jail...the past 2 governors of our state have ended up in jail.
That's crazy. WTF? How do they win elections?
~Brian
dead people vote here.
Umm. yeah "call in Gay??"
Let us know how it goes Krandall.
Quote from: Peels660 on December 09, 2008, 11:11:03 AM
Umm. yeah "call in Gay??"
Let us know how it goes Krandall.
:rofl:
Peels 1
Krandall 0
~Brian
Update:
Fitzgerald: 'New low' in Illinois politics
December 9, 2008 at 12:08 PM
U.S. Atty. Patrick Fitzgerald said today that federal authorities arrested Democratic Gov. Rod Blagojevich this morning because the governor went on "a political corruption crime spree" that needed to be stopped.
Fitzgerald said secret tape recordings showed Blagojevich was attempting "to sell the U.S. Senate seat" that President-elect Barack Obama recently vacated. Fitzgerald said, "We make no allegations" that Obama was aware of any alleged scheming by Blagojevich.
The governor has the sole power to pick Obama's replacement under the state constitution.
"The conduct would make Lincoln roll over in his grave," Fitzgerald said, quoting Blagojevich as saying the Senate seat is "a bleeping valuable thing. You just don't give it away. ... I've got this thing and it's bleeping golden."
Blagojevich wasn't against the corrupt deal for the Senate seat, he was against "being stiffed in the corrupt deal," Fitzgerald said.
The remarks came at a news conference to discuss charges against Blagojevich and his chief of staff, John Harris. Blagojevich and Harris are scheduled to appear in court at 1:30 p.m. before U.S. Magistrate Judge Nan Nolan.
Robert Grant, FBI special agent in charge of the Chicago office, characterized Illinois' place in the pantheon of political corruption.
"If it isn't the most corrupt state in the United States, it's certainly one hell of a competitor," Grant said. "Even the most cynical agents in our office were shocked."
Grant said he called Blagojevich about 6 a.m. and told the governor two FBI agents were outside his door and that they had a warrant for his arrest.
After initially asking, "Is this a joke?" Grant said, Blagojevich was "very cooperative."
Grant said the arrest of Blagojevich should serve as notice that "business as usual will no longer be tolerated. That selling your office for personal gain is a thing of the past."
Fitzgerald said the investigation into Blagojevich continues, but authorities acted today to avoid further harm taking place.
"I was not going to wait until March or April or May to get it all nice and tidy" and bring charges, he said. "I think that would be irresponsible."
Fitzgerald thanked the Chicago Tribune, which had been reporting on the investigation, for honoring a rare request about eight weeks ago not to report on certain aspects of the investigation that he said could have been jeopardized.
Tribune Editor Gerould Kern said today that the newspaper delayed publishing some stories at the request of the U.S. attorney's office during the course of reporting on the accelerating investigation of Blagojevich.
"On occasion, prosecutors asked us to delay publication of stories, asserting that disclosure would jeopardize the criminal investigation," Kern said. "In isolated instances, we granted the requests, but other requests were refused."
In the criminal complaint, authorities allege that Blagojevich and Harris sought to pressure the Tribune to fire editorial writers who were critical of his administration. Tribune Co. had been negotiating with the Illinois Finance Authority to purchase Wrigley Field as part of the company's efforts to sell the Cubs baseball team.
Kern said today he never experienced any pressure over the Tribune editorials.
"There was never an instance where I was contacted or called, where any influence at all was placed against me. There were no instances of that."
Kern said he became editor July 18 and since then there's "never been any hint of that. I was as surprised as everyone else when I saw that."
Kern said nobody from the Blagojevich administration ever contacted him about the editorials.
"I never got a complaint. I never got any contact whatsoever from Blagojevich, no complaint--nothing from inside Tribune Co."
Kern pointed out there were no staff reductions in the editorial board. "The facts are what they are."
Bleeping = f*cking.
:lol:
What a dumb ass. I can't believe that shit!
~Brian
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081210/ap_on_go_co/congress_autos
WASHINGTON – Majority Democrats and the Bush White House have finalized a deal to spend $15 billion on emergency loans for struggling U.S. automakers, congressional officials said Wednesday. Among some Republican lawmakers, stiff opposition lingered.
The White House did not go as far as to say the deal was final, although it did report "very good progress." The measure could see a House vote later Wednesday and be enacted by week's end.
It would create a government "car czar" to dole out the loans, with the power to force the carmakers into bankruptcy if they didn't cut quick deals with labor unions, creditors and others to restructure their businesses and become viable.
Congressional Republicans, left out of negotiations on the package, are expressing grave reservations and may seek to block it.
Sen. David Vitter, R-La., promised to filibuster the measure, which could delay a final vote for days.
He said the package has an "ass-backwards" approach to curing what ails the U.S. auto industry.
Nevertheless, Democratic leaders were confident enough that a bill could advance that they set a procedural vote for the House floor later Wednesday. Even still, Sen. Mitch McConnell, the GOP leader, said in late morning that his side hadn't seen the measure yet and wouldn't agree to votes on the measure Wednesday.
"Republicans will not allow taxpayers to subsidize failure," McConnell said, although he added that the auto situation would be addressed by the end of the week.
The congressional officials revealed agreement on a bill only on grounds of anonymity because the deal has not been formally announced.
At the White House, Deputy Chief of Staff Joel Kaplan said the administration and Congress have made "very good progress on a conceptual agreement."
"We'll be talking retail to individual senators to win their support," said Kaplan, who said he expected President George W. Bush to lobby Republicans to vote for the package.
Kaplan said it was critical that the legislation have a clear definition of what is long-term viability for the companies.
A breakthrough came when Democrats agreed to scrap language — which the White House had called a poison pill — that would have forced the carmakers to drop lawsuits challenging tough emissions limits in California and other states, said congressional aides.
Environmentalists already were livid that the measure draws the emergency loans from an existing loan program to help carmakers retool their factories to make greener cars.
Kaplan also said the president was dispatching Chief of Staff Josh Bolten to Capitol Hill to make the case for the legislation with skeptical Republicans.
Kaplan said the Bush administration would work with President-elect Barack Obama's team on choosing the so-called "car czar," acknowledging that Bush's tenure ends in 41 days and the automakers' woes will continue well into 2009.
"We expect to work closely with the president-elect's team on what is the most effective means of implementing this legislation," Kaplan said.
Asked about the role of the "car czar," Kaplan said: "This is not somebody who's going to run the companies. This is someone who is going to bring them around the table, knock heads."
"This is a bridge to either fundamental restructuring or bankruptcy," he added. "They either have a long-term plan that's viable or we get our money back. And if we call our money back, which is required under this bill, then those firms are not going to be able to survive."
QuoteSen. David Vitter, R-La., promised to filibuster the measure, which could delay a final vote for days.
Coon-ass Louisiana Republican douchebag.
Stop f*cking around and loan them the money. Stop trying to get your name on the news. Lend them a hand. I'll be the "Car Czar" and dish funds for free.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 10, 2008, 10:05:03 AM
QuoteSen. David Vitter, R-La., promised to filibuster the measure, which could delay a final vote for days.
Coon-ass Louisiana Republican douchebag.
Stop f*cking around and loan them the money. Stop trying to get your name on the news. Lend them a hand. I'll be the "Car Czar" and dish funds for free.
~Brian
I agree with the sentiment, and I'll second that nomination. :thumbs:
Reading stuff like that just makes me angry.
The faster it's off the news, the better.
~Brian
Damn that is some BS, just to get your name in the paper and sound like you have a pair. :mad:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081210/pl_politico/27055_1
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 10, 2008, 10:50:32 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081210/pl_politico/27055_1
Get the f*ck outta here!
That would be the only way that ass clown would get a seat in the Senate.
~Brian
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Flynbyu1973/Funny%20pics/Shitty.jpg)
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 10, 2008, 03:51:03 PM
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Flynbyu1973/Funny%20pics/Shitty.jpg)
~Brian
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!11 Spit-take for sure!!!!! :rofl: Horrible...but funny!
Sorry, that was pretty bad.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 11, 2008, 08:39:58 AM
Sorry, that was pretty bad.
:lol:
~Brian
I was shocked that you posted that, taking your position on the matter into account. Hilarious you can find humour in it. I did. :lol:
There is some truth in the matter.....The Big Three built cookie cutter cars with sub par quality. The Big Three didn't listen to consumer needs, and consumers bought other brands.
~Brian
I agree. I feel guilty for my stance on the subject for the last few years. But, "the proof is in the pudding." I always catch hell for being a nissan driver. My views came about from my days at dealerships. Direct observation of big 3 quality gap. People here say just buy american, and Japanese eople aren't paid as much....etc. Doesn't matter. A. Most built here. B. Same or better quality.
Had th gap not been so bad, I might have thought different.
My 98 nissan has 110k with no more than front brakes and a battery in ten years from new.
And.. I only change my oil twice a year or 8000 miles.
Brother 05' S10 with 33k. Won't start in the cold, heater doesn't work already. :confused:
I feel bad..but I am just sayin.
Big trucks, I feel a bit differently. I am still considering a full size eventually from possible big 3.
Nissan made a deal with Dodge to build trucks for them, but I don't know if it's on hold since Chrysler is in trouble.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 11, 2008, 09:56:48 AM
Nissan made a deal with Dodge to build trucks for them, but I don't know if it's on hold since Chrysler is in trouble.
~Brian
good question. I think that deal was made so Nissan can get their hands on the diesel engines, not build all the trucks. Just heavy duty chassis. Too much development cost to design a whole new platform. ???
As of April 2008:
Nissan VP of communications, Frederique Le Greves, has provided a few more bits of news to PickupTruck.com about Nissan's next generation light duty pickup.
No decisions have been made yet about changing the truck's name. Internally it is being referred to as the, "next-generation Titan," says Ms. Le Greves.
Nissan is still planning to build the Armada full size SUV after 2011 at its Canton, MS plant, where it's built alongside the Nissan Titan today.
"The next generation Armada is not coming before a few years. But Armada production will continue in Canton alongside the [future] light commercial vehicles," says Ms. Le Greves.
Ms. Le Greves notes Titan production will end at Canton in December 2010 and will start at Chrysler's plant in Saltillo, Mexico in January 2011.
It's Nissan's intent to offer multiple engine choices in the new truck. Some motors may be sourced from Chrysler and shared with the Dodge Ram.
"The fact that we are partnering with Chrysler on Titan will help us to offer a bigger range of engine choices to our customers, but we have not decided yet which engines we will take from Chrysler," says Ms. Le Greves.
Nissan only offers a 5.6-Liter V8 engine in the Titan today.
Nissan would also like access to Chrysler's new two mode hybrid powertrain that will be available in the Dodge Ram starting in 2010.
"We hope that we can look at that (as part of Chrysler's engine offerings), says Ms. Le Greves.
The two-mode hybrid system was developed through a four-way partnership among BMW, Chrysler, Daimler, and General Motors. It will also be available in GM's full size pickups starting in the fourth quarter of 2008.
[For additional information about the Chrysler-Nissan tie-up, check out Autoblog and Jalopnik.]
Update #4: 04-15-08 05:07 PT
Mississippi's Star Clarion Ledger offers further insight into what Nissan is thinking about its new manufacturing partnership with Chrysler.
Dominique Thomann, Nissan North America senior vice president for administration and finance, says although it's likely the half-ton will be based on a Dodge frame, Nissan will design the pickup. Some styling, performance and other key Titan elements will be retained, though Mr. Thomann said he didn't know if the name would be kept.
Update #3: 04-14-08 17:19 PT
No word from either Chrysler or Nissan whether the new Nissan truck will share the same coil-spring rear suspension that will debut in the 2009 Dodge Ram 1500.
Update #2: 04-14-08 15:45 PT
Chrysler LLC President Tom LaSorda says powertrain options for the new truck will be discussed at a later date. Nissan will take the lead on an announcement at that time.
Update #1: 04-14-08 15:03 PT
A Nissan conference call has just concluded. Nissan execs say the new truck will be a replacement for the current Titan half-ton pickup.
Just in that Chrysler will build a full size light duty truck for Nissan by 2011. The pickup will have a "unique Nissan design". Word of such an alliance first came to light in December 2007.
The joint press release says the new truck will be built in Mexico at Chrysler's Saltillo plant, where Dodge currently builds its three-quarter and one-ton pickups and commercial chassis cabs.
Chrysler will move some portion of its HD Ram production to its St Louis and Warren, Michigan truck assembly plants to make way for the new Nissan pickup.
Saltillo's current product mix is:
Dodge Ram 2500/3500 Quad Cab and Regular Cab, Dodge Ram Mega Cab, Dodge Ram 3500 Chassis Cab, DX Chassis Cab (Mexico Market), Dodge Ram 2500/3500 Box-off, Dodge Ram 4500/5500 Chassis Cab, Sterling Bullet Class 4/5 Chassis Cab (for Sterling Truck, a subsidiary of Freightliner).
St. Louis North's current product mix is:
Dodge Ram Standard and Quad Cab Pickup (Models 1500, 2500 Light and Heavy Duty).
Warren, Michigan's current product mix is:
Dodge Ram 1500 Standard Cab and Quad Cab SLT/Laramie/Laramie Sport and Dodge Dakota Standard, Club and Quad Cab pickups, Mitsubishi Raider Standard, Club and Quad Cab pickups.
Last week Nissan announced it would start producing three new commercial vehicles for the US market. To do this, Nissan said it would cut production of the Nissan Quest minivan and Infiniti QX56 full size SUV at its Canton, Mississippi plant, where the current Nissan Titan is built.
By the end of 2008, the Nissan Titan will be the oldest full size truck in the segment, with all other models having undergone major revisions or received all new designs. A new Titan was expected for the 2010 model year.
It's ironic how this new deal leverages production economies of scale, similar to Nissan's agreement with Suzuki to produce the upcoming Equator midsize pickup.
Press Release Below:
AUBURN HILLS, Mich / TOKYO (April 14, 2008) – Chrysler LLC and Nissan Motor Co., Ltd., today announced two new agreements for the supply of products between both companies. In January, Nissan agreed to supply Chrysler with a new car based on the Nissan Versa sedan for limited distribution in South America on an Original Equipment Manufacture (OEM) basis in 2009.
This new OEM exchange benefits both companies through range extension and the utilization of global manufacturing capacity. Highlights of the new agreement:
Nissan will manufacture an all-new, fuel-efficient small car based on a unique Chrysler concept and design. This new segment entry for Chrysler will be sold in North America, Europe and other global markets in 2010, and manufactured at Nissan's Oppama Plant in Japan.
Chrysler will manufacture a full-size pickup for Nissan. Based on a Nissan unique design, this truck will be manufactured at Chrysler's Saltillo (Mexico) Assembly Plant. In order to accommodate this product, Chrysler will shift volume from Mexico to its U.S.-based assembly plants that produce pickup trucks. Sales of the pickup in North America will start in 2011.
This latest OEM supply agreement extends a long standing product exchange relationship between the two corporations, with Nissan affiliate JATCO already supplying Chrysler with transmissions since 2004.
"Forging the right tactical partnerships is critical to the long-term success of Chrysler," said Tom LaSorda, Chrysler LLC President and Vice Chairman. "It also builds on the Company's inherent strengths, including the ability to respond rapidly and creatively to emerging opportunities."
"In January, we said we would continue to look for additional OEM opportunities with Chrysler," said Carlos Tavares, Executive Vice President, Nissan Motor Company. "This latest agreement builds on Nissan's proven track record to deliver win-win product exchanges with multiple manufacturers around the world," continued Tavares.
Since the signing of the first OEM agreement in January, the two companies have also agreed to maintain an open dialogue to explore further product-sharing opportunities.
~Brian
Even the "foreign companies are going "foreign" :lol: :confused:
"Ms. Le Greves notes Titan production will end at Canton in December 2010 and will start at Chrysler's plant in Saltillo, Mexico in January 2011."
good read, thanks.
Nissan had a lot of issues with the Titan when it first came out.
Brakes, cooling system, and electronics.
My neighbor had one declared a Lemon by Nissan under Arkasnas Lemon Law.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 11, 2008, 10:16:51 AM
Nissan had a lot of issues with the Titan when it first came out.
Brakes, cooling system, and electronics.
My neighbor had one declared a Lemon by Nissan under Arkasnas Lemon Law.
~Brian
I heard that before. But, mine is nearly the same design they have been cranking out since mid 86.
If it ain't broke don't fix it...:lol:
My neighbor had his stereo replaced, the bedliner reshot, rotors turned every oil change, and the radiator replace three times. It was in the shop for a month the last time before it was declared a lemon.
~Brian
I have a 96 Camaro with 160,000 miles and all i have done to it is Batery, alt. ( because i have a sound system) changed fluids, and a whole lot of Tires.
but i always figured mine was the odd ball out, i got a dependable one. :clap:
Typically, the Camaro has been a good car. Especially the car you own.
A friend of mine has had to replace the heater core and the transmission in his '94 Z28 once. He drives it like he stole it though.
~Brian
Camaro...another case of if it ain't broke don't fix it...but they eventually tried to "fix" it and failed. SHould have stayed a cheap entry level muscle sports car. But they took it upmarket. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 11, 2008, 10:36:49 AM
My neighbor had his stereo replaced, the bedliner reshot, rotors turned every oil change, and the radiator replace three times. It was in the shop for a month the last time before it was declared a lemon.
~Brian
WOW
We'll see how the new model is.
Bryan can you get me any type of discount for a pre order, or when it's out next year?
Quote from: maguilar496 on December 11, 2008, 10:56:31 AM
We'll see how the new model is.
Bryan can you get me any type of discount for a pre order, or when it's out next year?
We are only getting 5 Camaros for 2009. We've pre-sold all of our orders for $5000 over sticker, and all of them are V8's.
Sorry!
That car is going to be impossible to get for most people, or at least until the new wears off. I'll be excited to see a 300 hp V6!
~Brian
so what you saying is go into the dealer with 5K over sticker to get one.
how many have you pre-sold is it only the 5 you're talking about?
(about that missing kid from Florida)
Sheriff: Anthony home may be a crime scene
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/11/child.remains.found/index.html
ORLANDO, Florida (CNN) -- Authorities cordoned off the home of missing toddler Caylee Anthony's grandparents on Thursday, hours after the remains of a small child were found nearby.
Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary (left) surveys the scene where the remains of a small child were found.
1 of 3 The sheriff's office in Orange County, Florida, said it is seeking a warrant to search the home of George and Cindy Anthony.
Sheriff Kevin Beary said the home has been secured "pending more investigation." The house has the "possibility of being more of a crime scene later," he added.
A child's skull was found at about 9:30 a.m. by a utility meter reader who alerted authorities, sheriff's spokesman Jim Solomons said. Investigators, including those from the Anthony case, rushed to the scene, he added. Watch investigators swarm the scene »
CNN affiliate WFTV reported that the meter reader picked up a plastic bag at the site and a skull fell out. The remains have been removed by the medical examiner and will be sent to the FBI lab at Quantico, Virginia, Sheriff Beary said.
The agency has told its lab analysts that the case is top priority, Beary added. "If they have to work through the weekend, they'll work through the weekend."
"Bottom line, it's real simple, folks," Beary said. "We've recovered this human skull, it appears to be that of a small child, and now the investigation continues. We've got a lot of lab work to do, a lot of DNA work to do, a lot of crime scene work to do. We could be here all night." Watch the sheriff talk about what needs to be done »
Prosecutors have asked police not to disclose many details surrounding the discovery, Beary said.
Nancy Grace
Child's body found; is it Caylee's?
8 and 10 p.m., Headline News
see full schedule »
Caylee Anthony, 3, has been missing since June in a case that has received national attention. Casey Anthony, the child's 22-year-old mother, was charged last month with murder and other offenses. She is being held at the Orange County Jail.
The area where the remains were found had been searched as part of the investigation into Caylee's disappearance, he said. But the precise spot where a county meter reader found them -- "45, 50, 60 feet back" from the street -- was flooded at the time of the search.
No clothes were found with the remains, Beary said.
Asked whether the remains could belong to another child, Beary said, "Not that we know of, but that's always a possibility, and that's why we've got a lot of work to do on this case still."
Earlier, authorities said the Anthony family had been notified of the discovery. The remains were found "in very close proximity" to the Anthony home, Solomons said. View a map of where the remains were found »
An attorney for Casey Anthony filed legal papers Thursday afternoon seeking a court order to preserve all evidence collected, and to permit the defense to conduct its own forensic testing. A hearing has been scheduled for Friday morning.
In a court hearing earlier Thursday, 9th Circuit Judge Stan Strickland postponed Casey Anthony's trial at the request of defense attorney Jose Baez. The attorney said he had not received all the evidence due him from prosecutors and was not ready to proceed with the January 5 trial.
Baez asked Strickland whether the trial could be delayed until March. The judge scheduled a hearing January 15 to consider a new trial date as well as a possible change of venue.
Don't Miss
WESH: Remains found in sealed plastic bag
WFTV: See where the remains were found
CF13: Minute-to-minute update
Prosecutors said this month that they would not seek the death penalty against Casey Anthony. If convicted of murder, she could be sentenced to life in prison.
Authorities have said Casey Anthony waited about a month before telling her family that Caylee was gone. Cindy Anthony -- Caylee's grandmother and Casey Anthony's mother -- called the Orange County sheriff's office July 15, saying her daughter would not tell her where Caylee was.
When questioned, Casey Anthony gave conflicting statements to police, including some that were later disproved, according to hundreds of documents and investigative reports released in the case.
She claimed that she dropped Caylee off with a baby-sitter, but when police checked out her story, they learned that the address Casey Anthony supplied belonged to an apartment that had been vacant for weeks. The woman Casey Anthony named as her baby-sitter told police she did not know her.
Investigators have said that cadaver dogs picked up the scent of death in Anthony's car, as well as in her parents' backyard. They also said air quality tests conducted by the FBI found evidence consistent with human decomposition and chloroform in the car's trunk. A neighbor told police Anthony had asked to borrow a shovel.
Also, an analysis of Anthony's computer found that she had visited Web sites discussing chloroform and had done Internet searches on missing children, according to information released in the case.
"There isn't a motive, and they haven't found a motive," Cindy Anthony said Wednesday night on CNN's "Larry King Live." Watch Cindy Anthony insist her daughter is innocent »
She added, "They told us they thought it was an accident, and she's scared and tried to cover it up. They don't feel there's a motive."
Cindy Anthony stressed that five searches for the girl's body have "come up with nothing. There's nothing that they have found that, you know, has given them any evidence that Caylee is no longer with us."
The Anthonys said they believe that the girl is still alive and that someone has her, noting several reports of sightings.
Last month, Strickland denied prosecutors' request to impose a gag order in Anthony's case, saying he could not state that continued publicity would pose a threat to her trial or even that a gag order would stem the flood of media attention.
I hope that if it's Caylee, they nail her mother. That bitch doesn't deserve to be able to reproduce. She reported the poor child missing after a month. Real peice of work.
~Brian
The baby on the cover of Nirvana's album Nevermind is all grown up now!
http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/11/nirvana.baby/index.html
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 11, 2008, 03:46:21 PM
I hope that if it's Caylee, they nail her mother. That bitch doesn't deserve to be able to reproduce. She reported the poor child missing after a month. Real peice of work.
~Brian
I have trouble even reading about her. My blood starts to boil and everything goes blank. How could anyone do that to their own child. I would take a painful death to save my child.
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 11, 2008, 03:59:16 PM
The baby on the cover of Nirvana's album Nevermind is all grown up now!
http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/11/nirvana.baby/index.html
~Brian
That's awesome. lol, he's deffinatley an unknown icon.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 12, 2008, 06:46:47 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 11, 2008, 03:46:21 PM
I hope that if it's Caylee, they nail her mother. That bitch doesn't deserve to be able to reproduce. She reported the poor child missing after a month. Real peice of work.
~Brian
I have trouble even reading about her. My blood starts to boil and everything goes blank. How could anyone do that to their own child. I would take a painful death to save my child.
A statement was released that something "Significant" was found in the home last night.
~Brian
Just give me 5 minutes with her, I would rip her f*cking lungs out.
shit. dont know if you guys have seen this yet
http://www.leftlanenews.com/detroit-three-bailout-senate-vote.html
Heard that last night. Stock Market fell huge this morning w/ all the pending sales slips ..
wall street isn't down too bad, a normal down day. But President Bush is looking into tapping into the bail out fund to help the big 3.
The Treasury Department said Friday that it would step in and lend funds to the Big 3 auto-makers until Congress has time to consider a long-term rescue package next year. Talks on a rescue package broke down in the Senate late on Thursday night, making action on a bailout impossible until next year. "Because Congress failed to act, we will stand ready to prevent an imminent failure until Congress reconvenes and acts to address the long-term viability of the industry," Treasury spokeswoman Brooklyn McLaughlin said in a statement. Funds for the auto companies are likely to come from the Trouble Asset Relief plan. The decision to use TARP funds is a shift in the previous White House position that the $700 billion dollars should be limited to stabilizing the financial sector.
~Brian
The gloves are off.....
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=961092808
It's all politics now.
Corker made a deal with the UAW, but several of the GOP bailed.
~Brian
still listening, but..... :rofl: He says "WaRshington"
Quote from: Krandall on December 12, 2008, 09:28:52 AM
still listening, but..... :rofl: He says "WaRshington"
He may be from the south!
:lol:
I don't say it like that though.
:thumbs:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 12, 2008, 09:30:15 AM
Quote from: Krandall on December 12, 2008, 09:28:52 AM
still listening, but..... :rofl: He says "WaRshington"
He may be from the south!
:lol:
I don't say it like that though.
:thumbs:
~Brian
:rolleyes: Yous don't talks funnies at all, Ba-rian :lol:
There are some people here that speak really terrible. Straight out of the trailer rednecks.
~Brian
there a guy I know who sets tires under his trailer so it appears to be mobile (Axles are gone) so he doesn't have to pay property taxes :lol:
Quote from: Colorado700R on December 12, 2008, 10:09:57 AM
there a guy I know who sets tires under his trailer so it appears to be mobile (Axles are gone) so he doesn't have to pay property taxes :lol:
:rofl:
that's AWESOME! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The funeral I went to was out in BFE, and I drove by a ton of mobile homes.....one was being bricked.
No shit.
~Brian
Quote from: Colorado700R on December 12, 2008, 10:09:57 AM
there a guy I know who sets tires under his trailer so it appears to be mobile (Axles are gone) so he doesn't have to pay property taxes :lol:
That made my day! :rofl:
I like when the people around insulate with straw bales around the trailer skirting for winter...then leave it til it rots.. :lol:
I've got nothin against people who live in trailer houses. Only because that's where my parents started out. But they were always about keeping everything maintained. It's the trashy people that give the rest of the people a bad name. :lol:
Kind of like the sheep f*ckers. It's people like socal that completely tear them apart that give the rest of thems a bad name
Quote from: Krandall on December 12, 2008, 10:40:16 AM
I've got nothin against people who live in trailer houses. Only because that's where my parents started out. But they were always about keeping everything maintained. It's the trashy people that give the rest of the people a bad name. :lol:
Kind of like the sheep f*ckers. It's people like socal that completely tear them apart that give the rest of thems a bad name
WOrd.....tainting the good sheepf**kers name! :lol: :lol:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081216/ap_on_re_us/adam_walsh
Fla. police close books on '81 Walsh killing
Closure in 27-Year-Old Cold Case ABC News HOLLYWOOD, Fla. – A serial killer who died more than a decade ago is the person who decapitated the 6-year-old son of "America's Most Wanted" host John Walsh in 1981, police in Florida said Tuesday. The announcement brought to a close a case that has vexed the Walsh family for more than two decades, launched the television show about the nation's most notorious criminals and inspired changes in how authorities search for missing children.
"Who could take a 6-year-old and murder and decapitate him? Who?" an emotional John Walsh said at Tuesday's news conference. "We needed to know. We needed to know. And today we know. The not knowing has been a torture, but that journey's over."
Walsh's wife, Reve, at one point placed a small photo of their son on the podium.
Police named Ottis Toole, saying he was long the prime suspect in the case and that they had conclusively linked him to the killing. They declined to be specific about their evidence and did not note any DNA proof of the crime, but said an extensive review of the case file pointed only to Toole, as John Walsh long contended.
"Our agency has devoted an inordinate amount of time seeking leads to other potential perpetrators rather than emphasizing Ottis Toole as our primary suspect," said Hollywood Police Chief Chadwick Wagner, who launched a fresh review of the case after taking over the department last year. "Ottis Toole has continued to be our only real suspect."
Toole had twice confessed to killing the child, but later recanted. He claimed responsibility for hundreds of murders, but police determined most of the confessions were lies. Toole's niece told the boy's father, John Walsh, her uncle confessed on his deathbed in prison that he killed Adam.
Wagner acknowledged numerous missteps in the investigation and apologized to the Walshes.
"I have no doubt," John Walsh said. "I've never had any doubt."
Many names have been mentioned in connection to the case in the years since the killing, including serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer, but Toole's has persistently nagged detectives. John Walsh has long said he believed the drifter was responsible, saying investigators found at Toole's home in Jacksonville a pair of green shorts and a sandal similar to what Adam was wearing.
Toole died in prison of cirrhosis in 1996 at the age of 49. He was serving five life sentences for murders unrelated to Adam's death.
The Walshes, who appeared Tuesday flanked by their other children, long ago derided the investigation as botched. Still, John Walsh praised the Hollywood police department for closing the case.
"This is not to look back and point fingers, but it is to let it rest," he said.
Adam Walsh went missing from a Hollywood mall on July 27, 1981. Fishermen discovered his severed head in a canal 120 miles away two weeks later. The rest of his body was never found.
Authorities made a series of crucial errors, losing the bloodstained carpeting in Toole's car — preventing DNA testing — and the car itself. It was a week after the boy's disappearance before the FBI got involved.
"So many mistakes were made," John Walsh said in 1997, upon the release of his book "Tears of Rage," which harshly criticized the Hollywood Police Department's work on the case. "It was shocking, inexcusable and heartbreaking."
For all that went wrong in the probe, the case contributed to massive advances in police searches for missing youngsters and a notable shift in the view parents and children hold of the world.
Adam's death, and his father's activism on his behalf, helped put faces on milk cartons, shopping bags and mailbox flyers, started fingerprinting programs and increased security at schools and stores. It spurred the creation of missing persons units at every large police department.
"In 1981, when a child disappeared, you couldn't enter information about a child into the FBI database. You could enter information about stolen cars, stolen guns but not stolen children," said Ernie Allen, president of the Center for Missing and Exploited Children, co-founded by John Walsh. "Those things have all changed."
The case also prompted national legislation to create a national database and toll-free line devoted to missing children, and led to the start of "America's Most Wanted," which brought those cases into millions of homes.
What it also did, said Mount Holyoke College sociologist and criminologist Richard Moran, is make children and adults alike exponentially more afraid.
"He ended up really producing a generation of cautious and afraid kids who view all adults and strangers as a threat to them and it made parents extremely paranoid about the safety of their children," Moran said.
I saw that.
Terrible.
Too bad it took them that long to finally get closure. I remember that happeneing when I was little. My mom was terrified for a long time. I couldn't play outside.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 16, 2008, 04:43:35 PM
I saw that.
Terrible.
Too bad it took them that long to finally get closure. I remember that happeneing when I was little. My mom was terrified for a long time. I couldn't play outside.
~Brian
I can remember hearing about it still even when I was in elementary school crazy. Glad they got it figured out though
Obama named John Salazar from CO to head the department of the interior.......
Kiss your public riding areas good bye gents, he's a super douche....
Your welcome :mad:
Only a few of our national parks are rideable to begin with. There are a lot of good open national forests though, but here in the midwest they're getting clearcut already so unless there are good trees to be harvested in the riding area I don't expect they'll close those either.
Quote from: Mad Dog on December 17, 2008, 11:12:55 AM
Only a few of our national parks are rideable to begin with. There are a lot of good open national forests though, but here in the midwest they're getting clearcut already so unless there are good trees to be harvested in the riding area I don't expect they'll close those either.
ummm, you best check the amount of trails going through national forests MD. He could majorly impact that.
Quote from: Colorado700R on December 17, 2008, 11:16:13 AM
Quote from: Mad Dog on December 17, 2008, 11:12:55 AM
Only a few of our national parks are rideable to begin with. There are a lot of good open national forests though, but here in the midwest they're getting clearcut already so unless there are good trees to be harvested in the riding area I don't expect they'll close those either.
ummm, you best check the amount of trails going through national forests MD. He could majorly impact that.
...like I said...
lots of trails through forests but they're using the forests for clearcutting. more likely to close land for more clearcutting than for enviro hippies.
Quote from: Mad Dog on December 17, 2008, 11:19:09 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on December 17, 2008, 11:16:13 AM
Quote from: Mad Dog on December 17, 2008, 11:12:55 AM
Only a few of our national parks are rideable to begin with. There are a lot of good open national forests though, but here in the midwest they're getting clearcut already so unless there are good trees to be harvested in the riding area I don't expect they'll close those either.
ummm, you best check the amount of trails going through national forests MD. He could majorly impact that.
...like I said...
lots of trails through forests but they're using the forests for clearcutting. more likely to close land for more clearcutting than for enviro hippies.
Guess we'll see, but this guy has a record of going overboard on some issues, hopefully he doesn't just side with those "Thrillsport" Nazis growing in popularity around boulder and denver
You may not have to worry about places to ride......we might have to sell our quads to just pay the bills thanks to the current administrations lack of know how on fixing the economy.
~Brian
Quote from: Colorado700R on December 17, 2008, 11:10:21 AM
Obama named John Salazar from CO to head the department of the interior.......
Kiss your public riding areas good bye gents, he's a super douche....
Your welcome :mad:
thanks ;) Is he from Boulder, by chance? :lol:
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 17, 2008, 11:24:52 AM
You may not have to worry about places to ride......we might have to sell our quads to just pay the bills thanks to the current administrations lack of know how on fixing the economy.
~Brian
Broken record, give it a rest.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 17, 2008, 11:39:09 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 17, 2008, 11:24:52 AM
You may not have to worry about places to ride......we might have to sell our quads to just pay the bills thanks to the current administrations lack of know how on fixing the economy.
~Brian
Broken record, give it a rest.
We are all broken records. :lol:
Quote from: Peels660 on December 17, 2008, 11:44:13 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 17, 2008, 11:39:09 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 17, 2008, 11:24:52 AM
You may not have to worry about places to ride......we might have to sell our quads to just pay the bills thanks to the current administrations lack of know how on fixing the economy.
~Brian
Broken record, give it a rest.
We are all broken records. :lol:
Yup, we each have our thing that we go on and on about.
Hey Eric, ready to move to cali yet?
:lol:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 17, 2008, 11:52:56 AM
Quote from: Peels660 on December 17, 2008, 11:44:13 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 17, 2008, 11:39:09 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 17, 2008, 11:24:52 AM
You may not have to worry about places to ride......we might have to sell our quads to just pay the bills thanks to the current administrations lack of know how on fixing the economy.
~Brian
Broken record, give it a rest.
We are all broken records. :lol:
Yup, we each have our thing that we go on and on about.
Hey Eric, ready to move to cali yet?
:lol:
Can't say we aren't consistent! :grin_nod:
Psh.. Close my riding areas down. F*ck if I care. I hit a state trail for the first time this summer... 8)
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 17, 2008, 11:39:09 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 17, 2008, 11:24:52 AM
You may not have to worry about places to ride......we might have to sell our quads to just pay the bills thanks to the current administrations lack of know how on fixing the economy.
~Brian
Broken record, give it a rest.
Just calling a spade a spade.
I'd hate to nominate someone...Someone will always find something negative.
Doom and gloom.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 17, 2008, 11:24:52 AM
You may not have to worry about places to ride......we might have to sell our quads to just pay the bills thanks to the current administrations lack of know how on fixing the economy.
~Brian
FOR THE LAST TIME, YOUR BELOVED DEMOCRATS ARE JUST AS GUILTY OF FUCKING THE ECONOMY AS THE REPUBLICANS.
It took two to FERK it up, and two to fix it.
Well said. A bit loudly, but good point. :lol: Don't think he said any thing about Party. Just current administration. :thumbs:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081217/bs_nm/us_chrysler_shutdown
DETROIT (Reuters) – Citing a credit crisis and dwindling sales, Chrysler LLC on Wednesday said it would shut down all of its manufacturing operations from the end of this week for at least a month.
The blanket shutdown marked a deepening of the financial crisis for the embattled U.S. auto industry and came as Chrysler and its larger rival General Motors Corp both seek to shore up cash as they seek a federal bailout they say they need to survive.
Chrysler, considered the weakest of the Detroit automakers, made the announcement on its plant shutdown in a letter sent on Wednesday to its employees, suppliers and the United Auto Workers union that was also posted on its website.
Chrysler said its dealers were getting car shoppers into showrooms but losing between 20 percent and 25 percent of those potential sales because of the lack of consumer financing for new car purchases.
"As a result of the financial crisis, the automotive market remains depressed due to the continued lack of consumer credit for potential buyers," the automaker said in a statement.
Separately, Chrysler said its finance arm could be forced to stop making loans dealers use to finance inventory because the dealers have been pulling money out from a fund that helps finance the floorplan loans.
The shutdown by Chrysler will idle plants in the United States, Canada and Mexico producing vehicles for its Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge brands.
The more than 30,000 Chrysler workers in the United States represented by the UAW receive nearly full benefits and wages during plant shutdowns, but labor costs represent only about 10 percent of the total cost of the average vehicle.
By idling plants, Chrysler and other automakers can cut costs on inventory, components and related charges such as utilities for operating large production facilities.
The moves also keep finished vehicle inventories from piling up on dealer lots and increasing the pressure for even greater discounting to consumers.
GM said last week that it was cutting its first-quarter production schedule by 60 percent compared with the same period a year earlier.
Privately held Chrysler is 80-percent owned by private equity firm Cerberus Capital Management.
Chrysler's sales plunged 47 percent in November and were down almost 28 percent for the first eleven months of 2008.
wow Krandall :(
QuoteThe more than 30,000 Chrysler workers in the United States represented by the UAW receive nearly full benefits and wages during plant shutdowns, but labor costs represent only about 10 percent of the total cost of the average vehicle.
I think there is something wrong when they don't have to work and can still get nearly full benefits and wages.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on December 18, 2008, 07:03:49 AM
QuoteThe more than 30,000 Chrysler workers in the United States represented by the UAW receive nearly full benefits and wages during plant shutdowns, but labor costs represent only about 10 percent of the total cost of the average vehicle.
I think there is something wrong when they don't have to work and can still get nearly full benefits and wages.
They should recieve unemployment benefits like so many others. Chrysler, Ford, and GM all shut plants down in the summerfor two weeks and then starts the new models, and in the winter for the holidays. This shutdown is an extended shutdown, just a couple of weeks longer than the norm.
~Brian
I know my roomie doesn't get full benefits when he's on unemployment nor is it near full wages. I think he gets about 1/2 of what he normally made.
I think the maximum unemployment benefit is like $400 a week here if you request them not to take taxes out.
~Brian
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — A pediatric neurosurgeon says a tumor he removed from the brain of a Colorado Springs infant contained a tiny foot and other partially formed body parts.
Dr. Paul Grabb says he operated on Sam Esquibel at Memorial Hospital for Children after an MRI showed a microscopic tumor on the newborn's brain. Sam was 3 days old and otherwise healthy.
Grabb says that while removing the growth, he discovered it contained a nearly perfect foot and the formation of another foot, a hand and a thigh.
"It looked like the breach delivery of a baby, coming out of the brain," Grabb said. "To find a perfectly formed structure (like this) is extremely unique, unusual, borderline unheard of."
Grabb isn't sure what caused the growth but says it may have been a type of congenital brain tumor. However, such tumors usually are less complex than a foot or hand, he said.
The growth may also have been a case of "fetus in fetu" — in which a fetal twin begins to form within another — but such cases very rarely occur in the brain, Grabb said.
Sam's parents, Tiffnie and Manuel Esquibel, say their son is at home now but faces monthly blood tests to check for signs of cancer or regrowth, along with physical therapy to improve the use of his neck. But they say he has mostly recovered from the Oct. 3 surgery.
"You'd never know if he didn't have a scar there," Tiffnie Esquibel said.
Story via Foxnews.com
~Brian
Eeeeeew. THanks for that. :lol:
wow thats amazing. body parts in the kids brain
Maybe they can use the foot for someone else. :lol:
Quote from: Krandall on December 18, 2008, 09:41:07 AM
Maybe they can use the foot for someone else. :lol:
word.
Wonder how many spare parts Erich is carrying with him? Theoretically, he could carry an entire human in there unknowingly.
E's doc: "we have removed this wart on your face, but it appears to be an entire midget" We'll send this one down to the lab for further testing.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081218/ap_on_re_us/western_weather
Las Vegas gets record snowfall, 3.6 inches
LAS VEGAS – Flights resumed in and out of Las Vegas, but schools and highways remained closed Thursday after a record-setting snowfall coated marquees on the Strip, weighed down palm trees and blanketed surrounding mountain areas.
The city awoke to clear weather after a storm that left 3.6 inches at McCarran International Airport. It was biggest December snowfall on record there, and the worst for any month since a 7 1/2-inch accumulation in January 1979, forecasters said.
The storm Wednesday and early Thursday also dumped snow or rain and snarled travel in other parts of Nevada, much of southern California and parts of northern Arizona.
"It looks like Whoville, all snowy, but with less joy and more extreme misery," said Calen Weiss, 19, who was stuck Wednesday when snow in the Cajon Pass east of Los Angeles disrupted travel on Interstate 15.
In Spokane, Wash., the weather service recorded 17 inches of snow in the 24 hours that ended at 4 a.m., breaking the record of 13 inches set in 1984. The city declared a "Condition Red" snow emergency, meaning crews will work 24 hours a day, seven days a week until they complete a full city plow.
For Las Vegas, the storm left heavy wet accumulations of snow along the famed Strip. At least one carport toppled under the accumulated weight, authorities said, and motorists in Henderson parked their cars and walked home when tires spun as they tried to navigate slippery uphill climbs.
Airlines resumed flights Thursday after canceling dozens of them late Wednesday, McCarran airport spokesman Jerry Pascual said.
"Visibility has lifted. The outlook for the day is much better," Pascual said as the sun rose Thursday. Pascual said just one flight had gotten out overnight and stranded travelers were forced to sleep on lounge seats and floors at the nation's sixth-busiest airport
In Arizona, snow was widespread in the state's higher elevations, with 24-hour accumulations reaching 10 inches in Flagstaff by daybreak. An additional 2 to 3 inches of snow was expected. Authorities said major highways were open but advised drivers to be careful of packed snow and ice.
In the western Washington state, the Seattle School District had been mocked by some for closing schools Wednesday with just a threat of snow. The threat became a reality by early Thursday, when 2 inches of snow left many commuters spinning their wheels on slippery roads.
The National Weather Service said the city even had an episode of "thundersnow" when a storm cell moved across Puget Sound.
Even Malibu, Calif., got a dusting of snow, as the usually balmy city saw a half-inch in the afternoon.
"It's kind of cool if you think about it, said Craig Levy, director of a juvenile detention camp. "It's kind of unusual to see snow in Malibu."
I've never heard of Vegas getting snow. Crazy.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 18, 2008, 11:36:02 AM
I've never heard of Vegas getting snow. Crazy.
~Brian
I've seen 2 inches of snow there. Does get cold in the winter.
Snow Erich, not Coke.
:lol:
~Brian
Sorry about that, continue with the conversation.
Was watching footage of snow in Malibu. Hilarious.
I have some pictures of snow on my grill in the back yard in California. That was two years ago when we had a nasty cold snap.
I remember it snowing twice in my whole life living in San Jose. But would not stick. Christmas day was one of them....Awesome, I was about 7 I think. Pretty temperate climate up there. Winter was just 3 solid weeks of rain and wind, then it was over. GERD I miss it. ;)
Time to get that record player looked at yet?
I love to watch a good snow storm so I'm ok with being here today....but just for today.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081219/bs_nm/us_markets_oil
LONDON (Reuters) – Oil fell below $34 on Friday to its lowest level in almost five years as the global economic slowdown overshadowed OPEC's record supply cuts.
U.S. light crude for January delivery fell $2.64 to $33.58 a barrel by 6:50 a.m. EST. It earlier touched $33.44, the lowest since early February 2004.
London Brent crude was trading 18 cents up at $43.54.
Oil prices have fallen by more than $110 from their peak above $147 in July. They look set for their second biggest weekly decline since 2003.
"Until traders see a sustained drop-off in the rate of demand destruction, the market will have a hard time establishing a floor," Jonathan Kornafel, Asia Director of Hudson Capital Energy, said.
"From a credibility standpoint, OPEC has no choice but to bite the bullet for the next few months."
Oil has continued to drop despite pledges by the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) this week to remove 2.2 million barrels per day from its supply, which will be the largest ever reduction by the producer group.
OPEC kingpin Saudi Arabia's Oil Minister Ali al-Naimi, speaking in London, said on Friday the kingdom would be pumping less oil in January and would be at its new output target in line with the group's latest cut.
Other key markets were also falling on Friday. The dollar looked set for its biggest weekly decline since 1985 and world stocks fell as concerns about the U.S. economy worried investors in the last full trading week of 2008.
OUTLOOK
Because of the worldwide credit squeeze, many analysts now expect a drop in oil use this year, the first demand contraction since 1980.
Some doubt OPEC, whose third production cut since September has brought its total reduction to over 4 million bpd or 5 percent of world supply, will fully implement the agreed cuts, further weighing on prices.
"We believe that full implementation of the cuts is unlikely," said Goldman Sachs analysts in a note to clients.
Nobuo Tanaka, executive director of the International Energy Agency (IEA), said on Thursday oil prices were responding to the global economic recession and investors would have to see how much actual supply cuts OPEC would deliver to the market.
But OPEC President Chakib Khelil said on Friday he believed oil prices had found a floor around current levels.
"I don't believe there is any reason for it to fall any further. I don't see it going lower," he told Reuters in London.
@ 34 a barrel.. That should put us somewhere near $1 a gallon yea? ???
Even cutting production 2 million barrels a day, I still think gas will remain low for a while.
~Brian
At last, the music industry admits what we've known for years: That filing music-swapping lawsuits against teenagers, little old ladies, and corpses is a fool's errand (not to mention an expensive headache for the defendants). But don't worry—the RIAA has something new up its sleeves.
The new strategy (as reported by the Wall Street Journal): If the music industry finds out that you're swapping music files online, it'll send an e-mail to your ISP (agreements have already hashed out agreements with "some" unnamed service providers, apparently), which will in turn forward the message to you—probably with a little "P.S." asking you to stop. [Update: CNET has a copy of the RIAA's form letter to ISPs.]
If you don't stop, well ... your service provider probably won't sue you, but it might slow down your broadband connection, or cut off your service altogether.
So, why has the RIAA changed the play? Well, maybe it's been looking at reports like this one from the NPD Group, which shows that U.S. CD sales continue to slide, while the number of tunes shared via P2P sites continues to increase, despite all the litigation.
And then there's the disastrous headlines, as the RIAA relentlessly tracked down and sued tens of thousands of alleged music pirates. Among them: Kids, octogenarians, and a few dead people.
Reaction to the news? Mixed. Engadget's headline reads (in part): "RIAA finds its soul," with the story noting that while the RIAA reserves the right to go after "heavy uploaders or repeat offenders ... it appears that single mothers are in the clear."
All Things Digital has a darker outlook, speculating that ISPs—which "care about the cost of moving lots of data around ... [and] want to make money by selling, renting, or just offering up Hollywood's movies and TV shows to subscribers"—might be more than content to "cut off file-sharers ... [or] simply [charge] heavy file-sharers a lot of money."
And here's another possibility, courtesy of yours truly: Say your ISP catches you sharing tunes via P2P. No problem—download away! But when you get your next cable bill, you'll find the itemized songs added to your monthly charge, kind of like an iTunes bill.
Call it the "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" strategy.
P.S. Make no mistake—just because the RIAA has stopped filing new music-swapping lawsuits doesn't mean that it's dropped the existing ones, according to the Journal. Quite the contrary.
Story via Yahoo Tech news.
~Brian
blah blah blah....
P2P is going to move to entirely encrypted data trnasmissions... No one will be able to see what it is your doin.. Just like how VPN's work.
Quote from: Krandall on December 19, 2008, 04:28:37 PM
blah blah blah....
P2P is going to move to entirely encrypted data trnasmissions... No one will be able to see what it is your doin.. Just like how VPN's work.
So I'm in no danger of downloading my ass off?
???
~Brian
You are right now.. But, PirateBay.org is looking at making a P2P app that runs behind a vpn basically, so there'd be no danger. 8)
Quote from: Krandall on December 20, 2008, 11:28:35 AM
You are right now.. But, PirateBay.org is looking at making a P2P app that runs behind a vpn basically, so there'd be no danger. 8)
What P2P service do you use?
~Brian
I currently use Azerus
I'll have to try that.
~Brian
It's good stuff. Azerus + piratebay.org = H4x0r! 8)
Now with Azerus, can you download music and movies?
~Brian
Breaking News: Shout Box renamed E + E complain about moving to Cali box. :lol:
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 22, 2008, 09:26:07 AM
Now with Azerus, can you download music and movies?
~Brian
Azerus is a torrent application. Not sure if you've seen em, it took me a little bit to get the hang of it.. What you do is go to a torrent site like.. Piratebay.org... Search what your looking for. You find somethin you like and you'll download a "seed file" this will then bring the download into Azerus and download the thing your lookin for...
Yea, you can download, Music, Movies, Applications, Digital Books, pics... ect. :thumbs:
Well,.... they confirmed the bones they found are Caylee's :(
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081219/ap_on_re_us/missing_florida_girl
Skeletal remains don't reveal how Fla. girl died
ORLANDO, Fla. – Pieces of a tiny skeleton found in swampy woods can tell authorities one thing: Missing 3-year-old Caylee Anthony was killed. What they can't help explain, authorities said Friday, is how or when she died. Authorities said at a news conference that DNA tests conducted on remains found by a utility worker last week less than a half-mile from where the child lived matched Caylee's genetic profile. But the only clue they give about her death is that her bones didn't suffer trauma, said Orange County medical examiner Dr. Jan Garavaglia.
"Bottom line is, folks, no child should have to go through this," said Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary.
The discovery of the child's remains came after months of searches, twists and turns in the investigation. Caylee's mother, 22-year-old Casey Anthony, was indicted in October on first-degree murder and other charges, even though no body was found. She has insisted that she left the girl with a baby sitter in June, but she didn't report her missing until July.
A search team said they did not check the wooded area sooner because it was submerged in water from the summer's heavy rains. But the utility worker who made the tip, Roy Kronk, said he had contacted the Orange County Sheriff's office in August to report that he had seen "something suspicious, a bag, in the same area."
The sheriff's office said he first called on Aug. 11 to report the bag. A deputy responded but didn't find anything and was unable to locate him. Kronk called a crime hot line the following day and the information was passed on to the sheriff's office criminal investigation division. On Aug. 13, he called the sheriff's office a third time. He met a deputy, but authorities cleared the area as a place of interest in the search a short time later.
Beary said his department was investigating its response.
"If we missed a window of opportunity, we don't know," he said. "I'm not throwing anybody under the bus because we don't know."
It took authorities several days to analyze the remains since being found last Thursday, and some are still undergoing tests. Some of the bones were as small as a pebble and had been scattered, and the fragments were hard to find by excavators who searched on their hands and knees, authorities said.
Garavaglia — the star of cable TV's "Dr G: Medical Examiner — said authorities concluded Caylee was killed through DNA tests and "circumstantial evidence." But she said she was certain this a homicide and not an accidental death — and didn't expect further testing to reveal a specific cause.
"I wouldn't have issued the report if I wasn't sure," she said.
A jail chaplain told the girl's mother that the remains were her daughter at the Orange County jail just before the news conference began. Her attorney, Jose Baez, was with her at the jail shortly after.
"This is her private moment," Baez said. "This is her life she's trying to battle through right now."
The case captivated the Orlando community where the little girl's family lived, and Caylee has been a staple on national news as her grandparents pleaded for tips, promising that the girl was still alive.
Volunteers and investigators mounted several search through the summer and fall, looking at wooded areas near Orlando International Airport, local parks and even the grounds where the bones were found.
Caylee's grandmother first called authorities in July to say she hadn't seen the girl, whose third birthday passed shortly after her disappearance, for a month. Her daughter's car smelled like death, she said.
Police immediately interviewed Anthony and soon said everything she told them about her daughter's whereabouts was false. The baby sitter was nonexistent and the apartment where Anthony said she had last seen Caylee had been empty for months. Anthony also lied about where she worked, they said.
Other troubling details emerged: Photos surfaced of Anthony partying after her daughter went missing. Friends said she was a habitual liar, but also a good mother.
Last month, the Orange County State Attorney turned over almost 800 pages of documents showing someone used the Anthonys' home computer to do Internet searches for terms like "neck breaking" and "household weapons."
In mid-March, someone searched Google and Wikipedia for peroxide, shovels, acetone, alcohol and chloroform. Traces of chloroform, which is used to induce unconsciousness and a component of human decomposition, were found in the trunk of Casey Anthony's car during forensic testing, the documents say.
If convicted of first-degree murder, Anthony faces an automatic life sentence as prosecutors have announced they will not seek the death penalty. Her trial is scheduled for March.
Without a definite cause of death, a defense lawyer can suggest to a jury that labeling Caylee's death a homicide is only speculation, said A. Russell Smith, a Jacksonville attorney and immediate past president of the Florida Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.
"Juries are particularly conscientious in homicide cases because the penalties are so severe," Smith said. "So, to the extent that there are gaps in critical evidence, it makes the prosecutor's job much more difficult."
That story almost makes my cry and then want to kill someone when i see it!. :( :mad:
Her mother is a whore.
I hope they fry her ass.
~Brian
There is hope for Peels after all.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/23/bush.pardons/index.html
~Brian
:clap: :lol:
I'm free!!!! ;)
Quote from: Krandall on December 22, 2008, 09:34:55 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 22, 2008, 09:26:07 AM
Now with Azerus, can you download music and movies?
~Brian
Azerus is a torrent application. Not sure if you've seen em, it took me a little bit to get the hang of it.. What you do is go to a torrent site like.. Piratebay.org... Search what your looking for. You find somethin you like and you'll download a "seed file" this will then bring the download into Azerus and download the thing your lookin for...
Yea, you can download, Music, Movies, Applications, Digital Books, pics... ect. :thumbs:
its vuze now n00b!!!!
Quote from: who else but rk on December 24, 2008, 08:41:35 AM
Quote from: Krandall on December 22, 2008, 09:34:55 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 22, 2008, 09:26:07 AM
Now with Azerus, can you download music and movies?
~Brian
Azerus is a torrent application. Not sure if you've seen em, it took me a little bit to get the hang of it.. What you do is go to a torrent site like.. Piratebay.org... Search what your looking for. You find somethin you like and you'll download a "seed file" this will then bring the download into Azerus and download the thing your lookin for...
Yea, you can download, Music, Movies, Applications, Digital Books, pics... ect. :thumbs:
its vuze now n00b!!!!
I know I know. But Azerus sounds way cooler than vuze. :rolleyes:
i still dont get the fucking frog :rofl:
Quote from: who else but rk on December 24, 2008, 08:48:01 AM
i still dont get the f :mad: cking frog :rofl:
Yeah, me either, but... cool lookin none the less.
I downloaded the P2P from them, but I'm not sure how to use it, so I guess I'll have to stick to Limewire.
~Brian
You downloaded the Azerus Program?
I can help. It's super easy once you use it. :)
Breaking News. No anti-winter banter from the E's today. :lol:
It is warm, snow stopped...and the sun is out. Very pretty day.
Helps that it is xmas eve too. :lol:
Quote from: Peels660 on December 24, 2008, 09:50:23 AM
Breaking News. No anti-winter banter from the E's today. :lol:
It is warm, snow stopped...and the sun is out. Very pretty day.
Helps that it is xmas eve too. :lol:
We;ve had some rain, but it's moved on. The sun was out earlier, but it's cloudy now.
~Brian
Sorry ladies, The Golden Boy is officially off the market. TMZ and E! report that New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady proposed to his girlfriend, Brazilian supermodel Gisele Bündchen, aboard a private jet on Christmas Eve. Bündchen accepted.
The couple was traveling from New Jersey to Boston when Brady reportedly popped the question. TMZ also notes that Bündchen's parents were aboard the flight, along with four dozen white roses and bottles of champagne. No word on whether Bill Belichick had the proposal videotaped. :rofl:
The defending NFL MVP became tabloid fodder while dating his previous girlfriend, actress Bridget Moynahan. The two split-up in late 2006, at which point Brady began dating Gisele. Soon after, it was revealed that Moynahan was pregnant with Brady's child. It was all very "Days of Our Lives".
No wedding date has been reported, but In Touch magazine suggested earlier this month that the couple was planning a small ceremony in March.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 24, 2008, 08:54:39 AM
I downloaded the P2P from them, but I'm not sure how to use it, so I guess I'll have to stick to Limewire.
~Brian
limewire works just as well for downloading torrents, vuze just looks nicer
Quote from: who else but rk on December 26, 2008, 08:03:52 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on December 24, 2008, 08:54:39 AM
I downloaded the P2P from them, but I'm not sure how to use it, so I guess I'll have to stick to Limewire.
~Brian
limewire works just as well for downloading torrents, vuze just looks nicer
If your looking for a good torrent site , the one I use is www.isohunt.com and its pretty good. :thumbs: :thumbs:
SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. – Charles Barkley was arrested on suspicion of drinking and driving early Wednesday morning.
An officer with a law enforcement task force that targets drunken driving saw the former NBA star run a stop sign around 1:30 a.m., said Gilbert police Lt. Eric Shuhandler.
Barkley declined to submit to a breath test but was given a blood test. The results weren't immediately available.
After Barkley was processed, he was cited and released. He left in a cab, Shuhandler said.
Shuhandler said there was nothing remarkable about Barkley's arrest and that it is customary to release people after they've been arrested on suspicion of DUI.
"There was nothing unusual about how he was taken into custody," Shuhandler said. "He was treated exactly like we treat anybody else."
Barkley was arrested in Scottsdale's Old Town area, one of the trendiest spots in the Phoenix metro area.
Barkley played 16 NBA seasons for the Philadelphia 76ers, Phoenix Suns and Houston Rockets, and played on the USA Olympic "Dream Team" in 1992 and 1996. He was an 11-time NBA All-Star and league MVP in 1993.
Story via AP.
~Brian
Gotta love pro athletes... :rolleyes:
My news...no links or articles...Just giggling at Blagojevich's most recent atrocity. Kinda have to admire the guys moxie. :grin_nod: Appointing someone to a Senate seat you are already accused of selling. What a douche! :lol: I particularly like the phone conversation where he says the seat is a valuable f**king position and he is "not f**king giving it away" :lol:
88 year old woman yanks nude intruder's testicles.
WTF?
:lol:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/12/31/or.naked.intruder.kptv
~Brian
HOT SPRINGS, Ark. (AP) - A man in Hot Springs faces charges for using a golf cart to crash through a storefront to steal several cases of beer.
Police arrested 24-year-old Alejandro Cortez-Sanchez of Florence, Kentucky, after he allegedly crashed into the El Alamo Store on Central Avenue on Christmas Day. A police report says officers responded to a burglary call and found the store's front doors broken in.
The officers spotted a suspect motoring away in a golf cart and gave chase. The suspect began throwing beer bottles at the police cruisers as they followed for several blocks. Cortez-Sanchez stopped when he reached the 100 block of Golf Links Road, where he was arrested.
Several cases of beer were recovered from the cart and returned to the store owner.
Cortez-Sanchez is still being held in the Garland County Jail on $8,000 bond. He has a January 20th court appearance scheduled. He faces felony counts of theft and commercial burglary, both punishable by up to 10 years in prison, and a misdemeanor count of fleeing.
Remember the ALAMO!
:rofl:
~Brian
Beaner off his meds and riding the golf cart again? :lol:
Quote from: Peels660 on December 31, 2008, 10:29:42 AM
Beaner off his meds and riding the golf cart again? :lol:
Very possible.
:lol:
~Brian
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20081231/capt.cps.oqp22.311208075412.photo00.photo.default-341x512.jpg?x=213&y=320&xc=1&yc=1&wc=273&hc=410&q=100&sig=Gzbob0QGCPioxVGFDlFaRw--)
LONDON (AFP) – There's a gnawing problem in the countryside -- a giant beaver on the loose, wreaking havoc in southwest England.
And his owner reckons there's only one thing that can lure the lovelorn rodent back into captivity: the scent of female beaver.
The six-stone (84-pound, 38-kilogramme) animal escaped from the Upcott Grange Farm in the county of Devon back in October, along with two females who were recovered soon after from a nearby lake.
But the one beaver still on the run is thought to be the culprit felling trees some 20 miles (32 kilometres) down the River Tamar at Gunnislake.
Conservationist Derek Gow, who owns 24 of the animals under licence, reckons the runaway is hunting for female beaver. He is planning to catch the escapee using honey traps: boxes that smell of females.
"I know where he is, but he's occupying a territory of probably a kilometre in length," Gow said.
"We've got traps being made up at the moment.
"Using the scent from one of the female beavers, we'll be able to catch the male beaver fairly quickly."
The furry escapee and his trail of destruction were widely covered in Wednesday's national newspapers.
Gow suspects the electric fence surrounding his beaver pen failed during a flood.
"We've checked the fence, we can't find any holes at all. We can't think of any other way they might have got out."
Beavers were hunted to extinction in Britain in the 16th century.
However, in a controversial project, four families of beavers have been shipped in from Norway and will be released in western Scotland early next year.
~Brian
NASSAU (Reuters) - The teenage son of actor John Travolta died suddenly on Friday during a family vacation in the Bahamas, according to the family's lawyer.
Jett Travolta, 16, suffered a seizure at his family's vacation home at the Old Bahama Bay Hotel on Grand Bahama Island, attorney Michael Ossi said.
Attempts were made to revive him, but he died at the scene, Ossi said.
Jett, who had a history of seizures, was the eldest child of Travolta and his wife, actress Kelly Preston. They also have a daughter, Ella Blue, who was born in 2000.
How tragic!
Travolta's 707 (N707JT) was named after his son and daughter. The aircraft is named Jett Clipper Ella.
~Brian
Franken finally won... This has been going back and forth since the election. How crazy is it that an election can come within a few hundred votes. ::)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090105/ap_on_el_se/minnesota_senate
MINNEAPOLIS – The state Canvassing Board was poised to certify the results of the recount in Minnesota's grueling Senate election in Al Franken's favor — but that doesn't mean the race is definitely over.
The board was to meet Monday and was expected to declare which candidate received the most overall votes from nearly 3 million ballots cast. The latest numbers showed Franken, a Democrat, with a 225-vote lead over Republican Sen. Norm Coleman, who led Franken on election night.
But after the announcement, there will be a seven-day waiting period before an election certificate is completed. If any lawsuits are filed during that waiting period, certification is conditional until the issue is settled in court.
Lawyers for both campaigns have laid the groundwork for lawsuits through public comments and legal maneuvering. In recent weeks, as Franken clung to a small lead, Coleman's lawyers promised a lawsuit over their claim that some ballots duplicated on election night wound up being counted twice in the recount.
The Coleman campaign also has a petition pending before the state Supreme Court to include 650 ballots that it says were improperly rejected but not forwarded by local officials to St. Paul for counting.
The court has not said when it would rule in that case.
New York Sen. Charles Schumer, who until recently was the head of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, said Sunday that Franken had won the election.
"While there are still possible legal issues that will run their course, there is no longer any doubt who will be the next Senator from Minnesota," Schumer said. "With the Senate set to begin meeting on Tuesday to address the important issues facing the nation, it is crucial that Minnesota's seat not remain empty, and I hope this process will resolve itself as soon as possible."
Sen. John Cornyn, the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, called Schumer's comments premature and troubling, since Schumer is the new chairman of the Senate Rules Committee, which has jurisdiction over contested elections.
"Senator Schumer will likely play a key role in determining who ultimately assumes this Senate seat," Cornyn said. "Pre-judging the outcome while litigation is still pending calls into question his ability to impartially preside over this matter when it comes before the Committee, as it most certainly will."
Coleman's term as senator officially expired Saturday.
Senate Republican leaders have said the chamber shouldn't seat Franken until all legal matters are settled, even if that drags on for months.
Franken campaign spokesman Andy Barr said in an e-mail Sunday: "In terms of future planning, we're taking it one step at a time. The next step is the canvass board's meeting tomorrow, where we have every expectation they will declare that Al won the election."
It's about time.....Hell it only took two months!
:lol:
~Brian
We're a bit S-L-O-O-O-O-W up here. :lol:
Dammit! What am I going to listen to on public radio now? That stupid election was on all the time.
I like Franken, but I can't get over his SNL days as the traveling reporter with the sat. dish on his head. :lol:
I thought it was funny when Jesse the body Ventura got elected....wtf is going on up there Krandall? :lol:
Quote from: Krandall on January 05, 2009, 08:43:52 AM
We're a bit S-L-O-O-O-O-W up here. :lol:
Well, at least your state didn't pull a Florida and elect the WRONG man.
~Brian
Quote from: Peels660 on January 05, 2009, 09:08:39 AM
Dammit! What am I going to listen to on public radio now? That stupid election was on all the time.
I like Franken, but I can't get over his SNL days as the traveling reporter with the sat. dish on his head. :lol:
I thought it was funny when Jesse the body Ventura got elected....wtf is going on up there Krandall? :lol:
That was before I could vote. So.. don't ask me.... :lol:
Coleman or Franken, I don't think we can go wrong w/ either or.
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 05, 2009, 09:10:11 AM
Quote from: Krandall on January 05, 2009, 08:43:52 AM
We're a bit S-L-O-O-O-O-W up here. :lol:
Well, at least your state didn't pull a Florida and elect the WRONG man.
~Brian
AWW NAWWW HELL NAWWW!!!!!!!!!! :lol:
Fraken was in a movie I watched a few days ago.
He was a baggage handler on a train in the movie Trading Places with Eddie Murphy and Dan Akroyd.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 05, 2009, 09:16:25 AM
Fraken was in a movie I watched a few days ago.
He was a baggage handler on a train in the movie Trading Places with Eddie Murphy and Dan Akroyd.
~Brian
Movie Classic.....
"We're ruined Randolph"!!!!!!!!!
:lol:
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 05, 2009, 09:57:48 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 05, 2009, 09:16:25 AM
Fraken was in a movie I watched a few days ago.
He was a baggage handler on a train in the movie Trading Places with Eddie Murphy and Dan Akroyd.
~Brian
Movie Classic.....
"We're ruined Randolph"!!!!!!!!!
:lol:
Welcome back.
Oh, and love the cameo Randolph and Mortimer made in
Coming to America.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 05, 2009, 10:00:18 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 05, 2009, 09:57:48 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 05, 2009, 09:16:25 AM
Fraken was in a movie I watched a few days ago.
He was a baggage handler on a train in the movie Trading Places with Eddie Murphy and Dan Akroyd.
~Brian
Movie Classic.....
"We're ruined Randolph"!!!!!!!!!
:lol:
Welcome back.
Oh, and love the cameo Randolph and Mortimer made in Coming to America.
~Brian
Thanks,
I was shocked at how many people didn't catch that cameo becuase they had never seen trading places :rolleyes:
"We're back!"
:lol:
~Brian
Two hilarious movies! :thumbs:
WTF! Talk about a 180!
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SENATE_BURRIS?SITE=MITRA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
WASHINGTON – Changing course, Senate Democrats emerged from a meeting with Senate appointee Roland Burris on Wednesday and set forth the legal steps under which they're willing to welcome him into the Senate in President-elect Barack Obama's vacated spot.
Praising the former state attorney general, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said the Senate is awaiting a court ruling in a case that tests whether the Illinois secretary of state is required to sign Burris' certification. Senate leaders say that signature is required to seat Burris; Reid suggested that securing it would be a step toward seating him.
"We don't have a problem with him as an individual," Reid said at a news conference in which he dramatically softened his party's opposition to seating any appointee of embattled Gov. Rod Blagojevich. Federal prosecutors arrested the governor last month and accused him of trying to sell Obama's Senate seat.
Knowledgeable Senate officials said the visual embrace of Burris was meant to show acceptance of his personal and professional qualifications, reflecting the belief of Senate Democrats and Republicans that Burris will eventually be seated.
New support for admitting Burris from Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., on Tuesday night lent some urgency to the matter, these officials said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.
"There's going to come a time when the entire Senate is going to have to act on this," Reid said. "And that day, I hope, would come sooner rather than later."
Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, who also met with Burris, said he hoped the legal matters would be resolved "so we can fill all the vacancies and have a full complement of the Senate."
Like Reid, Obama has opposed the seating of any Blagojevich appointee. But shortly before the Reid-Durbin news conference, Obama told reporters the case "is a Senate matter."
"But I know Roland Burris," Obama added. "He's from my home state. I think he's a fine public servant."
The pleasantries were a far cry from the he-can't-be-seated rhetoric that came from the Senate Democratic caucus a week ago when the governor shocked the party and nominated Burris, who would be the Senate's only black member now that Obama has departed.
The meeting itself, with cameras invited to photograph Burris seated between Durbin and Reid at the Senate's power center, was an abrupt reversal from a day earlier when Democratic leaders would not allow him to speak to reporters inside the Capitol. Instead, they made arrangements for Burris and his lawyers to hold a news conference outside, in the pouring rain.
The softening comes after black lawmakers lobbied for his seating and Feinstein said Burris should be allowed to join the Senate. Another political element in the equation: Obama is trying to focus Congress on his nearly trillion-dollar economic recover plan and may not welcome the distraction of a Burris showdown.
Neither Durbin nor Reid guaranteed Burris would be seated but the majority leader said there almost certainly would be a full Senate vote on it.
Sounds like some cash changed hands.
They blocked his ass yesterday, now this?
WTF.
~Brian
Yup, I have a feeling someones bank account is full.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 07, 2009, 11:47:45 AM
Yup, I have a feeling someones bank account is full.
The appointment should have never been valid since the govna is under investigation.
~Brian
It's good to see the Dems bring there corruption game up to par :rofl:
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 07, 2009, 11:49:48 AM
It's good to see the Dems bring there corruption game up to par :rofl:
Trying not to be out done by the Republicans.
:lol:
Throw in some shredded documents, and we've got a deal!
:rofl:
~Brian
well I guess since Ted Kennedy nor the Clintons have killed anyone for awhile, they needed to vent :lol:
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 07, 2009, 11:55:44 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 07, 2009, 11:49:48 AM
It's good to see the Dems bring there corruption game up to par :rofl:
Trying not to be out done by the Republicans.
:lol:
Throw in some shredded documents, and we've got a deal!
:rofl:
~Brian
Will whitewater work?
:lol:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 07, 2009, 12:13:22 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 07, 2009, 11:55:44 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 07, 2009, 11:49:48 AM
It's good to see the Dems bring there corruption game up to par :rofl:
Trying not to be out done by the Republicans.
:lol:
Throw in some shredded documents, and we've got a deal!
:rofl:
~Brian
Will whitewater work?
:lol:
Only if it comes from the Watergate hotel.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 07, 2009, 12:15:28 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 07, 2009, 12:13:22 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 07, 2009, 11:55:44 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 07, 2009, 11:49:48 AM
It's good to see the Dems bring there corruption game up to par :rofl:
Trying not to be out done by the Republicans.
:lol:
Throw in some shredded documents, and we've got a deal!
:rofl:
~Brian
Will whitewater work?
:lol:
Only if it comes from the Watergate hotel.
:lol:
~Brian
There will be cigars and a blue dress waiting ;)
:lol:
and the list can go on and on from both sides.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 07, 2009, 12:18:34 PM
and the list can go on and on from both sides.
Just poking fun at both sides......Makes a good laugh.
~Brian
no wonder guys like dennis miller can make a carrer on political jokes, there's SO MUCH material :lol:
IMO, it is not Burris' fault he got appointed by a douche. Unless they find something wrong with the appointee, it should stand. Unless there was foul dealings. ;)
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 07, 2009, 12:25:00 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 07, 2009, 12:18:34 PM
and the list can go on and on from both sides.
Just poking fun at both sides......Makes a good laugh.
~Brian
I just get pissed that politics has gone so bad. Just a bunch of thugs now.
Quote from: Peels660 on January 07, 2009, 12:26:49 PM
IMO, it is not Burris' fault he got appointed by a douche. Unless they find something wrong with the appointee, it should stand. Unless there was foul dealings. ;)
I can see why Burris is pissed.
If I paid that much for something, I would be pissed if it didn't work.
:lol:
~Brian
Brian are behind a few payments??? :rofl:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 07, 2009, 12:41:03 PM
Brian are behind a few payments??? :rofl:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Holy shit!
You've got to be kidding!
That's not going to happen!
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 07, 2009, 12:45:58 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 07, 2009, 12:41:03 PM
Brian are behind a few payments??? :rofl:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
Holy shit!
You've got to be kidding!
That's not going to happen!
~Brian
Well then pay up, sucka!!!
:lol:
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 07, 2009, 12:30:33 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on January 07, 2009, 12:26:49 PM
IMO, it is not Burris' fault he got appointed by a douche. Unless they find something wrong with the appointee, it should stand. Unless there was foul dealings. ;)
I can see why Burris is pissed.
If I paid that much for something, I would be pissed if it didn't work.
:lol:
~Brian
:lol: too true
The family of a 14-year-old Afghan rape victim face prosecution after her foetus was removed without anaesthetic.
The mother and brother of the girl are accused of cutting her open with a razor blade to perform an abortion.
Doctors say the girl is in a critical condition. A man accused of raping her is under arrest, officials say.
Rape victims and their families in Afghanistan often feel ashamed to report what has happened because people may think the victim consented to sex.
Sex outside marriage is illegal in Afghanistan.
'Dog bite'
The governor of Bamiyan Province, Habiba Sarabi, says that action is being taken.
When the girl was five months pregnant it is alleged her mother and brother took her to a stables and cut her open with a razor blade.
They removed the foetus, which they buried, before stitching up her wound, Governor Sarabi said.
The father eventually took the girl to get medical treatment.
Dr Ghulam Mohammad Nader, head of Bamiyan hospital, said the girl is in a critical condition, but that she had been able to explain what had happened to her.
"The girl stayed at home for three or four days in her condition until her father took her to hospital," Dr Nader said.
"He said a dog had bitten her so that people in the area wouldn't know what had really happened."
The provincial governor says the man accused of raping the girl has been arrested and that police are trying to arrest her mother and brother.
The victims of rape and their families in Afghanistan are often afraid to admit what has happened to them because of the stigma and shame attached to the issue.
Sometimes the victims are murdered by their own families.
Critics accuse the authorities of not taking accusations of rape seriously, especially those made by children.
But President Karzai recently called for rapists to be brought to justice and the Afghan Supreme Court suspended three judges who acquitted people accused of rape.
~Brian
Thats it, time to bomb that f*cking area of the world! That lit my blood on fire! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 08, 2009, 09:46:29 AM
Thats it, time to bomb that f*cking area of the world! That lit my blood on fire! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
For the first time, I understand your anger sharks. That is f**king sick and wrong!
new meds have been helping with the anger sharks, but there is no stopping them with this story.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 08, 2009, 09:46:29 AM
Thats it, time to bomb that f*cking area of the world! That lit my blood on fire! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
You had me at bomb ;)
:lol:
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 08, 2009, 09:55:24 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 08, 2009, 09:46:29 AM
Thats it, time to bomb that f*cking area of the world! That lit my blood on fire! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
You had me at bomb ;)
:lol:
how sweet. :lol:
And she used flour!
:rofl: :rofl:
http://ERMAHGERD.yahoo.com/news/biggest-loser-star-busted-for-throwing-flour-in-tenants-face/17330?nc
A contestant on The Biggest Loser has been arrested for allegedly assaulting a housemate with a bag of flour.
The same day that the NBC reality show debuted, Shanon Thomas, 30, was charged with domestic violence Tuesday, according to the Detroit Free Press.
If convicted, she could face more than three months in jail.
See what other celebs looked like when they got arrested.
According to police, on Dec. 16, Thomas assaulted a man who lived in the basement of her suburban Detroit home after he had the TV volume too high.
She is alleged to have "kicked open the door" to his basement apartment and threw flour in his face, damaging some of his personal property in the process.
He has since moved out.
See today's top celeb news photos.
Thomas, who is a massage therapist, was arraigned and released on $2,000 bond after being taken into custody.
On Loser, she makes up one half of the Pink Team. Her teammate, Helen Phillips, is her mother
Moped driver with meth lab among 4 arrested in Warsaw
(http://media.wsbt.com/images/MopedMethMugs.JPG)
Kyle Dean Miller (top left), Jacob Paul Miller (top right), Mindy Sue Ditton (bottom left), and Morgan Rachael Wood (bottom right) were arrested Tuesday, January 6, in related drug and stolen property crimes in Warsaw.
Warsaw, Indiana — A moped driver carrying a mobile methamphetamine lab was one of four arrested Tuesday in related drug and stolen property crimes.
tip led the Kosciusko County Drug Task Force to the 1400 block of East Fort Wayne Street in Warsaw. There officers with a search warrant arrested 36-year-old Jacob Paul Miller, a resident of the house, on preliminary charges of dealing meth, possibly receiving stolen property, and an outstanding warrant for restricted sale of ephedrine. His bond was set at $21,500.
Another resident of the house, 33-year-old Mindy Sue Ditton, was preliminarily charged with possession of an illegal drug lab after the Kosciusko DTF found several precursors for the production of meth. She was also preliminarily charged with possession of paraphernalia. Her bond was set at $5,000.
Stolen property in the house led officers to the 600 block of East Center Street, where they found more stolen property and arrested Morgan Rachael Wood, 24, for possession/receiving stolen items. Her bond was set at $2,000.
Officers returned to the E. Fort Wayne Street address, where 49-year-old Kyle Dean Miller later drove up on a moped carrying a mobile meth lab that police say was in a "volatile state."
Miller was arrested for dealing meth. His bond was set at $20,000.
The mobile lab was a type informally termed a "one potter," which cooks meth using one container. The gasses produced can lead to an explosion if the container isn't "burped" every 15 to 20 minutes, say police. The Indiana State Police Clandestine Lab team was called in to secure it.
At the time of Tuesday's arrest, Miller was out on bond after a December 29 arrest for possession of meth.
~Brian
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
MOPED FOR THE WIN!!!!
Beans... ??? ??? ???
meth-ped...sweet! Never thought of that.
There are some places in Indiana that make Iowa look like Prime real estate.
Possibly Beans. He does roll a moped.
No mention of a mobile meth lab on a golf cart either.
:lol:
~Brian
Bye Bye shit head.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/ILLINOIS_GOVERNOR?SITE=CAGRA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Illinois House impeaches Gov. Rod Blagojevich
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) -- The Illinois House has voted to impeach Gov. Rod Blagojevich (bluh-GOY'-uh-vich), an unprecedented step in state history.
The action sets the stage for a Senate trial on whether he should be thrown out of office for corruption and abuse of power.
House members found evidence that the two-term Democrat had abused his power, including improperly spending tax money, adopting programs without legislative approval and violating state hiring laws. He's denied wrongdoing.
The House began impeachment proceedings after federal authorities arrested Blagojevich Dec. 9. He's accused, among other things, of attempting to sell an appointment to fill President-elect Barack Obama's vacant U.S. Senate seat for political favors.
Auf Wiedersehn Douche!
So long, farwell, auf wiedersehn douche!
:lol:
It's about freaking time!!!
~Brian
WASHINGTON – Get ready for the in-law in chief.
Transition officials said Friday that President-elect Barack Obama's mother-in-law, Marian Robinson, is moving into the White House to join Michelle Obama and their two children.
It's not clear whether the move will be permanent.
Katie McCormick Lelyveld, the press secretary for Michelle Obama, said Robinson would decide in coming months whether she wants to stay in Washington.
Robinson retired from her job as a bank executive secretary to help with her granddaughters during the campaign.
WTF?
I'm sure it's on the taxpayers.
:mad:
~Brian
Thats some BS, we get to pay for her to live there. I'm sure that will cost a pretty penny. Looks like Obama Mania is wearing off, even some dems are pissed with some of his plans.
I think they have come to reality that the stimulus plan must be reworked. It's going to take a bigger stimulus than planned to get things going.
Obama's mother in law is the children's nanny. They will pay her $6,000 per month.
I got dibs on the Lincoln bedroom!
:lol:
~Brian
NEW YORK — It is perhaps the most intriguing unsolved mystery from the gaudy gangland career of John Gotti: Whatever happened to the neighbor who accidentally ran over and killed the mobster's 12-year-old son — and then vanished?
(http://www.foxnews.com/images/490821/1_62_gotti_john.jpg)
John Gotti
According to papers filed this week in Brooklyn federal court, John Favara was shot to death on orders of the outraged Gambino crime family chief and his body was dissolved in a barrel of acid. Authorities said a cooperating witness identified Charles Carneglia, a 62-year-old former mobster, as the perpetrator in the 1980 incident.
The court documents said Carneglia told another informant that acid was "the best method to use to avoid detection."
Those details, in a 44-page evidence motion by federal prosecutors for a racketeering trial, offered a new twist on the fate of Favara, a 51-year-old furniture warehouse worker who lived near the Gottis in the Howard Beach section of Queens.
Favara was arriving home from work on March 18, 1980, when Gotti's son Frank, riding a minibike, darted in front of his car. The driver told police he was momentarily blinded by the sun and did not see the boy.
The crash was ruled an accident by police, but Favara was subjected to death threats and harassment for months. His car was stolen and later smeared with the word "murderer," and he was threatened by Gotti's bat-wielding wife when he tried to apologize.
Five months later, on July 28, 1980, Favara disappeared after leaving work on Long Island and no trace of him was ever found. Witnesses saw him being beaten and heard tires squealing. The Gottis gave police hotel receipts showing they were in Florida on that date, and no arrests were ever made.
Jerry Capeci, an author and expert on the Mafia who has written extensively on Gotti, said rumors circulated that "Favara's body had been put into a cement-filled oil drum and dropped in the ocean."
John Gotti Sr. at that time was a captain in the Gambino family, already scheming and murdering his way to becoming boss. After two courtroom acquittals that earned him the sobriquet "Teflon Don," the swaggering hoodlum was finally convicted in 1992 of murder, racketeering and a smorgasbord of other crimes. He died in federal prison in 2002.
Carneglia, according to the court documents, was part of a seven-member hit squad that committed murders on order and disposed of the victims. He faces trial for racketeering and five murders.
The prosecutors' motion, signed by Assistant U.S. Attorney Roger Burlingame, includes Favara's case among several "uncharged crimes."
Carneglia has pleaded not guilty. His attorneys did not immediately respond to requests for comment Thursday.
The new revelation raises yet another question for experts who have been studying gangland activities.
Asks Capeci: "What kind of acid could be used in a metal drum without leaking?"
Story via FoxNews.com
Freaking hard core.
~Brian
Nice... :rolleyes:
NEW YORK — A former actor on "The Sopranos" was sentenced Friday to 10 years in prison for a botched burglary in the Bronx in which an accomplice shot and killed an off-duty police officer.
(http://www.foxnews.com/images/491403/0_61_sopranos_320.jpg)
Lilo Brancato Jr.
A jury acquitted Lillo Brancato Jr. in the death of the police officer, but convicted him of attempted burglary. He had faced up to 15 years in prison.
Prosecutors said Brancato and the accomplice were looking for drugs when they broke into an apartment next door to the officer's home in December 2005. When Officer Daniel Enchautegui went to investigate, he was gunned him down.
Steven Armento was convicted of first-degree murder and was sentenced to life in prison without parole.
The acquittal in the murder case against Brancato outraged the slain officer's family and the union that represents police officers.
Prosecutors had sought the maximum sentence in the attempted burglary conviction. Brancato has already served three years waiting for his trial, for which he will receive credit.
Brancato rose to fame in 1993's "A Bronx Tale," playing a young kid from the neighborhood who is torn between two worlds and two men: a local mobster played by Chazz Palminteri and his straight-and-narrow bus driver father, played by Robert De Niro.
Other roles followed, most notably a stint on the second season of HBO's "The Sopranos." His character carried out a series of low-level crimes for the New Jersey mob before being gunned down by Tony Soprano and his sidekick as he tearfully begged for his life.
Brancato, 32, and Armento, 48, were drinking together at a strip club before deciding to break into the basement apartment in a hunt for Valium, prosecutors said.
Brancato testified that the break-in never happened. He claimed that he had known the owner, a Vietnam veteran, for several years. He also said he had permission to go inside and take painkillers and other pills whenever he felt like it, and didn't know the man had died earlier that year.
He said the pills were part of a drug problem that began when he was introduced to marijuana on the set of "A Bronx Tale." He later became hooked on crack and heroin.
Brancato told the jury that while suffering from judgment-impairing heroin withdrawals on the night of the shooting, he accidentally broke the kitchen window of the apartment in a desperate attempt to wake up his old pill supplier.
Brancato tried to deflect suggestions by the prosecution that his testimony -- at times punctuated by vignettes about his drug-crazed downfall -- was another acting job.
His lawyer, Joseph Tacopina, said Brancato wanted to turn his life around.
Story via FoxNews.com
~Brian
is it art imitates life, or life imitates art? :lol:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090112/bs_nm/us_usa_banking_tarp
Further bank aid must include pay limits: Dodd
It's a bout dang time...... :rolleyes:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Senate will not approve more bailout money for banks unless it includes limits on executive pay and help for struggling homeowners, Senate Banking Committee Chairman Chris Dodd said on Monday.
"Executive compensation needs to be dealt with, we mentioned foreclosure mitigation needs to be part of this as well," Dodd, a Connecticut Democrat, said on ABC's "Good Morning America."
"My colleagues in the Senate will not provide any additional funds unless they are assured by the Obama administration that these provisions will be a part of it," he said.
Any additional aid must also include stronger oversight provisions, limits on merger and acquisition activity, and protections for taxpayers, Dodd said.
President George W. Bush, working with President-elect Barack Obama, might ask Congress for permission to use the remaining half of a $700 billion bailout program aimed at stabilizing the financial system.
The purpose of the request would be to have the funds in place soon after Obama takes office on January 20. But it may prove difficult to win approval because the bailout program is unpopular with many lawmakers who feel too much money has already been given to Wall Street with no strings attached.
"It's been totally mismanaged in my view by the Bush administration, we've seen that over the last couple of weeks," Dodd said.
The Golden Gophers may not be prarie doggin' manymore :lol:
A little birdie says Oklahoma quarterbacks coach Josh Heupel, 30, a former Heisman Trophy runner-up who coached Heisman Trophy winner Sam Bradford, is the leading candidate for the Gophers' offensive coordinator job. Other candidates are Texas running backs coach Major Applewhite and Houston offensive coordinator Dana Holgorsen
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 12, 2009, 12:09:08 PM
The Golden Gophers may not be prarie doggin' manymore :lol:
A little birdie says Oklahoma quarterbacks coach Josh Heupel, 30, a former Heisman Trophy runner-up who coached Heisman Trophy winner Sam Bradford, is the leading candidate for the Gophers' offensive coordinator job. Other candidates are Texas running backs coach Major Applewhite and Houston offensive coordinator Dana Holgorsen
Josh is from North Dakota or South Dakota. He's been a true assett in developing Bradford. Josh was part of the 2000 team that won the National Championship eight years ago against Florida State.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 12, 2009, 12:28:48 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 12, 2009, 12:09:08 PM
The Golden Gophers may not be prarie doggin' manymore :lol:
A little birdie says Oklahoma quarterbacks coach Josh Heupel, 30, a former Heisman Trophy runner-up who coached Heisman Trophy winner Sam Bradford, is the leading candidate for the Gophers' offensive coordinator job. Other candidates are Texas running backs coach Major Applewhite and Houston offensive coordinator Dana Holgorsen
Josh is from North Dakota or South Dakota. He's been a true assett in developing Bradford. Josh was part of the 2000 team that won the National Championship eight years ago against Florida State.
~Brian
He was a good QB, but more of a manager than a explosive talent. I think he made the correct decision going into coaching instead of trying the NFL.
He could have been the next Eric Couch :lol:
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 12, 2009, 03:36:17 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 12, 2009, 12:28:48 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 12, 2009, 12:09:08 PM
The Golden Gophers may not be prarie doggin' manymore :lol:
A little birdie says Oklahoma quarterbacks coach Josh Heupel, 30, a former Heisman Trophy runner-up who coached Heisman Trophy winner Sam Bradford, is the leading candidate for the Gophers' offensive coordinator job. Other candidates are Texas running backs coach Major Applewhite and Houston offensive coordinator Dana Holgorsen
Josh is from North Dakota or South Dakota. He's been a true assett in developing Bradford. Josh was part of the 2000 team that won the National Championship eight years ago against Florida State.
~Brian
He was a good QB, but more of a manager than a explosive talent. I think he made the correct decision going into coaching instead of trying the NFL.
He could have been the next Eric Couch :lol:
He was drafted in 2001 by the Dolphins, but had an issue with his throwing hand. He was a fourth string QB. I thought he broke it, but I could be wrong.
~Brian
Brian..... I say you pack up.. Job of a lifetime!!!!
Australia offers 'best job in world' on paradise island
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090113/od_afp/lifestyleaustraliatourismoffbeat_20090113032028
SYDNEY (AFP) – An Australian state is offering internationally what it calls "the best job in the world" -- earning a top salary for lazing around a beautiful tropical island for six months.
The job pays 150,000 Australian dollars (105,000 US dollars) and includes free airfares from the winner's home country to Hamilton Island on the Great Barrier Reef, Queensland's state government announced on Tuesday.
In return, the "island caretaker" will be expected to stroll the white sands, snorkel the reef, take care of "a few minor tasks" -- and report to a global audience via weekly blogs, photo diaries and video updates.
The successful applicant, who will stay rent-free in a three-bedroom beach home complete with plunge pool and golf buggy, must be a good swimmer, excellent communicator and be able to speak and write English.
"They'll also have to talk to media from time to time about what they're doing so they can't be too shy and they'll have to love the sea, the sun, the outdoors," said acting state Premier Paul Lucas.
"The fact that they will be paid to explore the islands of the Great Barrier Reef, swim, snorkel and generally live the Queensland lifestyle makes this undoubtedly the best job in the world."
Lucas said the campaign was part of a drive to protect the state's 18 billion Australian dollar a year tourism industry during the tough economic climate caused by the global financial meltdown.
"Traditional tourism advertising just doesn't cut it sometimes and we are thinking outside the box by launching this campaign."
Queensland Tourism Minister Desley Boyle said some people might question whether it was risky to let an unknown person become an unofficial tourism spokesperson for the state.
"I think the biggest risk will be that the successful candidate won't want to go home at the end of the six months," she said.
"This is a legitimate job which is open to anyone and everyone."
Applications are open until February 22. Eleven shortlisted candidates will be flown to Hamilton Island in early May for the final selection process and the six month contract will commence on July 1.
Job-seekers can apply on .
I saw that on CNN this morning. I'm so there.
~Brian
Applying now!
~Brian
Just think how many applicants they are going to get. I am applying as well. :clap:
Its been all over every news. They say it was a pitch since tourism is so low.
well.. tourism would be high if tickets didn't cost f*ckin 2g's to fly into Melbourne or Sydney. :mad:
Quote from: Krandall on January 13, 2009, 08:13:46 AM
well.. tourism would be high if tickets didn't cost f*ckin 2g's to fly into Melbourne or Sydney. :mad:
Early last year I priced a trip to Australia. Fly into Brisbane, stay on the Sunshine Coast for ten days for $5100.
~Brian
Carmichael ready to put on a show
One of 3 drivers for KSR headed to Irwindale
By Jason Christley, NASCAR.com
To say Ricky Carmichael is a pretty big deal in Southern California may be an understatement. The man whose success earned him the title of 'Greatest of All-Time' in the motocross world had a great deal of his success on the West Coast.
When the 29-year-old Clearwater, Fla., native heads back to the Los Angeles area next weekend, though, it will be in a stock car. And he's looking forward to treating his longtime fans to a glimpse of a new career at the NASCAR Toyota All-Star Showdown.
"I'm pumped to be racing for my fans out there," Carmichael said. "Southern California has been good to me. It's a great market for supercross and it's been great for me as well.
"I'm pumped for the fans in California to see what I've been doing – racing in the NASCAR Camping World Series – it's a great series."
The NASCAR Toyota All-Star Showdown will feature two days of exciting action Jan. 23-24 among some of the top drivers in NASCAR Camping World Series and NASCAR Whelen All-American Series action. The competition will air live on SPEED beginning at 7 p.m. PT both nights.
"I'm really looking forward to it," Carmichael said. "It will be nice to go out and race before we get geared up for this season's racing. It will take some time to get the cobwebs off, but for the race, I think I'll be good."
Through Monday afternoon, 57 entries had been received for the Camping World Series portion of the event.
CLICK HERE FOR COMPLETE ENTRY LIST
Carmichael, who is close to announcing his 2009 plans, recently got the green light to run in the race from Ken Schrader Racing, which will bring three cars to the postseason showcase at the Toyota Speedway at Irwindale.
Carmichael will be reunited with Schrader, for whom he ran in the NASCAR Camping World Series East in 2007. He'll be joined in Irwindale by teammates Jamie Hayes and Dakoda Armstrong. Hayes has run the past two seasons in the NASCAR Camping World Series East, while Armstrong is making the transition from the USAC Midget Series.
In just his first full season in a NASCAR touring series, Carmichael showed the ability to quickly acclimate himself to his new pursuit.
He won the Coors Light Pole Award at South Boston (Va.) Speedway in just his third race. He was ninth at Watkins Glen (N.Y.) International in his first road-course excursion, and fifth in his first trip to New Hampshire Motor Speedway. Carmichael was running second with two laps to go in the return trip to New Hampshire before running out of fuel. He also had a seventh-place finish at Dover International Speedway.
"That series is such a great series," Carmichael said. "That's an awesome development series. You just learn so much. And there is such great competition. I definitely surprised myself in areas.
"It was a great learning experience for me and I really enjoyed it."
Carmichael was also a hit with the fans, earning the NASCAR Camping World Series East Most Popular Driver Award in online voting through NASCAR.com and NASCARHomeTracks.com.
Carmichael joins a list of big-name, short-track drivers headed to Irwindale for the event.
He'll be joined by three-time NASCAR Camping World Truck Series champion Ron Hornaday Jr., Joe Gibbs Racing teammates Marc Davis and Joey Logano, 2008 NASCAR Camping World Series West champion Eric Holmes, former NASCAR Whelen All-American Series national champions Peyton Sellers and Greg Pursley, and Eddie MacDonald – who swept the NASCAR Camping World Series East races at New Hampshire last year.
The list of top short-track drivers who have already committed to the event also includes NASCAR Camping World Truck Series veteran Matt Crafton, 2008 NASCAR Camping World Series East champion and 2006 NASCAR Toyota All-Star Showdown winner Matt Kobyluck.
Also confirmed to compete are four drivers who have earned rookie of the year honors in the NASCAR Camping World Series in the last three seasons (Jason Bowles, Sellers, Jeff Barkshire and Austin Dillon), Brian Ickler, winner of the NASCAR Camping World Series combination race in Iowa this past May and five of NASCAR's 2008 developmental series champions Kobyluck, Holmes, Scott Steckly (NASCAR Canadian Tire Series), Philip Morris (NASCAR Whelen All-American Series) and Antonio Perez (NASCAR Mexico Series).
In addition to competition for the NASCAR Camping World Series, which is NASCAR's top developmental series, action in the NASCAR Whelen All-American Series will feature a Late Model race and a Super Late Model race.
To purchase tickets for the NASCAR Toyota All-Star Showdown, fans can go to www.toyotaspeedwayatirwindale.com or call the track at (626) 358-1100.
Haha sweet!
Reminds of a job I applied for...
Cruise ships have digital color printers on them. :lol: Xerox Igen 4 color digital press. (menus, announcements, memos, etc.) Has to stay level, so they are on a gimbal mounted floor that articulates. No $hit! :lol: Work for 6 weeks, off 2.
All expenses paid. If we had no kids, I would have done it. :lol:
Sipping Mai Tai's while checking color registration. Priceless. :lol:
Oh boy Aaron...Nascar...I'll pencil that in on the calendar. :rolleyes: :lol: "look man, they just turned left!"
:lol: j/k to each, his own. ;)
Is it already that time again?
I mean, the mullets have been wearing their long linve Dale stuff all winter. Now the Daytona 500 is upon us.
WalMart will be packed!
:lol:
~Brian
you know it!!!! :clap:
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 13, 2009, 08:48:20 AM
Is it already that time again?
I mean, the mullets have been wearing their long linve Dale stuff all winter. Now the Daytona 500 is upon us.
WalMart will be packed!
:lol:
~Brian
when is it not that time? People here seem to think it goes on forever. If I see another #3 sticker with angel wings on it, I will puke. :lol:
I just thinks that Charmicheal is living the life man, just racing anythings with wheels on it!!! Very Cool!!
Quote from: Peels660 on January 13, 2009, 08:50:00 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 13, 2009, 08:48:20 AM
Is it already that time again?
I mean, the mullets have been wearing their long linve Dale stuff all winter. Now the Daytona 500 is upon us.
WalMart will be packed!
:lol:
~Brian
when is it not that time? People here seem to think it goes on forever. If I see another #3 sticker with angel wings on it, I will puke. :lol:
Yeah, they put "In memory of Dale" on their piece of shit car.
Dale would be rolling over in his grave if he knew his name was on a primered Ford Taurus with spinner hubcaps.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 13, 2009, 09:19:09 AM
Quote from: Peels660 on January 13, 2009, 08:50:00 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 13, 2009, 08:48:20 AM
Is it already that time again?
I mean, the mullets have been wearing their long linve Dale stuff all winter. Now the Daytona 500 is upon us.
WalMart will be packed!
:lol:
~Brian
when is it not that time? People here seem to think it goes on forever. If I see another #3 sticker with angel wings on it, I will puke. :lol:
Yeah, they put "In memory of Dale" on their piece of shit car.
Dale would be rolling over in his grave if he knew his name was on a primered Ford Taurus with spinner hubcaps.
:lol:
~Brian
DONT BE F*CKIN HATIN MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
You don't drive a primered Ford with "In memory of Dale" on your car do you?
~Brian
:lol:
No...
Just hatin on the taurus-the-saurs. :lol:
Oh, no offense meant.
Reword: Primered Chevrolet Corsica.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 13, 2009, 09:45:45 AM
Oh, no offense meant.
Reword: Primered Chevrolet Corsica.
~Brian
:rofl:
Corsica, Tempo, or Probe would have been accepted. :rofl:
Mid 90's Monte Carlo with Fake sponsor stickers all over.
Gotta have love for the Corsica too, though. :puke:
Quote from: Peels660 on January 13, 2009, 01:27:50 PM
Mid 90's Monte Carlo with Fake sponsor stickers all over.
Gotta have love for the Corsica too, though. :puke:
Corsica = Four door Beretta.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 13, 2009, 01:38:36 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on January 13, 2009, 01:27:50 PM
Mid 90's Monte Carlo with Fake sponsor stickers all over.
Gotta have love for the Corsica too, though. :puke:
Corsica = Four door Beretta=ka-ka
:lol:
~Brian
equasion finished for ya' :lol:
(http://www.vaguebuttrue.com/images/1228284930-woman%20kissing%20a%20beaver.jpg)
Fergus Falls, MINNESOTA- Wild animals are generally not happy to be kissed by humans but some beavers love getting smooched by Linda Dinteman. "They are lovely creatures and I just love them so much." Neighbors, in the Shanty Creek subdivision, are not happy about it though and have complained to city officials. Lawyers on both sides are not sure if local regulations cover a woman kissing a beaver in public.
:lol:
~Brian
(http://www.vaguebuttrue.com/images/1225853666-Pig%20rampaging%20pigWEBSITE.jpg)
S.Wales,NEW ZEALAND-A giant porker got to be too much for Caroline Hayes, 63, making her a prisoner in her own home by refusing to let her leave her farm house until she fed him. "When I ran out of food he wouldn't let me outside to use the loo," said Ms. Hayes, whose farm doesn't have indoor plumbing. The giant pig would keep her inside for days on end until friends came by with more bananas, the hungry porker's favourite food. Wildlife officials captured the huge pig which was gladly accepted by a piggery who intends to use him as their lead stud.
~Brian
(http://www.vaguebuttrue.com/images/1221851909-donkeyscaresboyEDIT.jpg)
Plano, TEXAS- Disgruntled parents are taking action against the Happy Trails Riding Camp for putting their children in contact with hostile animals. "Will the nightmares ever cease," asked Gretchen Sustachek, in reference to her son's experience at the popular day camp. The resulting trouble sleeping through the night for the last three months has left young Bobby Sustachek listless and unfocused in school. Camp owners have noticed increasing hostile behavior toward the kids by their trail animals but insist that is all part of learning to ride.
:lol:
~Brian
(http://www.vaguebuttrue.com/images/1216143823-dadwasadeer.jpg)
LOS ANGELES, CA - The FOX News Network has admitted they were unable to confirm the veracity of a recent story on the existence of a new species of animal - a human-deer hybrid. FOX had broadcast a story claiming a man from Superior, WI, has had physical relations with several deer and the result was the birth of a cross species hybrid. FOX now denies that part of the story and apologizes for any confusion!
:lol:
Of course the last few stories are somewhat true, they have been slightly twisted.
~Brian
Angry Teacher Rips Student's Cheek Off
On December 18th, 2008, a 10 year-old 5th grader named Chao Qun Zheng went to his elementary school in HeNan, China.
When his teacher, Guo, found out that young Zheng had not completed his homework, she flipped out.
"She was very angry at the time," he said. "She ripped and twisted my cheeks with both her hands and then she lifted me off the ground."
The teacher held the boy up until one of his cheeks actually ripped off and the boy was bleeding profusely.
(http://www.weirdasianews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/xin_010106091100656796137.jpg)
Without hesitation the teacher reached down and picked up Zheng's cheek skin, put it on his face, and instructed the boy go home immediately.
When the parents saw Zheng, they immediately took him to the hospital where it took 52 stitches to have his cheek sewn back on.
Zheng's father has reported the case to the police and is expected to press for damages.
Water fountain shows have always been a big draw for people. Whether you are taking a moment to enjoy the world famous Bellagio fountain show or the smaller, but still amazing, Tianyi Sqaure show in Ningbo, China, you are likely to enjoy the overall experience.
Yang, a 19 year-old college student, had a very different experience.
In August of 2007, Yang was at a local center square in the Henan Province of China. She went with some friends to enjoy the day and see the musical water fountain show.
Yang and her friends were playing in the water fountain area and enjoying the light burst of water that would spray them. All of a sudden, while Yang was struck by a powerful burst of water that threw her into the air.
After the fall, Yang experienced extreme stomach pains and was bleeding badly. She was immediately taken to the hospital to undergo medical care.
The doctor said that the fountains water pressure had torn her vagina and damaged her intestines.
(http://www.weirdasianews.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/236a.gif)
During the following 7 months, Yang received 3 surgeries to repair the damage, which left her some pretty bad scars.
Yang is suing the owners of the fountain for around $24,500 in damages.
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 14, 2009, 09:20:02 AM
(http://www.vaguebuttrue.com/images/1216143823-dadwasadeer.jpg)
LOS ANGELES, CA - The FOX News Network has admitted they were unable to confirm the veracity of a recent story on the existence of a new species of animal - a human-deer hybrid. FOX had broadcast a story claiming a man from Superior, WI, has had physical relations with several deer and the result was the birth of a cross species hybrid. FOX now denies that part of the story and apologizes for any confusion!
:lol:
Of course the last few stories are somewhat true, they have been slightly twisted.
~Brian
Guaranteed Mad Dog donated some genes to that species. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
DAMN!
~Brian
Damn, that is messed up. I have no idea how she tore his cheek off, that took some force.
eewww, fountain ripped the VAG! Ouch! That is fu**in' sick! :confused: Ouch.
ST. CLOUD, Minn. — A St. Cloud woman is in jail after police say she tried to set her boyfriend on fire using a lighter and air freshener.
Investigators say the 49-year-old woman is accused of pouring fingernail polish remover on the victim and the blanket covering him, then trying to light him on fire.
The victim was able to take the air freshener from the woman. Police say she then hit him on the back of the head and bit him several times. As the man tried to call police, the woman allegedly ripped the phone cord out of the wall.
The woman is in the Stearns County Jail on suspicion of domestic assault and interfering with a 911 call.
LOS ANGELES — Ricardo Montalban, the Mexican-born actor who became a star in splashy MGM musicals and later the wish-fulfilling Mr. Roarke in TV's "Fantasy Island," died Wednesday morning at his home, a Los Angeles city councilman said. He was 88.
Montalban's death was announced at a meeting of the city council by president Eric Garcetti, who represents the district where the actor lived. Garcetti did not give a cause of death.
"The Ricardo Montalban Theatre in my Council District — where the next generations of performers participate in plays, musicals, and concerts — stands as a fitting tribute to this consummate performer," Garcetti said later in a written statement.
Montalban had been a star in Mexican movies when MGM brought him to Hollywood in 1946. He was cast in the leading role opposite Esther Williams in "Fiesta." He also starred with the swimming beauty in "On an Island with You" and "Neptune's Daughter."
A later generation knew Montalban as the faintly mysterious, white-suited Mr. Roarke, who presided over an island resort where visitors were able to fulfill their lifelong dreams. "Fantasy Island" received high ratings for most of its 1978-1984 span on ABC television and still appears in reruns.
In a 1978 interview, he analyzed the series' success:
"What is appealing is the idea of attaining the unattainable and learning from it. Once you obtain a fantasy it becomes a reality, and that reality is not as exciting as your fantasy. Through the fantasies you learn to appreciate your own realities."
(http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/photoessay_6276_images/0114091654_M_ricardo_fantasy_450.jpg)
"Smiles, everyone smiles!"
Story via FoxNews.com
~Brian
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3189/2932410143_14bb6e797a_o.jpg)
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — The developer of a skyscraper planned to be the world's tallest said Wednesday it is halting work on the project for a year as the Middle East's business and entertainment capital grapples with the financial crisis.
State-owned builder Nakheel's decision to shelve the landmark development — which it unveiled only in October — came as a leading credit rating firm warned that falling real estate prices will likely hurt banks in Dubai and elsewhere in the United Arab Emirates.
Home values in the emirate tumbled 8 percent in the last three months from the previous quarter, a report Tuesday said, marking what analysts say is the first such decline in years.
The halted skyscraper was planned to soar the length of more than 10 American football fields, and analysts had said its unveiling late last year showed a lot of confidence amid the souring global economy.
In response to questions, state-owned Nakheel said in a brief statement that "further work" on its building's foundations "will commence in 12 months." The developer did not say how much work, if any, has already been completed.
"This is part of our readjustment of our immediate business plans to better reflect the current market trends and match supply with demand," the company said.
The skyscraper — billed as nearly two-thirds of a mile tall or more, or the height of more than three of New York's Chrysler Buildings stacked end to end — was designed to top a Dubai rival's nearly complete tower that already is the world's highest.
Nakheel's chief competitor, Emaar Properties, has kept the final height of the silvery steel-and-glass Burj Dubai, or Dubai Tower in Arabic, a closely guarded secret. The company said late last month the building, which is still under construction, had reached a height of 2,559 feet and has more than 160 stories.
The final height of Nakheel's proposed tower is likewise a secret, as is the price tag.
As part of government-run conglomerate Dubai World, Nakheel has played a major role in creating modern-day Dubai, a city that has blossomed from a tiny Persian Gulf fishing and pearling village into a major business and tourism hub in a matter of decades.
Nakheel is best known for Dubai's growing archipelago of man-made islands. The new tower would be located in the rapidly growing "New Dubai" section between two of the islands.
Wednesday's disclosure is only the latest setback for the company. The developer last month cut 15 percent of its staff and said it was scaling back work on some of its ambitious island-building projects. It also delayed a much-publicized luxury hotel being built with Donald Trump.
A number of other developers have also scrambled to cope with the swift change in fortunes. Several real estate and construction companies have been laying off staff, and a new government-backed developer that unveiled a $95 billion project around the same time of the Nakheel Harbor launch recently said it was reviewing its plans now that "investor demands have changed."
Meanwhile on Wednesday, credit rating firm Moody's Investors Service said falling real estate prices means the outlook is negative for banks in Dubai and elsewhere in the United Arab Emirates.
The firm cited concern about loans given to "opportunistic" property developers in light of falling real estate prices. Other worrying signs include tighter liquidity, falling equity values, and the steep drop in oil prices, Moody's said.
Story via FoxNews.com
~Brian
I am so going to make it there some day!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28678669/?GT1=43001
US Airways jet crashes in Hudson River
NEW YORK - A US Airways plane crashed into the frigid Hudson River on Thursday afternoon after striking birds that disabled two engines, sending 150 on board scrambling onto rescue boats, authorities say. No deaths or serious injuries were immediately reported.
Federal Aviation Administration spokeswoman Laura Brown said the US Airways Flight 1549 had just taken off from LaGuardia Airport enroute to Charlotte, N.C., when the crash occurred in the river near 48th Street in midtown Manhattan.
Brown said the plane, an Airbus 320, appeared to have hit one or more birds.
So far, no fatalities.
~Brian
No fatalities as of now on the Jet Crash. All passengers have made it out safe
Congrats to the pilot. He did a great job today.
That is the 3 minutes of terror that Pilots are paid the big bucks to handle.This guy is a hero. He would deny that but 150 happy passengers would agree he is a hero.
Bush made his final address :clap: :clap: :clap:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/15/bush.farewell/index.html
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In his final public address from the White House, a reflective President Bush on Thursday recalled the ups and downs of his eight-year tenure and said he was willing to make the tough decisions.
President Bush touts what he considers his foreign policy achievements Thursday at the State Department.
more photos » "I have followed my conscience and done what I thought was right. You may not agree with some tough decisions I have made. But I hope you can agree that I was willing to make the tough decisions."
Bush, who as president has become known for adamantly sticking to positions even when they've come under criticism, acknowledged setbacks and said he would have done some things differently.
"Like all who have held this office before me, I have experienced setbacks," Bush said. "There are things I would do differently if given the chance. Yet I have always acted with the best interests of our country in mind. Watch Bush's final address »
Bush also said he is "filled with gratitude," and characterized Obama's inauguration as a "moment of hope and pride for our whole nation."
Bush predicted a bright future. "We have faced danger and trial and there is more ahead," Bush said. "But with the courage of our people and confidence in our ideals, this great nation will never tire, never falter and never fail."
Recalling the defining moment of his presidency, Bush said the September 11, 2001, attacks forever altered the way he approached his job.
Don't Miss
Full text of Bush's farewell speech
Bush lost more domestic battles than he won
Bush's legacy: Bully or liberator?
Americans happy 'failed marriage' is ending
"As the years passed, most Americans were able to return to life much as it had been before 9/11," Bush said. "But I never did." iReport.com: Share your thoughts on Bush's farewell
"Every morning, I received a briefing on the threats to our nation. And I vowed to do everything in my power to keep us safe," he said.
He cited the creation of the Department of Homeland Security and changes in the military and intelligence communities as part of the reason the United States has not seen another significant terrorist attack since 2001.
"There is legitimate debate about many of these decisions," he said, an allusion that could refer to constitutional challenges to the administration-backed U.S. Patriot Act, controversy over the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo, Cuba, and the decision to invade Iraq before Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda had been vanquished in Afghanistan. View iconic moments in Bush's presidency »
"But there can be little debate about the results -- America has gone more than seven years without another terrorist attack on our soil."
He warned that America's "enemies are patient, and determined to strike again" and urged against isolationism and protectionism in the face of economic and other challenges from abroad. Watch Bush's exit interview with King »
As he exits the world stage, Bush's approval rating, battered by a tanking economy and an unpopular, lingering war in Iraq, hovers just above all-time lows. A USA Today/Gallup poll released Wednesday indicates that, even with a 5-point "lame duck bounce" from last month, only 34 percent of Americans approve of the job he's doing as president.
Missed it, I wanted to see it, but only caught "GERD bless america" :lol:
I watched it, good to see. But he did have one point...what would we do different if we were in his shoes. I honestly don't know what I would do if I had the same information he had.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 16, 2009, 06:49:19 AM
I watched it, good to see. But he did have one point...what would we do different if we were in his shoes. I honestly don't know what I would do if I had the same information he had.
Very True. I won't even joke that I could handle that. But...I would hope I would admit it when I found out I made some errors, not just "stay the course" which was my issue. :)
Quote from: Peels660 on January 16, 2009, 06:54:18 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 16, 2009, 06:49:19 AM
I watched it, good to see. But he did have one point...what would we do different if we were in his shoes. I honestly don't know what I would do if I had the same information he had.
Very True. I won't even joke that I could handle that. But...I would hope I would admit it when I found out I made some errors, not just "stay the course" which was my issue. :)
But thats my point, if we had the info he had would we do the same. I even rethought some of my criticism of Clinton, a lot of our opinions are flushed from the media....left and right, but both wrong 90% of the time. Also the reason I'm putting all my trust in Obama.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 16, 2009, 06:56:59 AM
Quote from: Peels660 on January 16, 2009, 06:54:18 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 16, 2009, 06:49:19 AM
I watched it, good to see. But he did have one point...what would we do different if we were in his shoes. I honestly don't know what I would do if I had the same information he had.
Very True. I won't even joke that I could handle that. But...I would hope I would admit it when I found out I made some errors, not just "stay the course" which was my issue. :)
But thats my point, if we had the info he had would we do the same. I even rethought some of my criticism of Clinton, a lot of our opinions are flushed from the media....left and right, but both wrong 90% of the time. Also the reason I'm putting all my trust in Obama.
Well said... Catch ya on the other side, off to work.
Well I do not agree with the waterboarding to get info from those Jihad shitheads I am thinking maybe a tub full of gasoline since they own it all.
Quote from: fire raptor on January 16, 2009, 10:22:34 AM
Well I do not agree with the waterboarding to get info from those Jihad shitheads I am thinking maybe a tub full of gasoline since they own it all.
>:D Poetic Justice
Quote from: fire raptor on January 16, 2009, 10:22:34 AM
Well I do not agree with the waterboarding to get info from those Jihad shitheads I am thinking maybe a tub full of gasoline since they own it all.
I'm on the same page as you sir.
:lol:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 16, 2009, 10:24:24 AM
Quote from: fire raptor on January 16, 2009, 10:22:34 AM
Well I do not agree with the waterboarding to get info from those Jihad shitheads I am thinking maybe a tub full of gasoline since they own it all.
I'm on the same page as you sir.
:lol:
I got the tub, some ether, and a match. :lol:
I have Socals stick of furry.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 16, 2009, 10:26:32 AM
I have Socals stick of furry.
He's dyslexic.
Furry stick.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 16, 2009, 10:30:41 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 16, 2009, 10:26:32 AM
I have Socals stick of furry.
He's dyslexic.
Furry stick.
:lol:
~Brian
word..send E in to F**k them into submission! :lol:
I would dream about drilling holes in their knee caps and pouring sulfuric acid in there when I was in the Gulf. That, and fuckin' sheep. :thumbs:
Quote from: LittleBuddha on January 16, 2009, 10:34:04 AM
I would dream about drilling holes in their knee caps and pouring sulfuric acid in there when I was in the Gulf. That, and f :mad: ckin' sheep. :thumbs:
I get the acid part, but what is up with the sheep?
Quote from: Peels660 on January 16, 2009, 10:35:51 AM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on January 16, 2009, 10:34:04 AM
I would dream about drilling holes in their knee caps and pouring sulfuric acid in there when I was in the Gulf. That, and f :mad: ckin' sheep. :thumbs:
I get the acid part, but what is up with the sheep?
I was pretty bored in the gulf. And plus I wasn't in the Navy so dudes were outta the question. :confused:
Quote from: LittleBuddha on January 16, 2009, 10:39:10 AM
Quote from: Peels660 on January 16, 2009, 10:35:51 AM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on January 16, 2009, 10:34:04 AM
I would dream about drilling holes in their knee caps and pouring sulfuric acid in there when I was in the Gulf. That, and f :mad: ckin' sheep. :thumbs:
I get the acid part, but what is up with the sheep?
I was pretty bored in the gulf. And plus I wasn't in the Navy so dudes were outta the question. :confused:
:lol: Plus... "when in Rome....." :lol:
looks like you didn't get the job Brian...
http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,23483,24915986-5014090,00.html?from=public_rss
A WOMAN has tattooed a permanent advertisement for Queensland's Great Barrier Reef on her arm in her bid to score a $150,000 tropical island dream job.
More than 2000 jobseekers have joined the queue to become Hamilton Island's new caretaker.
Their 60-second video clips uploaded to Tourism Queensland's website islandreefjob.com show people from Mongolia, Romania, Turkey, Brazil and the Vatican bragging, begging and singing for the job.
A Queensland woman's clips shows her visiting a tattoo parlour to have a 10cm tattoo spruiking her love for the reef engraved on her arm.
Click on the video (right) to see Tegan's pitch.
A Greek woman promises to do laundry for every Australian if she gets the job.
A Swiss Olympian, 48-year-old ex-British Army session commander and Italian doctor are also keen for the job.
Related Coverage
Woman gets tattoo to win reef job
NEWS.com.au, 15 Jan 2009
Rush for dream job crashes website
NEWS.com.au, 14 Jan 2009
Flood of complaints after 'dream job' website crash
NEWS.com.au, 15 Jan 2009
Island dream job set to attract thousands
NEWS.com.au, 13 Jan 2009
Rush for dream job crashes website
NEWS.com.au, 14 Jan 2009
Your Say
They would have shown it taking place if it were real.
(Read More)
nm Dream job: Complaints after "best job" website crash
In-depth: All the latest travel news
The site had by this morning received four million hits with one million unique visits, the unprecedented rush causing it to crash on yesterday.
It's expected more than 10,000 will apply by the February 22 cut-off date.
The six-month stint will require the successful applicant to bunk in a luxury villa, explore neighbouring islands, swim, snorkel, discover wildlife, and the locals.
They will also blog - or brag - about their island adventures.
Applications are open until February 22 and 11 shortlisted candidates will be flown to Hamilton Island in early May for the final selection process.
An announcement will be made on May 6 with the contract beginning on July 1.
I'm not getting a tattoo, screw that!
~Brian
Got off the phone with Credit Union. Will be getting a 700 soon. And...local shop has an 07 SE2. Holy Crap! Gettin Excited. Worse case scenario, he has 2 white 06's . Booyah! Comes down to what I get for 660 and Fz1
Has the 07 gytr as well. And the 08 black se. As well as the gray ones, but I don't like those.
Early congratulations!
freakin awesome. Grats peelz!!! you're gonna be COOL now!!! :lol:
Suck it Trebeck.
660's 4 evah.
~Brian
Quote from: Krandall on January 16, 2009, 12:04:00 PM
freakin awesome. Grats peelz!!! you're gonna be COOL now!!! :lol:
Will I be as cool as Pat Robertson?
:poke: :lol: get it get it, huh? :lol:
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 16, 2009, 01:11:09 PM
Suck it Trebeck.
660's 4 evah.
~Brian
At least you'll always be quick in bed. :rofl:
Start and go!
~Brian
Circuit City Closing Shop:
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/patterson/33343
The troubled 60-year-old electronics chain tried its best to survive bankruptcy, but to no avail; now, it will liquidate its merchandise and close all 567 remaining stores.
Bloomberg reports that Circuit City Stores Inc. has hired a quartet of liquidators to sell off its existing merchandise, pending a green light from the courts. If everything goes according to plan, the fire sale will start Saturday and continue through the end of March, according to CNNMoney.com.
And unfortunately for Circuit City's 30,000+ employees, unemployment awaits.
The biggest consumer tech chain in the U.S. besides Best Buy, Circuit City filed for bankruptcy protection back in November. As Bloomberg notes, the struggling company had been looking for a buyer as late as Thursday, but failed to find any takers.
Of course, news of the Circuit City liquidation sale will draw plenty of bargain hunters, but (as I've blogged before), buyer beware.
Typically, closeout sales are final: no refunds or exchanges, so think twice before snapping up a big-ticket item like an HDTV. Also, keep in mind that closeout prices often aren't as rock-bottom low as you'd think; make sure to comparison shop online, and don't be fooled by big "75% OFF!" signs on items that have been marked up.
Finally ... a deep bow to Circuit City in general, where I've spent countless hours of browsing (and drooling)—and if nothing else, when it comes to tech retailers, less competition is never a good thing.
Gov't runs out of cash for DTV converter box coupons
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/patterson/32411;_ylt=AmmeFTddt8k7sqn55J8kZbgxLpA5
If you haven't applied for one of the $40 converter box coupons yet, you'll have to sign up on a waiting list—which already has tens of thousands of names on it. Will Congress come to the rescue?
The AP reports that the National Telecommunications and Information Administration, the agency that's handling the DTV converter box coupon program, has burned through its $1.34 billion budget for the coupons.
That's bad news for those over-the-air analog TV viewers who need help paying for a DTV converter box, but haven't yet applied for coupons—or did apply, but allowed their coupons to expire. (You can apply for up to two coupons per household.)
Meanwhile, the analog shutoff date is alarmingly close: February 17, 2009, to be exact.
Now, the news isn't all bad. Each DTV converter box coupon expires 90 days after it was issued, and the NTIA is estimating (according to the AP) that about 350,000 coupons will expire each week until (and through) the Feb. 17 deadline.
As those coupons expire, money is released back into the program, allowing those currently on the waiting list to get new coupons. Even so, officials warn that those on the waiting list probably won't get their coupons until after the deadline passes.
In the meantime, NTIA administrators are calling on Congress to approve more money or allow the department to issue new coupons without waiting for unused coupons to expire, according to the AP.
So, need a coupon but haven't applied yet? Well, get thee to DTV2009.gov and sign up ASAP, and check out our complete guide to the DTV transition.
The Circut City here went out of business here four years ago. Their customer service totally sucked.
~Brian
30-pound marijuana brick delivered to wrong address in Denton
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/yahoolatestnews/stories/011609dnmetdenton.5c376ef.html
UPS delivers, but not always to the right address, a Denton man discovered Monday when he found a lot of green inside a package dropped on his porch by the men in brown.
Also Online
More Denton news and resources
The man took the package to Denton police later that night, police spokesman Officer Ryan Grelle said. It contained a 30-pound brick of compressed marijuana with a street value of $10,500.
UPS mistakenly delivered it to the Denton house about 8 p.m., Grelle said. The resident was not at home at the time and opened it when he returned.
"He was expecting tools that he had ordered from Sears," Grelle said. "He opened it up and thought, 'Oh my.' He loaded it up and brought it to the police department."
Grelle said the package, which apparently came from Pharr, Texas, and was handled by a UPS branch in McAllen on Jan. 6, wasn't addressed to the Denton man on whose porch it landed. It carried an address in Dallas. But there was no such address in Dallas, so someone at the package delivery service decided it must be meant for a similar address in Denton, the officer said.
The case is still under investigation.
my wife bought one of those boxes with said coupon, and we don't even need it. :lol:
Brown f*cked up!
That was supposed to be on my doorstep!
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 16, 2009, 02:19:21 PM
Brown f*cked up!
That was supposed to be on my doorstep!
:lol:
~Brian
O Contraire mon freire. :lol:
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 16, 2009, 02:19:21 PM
Brown f*cked up!
That was supposed to be on my doorstep!
:lol:
~Brian
The only deliveries from brown you get are when Erich farts :lol:
That lucky bastard!
30 lbs of weed?
Holy shit!
Needless to say, I would be BAKED right about now.
~Brian
Some truly blessed SOBs!
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/17/usair.splash.video/index.html
On Inauguration Day tomorrow, all American women are asked to shave their pubes because......
NO MORE "BUSH"
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That's why the misses has been bare for eight years.
:lol:
~Brian
I respect and thank him for his service. I'm proud of all our presidents.
(http://www.buckfush.com/images/George_W_Bush_Legacy.jpg)
Now, GTFOML!
:lol:
~Brian
The economy will go up, and crash down. Thats just how it works, build it up till it breaks. George Bush was just the person standing when the music stopped. Nothing more, nothing less.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 20, 2009, 08:00:27 AM
The economy will go up, and crash down. Thats just how it works, build it up till it breaks. George Bush was just the person standing when the music stopped. Nothing more, nothing less.
I some-what agree with that, but the writing was on the wall. His economic team dropped the ball in my opinion. Greenspan even said it was coming. I do feel he could have been a much more pro-active.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 20, 2009, 08:04:55 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 20, 2009, 08:00:27 AM
The economy will go up, and crash down. Thats just how it works, build it up till it breaks. George Bush was just the person standing when the music stopped. Nothing more, nothing less.
I some-what agree with that, but the writing was on the wall. His economic team dropped the ball in my opinion. Greenspan even said it was coming. I do feel he could have been a much more pro-active.
~Brian
What could be done? The government is messy and is a huge tax expense. You don't want to get them involved in our free market economy until there is no choice....much like what they did. And then we have our uber smart American people, they didn't want to believe it was coming so the kept the blinder on and just kept on buying up houses at crazy prices at even crazier loans. Then they would cash any equity they had in their house plus at least 10% and blow it on new cars, truck and toys....even if they couldn't afford the rate after it adjusted. Or they really wanted that rail or nice boat so they took out a 30 YEAR note on it, trashed the boat for awhile and then dumped it back on the bank once things got bad. Not much anyone could do to stop this train wreck, sad....but it needed to happen.
I knew you dorks would take my joke and make it serious. :lol: Totally kidding.
Not to get into this mess again, but the current administration was responsible for relaxing lending practices that resulted in mass fraud in lending practices. Those practices forced the hand in inflated home prices with bogus values, especially in your former state California.
The mortgage crisis and the ongoing U.S. deficit crisis that has soared out of control under Bush's watch. The U.S. national debt is now over $9 trillion. That amounts to over $30,000 for every man, woman and child in the country. The ridiculous spending, along with an $80 billion dollar a month war has put you and I in this mess.
Did it need to happen? No. It just needed to stop! It would have never happened if it had not been allowed. Since it did happen, it's unfortunate that's the only way it was able to be stopped. That as you know came at the cost of investors, and millions of hard working Americans like you and I.
It's water under the bridge now, and we are all paying. I wish George and Laura well. I think she did a good job as the First Lady. She was a big advocate on literacy.
~Brian
It was not the current administration that relaxed the lending practices, that is false. Those where already in place.
Again, what could have been done to stop it? Sometimes the solution is as costly as the problem. And spending didn't change, every administration spending was out of control IMO, Bush is no different.
Again, the economy goes up and down, nothing you can do to change it and its a waste of time to try and blame someone for it.
And I agree about Laura, she was a great First lady.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/09/following-blagojevich-arr_n_149639.html
:grin_nod:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 20, 2009, 09:23:54 AM
It was not the current administration that relaxed the lending practices, that is false. Those where already in place.
Again, what could have been done to stop it? Sometimes the solution is as costly as the problem. And spending didn't change, every administration spending was out of control IMO, Bush is no different.
Again, the economy goes up and down, nothing you can do to change it and its a waste of time to try and blame someone for it.
And I agree about Laura, she was a great First lady.
This is where I strongly disagree with you. There were more home loans originated over the last eight years than any other time in history. If they were already in place, then we wouldn't have had a record number of foreclosures over the past eight years. It helped people like me, but the lending practices were too relaxed.
I agree, it's a waste of time to try to blame someone for it, but it should have never happened in the first place.
Anyone watching the innaguration?
~Brian
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 20, 2009, 09:29:22 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/09/following-blagojevich-arr_n_149639.html
:grin_nod:
:rofl:
FTW!
Hilarious.
~Brian
I'm watching it! :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
This just in:
Car jackings are at an all time low today in Washington, D.C..
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 20, 2009, 09:53:19 AM
This just in:
Car jackings are at an all time low today in Washington, D.C..
:lol:
~Brian
Damn, that was cold.
:lol:
:lol: :lol:
what the heck is that on Auretha Franklens Head. (however her name is spelt)
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 20, 2009, 09:37:00 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 20, 2009, 09:23:54 AM
It was not the current administration that relaxed the lending practices, that is false. Those where already in place.
Again, what could have been done to stop it? Sometimes the solution is as costly as the problem. And spending didn't change, every administration spending was out of control IMO, Bush is no different.
Again, the economy goes up and down, nothing you can do to change it and its a waste of time to try and blame someone for it.
And I agree about Laura, she was a great First lady.
This is where I strongly disagree with you. There were more home loans originated over the last eight years than any other time in history. If they were already in place, then we wouldn't have had a record number of foreclosures over the past eight years. It helped people like me, but the lending practices were too relaxed.
I agree, it's a waste of time to try to blame someone for it, but it should have never happened in the first place.
Anyone watching the innaguration?
~Brian
Thats an easy one. There were more homes originated over the last 8 years due to the great market and the huge amount of investors buying when times were good. This is also the reason there wasn't a record number of foreclosures. Times were good and people were just able to refinance if they got into a pinch.
And I just got done watching history. Truly breathtaking.
I may go buy a few magazines and newspapers now.
He's got a huge plate in front of him.
~Brian
When I was at the airport I saw 17 mags on the rack with his picture on the front of it. Funny, but true.
T-shirts portraying Obama in a superman costume dunking a basketball are going for $15. :lol:
Quote from: Peels660 on January 20, 2009, 11:13:28 AM
T-shirts portraying Obama in a superman costume dunking a basketball are going for $15. :lol:
I own one.
:lol:
Holla!
~Brian
Sen. Ted Kennedy suffered a seizure and was taken away by emergency medical personnel during President Obama's celebratory inaugural luncheon on Tuesday.
A Republican House leadership member told FOX News that Kennedy had a seizure at the end of the lunch, the seizure lasted a while. He was taken out on a wheelchair and had to have his legs lifted up to get him out of the room.
Last summer, the Massachusetts Democrat was diagnosed with a brain tumor.
A reporter said Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of Sen. John Kerry, helped Kennedy get into a reclining chair in which he was wheeled out in.
Must have had too much to drink.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 20, 2009, 01:23:11 PM
Sen. Ted Kennedy suffered a seizure and was taken away by emergency medical personnel during President Obama's celebratory inaugural luncheon on Tuesday.
A Republican House leadership member told FOX News that Kennedy had a seizure at the end of the lunch, the seizure lasted a while. He was taken out on a wheelchair and had to have his legs lifted up to get him out of the room.
Last summer, the Massachusetts Democrat was diagnosed with a brain tumor.
A reporter said Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of Sen. John Kerry, helped Kennedy get into a reclining chair in which he was wheeled out in.
Must have had too much to drink.
:lol:
~Brian
NOPE! Too little.... :lol:
He should be able to walk drunk because he sure could swim drunk!!
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama's first public act in office Wednesday was to institute new limits on lobbyists in his White House and to freeze the salaries of high-paid aides, in a nod to the country's economic turmoil.
Announcing the moves while attending a ceremony in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building to swear in his staff, Obama said the steps "represent a clean break from business as usual."
The pay freeze, first reported by The Associated Press, would hold salaries at their current levels for the roughly 100 White House employees who make over $100,000 a year. "Families are tightening their belts, and so should Washington," said the new president, taking office amid startlingly bad economic times that many fear will grow worse.
Those affected by the freeze include the high-profile jobs of White House chief of staff, national security adviser and press secretary. Other aides who work in relative anonymity also would fit into that cap if Obama follows a structure similar to the one George W. Bush set up.
Obama's new lobbying rules will not only ban aides from trying to influence the administration when they leave his staff. Those already hired will be banned from working on matters they have previously lobbied on, or to approach agencies that they once targeted.
The rules also ban lobbyists from giving gifts of any size to any member of his administration. It wasn't immediately clear whether the ban would include the traditional "previous relationships" clause, allowing gifts from friends or associates with which an employee comes in with strong ties.
The new rules also require that anyone who leaves his administration is not allowed to try to influence former friends and colleagues for at least two years. Obama is requiring all staff to attend to an ethics briefing like one he said he attended last week.
Obama called the rules tighter "than under any other administration in history." They followed pledges during his campaign to be strict about the influence of lobbyist in his White House.
"The new rules on lobbying alone, no matter how tough, are not enough to fix a broken system in Washington," he said. "That's why I'm also setting rules that govern not just lobbyists but all those who have been selected to serve in my administration."
In an attempt to deliver on pledges of a transparent government, Obama said he would change the way the federal government interprets the Freedom of Information Act. He said he was directing agencies that vet requests for information to err on the side of making information public — not to look for reasons to legally withhold it — an alteration to the traditional standard of evaluation.
Just because a government agency has the legal power to keep information private does not mean that it should, Obama said. Reporters and public-interest groups often make use of the law to explore how and why government decisions were made; they are often stymied as agencies claim legal exemptions to the law.
"For a long time now, there's been too much secrecy in this city," Obama said.
He said the orders he was issuing Wednesday will not "make government as honest and transparent as it needs to be" nor go as far as he would like.
"But these historic measures do mark the beginning of a new era of openness in our country," Obama said. "And I will, I hope, do something to make government trustworthy in the eyes of the American people, in the days and weeks, months and years to come."
~Brian
you know I was expecting a mass of Presidential Pardons from ole W......That's usually the norm for an outgoing president (IE H.W. Bush, and Clinton) ???
strange
As Governor he presided over 152 Texicutions. He is not the pardoning type of guy.
Quote from: fire raptor on January 21, 2009, 01:13:47 PM
As Governor he presided over 152 Texicutions. He is not the pardoning type of guy.
Not according to Wikipedia, he gave out 137 of them as governor
Pardons
James Leon Adams (1965 selling firearms to out of state residents and falsifying firearms records)[6]
Kristan Diane Bullock Akins (1990 Embezzlement by a bank employee)[7]
Charles James Allen (1979 conspiracy to defraud the United States. A former federal employee, Allen was convicted for approving payments to James Hilles Associates Inc., a Virginia firm, for office supplies that were never delivered. In return, Allen received car parts, a radio, a freezer and other gifts from the firm. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
William Thomas Alvis III (Possession of an unregistered firearm, distribution of cocaine)[8]
John Allen Aregood a/k/a Johnny (Sonny) Aregood (Conspiracy to harbor and transport illegal aliens)[8]
Tony Dale Ashworth (1989 unlawful transfer of a firearm)[6]
Alan Dale Austin (1987 misapplication of mortgage funds)[9]
William L. Baker (1980 falsifying records)[10]
William Sidney Baldwin Sr. (1981 conspiracy to possess marijuana. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Timothy Evans Barfield (1989 aiding and abetting false statements on a Small Business Administration loan application. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Bruce Louis Bartos (1987 transportation of a machine gun in foreign commerce)[11]
George Francis Bauckham (1958 unlawful detention or delay of the mail by a postal employee)[10]
David Thomas Billmyer (1978 military conviction for making a false claim)[12]
Eric Charles Blanke (Making impressions of obligations of the United States)[8]
James Allen (Albert) Bodendieck, Sr. (1959 interstate transportation of a stolen vehicle)[13][14]
Clyde Philip Boudreaux (1975 military conviction for borrowing money from enlisted men, accepting a noninterest-bearing loan from a government contractor and signing and swearing to a false affidavit. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Gene Armand Bridger (1963 Conspiracy to commit mail fraud, and mail fraud)[15]
Marie Georgette Ginette Briere (1982 possession of cocaine with intent to distribute)
Kenneth Charles Britt (1998 conspiracy to violate fish and wildlife laws)[10]
Jeffrey James Bruce (1994 possession of stolen mail)[13]
Charles Wayne Bryant (1962 theft of U.S. mail matter by employee)[13]
William Bruce Butt (1990 bank embezzlement)[10]
Mariano Garza Caballero (1984 dealing in firearms without a license)[10]
Carl E. Cantrell (1967 moonshining)[16]
Charles Winston Carter (1964 conspiracy to steal government property)[16]
Meredith Elizabeth Casares (1989 embezzlement of US Postal Service funds)[17]
Ronald William Cauley (1980 Misapplication of bank funds by an employee)[7]
Steve Doyle Cavender (Conspiring to import, possess, distribute and dispense marijuana; importing and causing to be imported marijuana; possessing marijuana with intent to distribute)[8]
Cathryn Iline Clasen-Gage (1992 Misprision of a felony)[15]
Leslie Owen Collier (unauthorized use of a pesticide and violating the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act)[2]
Thomas Kimble Collinsworth (1989 Receipt of a stolen motor vehicle that had been transported in interstate commerce)[15]
Charles Russell Cooper (1959 bootlegging) [9]
Milton Kirk Cordes (conspiracy to violate the Lacey Act, prohibiting importation into the country of wildlife taken in violation of conservation laws)[2]
Anthony John Curreri (1976 Mail fraud) [18]
Morris F. Cranmer, Jr. (1988 Making materially false statements to a federally-insured institution)[15]
Dale C. Critz, Jr. (1989 making a false statement)
Richard Micheal Culpepper (making false statements to the federal government)[2]
William Charles Davis (1983 income tax evasion)[12]
Randall Leece Deal (1960 and 1964 liquor laws)[6]
Brenda Jean Dolenz-Helmer (reporting or helping cover up a crime)[2]
Paul Jude Donnici (September 23, 1993) Use of a telephone in the transmission of wagering information [19]
William Henry Eagle (1972 moonshining)[6]
Mark Alan Eberwine (1985 conspiracy to defraud the United States by impeding, impairing, and obstructing the assessment of taxes by the Internal Revenue Service and making false declarations to the grand jury. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Rusty Lawrence Elliott (1991 Making counterfeit Federal Reserve notes)[15]
Marie Elena Eppens of Lynden, Wash. (conspiracy to distribute and to possess with intent to distribute marijuana)[8]
Robert Carter Eversole (1984 theft)[6]
Lydia Lee Ferguson of Sun City, Ariz. (conspiracy to distribute and to possess with intent to distribute marijuana)[8]
Gerald Douglas Ficke (1992 money laundering)[17]
Harper James Finucan (1980 marijuana possession with intent to distribute)[16]
Kenneth Clifford Foner (1991 bank fraud)[6]
Anthony Americo Franchi (1983 tax evasion)
Colin Earl Francis (1993 accepting a kickback of about $9,000 for helping a vendor for United Technologies Corp.'s Sikorsky Aircraft division, where Francis worked at the time, land a contract. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Victoria Diane Frost (1994 conspiracy to possess)[6]
William Grover Frye (1968 AWOL and 1973 sale of stolen car)[6]
Joseph Daniel Gavin (1979 military insubordination, drunkenness, threats, and other offenses) [9]
George Glenn (1956 accepting $50 bribe while in military)
Eduviges Duvi Gonzalez-Matsumura of Clovis, Calif. (aiding and abetting embezzlement of bank funds)[8]
George Clarence Greene Jr. (Mail fraud)[8]
Samuel Wattie Guerry (1984 food stamp fraud)[19]
Adam Wade Graham (1992 Conspiracy to deliver 10 or more grams of LSD)[15]
Charles E. Hamilton (1989 mail fraud)[19]
Stanley Bernard Hamilton 1990 (money order fraud)[6]
Brianna Lea Haney (1991 failure to report monetary instruments)[11]
Andrew Foster Harley (wrongful use and distribution of marijuana and cocaine)[2]
George Thomas Harley (1984 aiding and abetting the distribution of cocaine. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Rufus Edward Harris (1963 Possession and selling tax-unpaid whiskey)[15]
Jesse Ray Harvey (1990 Property damage by use of explosives and destruction of an energy facility)[15]
David Custer Heaston (1988 false statement)[11]
Melodie Jean Hebert (1984 defrauding U.S. with false claims)[6]
Obie Gene Helton (unauthorized acquisition of food stamps)[2]
Carey C. Hice Sr. (income tax evasion)[2]
Geneva Yvonne Hogg (bank embezzlement)[2]
Patricia Ann Hultman (1985 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute and to distribute cocaine and other controlled substances. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
James Won Hee Kang a/k/a Won Hee Kang (Trafficking in counterfeit goods)[8]
Bobby Frank Kay Sr. (1959 operation of an illegal distillery)[16]
James Ernest Kinard, Jr. (1984 fraudulent firearms dealer records)[6]
Richard Ardell Krueger (1979 mail fraud and 1980 and false statement on a loan application)[12]
Devin Timothy Kruse (1979 AWOL from Coast Guard)[6]
Margaret Ann Leggett (1981 false claims)
Raul Marin (1982 failure to appear in court) [9]
Larry Paul Lenius (1989 Conspiracy to distribute cocaine)[15]
Larry Lee Lopez (1985 Conspiracy to import marijuana)[15]
Alan Stephen Maiss (Misprision of a felony)[8]
Bobbie Archie Maxwell (1962 Mailing a threatening letter)[15]
David B. McCall, Jr. (1997 False entry in bank books and aiding and abetting)[20]
William Hoyle McCright Jr. (making false entries, books, reports or statements to a bank)[2]
Paul Julian McCurdy (misapplication of bank funds)[2]
Melvin L. McKee (1982 conspiracy to make false statements on a loan application)[16]
Charles McKinley, (1950 moonshining)[16]
Michael Mark McLaughlin (1983 mail fraud and conspiracy)[12]
Craven Wilford McLemore (1983 Conspiracy to defraud the United States and Caddo County) [18]
Denise Bitters Mendelkow (1981 Embezzlement by a bank employee)[15]
Richard Harold Miller (Conspiracy to defraud the United States)[8]
Michael Robert Moelter (1988 illegal gambling business)[11]
Robert Earl Mohon Jr. (conspiracy to distribute marijuana)[2]
Billie Curtis Moore (1977 income tax evasion)[12]
Ronald Alan Mohrhoff (unlawful use of a telephone in a narcotics felony)[2]
Richard Arthur Morse (1963 transportation of a stolen vehicle)[17]
Gerard Murphy (1972 car theft)[6]
Kenneth Lynn Norris (1993 unlawful disposal of hazardous waste)[19]
Delano Abraham Nixon (Forging the endorsement on a U.S. Treasury check)[8]
Joseph Mathew Novak (1994 possession and transfer of an illegal weapon)[6]
Eric William Olson (1984 military conviction for conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute, possession with intent to distribute, possession, and use of hashish. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Glanus Terrell Osborne (1990 possessing a stolen motor vehicle)[14]
John H. Overholt (Concealment of information affecting Social Security benefits)[8]
Morris Keith Parker (Misprision of a felony)[8]
Donald Lee Pendergrass (1964 armed bank robbery)[16]
Fred Dale Pitzer (1976 transportation of falsely made securities)[17]
Charles Blurford Power (1948 transportation of a stolen vehicle)[16]
Michael John Pozorski (1988 Unlawful possession of an unregistered firearm)[15]
Daniel Figh Pue III (illegal treatment, storage and disposal of a hazardous waste without a permit)[2]
Robert Truman Reece (Unauthorized absence,missing ship's movement)[8]
Thomas R. Reece (1969 violating the Internal Revenue Code pertaining to alcohol. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
James Edward Reed (1975 marijuana possession with intent to distribute)[12]
Cecil John Rhodes (1981 false statement on a loan application)[17]
John Louis Ribando (1976 and 1978 marijuana dealing)[6]
Donald Edward Roessler (Embezzlement of mail matter)[8]
Larry Gene Ross (1989 making false statements in a bank loan application. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Ernest Rudnet (1992 conspiracy to file false tax returns) [9]
Gary L. Saltzburg (1995 theft of government property) [9]
John Gregory Schillace (1988 conspiracy to possess cocaine for distribution)[16]
Russell Don Sell (1995 aiding and abetting a false statement on a loan application)[17]
Scott LaVerne Sparks (1989 theft of government property)[12]
Wendy St. Charles (1984 conspiracy to trade narcotics and cocaine distribution)[16]
David Lloyd St. Croix (1989 disposal of stolen explosives)[9]
Jearld David Swanner (1991 making false statements in a bank loan application. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
James Walter Taylor (1991 bank fraud. Pardoned December 21, 2006)
Johnson Heyward Tisdale (1994 food stamp fraud)[19]
Issac Robert Toussie (False statements to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, mail fraud; revoked one day later[irt 1][21])[8]
Edward Rodriguez Trevino, Jr. (1997 theft, convicted in military court)[6]
Janet Theone Upton (1975 mail fraud. pardoned December 21, 2006)
Orion Lynn Vick (aiding and abetting the theft of government property)[2]
Jerry Dean Walker (1989 cocaine distribution)[6]
Joseph William Warner (1995 arson on an Indian reservation)[9]
Mark Lewis Weber (1981 Selling Quaalude tablets, selling, using, and possessing marijuana )[15]
Roger Charles Weber (1969 Theft from an interstate shipment)[7]
David Lane Woolsey (Aiding and abetting violation of the Archaeological Resources Protection Act)[8]
^ Issac Robert Toussie (False statements to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, mail fraud) George W. Bush has revoked his pardon after discovering Issac Robert Toussie's father donated USD $28,500 to the Republican Party in April.
He commuted two sentences on his last day in office.
Two border patrol agents. Their records were not wiped clean, he just let them out of prison.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 21, 2009, 01:21:50 PM
He commuted two sentences on his last day in office.
Two border patrol agents. Their records were not wiped clean, he just let them out of prison.
~Brian
Still in comparison to his dad's Iran contra connection and Clinton's whitewater that's not much. For a guy leaving as the least popular president in history, he honored his postion by not "playing to the band" as it were.
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 21, 2009, 01:24:26 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 21, 2009, 01:21:50 PM
He commuted two sentences on his last day in office.
Two border patrol agents. Their records were not wiped clean, he just let them out of prison.
~Brian
Still in comparison to his dad's Iran contra connection and Clinton's whitewater that's not much. For a guy leaving as the least popular president in history, he honored his postion by not "playing to the band" as it were.
The tow agents were imprisoned for shooting two illegals, and they were just doing their job. Very contreversial case in court. Bush did pardon a few others in his last two weeks too, but I haven't read much on those.
~Brian
I would let all the white supremacists go.
JK
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 21, 2009, 01:28:28 PM
I would let all the white supremacists go.
JK
Naw leave Sam Rambo in there :rofl:
:lol:
SamRambo.. that was fun. :lol:
We should send him an invite to raptorsource
I was just looking at his capitol crime record for Texas. I could care less about white collar and Pot trafficking. Fry the killers,child molesters and rapers.
Quote from: fire raptor on January 21, 2009, 01:58:28 PM
I was just looking at his capitol crime record for Texas. I could care less about white collar and Pot trafficking. Fry the killers,child molesters and rapers.
I'll throw the switch :thumbs:
Aaron gets my vote to do so.
He knows beauty is only a lightswitch away.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 21, 2009, 02:31:16 PM
Aaron gets my vote to do so.
He knows beauty is only a lightswitch away.
:lol:
~Brian
Funny that your wife has the same expertise :bird:
:lol:
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 21, 2009, 02:44:55 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 21, 2009, 02:31:16 PM
Aaron gets my vote to do so.
He knows beauty is only a lightswitch away.
:lol:
~Brian
Funny that your wife has the same expertise :bird:
:lol:
:owned:
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 21, 2009, 02:44:55 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 21, 2009, 02:31:16 PM
Aaron gets my vote to do so.
He knows beauty is only a lightswitch away.
:lol:
~Brian
Funny that your wife has the same expertise :bird:
:lol:
At least my wife doesn't have an Adam's apple.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 21, 2009, 02:50:11 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on January 21, 2009, 02:44:55 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 21, 2009, 02:31:16 PM
Aaron gets my vote to do so.
He knows beauty is only a lightswitch away.
:lol:
~Brian
Funny that your wife has the same expertise :bird:
:lol:
At least my wife doesn't have an Adam's apple.
:lol:
~Brian
how would you know? the lights are always off :lol:
Damn this sounds just like a Fire station.
Quote from: fire raptor on January 21, 2009, 03:06:03 PM
Damn this sounds just like a Fire station.
without the half naked guys sliding down the poles :confused:
<Krandall is now aroused>
:lol:
Try completly naked with grease on the pole!!!
Quote from: fire raptor on January 21, 2009, 03:09:10 PM
Try completly naked with grease on the pole!!!
<Krandall's touching himself>
Scientist: New fault could mean major Ark. temblor
Good luck brian. :help:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090122/ap_on_re_us/arkansas_earthquakes
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. – A previously unknown fault in eastern Arkansas could trigger a magnitude 7 earthquake with an epicenter near a major natural gas pipeline, a scientist said Wednesday. Haydar Al-Shukri, the director of the Arkansas Earthquake Center at the University of Arkansas at Little Rock, said the fault is separate from the New Madrid fault responsible for a series of quakes in 1811-12 that caused the Mississippi River to flow backward.
Acres of cotton fields cover the fault west of Marianna, about 100 miles east of Little Rock, but stretches of fine sand mixed with fertile soil gave away the fault's location, Al-Shukri said. Liquefied sand bubbled up through cracks in the earth, while ground radar and digs showed vents that let the sand reach the surface, he said.
The fault, likely created in the last 5,000 years, sparked at least one magnitude 7 earthquake in its history. Such temblors cause massive destruction in their wake.
"This is a very, very dangerous (area) at risk of earthquake," Al-Shukri said. "When you talk about (magnitude) 7 and plus, this is going to be a major disaster."
Al-Shukri did not identify a time frame for the potential earthquake.
Such a quake would affect Little Rock and neighboring states such as Tennessee and Mississippi, Al-Shukri said.
The researcher has said a gas pipeline crossed the newly discovered fault. He declined to name the company that owned the pipeline. Al-Shukri had said in a speech at the University of Arkansas' Clinton School of Public Service that the company was building a large line through the area, mirroring the old one's path.
A map made by the Arkansas Public Service Commission shows an Arkla Energy Resources pipe in the area. A spokeswoman for CenterPoint Energy Inc., which owns Arkla, said Wednesday that the company worked closely with public officials to prepare response plans for earthquakes and other natural disasters.
Pipes are "all over the place," spokeswoman Rebecca Virden said. "We, CenterPoint Energy, or someone else has a pipeline everywhere."
Carl Weimer, executive director of the Pipeline Safety Trust in Bellingham, Wash., said companies with lines running through earthquake-prone Southern California have extra safety features including "more valves and different types of valves in case something happens and the pipeline can be shut off quicker."
Clint Stephens, the chief of pipeline safety at the commission, said the federal government would oversee any interstate lines. The U.S. Department of Transportation's Office of Pipeline Safety did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Hundreds of earthquakes occur each year, including several in Arkansas. Most Arkansas earthquakes occur in the state's northeast corner in the New Madrid Seismic Zone, but Al-Shukri said the Marianna fault was not connected because it was too far from the temblors caused by that zone.
During the winter of 1811 and 1812, a series of three earthquakes with magnitudes of around 8 struck the zone and much smaller temblors continue to hit today.
I heard about this....crazy.
I'm about 160 miles west of Little Rock. In school, we learned about the New Madrid Fault. It is in the far north western part of the state. There was a big earthquake in 1812 that caused the Misssissippi to flow backwards for a short time. That's STRONG!
Current earth quake map: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsus/
~Brian
I hate this piece of shit.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011609/content/01125113.guest.html
"I hope Obama fails."
His 15 minutes of fame has expired a long time ago.
~Brian
I hate far right as much as I hate far left.
Rush will spew his hate towards anyone that is left of his radical views. However he will never mention his drug dealings with Oxycontin. He is a nut case radical. I hope any President that this country has elected does well and does NOT fail. PS i am a Republican.
Quote from: fire raptor on January 22, 2009, 09:32:05 AM
Rush will spew his hate towards anyone that is left of his radical views. However he will never mention his drug dealings with Oxycontin. He is a nut case radical. I hope any President that this country has elected does well and does NOT fail. PS i am a Republican.
+1 I am very conservative but as soon as President Obama was elected I put up a thread saying we all need to stand behind our new president.
I remember. Also I remember some turd ball that got banned for hateful remarks. As it should be. We as a nation must not fail!!
Yup, that was also the point of the thread, to let everyone know that we will not put up with racist hate here. Leave that to other forums.
Rush is a douche.
~Brian
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama began overhauling U.S. treatment of terror suspects Thursday, signing orders to close the Guantanamo Bay detention center, shut down secret overseas CIA prisons, review military war crimes trials and ban the harshest interrogation methods.
With his action, Obama started changing how the United States prosecutes and questions al-Qaida, Taliban or other foreign fighters who pose a threat to Americans — and overhauling America's image abroad, battered by accusations of the use of torture and the indefinite detention of suspects at the Guantanamo prison in Cuba.
"The message that we are sending the world is that the United States intends to prosecute the ongoing struggle against violence and terrorism and we are going to do so vigilantly and we are going to do so effectively and we are going to do so in a manner that is consistent with our values and our ideals," the president said.
The centerpiece order would close the much-maligned Guantanamo facility within a year, a complicated process with many unanswered questions that was nonetheless a key campaign promise of Obama's. The administration already has suspended trials for terrorist suspects at Guantanamo for 120 days pending a review of the military tribunals.
In the other actions, Obama:
_Created a task force to recommend policies on handling terror suspects who are detained in the future. Specifically, the group would look at where those detainees should be housed since Guantanamo is closing.
_Required all U.S. personnel to follow the U.S. Army Field Manual while interrogating detainees. The manual explicitly prohibits threats, coercion, physical abuse and waterboarding, a technique that creates the sensation of drowning and has been termed a form of torture by critics. However, a Capitol Hill aide says that the administration also is planning a study of more aggressive interrogation methods that could be added to the Army manual — which would create a significant loophole to Obama's action Thursday.
"We believe that the Army Field Manual reflects the best judgment of our military, that we can abide by a rule that says we don't torture, but that we can still effectively obtain the intelligence that we need," Obama said. He said his action reflects an understanding that "we are willing to observe core standards of conduct, not just when it's easy, but also when it's hard."
A task force will study whether other interrogation guidelines — beyond what's spelled out in the Army manual — are necessary for intelligence professionals in dealing with terror suspects.
But an Obama administration official said that provision should not be considered a loophole that will allow controversial "enhanced interrogation techniques" to be re-introduced. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to speak candidly about the administration's thinking.
The order also orders the CIA to close all its existing detention facilities abroad for terror suspects — and prohibits those prisons from being used in the future. The agency has used those secret "black site" prisons around the world to question terror suspects.
_Directed the Justice Department to review the case of Qatar native Ali al-Marri, who is the only enemy combatant currently being held on U.S. soil. The directive will ask the high court for a stay in al-Marri's appeals case while the review is ongoing. The government says al-Marri is an al-Qaida sleeper agent.
An estimated 245 men are being held at the U.S. naval base in Cuba, most of whom have been detained for years without being charged with a crime. Among the sticky issues the Obama administration has to resolve are where to put those detainees — whether back in their home countries or at other federal detention centers — and how to prosecute some of them for war crimes.
"We intend to win this fight. We're going to win it on our terms," Obama said as he signed three executive orders and a presidential directive.
The administration official said Obama's government will not transfer detainees to countries that will mistreat them, including their own home country.
In his first Oval Office signing ceremony, Obama was surrounded by retired senior military leaders. He described them as outstanding Americans who have defended the country — and its ideals.
Story via Yahoo news (Associated Press).
~Brian
Damn, I'm busted.
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/117622
Face to face with the worst economic crisis to face the nation in decades, our leaders are hard at work trying to come to America's aid. The latest legislative salvo? A bill that would require cameraphones to make a sound "audible within a reasonable radius of the phone whenever a photograph is taken with the camera in such phone."
The bill, called the Camera Phone Predator Alert Act, is the brainchild of New York's Peter King, and it's a response to the continued popularity of voyeuristic photos snapped on the sly by those darn kids. King specifically cites adolescents being spied upon "in dressing rooms and public places" in the draft of the bill.
As well, Wired notes that a similar law is already on the books in Japan, where such behavior is practically a national pastime.
But, as Wired also notes, the prospects for King's stateside bill doesn't look entirely rosy. He has no co-sponsor for the action and, a smattering of press reports aside, there hasn't been much interest in the legislation at all.
One supposes that Congress may have other matters at the top of its mind right now than phone-wielding peeping Toms. Just a hunch.
I'll still take mullet pictures.
~Brian
No more train pictures or chicks going down on a pickle at supercross.
Sure, just cough when you take them. Disguse the sound.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on January 27, 2009, 12:37:23 PM
Sure, just cough when you take them. Disguse the sound.
~Brian
Or moan.
just bust the speaker
I didn't disguise it at all. :lol:
what a waste of time.
For Brian:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/01/congress-gets-bill-to-make-cell-phone-cameras-go-click.ars
Congress gets bill to make cell phone cameras go click
Here is a proposed law that we know Ars Technica readers will just love. It's the Camera Phone Predator Alert Act (H.R. 414), introduced into Congress this month by Representative Peter King, Republican of New York. The bill's text says that Congress has found that "children and adolescents have been exploited by photographs taken in dressing rooms and public places with the use of a camera phone."
What's King's solution? One year after the passage of the Alert Act, all mobiles with cameras made in the United States must emit a "tone or other sound audible within a reasonable radius of the phone." And the legislation would forbid manufacturers to program an option that would allow consumers to disable the noise.
Matthew Lasar
Report reignites fight over special access rates
Nielsen: >6 million households still not ready for DTV day
Copps named interim chair of the FCC
Verizon does 180, says it now supports a DTV delay
If King's proposal was actually enacted into law and signed by the President, it would be enforced by the Consumer Product Safety Commission, whose staff would have to figure out what kind of "tone or other sound" to force manufacturers to hotwire into their devices. The CPSC would also have to determine the aforementioned "reasonable radius."
Ars thinks that if Congress is actually going to take this bill seriously, at least consumers should be able to select the sound. This might prove to be popular with youngsters. As Jacqui Cheng has reported, a recent survey of over a thousand teenagers and young adults (13 through 26) revealed that a fifth of the teens queried have posted a digital photo or video of themselves in their complete or partial birthday suits on the Internet. A third of the latter group have done the same. These pix tend to get sent to boyfriends and girlfriends, or in some instances friends and admirers.
No doubt these kids would enjoy being able to choose a ringtone to associate with their cell phone camera shutter. Various tunes come to mind, including Britney Spears' E-mail my heart or R.E.M.'s Camera--something along those lines. But, of course, any self-respecting teenage exhibitionist would find these suggestions annoying. They should be able to choose their own clip.
As for politicians and parents who are worried about surreptitious cell phone camera users lurking around in dressing rooms and parks, they might want to, well, watch their children. Just a thought.
Don't hold your breath waiting for this proposal to catch on. King's bill is currently lodged in the House Energy and Commerce Committee. It has no cosponsors.
:rolleyes: :lol:
E posted that earlier.......I'm thinking that sucks!
~Brian
Can't you read krandall....dumb ass.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 27, 2009, 07:15:48 PM
Can't you read krandall....dumb ass.
only reads basic programming commands.
A lady in Los Angeles has 8 babies . Just down the road a father murders his 5 kids and wife then shoots himself. F-----g world is crazy.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 27, 2009, 07:15:48 PM
Can't you read krandall....dumb ass.
didn't see it on the last 3 pages. Didn't think it was up.. sorrrrrrrrrrry... :confused:
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on January 27, 2009, 07:16:57 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on January 27, 2009, 07:15:48 PM
Can't you read krandall....dumb ass.
only reads basic programming commands.
101011111001010100101010110001010101001010100101010100101010010011001010000100110010010101010100110010101001000101011100010101001010001010010101010
there, now he's good to go!
:lol:
Poor krandall
NBC Bans PETA's Lingerie ad from Super Bowl air time:
http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/01/nbc-bans-petas-super-bowl-ad.html
go there to see the vid:
Animal rights group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals claims NBC is refusing to air its rather provocative Super Bowl ad.
The PETA ad "Veggie Love" has lingerie models frolicking amid broccoli and pumpkins with a tagline saying that "Studies Show Vegetarians Have Better Sex."
PETA says NBC's vp advertising standards Victoria Morgan rejected the ad because it "depicts a level of sexuality exceeding our standards."
Adds an NBC spokesperson: "The ad was rejected because it did not conform with our standards."
This means NBC is refusing to air an ad promoting a healthy diet, yet Budweiser will be the top Bowl advertiser for the ninth year running.
Of course, for PETA, being banned is arguably just as effective publicity as NBC actually airing its Super Bowl ad -- and a heckuva lot cheaper, too. Sources say NBC suspects the ad was deliberately created to be rejected by the network ("they knew this would never fly," one insider says).
Video and NBC's list of suggested edits after the jump.
PETA asked NBC what it would take for the commercial to air. NBC suggested the following cuts be made:
:12- :13- licking pumpkin
:13- :14- touching her breast with her hand while eating broccoli
:19- pumpkin from behind between legs
:21- rubbing pelvic region with pumpkin
:22- screwing herself with broccoli (fuzzy)
:23- asparagus on her lap appearing as if it is ready to be inserted into vagina
:26- licking eggplant
:26- rubbing asparagus on breast
all the things you do in your free time Krandall?
-rubbing asparagus on breast...
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on January 28, 2009, 09:16:04 AM
all the things you do in your free time Krandall?
-rubbing asparagus on breast...
love me a sexy pumpkin. :lol:
Please don't say that. I have been in a pumpkin patch with you. Now I feel wet and cheap.
Quote from: vern burny on January 28, 2009, 09:56:29 AM
Please don't say that. I have been in a pumpkin patch with you. Now I feel wet and cheap.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Hopin you'd see that. :clap: :clap:
YOU know what I'm talking about! :lol: :grin_nod: :grin_nod:
http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/Road_signs_warn_of_zombies
You guys wouldn't happen to know anything about this would ya. ??? LOL!! :clap:
no..... :lol: http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?topic=3431.0
Damned ZOmbies. ALways delaying traffic and $hit! :lol:
Kodak to cut up to 4,500 jobs
Very glad I decided not to work for them. I am still just a customer. All my technicians are running around freaking out wondering who's head will roll. Scary stuff.
story via Reuters
NEW YORK (Reuters) - Eastman Kodak Co posted a sharp quarterly loss and said it would cut up to 4,500 jobs this year after suffering a dramatic decline in demand for digital cameras and commercial printing equipment.
The report sent shares of Kodak down 25 percent to a historical low, making the company one of the biggest percentage losers on the New York Stock Exchange on Thursday.
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE50S3FP20090129
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_fire
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/odd_drunken_riding
:grin_nod: Lookey lookey! ??? Ima call the PoPo on you guys! :grin_nod:
http://www.theindychannel.com/news/18620871/detail.html
omfg...... :jaw:
What are the chances it means the quad and not the dinosaur. :jaw:
Im dyin' ova' here!!!!!!!!
That would be only be better, if A Raptor was in the pic driving by the sign!
Maybe it was Dick84? :lol:
Disclaimer: RaptorSource is not accountable for any of it's members actions. :lol:
Quote from: Krandall on February 02, 2009, 10:38:39 AM
Disclaimer: RaptorSource is not accountable for any of it's members actions. :lol:
Bull$hit! I f we go down, you are going down with us. :lol:
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on February 02, 2009, 10:41:14 AM
Quote from: Krandall on February 02, 2009, 10:38:39 AM
Disclaimer: RaptorSource is not accountable for any of it's members actions. :lol:
Bull$hit! I f we go down, you are going down with us. :lol:
You tried convincing us w/ the Meth peels.. not gonna work..... :rolleyes: :lol:
Quote from: Krandall on February 02, 2009, 10:42:09 AM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on February 02, 2009, 10:41:14 AM
Quote from: Krandall on February 02, 2009, 10:38:39 AM
Disclaimer: RaptorSource is not accountable for any of it's members actions. :lol:
Bull$hit! I f we go down, you are going down with us. :lol:
You tried convincing us w/ the Meth peels.. not gonna work..... :rolleyes: :lol:
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
:lol: Don't come crying to me when you need a pick me up then. :rofl:
Quote from: double06 on January 29, 2009, 07:59:17 AM
http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/Road_signs_warn_of_zombies
You guys wouldn't happen to know anything about this would ya. ??? LOL!! :clap:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: that is epic. cod wow ftw!!!
SEOUL (AFP) – A dogged South Korean grandmother has failed her driving test 771 times, police said Thursday, but a local newspaper reported she will keep trying.
The 68-year-old, identified only by her last name Cha, has taken the test almost every working day since 2005 in the southwestern city of Jeonju. She failed again Monday for the 771st time.
"It was a record-breaking number here," Choi Yong-Cheol, a police sergeant supervising the test in the city's Deokjingu district, told AFP.
"I wonder if she will try it again for a 772nd time."
The Korea Times said Cha will in fact be back for another attempt.
Choi said that Cha cannot pass the preliminary written section of the test, averaging scores of 30-50 whereas the pass mark is 60 out of 100.
Local media said that Cha sells food and household items door to door at apartment complexes, carrying the items in a handcart, but wants to get a car for her business.
Police estimate she has spent almost five million won (3,600 dollars) to take the written test, with each test costing 6,000 won in addition to other expenses.
"I feel sorry every time I see Cha fail. When she passes, I'll make a commemorative tablet myself and give it to her," one officer was quoted as saying.
Story via the AP.
~Brian
Aaron? ??? ??? ??? ???
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090205/ap_on_fe_st/odd_klingon_robbery;_ylt=AojFHqTeJmcK31z.UeuQIyztiBIF
Man boldly robs Colo. store with Star Trek sword
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. – Colorado police say a man with too much "Star Trek" on his mind used a sword modeled after the weapon carried by Klingon warriors to demand money from two convenience stores.
Investigators say the man took an unknown amount of cash from a 7-Eleven store Wednesday but left empty-handed when he tried to rob another store about 25 minutes later.
Police Lt. David Whitlock says no one was injured.
The StarTrek.com Web site says the double-pointed sword used by the Klingons on "Star Trek" is crescent-shaped and about a yard long. Police did not specify what material it was made of.
No one has been charged in the incident.
How do you say "give me th money motherf**ker" in Klingon? :lol:
Peels with the post of the day!
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 05, 2009, 08:47:16 AM
Peels with the post of the day!
:lol:
~Brian
2 in a row...."KA-CHOW" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Not by any means breaking news... BUT... It's a really good interview from Time magazine w/ Ron Jeremy
Brian, this is for you as I know you're the connoisseur (CHECK THAT PEELS!)
Ron Jeremy: My Life as a Porn Star
http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1836153-1,00.html
Awesome find!!!!
I've actually met Ron at a TKE party on the campus of Southwest Missouri State back in the mid 90's. Very funny guy. Total suprise. He is an honorary TKE member, and was in town on his way to St. Louis. I was at a party with a friend of mine that lived in the frat house. Totally unexpected.
~Brian
I think my wife met him at one of her old Company annual meetings. He invited all of the execs to a party at his hotel. They all politely declined. :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 05, 2009, 09:08:17 AM
Awesome find!!!!
I've actually met Ron at a TKE party on the campus of Southwest Missouri State back in the mid 90's. Very funny guy. Total suprise. He is an honorary TKE member, and was in town on his way to St. Louis. I was at a party with a friend of mine that lived in the frat house. Totally unexpected.
~Brian
that's cool, I've never read much about him, but based on the interview, he seems like a pretty genuine person. :thumbs:
Quote from: Krandall on February 05, 2009, 09:14:34 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 05, 2009, 09:08:17 AM
Awesome find!!!!
I've actually met Ron at a TKE party on the campus of Southwest Missouri State back in the mid 90's. Very funny guy. Total suprise. He is an honorary TKE member, and was in town on his way to St. Louis. I was at a party with a friend of mine that lived in the frat house. Totally unexpected.
~Brian
that's cool, I've never read much about him, but based on the interview, he seems like a pretty genuine person. :thumbs:
Genuinely disgusting :lol:
did you read it peels.... :confused:
I remember him talking about the family name, and how his dad was really pissed at him. He told us a story about this movie he did where he rolled around in a vat of spagehetti noodles, and had sex with some heavy set woman. It was funny, and then I found the clip.
It was not funny.
:lol:
Ron also had the ability to suck his own. No shit. Yeah, he admitted it. This drunk dude came up and asked him if he could still suck his own d*ck, and he said "No, not since I gained 70lbs. and met your girlfriend."
I about DIED.
~Brian
Quote from: Krandall on February 05, 2009, 09:21:16 AM
did you read it peels.... :confused:
Yes, I am kidding around. :lol: I can't stand looking at him. I have seen him do some nasty stuff, and I can't get past that. sorry. Don't care that he likes to hang glide. Better judgement went away a la' nailing a overweight chick in pasta. :rofl:
Brian ERMAHGERD, mentioned same thing in your post :rofl:
:rofl:
That's awesome. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I can say I haven't seen any of his productions.. So I must be missing out. :lol:
Quote from: Krandall on February 05, 2009, 09:32:06 AM
:rofl:
That's awesome. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I can say I haven't seen any of his productions.. So I must be missing out. :lol:
umm yeah, "missing out" :lol:
You've gotta see a Hedgehog movie. At least once.
The old ones were pretty funny, but the ones where he is grossly over weight are just not right.
Oh, and Randy. I will be sending you a snippet.
:lol:
~Brian
:puke:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090204/ap_on_re_eu/eu_russia_killing
Prosecutors: Russian girl's killers ate body parts
ST. PETERSBURG, Russia – Two young men — one of them a butcher — have been arrested on suspicion of killing a 16-year-old girl and eating parts of her body, Russian prosecutors said Wednesday.
The girl disappeared after leaving her home in St. Petersburg for school on Jan. 19, city prosecutor's spokesman Sergei Kapitonov said. He said she was killed that night, and that body parts believed to be hers were found in plastic bags scattered around the city.
Police arrested Yuri Mozhnov, a florist, and Maxim Golovatskikh, a street-market butcher and one-time psychiatric patient on Saturday, Kapitonov said.
The suspects, both 19, knew the victim, and she accompanied them voluntarily to an apartment rented by another acquaintance on the day she went missing, Kapitonov said. Prosecutors believe they drowned the girl in a bathtub.
"The arrestees said they ate the girl's body parts because they were hungry," Kapitonov said. They told investigators they baked some body parts with potatoes, he said.
They allegedly disposed of her bagged remains in garbage containers and bodies of water. Bags with body parts were found in at least two locations, he said. Both men are being held on suspicion of murder.
St. Petersburg news Web site fontanka.ru cited a top city prosecutor, Andrei Lavrenko, as saying investigators believe the suspects decided to kill the victim after an argument erupted between her and Golovatskikh.
Moscow-based tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda on Wednesday cited a department head at the St. Petersburg forensic medicine office, Vitaly Sysoyev, as saying the body parts had not been positively identified as those of the girl, who he said was still officially listed as missing.
Kapitonov said he was unaware of that.
Lavrenko said investigators found traces of blood when they ripped out plumbing and floorboards in the apartment, fontanka.ru reported.
Mozhnov was convicted of robbery in 2005, Kapitonov said. He said Golovatskikh had been treated in the past at a psychiatric hospital.
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 05, 2009, 09:38:29 AM
You've gotta see a Hedgehog movie. At least once.
The old ones were pretty funny, but the ones where he is grossly over weight are just not right.
Oh, and Randy. I will be sending you a snippet.
:lol:
~Brian
oh dear. :lol:
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on February 05, 2009, 09:39:37 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 05, 2009, 09:38:29 AM
You've gotta see a Hedgehog movie. At least once.
The old ones were pretty funny, but the ones where he is grossly over weight are just not right.
Oh, and Randy. I will be sending you a snippet.
:lol:
~Brian
oh dear. :lol:
Whata guy. :lol: :lol:
You want one too?
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 05, 2009, 09:41:26 AM
You want one too?
:lol:
~Brian
no thanks :lol:
Did I ever tell you who Nichole used to work for?
fluffer?
CRAFTSMAN PATRIOT 35CC OBAMA CHANGE SAW CHAINSAW LOOK!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/CRAFTSMAN-PATRIOT-35CC-OBAMA-CHANGE-SAW-CHAINSAW-LOOK_W0QQitemZ170299808789QQihZ007QQcategoryZ20538QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/CRAFTSMAN-PATRIOT-35CC-OBAMA-CHANGE-SAW-CHAINSAW-LOOK_W0QQitemZ170299808789QQihZ007QQcategoryZ20538QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
get your obama change saw before they run out!!
Quote from: scurry57 on February 05, 2009, 10:53:05 AM
CRAFTSMAN PATRIOT 35CC OBAMA CHANGE SAW CHAINSAW LOOK!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/CRAFTSMAN-PATRIOT-35CC-OBAMA-CHANGE-SAW-CHAINSAW-LOOK_W0QQitemZ170299808789QQihZ007QQcategoryZ20538QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/CRAFTSMAN-PATRIOT-35CC-OBAMA-CHANGE-SAW-CHAINSAW-LOOK_W0QQitemZ170299808789QQihZ007QQcategoryZ20538QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
get your obama change saw before they run out!!
:rofl: :clap: :clap: :clap:
That's funny!
funny stuff right there!
Leave it to a redneck from Tennessee to come up with that :rofl:
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 05, 2009, 09:56:45 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on February 05, 2009, 09:49:22 AM
fluffer?
:rofl:
Good one!
No Peels, who?
~Brian
:lol: stfu E!
Nation's largest Adult Entertainment distributor/franchise based in Chicago. I think they owned over 100 stores, she was regional manager. :lol:
They even had a distribution center. It was awesome.
That would be a fun job! Hard to tell the people at church what you do, but a fun job!
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 05, 2009, 11:03:49 AM
That would be a fun job! Hard to tell the people at church what you do, but a fun job!
:lol:
~Brian
It was difficult after we had the kids, for sure. Glad she left. It was funny as hell when we had pre marriage church counseling. Minister mentioned porn, and we were elbowing each other. As soon as iwe went outside, died laughing.
It was funny to hear about all the local townsfolk and their individual fetishes. :lol:
You to go to a marriage conselor before getting married?
Wow.
I would have DIED if the preacher said that.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 05, 2009, 11:08:22 AM
You to go to a marriage conselor before getting married?
Wow.
I would have DIED if the preacher said that.
~Brian
Part of using the church's services 3 visits. And 6 nights of Bible Study. He even mentioned the local store by name. We were still kids at the time, it was hysterical.
That would be a trip to see him in there.
:lol:
~Brian
i know you guys have been dying for this news :lol:
http://www.motorauthority.com/chrysler-exploring-sale-of-dodge-viper-to-third-party.html
Quote from: who else but rk on February 05, 2009, 02:23:28 PM
i know you guys have been dying for this news :lol:
http://www.motorauthority.com/chrysler-exploring-sale-of-dodge-viper-to-third-party.html
Nifty. The photo in the story seems strangely familiar. :lol:
i had it first! :grin_nod:
Quote from: who else but rk on February 05, 2009, 02:31:10 PM
i had it first! :grin_nod:
Old news.
I posted this two weeks ago.
Sorry to steal your thunder.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 05, 2009, 02:40:19 PM
Quote from: who else but rk on February 05, 2009, 02:31:10 PM
i had it first! :grin_nod:
Old news.
I posted this two weeks ago.
Sorry to steal your thunder.
~Brian
:owned: So, that is why the story bored me and I closed it. :lol:
I get videos through Chrysler's internet site called Dealerconnect. They have talked about this for the past year and a half, and it's gradually getting closer to the chopping block.
"The Viper is in danger."
"The product planners at Dodge have held back on officially announcing the vehicle's cancellation. Dodge has halted production of the Viper, and publicly tried to sell the design rights to other automakers and even parts suppliers that don't build whole cars. Essentially, they're trying very hard to get rid of this car without taking the blame for killing it outright. The writing is on the wall for the legendary Viper."
Chrysler can't get a serious offer on the table for it.
It would take investors with serious capital to make it work. The rights to the name are very costly. Chrysler thinks they can sell the Viper as a "brand". That will not work. It would take a large, stable automaker with millions of dollars to risk just to make an attempt to make this model work. There's not an auto maker that can afford to purchase the model name and make it profitable to justify the said cost. A private company or a group of investors would be crazy to invest in this concept. There would be no way to make a return on your investment on a low production car. You can't justify a cost increase for this model in today's economy, especially when there are so many other cars that compete at or near the same level of performance of the Viper for much less money.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 05, 2009, 02:40:19 PM
Quote from: who else but rk on February 05, 2009, 02:31:10 PM
i had it first! :grin_nod:
Old news.
I posted this two weeks ago.
Sorry to steal your thunder.
~Brian
i was talking about the pic in my sig. and this deal is new news.
The deal is old news. Chrysler has had several offers, but no one can get close th the money it takes for Chrysler to sell.
Nardelli announced restructuring when he took the helm at Chrysler. The Viper has been on the chopping block for well over a year. When Cerberus became the majority holder of shares, They looked at the books and decided to roll out Project Genesis. That decision was intended to align the needs and wants of the customer with Chrysler's product portfolio and the dealer network. As you know, the financial struggles of Chrysler are playing a huge role. There are many other vehicles in the Chrysler lineup that need attention (i.e.- Affordable fuel efficient vehicles) before they can start to think about continuing with a flagship sports car. Chrysler was supposed to roll out the "Firepower" in 2009, but that has been put on hold. That car was to be more affordable for the buyer and more affordable for Chrysler build to compete with Corvette's MSRP and sales figures.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Chrysler_Firepower_NAIAS.jpg/250px-Chrysler_Firepower_NAIAS.jpg)
Chrysler Firepower
~Brian
From the front its a cool lookin car. But reminds me of the crossfire.
The crossfire was hot. :confused:
Quote from: Krandall on February 06, 2009, 10:40:52 AM
From the front its a cool lookin car. But reminds me of the crossfire.
This car is much larger than the Crossfire. It was to be powered by the Hemi (425 hp). The Crossfire sat on the same platform as the SLK Benz. Many of the same parts were used. Including engine and transmission.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 06, 2009, 10:55:59 AM
Quote from: Krandall on February 06, 2009, 10:40:52 AM
From the front its a cool lookin car. But reminds me of the crossfire.
This car is much larger than the Crossfire. It was to be powered by the Hemi (425 hp). The Crossfire sat on the same platform as the SLK Benz. Many of the same parts were used. Including engine and transmission.
~Brian
I think I told you about the crossfire trying to peal out at full throttle by my old house. Douche lost control spun up onto the curb and smashed the underside of the car, he drove it off like he was cool........except I bet he didn't get far since these was a trail of oil :lol:
Curb 1 - Oil pan 0
:rofl:
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on February 06, 2009, 10:45:08 AM
The crossfire was hot. :confused:
:puke:
Useless car. Slow, uncomfortable, and ugly. :lol:
Quote from: Colorado700R on February 06, 2009, 10:59:21 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 06, 2009, 10:55:59 AM
Quote from: Krandall on February 06, 2009, 10:40:52 AM
From the front its a cool lookin car. But reminds me of the crossfire.
This car is much larger than the Crossfire. It was to be powered by the Hemi (425 hp). The Crossfire sat on the same platform as the SLK Benz. Many of the same parts were used. Including engine and transmission.
~Brian
I think I told you about the crossfire trying to peels out at full throttle by my old house. Douche lost control spun up onto the curb and smashed the underside of the car, he drove it off like he was cool........except I bet he didn't get far since these was a trail of oil :lol:
Curb 1 - Oil pan 0
:rofl:
:lol:
they seem to win quite a bit. Poor RK.
The only reason it reminds me of the crossfire is the length of the hood and the rear how the wheels are basically @ the trunk.
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 06, 2009, 08:31:41 AM
The deal is old news. Chrysler has had several offers, but no one can get close th the money it takes for Chrysler to sell.
~Brian
lol, what im saying is these are NEW deals. everyone and there mother ( my mother does) knows that there have been many rumors about whos going to purchase the viper brand, but there finally working something out with 3 companies
It may be new to you, but it's old news to everyone else.
:lol:
~Brian
A:
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 06, 2009, 12:17:02 PM
It may be new to you, but it's old news to everyone else.
:lol:
~Brian
B: WHo gives a F**k? :lol:
anyway........
heres some more News. its confirmed. which is something new. which would mean its news.http://www.motorauthority.com/saleens-new-owner-confirms-interest-in-dodge-viper-business.html
http://jalopnik.com/cars/detroit-auto-show/this-is-the-2009-corvette-zr1-ls9-engine-and-yes-were-probably-in-serious-trouble-326717.php (http://jalopnik.com/cars/detroit-auto-show/this-is-the-2009-corvette-zr1-ls9-engine-and-yes-were-probably-in-serious-trouble-326717.php)
Check out this sexy bitch. Screw the LS7, I want this in my rail. :grin_nod:
Quote from: LittleBuddha on February 06, 2009, 01:00:05 PM
http://jalopnik.com/cars/detroit-auto-show/this-is-the-2009-corvette-zr1-ls9-engine-and-yes-were-probably-in-serious-trouble-326717.php (http://jalopnik.com/cars/detroit-auto-show/this-is-the-2009-corvette-zr1-ls9-engine-and-yes-were-probably-in-serious-trouble-326717.php)
Check out this sexy bitch. Screw the LS7, I want this in my rail. :grin_nod:
ERMAHGERD.
:nana:
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on February 06, 2009, 01:01:21 PM
Quote from: LittleBuddha on February 06, 2009, 01:00:05 PM
http://jalopnik.com/cars/detroit-auto-show/this-is-the-2009-corvette-zr1-ls9-engine-and-yes-were-probably-in-serious-trouble-326717.php (http://jalopnik.com/cars/detroit-auto-show/this-is-the-2009-corvette-zr1-ls9-engine-and-yes-were-probably-in-serious-trouble-326717.php)
Check out this sexy bitch. Screw the LS7, I want this in my rail. :grin_nod:
ERMAHGERD.
:nana:
I know. I need a left handed mouse or I gotta go "stranger". Did you watch the video? That thing sounds measty.
Yes, undies are sticky now, thanx. :lol: If there were dunes anywhere near me, I would sell the house and everything in it if I could get my hands on a rail with one of those in it.
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on February 06, 2009, 01:07:27 PM
Yes, undies are sticky now, thanx. :lol: If there were dunes anywhere near me, I would sell the house and everything in it if I could get my hands on a rail with one of those in it.
I thought I wanted an LS7 but I'm over it. Go to the video section of Tatum's website. My favorite is Casey Mears at Dumont.
Quote from: who else but rk on February 06, 2009, 12:51:45 PM
anyway........
heres some more News. its confirmed. which is something new. which would mean its news.http://www.motorauthority.com/saleens-new-owner-confirms-interest-in-dodge-viper-business.html
Steve Saleen is already affiliated with Dodge through ASC. About half of the company's $180 million to $200 million in revenue comes from the specialty car business nurtured by Saleen; the other half comes from making convertible tops for Toyota, Chrysler, General Motors and Mitsubishi, business developed by ASC.
Steve's SMS Supercars (www.SMSSupercars.com) build a special line of Challengers under the name SMS (Since the Saleen parted from founding his own company Saleen, SMS is completely different from Saleen).
The new CEO for Saleen, Marques McCammon, has stated intrest in the Viper, but is working with Ford now on a Sterling edition Mustang with a $100,000 price tag. "We are a vehicle manufacturer, but we take it to the next level" - Marques McCammon.
~Brian
The 7.0L LS7 is a bad boy, but the 6.2L LS9 is the icing on the cake!
Ultra pimp. 638 horsepower.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 06, 2009, 01:40:58 PM
Quote from: who else but rk on February 06, 2009, 12:51:45 PM
anyway........
heres some more News. its confirmed. which is something new. which would mean its news.http://www.motorauthority.com/saleens-new-owner-confirms-interest-in-dodge-viper-business.html
Steve Saleen is already affiliated with Dodge through ASC. About half of the company's $180 million to $200 million in revenue comes from the specialty car business nurtured by Saleen; the other half comes from making convertible tops for Toyota, Chrysler, General Motors and Mitsubishi, business developed by ASC.
Steve's SMS Supercars (www.SMSSupercars.com) build a special line of Challengers under the name SMS (Since the Saleen parted from founding his own company Saleen, SMS is completely different from Saleen).
The new CEO for Saleen, Marques McCammon, has stated intrest in the Viper, but is working with Ford now on a Sterling edition Mustang with a $100,000 price tag. "We are a vehicle manufacturer, but we take it to the next level" - Marques McCammon.
~Brian
the only thing which saleen has to do with the VIPER , not any other chrysler product, is its paint jobs.
Steve Saleen builds Challengers through SMS.
His FORMER company he started and departed in 2007 did some paint work on some 2008 models. Dodge pulled the plug on Viper December 29th, and there has not been a 2009 model built.
Getting rid of the Viper for Chrysler is a smart move for them, even though I would like to see it stick around in someay shape or form. They need to kill off the 8.4L V-10. I don't understand why Dodge can only squeeze 600-640 hp from it. GM does it with 2 less cylinders and better fuel economy. The Germans and Italians do it with 2 less liters, 2 turbos, and better fuel economy.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 06, 2009, 03:31:18 PM
Steve Saleen builds Challengers through SMS.
His FORMER company he started and departed in 2007 did some paint work on some 2008 models. Dodge pulled the plug on Viper December 29th, and there has not been a 2009 model built.
Getting rid of the Viper for Chrysler is a smart move for them, even though I would like to see it stick around in someay shape or form. They need to kill off the 8.4L V-10. I don't understand why Dodge can only squeeze 600-640 hp from it. GM does it with 2 less cylinders and better fuel economy. The Germans and Italians do it with 2 less liters, 2 turbos, and better fuel economy.
~Brian
Exactly! Makes a v10 just a gimmick.
US military develops anti-aircraft laser
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/4563202/US-military-develops-anti-aircraft-laser.html
The Laser Avenger successfully shot down a series of unmanned aerial vehicles during recent tests and is being hailed as a revolutionary weapon for future warfare.
The experiment was the first time that a ground vehicle has used a laser to destroy moving aircraft and marks a watershed moment in the development of lasers for battlefield use.
Invented by Boeing, the laser is fitted to a Humvee off-road vehicle, allowing it to be moved into the most remote locations to shoot down enemy planes.
It is hoped that the Laser Avenger will be used to help US forces tackle small unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), which often carry explosives or surveillance equipment.
Such devices are difficult for conventional air defence systems to shoot down.
The complex testing at White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico, required the laser to track three UAVs against a backdrop of mountains and desert.
When the targets were sighted, the Laser Avenger successfully shot down three UAVs with its high-powered directed energy beam.
Gary Fitzmire, vice president and program director of Boeing Directed Energy Systems, said: "Small UAVs armed with explosives or equipped with surveillance sensors are a growing threat on the battlefield.
"Laser Avenger, unlike a conventional weapon, can fire its laser beam without creating missile exhaust or gun flashes that would reveal its position.
"As a result, Laser Avenger can neutralize these UAV threats while keeping our troops safe."
The test firing was observed by representatives of the US Army's Cruise Missile Defense Systems project office.
The experiment follows a previous test in 2007 of a prototype Laser Avenger which obliterated improvised explosive devices and unexploded ordnance on the ground.
Lee Gutheinz, Boeing's program director for High-Energy Laser/Electro-Optical Systems, said: "We doubled the laser power; added sophisticated acquisition, tracking and pointing capability; and simplified the design.
"Boeing developed and integrated these upgrades in less than a year, underscoring our ability to rapidly respond to war-fighters' needs."
The Laser Avenger is an infrared laser with power levels in the range of tens of kilowatts.
It is a modified version of an existing US Army air defence weapon that uses two Stinger missile launchers and a heavy machine gun, with one missile pod swapped for the laser and its target tracker.
Existing weapons struggle to shoot down small, light UAVs, which are often made of plastic rather than metal, because surface to air missiles designed to target normal-sized aircraft cannot lock onto them.
Very Cool Krandall
The laser was implanted in Aaron's ass, when he was anal probed by aliens.
:lol:
~Brian
Do not be nearby when he eats Mexican Food. :lol:
The laser isn't near as accurate after Mexican food.
:lol:
~Brian
Wow cool find krandall
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 10, 2009, 12:10:25 PM
The laser isn't near as accurate after Mexican food.
:lol:
~Brian
It become more of a "scatterbomb" :lol:
Corn encased munition.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 10, 2009, 02:00:58 PM
Corn encased munition.
:lol:
~Brian
:puke: how bout that for shrapnel.
Cream corn!
:lol:
~Brian
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/weird.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org)
Jeremy Lusk, RIP...
http://backporch.fanhouse.com/2009/02/10/jeremy-lusk-dies-at-24-of-injuries-sustained-in-motorcycle-crash/ (http://backporch.fanhouse.com/2009/02/10/jeremy-lusk-dies-at-24-of-injuries-sustained-in-motorcycle-crash/)
The crash is BRUTAL.
I posted that in chat when I saw it.
RIP Jeremy. :(
RIP Jeremy, he was an awesome rider. The link above is gone but here is tribute page and video.
http://www.grindtv.com/blog/1737/rip-jeremy-lusk-112f262f1984--022f092f2009/
man, such a great loss, very talented individual ::). my prayers go out to jeremy and family :(
Brett Farve will annouce his retirement (again) from the New York Jets today.
~Brian
So when will he announce his return to the NFL? Next week?
I guess he wants to go to another then!
I just heard it on the radio....No article on the net just yet.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 11, 2009, 07:55:45 AM
I just heard it on the radio....No article on the net just yet.
~Brian
http://www.suntimes.com/1424567,brett-favre-retire-new-york-jets-021109.article
Funny how green Bay ended up 6-10 without Farve.
:lol:
~Brian
funny how farve is just "lucky"
look at his stats. SO many interceptions.
Being that you guys are football fans, I find it hilarious that you spelled his name wrong. :rolleyes:
Favre. V before the R.
;) Glad to be of service, ladies. :batman: :lol:
I'm not a fan. :thumbs:
so.. GTFOML :mad:
:lol:
Quote from: Krandall on February 11, 2009, 08:25:37 AM
I'm not a fan. :thumbs:
so.. GTFOML :mad:
:lol:
Brian failed, you get a pass, you only followed suit. :lol: And...you don't have a lawn! :lol: so: GTFOMS!
(sidewalk?) :lol:
Brian=fail.
:rofl:
bastard.
:(
I'm not a Favre/Farve fan. Just have a lot of respect for the guy to play as long as he did and never win a game in Dallas.
Suck it Trebeck.
:lol:
~Brian
New Hampshire Fires First Shot Of Civil War - Resolution Immediately Voids Several Federal Laws, Threatens Counterstrike Against Federal "Breach Of Peace"
http://patdollard.com/2009/02/new-hampshire-fires-first-shot-of-civil-war-resolution-immediately-voids-several-federal-laws-threatens-counterstrike-against-breach-of-peace/
The New Hampshire state legislature took an unbelievably bold step Monday by introducing a resolution to declare certain actions by the federal government to completely totally void and warning that certain future acts will be viewed as a "breach of peace" with the states themselves that risks "nullifying the Constitution."
This act by New Hampshire is a clear warning to the federal government that they could face being stripped of their power by the States (presumably through civil war!
The remarkable document outlines with perfect clarity, some basics long forgotten. For instance, it reminds Congress "That the Constitution of the United States, having delegated to Congress a power to punish treason, counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States, piracies, and felonies committed on the high seas, and offences against the law of nations, slavery, and no other crimes whatsoever;. . . . . therefore all acts of Congress which assume to create, define, or punish crimes, other than those so enumerated in the Constitution are altogether void, and of no force;"
Federal gun crime laws? Void. Federal drug crime laws? Void. The gazzillion other federal criminal laws that deal with anything other than the specific enumerated crimes? ALL VOID.
One would think that if any lawyer anywhere in the entire country was worth his salt, all federal criminal trials would have ended years ago. This seems to prove that most lawyers are dullards.
New Hampshire deals a complete death blow to the pending federal hate crimes legislation by pointing out "That, therefore, all acts of Congress of the United States which do abridge the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, are not law, but are altogether void, and of no force; . . . . ."
Later in the Resolution, New Hampshire makes clear what the feds are now risking if they proceed further: The removal of all powers from the federal government by the States!
Quoting directly from the Resolution: "That any Act by the Congress of the United States, Executive Order of the President of the United States of America or Judicial Order by the Judicatories of the United States of America which assumes a power not delegated to the government of United States of America by the Constitution for the United States of America and which serves to diminish the liberty of the any of the several States or their citizens shall constitute a nullification of the Constitution for the United States of America by the government of the United States of America. Acts which would cause such a nullification include, but are not limited to:
I. Establishing martial law or a state of emergency within one of the States comprising the United States of America without the consent of the legislature of that State.
II. Requiring involuntary servitude, or governmental service other than a draft during a declared war, or pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.
III. Requiring involuntary servitude or governmental service of persons under the age of 18 other than pursuant to, or as an alternative to, incarceration after due process of law.
IV. Surrendering any power delegated or not delegated to any corporation or foreign government.
V. Any act regarding religion; further limitations on freedom of political speech; or further limitations on freedom of the press.
VI. Further infringements on the right to keep and bear arms including prohibitions of type or quantity of arms or ammunition; and
That should any such act of Congress become law or Executive Order or Judicial Order be put into force, all powers previously delegated to the United States of America by the Constitution for the United States shall revert to the several States individually."
I have reported on this blog for quite some time that we here in the United States are heading toward Civil War. Many of you told me I was a nut for thinking that.
The simple fact is that we are long overdue for another Rebellion in this nation and I heartily endorse the idea of having one again very soon; preferably starting THIS year!
We must stop our federal government dead in its tracks because it is out of control and very dangerous. If stopping them means attacking them and destroying them by force, then so be it.
The full New Hampshire resolution is printed below, or you can to the Government's website and read it there.
that is stupid. :confused:
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/patterson/37722
Report: Sirius XM on the ropes, EchoStar ready to pounce.
The satellite radio company could file for bankruptcy within days, according to the New York Times. Waiting in the wings? EchoStar, which has already taken on much of Sirius XM's mounting debt. So, is satellite radio about to go silent?
Well ... not quite yet. I doubt that the service would go dark overnight were Sirius XM to file for bankruptcy protection, but as the Times points out, the company might have to cut some of its pricier shows—I'm looking at you, Howard Stern—during a restructuring.
Another scenario: A takeover by EchoStar, the satellite TV company that's circling Sirius XM like a vulture.
So, how did Sirius XM get into this mess? Chalk it up to a mountain of debt: $3.25 billion, give or take, about $175 million of which the cash-strapped company owes this month.
As Bloomberg reports, Sirius XM turned down a takeover bid from EchoStar back in December; since then, EchoStar has been buying up chunks of Sirius XM's debt.
Neither Sirius XM nor EchoStar are talking, but sources tell the New York Times that the two respective CEOs—who are "said not to get along"—are "locked" in negotiations. (That must be a fun meeting.)
Negotiations over ... what? Well, the Wall Street Journal (via Tech Trader Daily) reports that EchoStar is offering to bail out Sirius XM by restructuring its debt and pumping in some much-needed cash—in exchange for total control, of course. If that happens, say hello to "Sirius XM: An EchoStar service."
The alternative: Sirius XM files for bankruptcy, leaving EchoStar to pick over the remains in bankruptcy court.
Either way, I'm pretty sure we're looking at the end of Sirius XM as we know it. The best scenario for subscribers, I'm guessing, is a takeover by the well-funded EchoStar, which could probably keep the satellite radio service afloat without skipping a beat.
But bankruptcy ... well, if that happens, prepare for Howard Stern to be replaced by Crazy Chuck, broadcasting live from his mobile home in West Sacramento.
meh, it goes under, less bills for us to pay. Service has sucked Azz since the sirius/xm merger.
I paid $399 for a lifetime subscription, and now I can't even listen to it online.
That pisses me off.
~Brian
Damn, that blow Brian.
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 11, 2009, 02:23:14 PM
I paid $399 for a lifetime subscription, and now I can't even listen to it online.
That pisses me off.
~Brian
:mad: That is extreme bull$hit!
I tried XM's site, and I had no problem.
I time out on Sirius.com .
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 11, 2009, 02:30:23 PM
I tried XM's site, and I had no problem.
I time out on Sirius.com .
~Brian
well, then I am cool. :lol:
Could be the beginning of the end.
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 11, 2009, 02:30:23 PM
I tried XM's site, and I had no problem.
I time out on Sirius.com .
~Brian
:lol:
welcome to the end of the beginning.
Let's do the Scooby Doo ending....
Diddly do! Diddly do! Diddly do! Diddly do!
:rofl:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 11, 2009, 03:12:50 PM
Let's do the Scooby Doo ending....
Diddly do! Diddly do! Diddly do! Diddly do!
:rofl:
~Brian
Rood run raggy!!!!!!!
Now lets to the Mega Happy Ending!!!!
Diddly do! Diddly do! Diddly do! Diddly do!
:lol:
Senate Approves Stimulus Plan
NPR.org
The Senate approved an $838 billion economic stimulus bill with scant Republican backing Tuesday, setting the stage for negotiations to work out differences with a bill already passed by the House.
The Senate bill passed on a 61-37 vote, with only three Republicans voting for the package. The approval came as President Obama tried to rally support for quick passage of his economic recovery plan in a Florida community dragged down by double-digit foreclosures and unemployment.
hope it works...I will take the check regardless. :lol:
Hopefully that new home buyer credit kicks in!!! $15,000 :clap:
That was taken out of the bill. :(
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on February 12, 2009, 07:31:26 AM
That was taken out of the bill. :(
yep, go read preddy's post :lol:
Good for some people, but I'm screwed, this is my third house.
QuoteA $15,000 tax credit for anybody buying a home over the next year was dropped; instead, first-time homebuyers could claim an $8,000 credit for homes bought by the end of August. Car buyers could deduct the sales tax they paid on a new car but not the interest on their car loans.
Krandall just needs to buy the house by august?
I don't understand why the GOP fought so hard on this....Sure there are pros and cons, but the majority are positive measures for our country and for all of us. I'm glad it finally passed. It's a step in the right direction. Now if we just spend wisely, and get the best bid for jobs to put people to work!
I dislike them removing the $15,000 tax credit for home buyers. Not cool. Being able to write off the sales tax on an auto is good too. That's a huge chunk of change in some states like my own.
~Brian
The fought it due to all the pork in it. I started reading the cliff notes last night but got bored out of my mind. Lot of useless crap in that bill and spending money in the wrong areas.
They pulled the part about the whistle blower folks as well. Granting special treatment, kickbacks for people who rat on their company mishandling bailout money. Doesn't surprise me about Republican party.
We need whistle blowers. Just like the people who busted the bankers for STILL paying bonuses with our money!
Bastards.
~Brian
They were drilling the top bank executitves yesterday. They showed clips from the hearing.. Some people telling them how it is... And that they should be using the money to help the banks not themselves... Basically, we don't care what they do with THEIR money, but when it's ours(taxpayers) its a whole new ball game.
we need them, just can't be paying out millions.
There is a lot of pork in that bill, but I still say things will get better for the two reasons I've stated before.
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 12, 2009, 08:13:43 AM
I don't understand why the GOP fought so hard on this....Sure there are pros and cons, but the majority are positive measures for our country and for all of us. I'm glad it finally passed. It's a step in the right direction. Now if we just spend wisely, and get the best bid for jobs to put people to work!
I dislike them removing the $15,000 tax credit for home buyers. Not cool. Being able to write off the sales tax on an auto is good too. That's a huge chunk of change in some states like my own.
~Brian
I read all 670 odd pages of that monster. I think the issue is that they're is so much in this bill, that it's hard to swallow in one huge bite. I like allot of the ideas in it, but I agree that not ALL of it needed to be in this rescue package. It's not like they couldn't take a part out that was causing a major issue and resubmit it as it's own bill later.
Seems like a forcefeed to me. Take it all, or be the bad guys to the entire country.
I haven't read it all, but what I have read I liked. Sure, I'm sure there are some things that are overstated, but as long as the money goes to economic development, or to invest in useful programs for tax paying citizens, I support it.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 12, 2009, 08:36:51 AM
I haven't read it all, but what I have read I liked. Sure, I'm sure there are some things that are overstated, but as long as the money goes to economic development, or to invest in useful programs for tax paying citizens, I support it.
~Brian
I wish that was all that was in it.
IMO, the education part should be it's own bill.
+1
I understand education is important.. But that is not going to "stimulate" the economy.
Quote from: Krandall on February 12, 2009, 08:41:01 AM
+1
I understand education is important.. But that is not going to "stimulate" the economy.
well partially it will, due to the construction needs. but our kids education is too important not to have it's own legislation
psh, over-rated.
I agree with Aaron and Randy.
Education deserves it's own legislation. Look what education has done for countries like China and India.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 12, 2009, 08:47:49 AM
I agree with Aaron and Randy.
Education deserves it's own legislation. Look what education has done for countries like China and India.
~Brian
Holy Sh@t!!! :thud:
I got a democrat to agree with me!!
:lol:
:lol: Aaron, go burn some fossil fuels and dump some chemicals into the river. That better?
:lol: j/k
I agree too. ERMAHGERD! This one needs everybody on the same page, no "forcefeeding"
One major thing I will say that I support in that bill is the $$$ for Army, Marines, Navy, an AF military building construction. As long as it goes for the troops, not some new fancy Confrence room/sports bar :mad:
I was just on Ft. Carson awhile back becuase I bought a bunkbed off of Craigslist. The Soldier i got it from was an E-3 and was married with one kid, and another on the way. Saying this housing was like the Projects would be a massive understatement.
I lived in those 10 years ago, and they were shit then. Our guys and girls deserve better from us IMO.
I agree, but most post have really stepped it up in the last 5 yrs. FT Lewis, Benning, and Scholfield BRKS have I know
Russian, U.S. satellites collide in space from CNN.com :thumbs:
Two satellites, one Russian and one American, have collided some 800 kilometers (500 miles) above Siberia, the Russian and U.S. space agencies, said Thursday.
Debris from the collision poses no threat to the International Space Station.
The collision on Tuesday produced two large debris clouds, NASA said. The satellites collided at 10 kilometers (6 miles) per second, producing 500-600 new pieces of space debris, the U.S. Strategic Command said.
That debris is not believed to pose a threat to the International Space Station as long as the clouds continue moving in a lower orbit, according to NASA and the Russian federal space agency, Roscosmos.
"There is some elevated risk, but it is considered to be very small to the ISS and to the other satellites that NASA has in orbit," NASA spokeswoman Beth Dickey told CNN. She said experts were still assessing the effects of the debris.
Mikhail Martirosov, from Russian mission control center, told Interfax news agency that the real threat from the debris will become obvious next week, once experts can calculate the trajectory of the fragments' descent.
"We have not received a warning of the possible danger to the ISS. The fragments may descend to the ISS orbit in several years, although I do not rule out that some fragments may go down within several days," Martirosov said.
The Russian satellite was launched in 1993 and had been out of service at the time of the collision, Roscosmos said.
The U.S. satellite was part of the Iridium global mobile communications system and is owned by a consortium headed by Motorola, the space agency said. It was launched in 1997.
CNN is "one of the larger non-government users" of Iridium, said Arnie Christianson, operations manager for CNN Satellites and Transmission.
"We do rely on it for communication in high-risk areas like Iraq, Afghanistan, and other remote locations," he said.
"Because of this collision, there may be a slightly longer hole in the coverage from one satellite to the next, but only in a very small area and for a very small amount of time. This is a collision, not an internal failure of the satellite or the system."
He questioned how U.S. government, which tracks all space junk larger than a football, didn't see this coming. But he said the system will continue to work without any noticeable problems.
A representative of Iridium could not immediately be reached for comment.
NASA's Dickey said a collision like this one is very rare.
"This is the first impact between two intact satellites traveling at hypervelocity," she said. "There have been some other occasions when things have accidentally collided in space, but they have been parts of rockets or parts of satellites and (produced) a very small cloud."
Major Regina Winchester, of the U.S. Strategic Command, said: "Space is getting pretty crowded. The fact that this hasn't happened before -- maybe we were getting a little bit lucky."
Winchester said Strategic Command tracks more than 18,000 pieces of manmade objects in space every day.
"Any time there's an event that creates more debris, it's a concern," she said. "All countries who have assets in space are going to be concerned simply because when there's more debris, there's a higher chance it's going to hit something."
Wow. whats the odds of that happening?
not as tuff as you think. when you have geo syncronis satelittes, versus Highly ellipical orbits versus low ellipitcal orbits, plus decaying orbits. it gets nasty fast (like 10 KM per second)
You are the smartest guy I know :lol:
now that my friend is a very scary concept. :lol:
Quote from: Colorado700R on February 12, 2009, 02:30:14 PM
now that my friend is a very scary concept. :lol:
I know ???
Quote from: FoundArealQuad on February 12, 2009, 02:31:14 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on February 12, 2009, 02:30:14 PM
now that my friend is a very scary concept. :lol:
I know ???
We need to get you out of AL before you start think Jerry Reid was an excellent singer :lol:
:rolleyes:
CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. – Methamphetamine "cooks" are secretly converting hundreds of motel and hotel rooms into covert drug labs — leaving behind a toxic mess for unsuspecting customers and housekeeping crews.
They are places where drug-makers can go unnoticed, mixing the chemicals needed for the highly addictive stimulant in a matter of hours before slipping out the next morning. The dangerous contaminants can lurk on countertops, carpets and bathtubs, and chemical odors that might be a warning clue to those who follow can be masked by tobacco smoke and other scents.
Motels can be an attractive alternative for drug makers seeking to avoid a police raid on their own homes.
"They can seize the trailer or seize your house but they can't seize a motel room," said Dr. Sullivan Smith, director of emergency services at Cookeville Regional Medical Center in north-central Tennessee.
U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration records obtained by The Associated Press show that states reported finding evidence of drug-making in 1,789 motel and hotel rooms in the past five years — and that's just those the authorities found.
Some cleanup professionals hired to make the travelers' havens livable again say most of their work is done on properties where a meth lab was discovered long after the fact.
The number of clandestine labs that are never found is difficult to pin down. There was a slight uptick in hotel and motel lab busts reported to the Drug Enforcement Administration in 2008 from the previous year, with 149 in 2006, 87 in 2007 and 127 in 2008. The tally was 461 in 2005 and 965 in 2004, before there were restrictions on purchasing over-the-counter decongestants often used as ingredients. The DEA count is based on states that reported labs.
The toxins can linger for days if meth lab hygienists wearing hazmat suits don't clean living areas.
The cleanups cost anywhere from $2,000 to $20,000. Even short-term exposure to vapors and residue where the drug is smoked or cooked can cause eye and skin irritation, vomiting, rashes, asthma problems and other respiratory issues.
"It probably happens all the time," said John Martyny, a National Jewish Medical and Research Center associate professor who is also an industrial hygienist and meth researcher. "The difficulty is, how do you make that attribution? You might think it is from cigarette smoking."
Martyny said health effects from long-term exposure to the drug making are not known because the clandestine labs did not become widespread until the 1990s.
The volatile labs can be set up in less than four hours inside a hotel or motel room, according to The American Hotel and Lodging Association.
Methods vary for making the drug, but the equipment can be simple enough to fit in a single backpack: A large soft drink bottle with some rubber tubing, duct tape, batteries, refrigerant packs and a decongestant that contains ephedrine or pseudoephedrine.
Regardless of the complexity, "You are going to leave behind meth and caustic or potentially hazardous chemicals," said Tommy Farmer, director of Tennessee's Methamphetamine Task Force.
"The smart ones come in about 10 o'clock at night and they make it all night and are out of there by 8 a.m," said Joseph McInerney, president and CEO of the association.
Environmental services specialist John Nale of Chattanooga, who is licensed to clean up meth labs, said tests he has conducted for buyers of motel properties have shown chemicals from clandestine labs that were never previously discovered and reported.
Joe Mazzuca, operations manager at Meth Lab Cleanup Co. in Post Falls, Idaho, said he has tested pricey hotel rooms in Idaho and Utah and discovered contaminants where no one previously suspected a meth lab had been.
"Seventy percent of the work the company does are properties that were never busted," Mazzuca said.
Mazzuca said meth chemicals often leave purplish stains, and cooks often leave behind products such as cat litter used to absorb foul odors. Maids at one Utah hotel found absorbent material left hidden between mattresses and box springs.
"It is very toxic stuff and they don't want to carry it around," Mazzuca said.
Nale said motel and hotel customers may be reluctant to speak up if something is suspicious. He's also careful not to use coffee pots and other items provided in guest rooms.
"It could be chemicals or you just don't know what has been done with those," he said.
McInerney, the hotel and lodging association president, said few meth labs are set up in hotels compared with the industry renting about 3 million rooms a day. He said operators typically are vigilant about monitoring for any meth problems.
In East Ridge, on Interstate 75 a few miles from Chattanooga, police last month uncovered one lab in the Cascade Motel. They posted a quarantine sign on the door of the room until the owner pays for a cleanup and the affected area is cleared for use.
Police investigator Josh Creel said he and other officers located the chemicals, tubing and glassware that were being used when they made the arrests at the Cascade Motel. He advised the manager to leave the door and window open for several days in preparation for the cleanup, which involved replacing many of the furnishings.
The motel manager, Pradip Patel, declined comment other than, "Our bad luck."
Story via the AP.
~Brian
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090223/ap_on_fe_st/odd50_jobs_50_states;_ylt=AjC3UD4o_6dGBHJ1HpaQQ77tiBIF
THERESA, Wis. – At a time when some people are having trouble finding one job, Daniel Seddiqui is lining up 50 — one in every state. Each job symbolizes the state's most famous industry, and each lasts one week — just long enough for the 26-year-old to appreciate the labor and explore the region.
He's been a park ranger in Wyoming, a corn farmer in Nebraska and a wedding coordinator in Las Vegas.
Last week, in Week 23 of his yearlong saga, he was a cheesemaker in southeast Wisconsin. He mixed ingredients, hoisted slabs of cheddar — and tasted plenty of his work.
"I would say this was as hard as logging," he said Friday, referring to his stint as a logger in Oregon three months ago. "Everything here is done by hand so there's a lot of heavy lifting."
Seddiqui, who grew up in Los Altos, Calif., insists his job-hopping isn't a gimmick. It's a legitimate effort to travel the U.S., learning about cultures across the country and developing a respect for what other people do, he said.
For example, at his Nebraska job he was surprised that every farmer he met had a college degree
Great idea Brian, thanks.
Motels can be an attractive alternative for drug makers seeking to avoid a police raid on their own homes.
:rofl:
Hotels on the Oklahoma side will seldom rent to people living in the city.
No shit.
Too many mobile meth labs.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 23, 2009, 03:49:14 PM
Hotels on the Oklahoma side will seldom rent to people living in the city.
No shit.
Too many mobile meth labs.
~Brian
that is bull$hit! discrimination. :lol:
MUMBAI (Reuters Life!) – The two main child actors from "Slumdog Millionaire" are to receive new homes from the authorities after the small-budget movie swept the Oscars, winning eight Academy Awards.
The Mumbai homes will go to Rubina Ali and Azharuddin Ismail, who played the young roles of the movie's central characters, Latika and Salim, in the rags-to-riches romance about a poor Indian boy competing for love and money on a TV game show.
"These two children have brought laurels to the country, and we have been told that they live in slums, which cannot even be classified as housing," said Gautam Chatterjee, head of the state-run Maharashtra Housing and Area Development Authority.
Authorities did not say where the home would be only that there would be apartments and near a "prime location."
Ali, 8, currently lives in a tiny hovel in a rubbish strewn slum near railway tracks in India's financial hub. Ismail sleeps under a polythene sheet-covered roof in the same slum. Open sewers run nearby and both homes have no running water.
The movie, based in Mumbai, took home eight awards from the Oscars including best picture and best director for Britain's Danny Boyle.
But in the leadup to Sunday's Oscars, the movie's success around the globe was overshadowed by objections in India to its name which some Indians find offensive, its depiction of the lives of impoverished Indians, and the treatment of the cast.
There was an outcry after pictures emerged of the child stars living in squalor despite the $15 million movie earning about $100 million since its North American release last November.
But since the Oscars, India's media has been caught in a patriotic frenzy and politicians have jumped on the bandwagon to praise Indians involved in the film.
Boyle and producer Christian Colson have flatly rejected claims of exploiting children for the movie.
They said the children were paid above local Indian wages and enrolled in school for the first time with a fund set up to pay for their education, medical emergencies and "basic living costs."
Fox Searchlight Pictures, the 20th Century Film Fox studio behind the film, paid for visas, travel and accommodation for nine children to fly to Los Angeles for the Oscars.
~Brian
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090227/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_iraq
Officials: Obama sets Aug. 2010 as Iraq end date
WASHINGTON – A "substantial" number of the roughly 100,000 U.S. combat troops to be pulled out of Iraq by Aug. 31, 2010, will remain in the war zone through at least the end of this year to ensure national elections there go smoothly, senior Obama administration officials say.
That pacing suggests that although Obama's promised withdrawal will start soon, it will be backloaded, with larger numbers of troops returning later in the 18-month time frame.
Obama was to announce his strategy Friday at the sprawling Camp Lejeune in North Carolina, where thousands of Marines are soon heading to another war front, Afghanistan.
The administration now considers Aug. 31, 2010, as the end date for Iraq war operations.
Why the last douche bag couldn't make that commitment is beyond me.
~Brian
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,25113643-13762,00.html
12-hour Viagra-fuelled orgy ends in death
THIS was one bet Sergey Tuganov was determined to win.
British newspaper, The Sun, reports the 28-year-old Russian man died after taking a bottle of Viagra pills for an apparent 12-hour sex romp.
Two women told Moscow police they bet Tuganov $US4300 that he wouldn't be able to satisfy them during a non-stop half day sex marathon.
The mechanic died of a heart attack minutes after winning the wager, Moscow police said.
"We called emergency services but it was too late, there was nothing they could do," said one of the female participants who identified herself only as Alina.
Medics said he most likely died from the quantity of Viagra he had ingested.
There are 30 pills in an average 100mg bottle of Viagra.
Viagra FTW!
~Brian
Quote from: Krandall on February 27, 2009, 08:04:44 AM
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,25113643-13762,00.html
12-hour Viagra-fuelled orgy ends in death
THIS was one bet Sergey Tuganov was determined to win.
British newspaper, The Sun, reports the 28-year-old Russian man died after taking a bottle of Viagra pills for an apparent 12-hour sex romp.
Two women told Moscow police they bet Tuganov $US4300 that he wouldn't be able to satisfy them during a non-stop half day sex marathon.
The mechanic died of a heart attack minutes after winning the wager, Moscow police said.
"We called emergency services but it was too late, there was nothing they could do," said one of the female participants who identified herself only as Alina.
Medics said he most likely died from the quantity of Viagra he had ingested.
There are 30 pills in an average 100mg bottle of Viagra.
Twas a good death :lol:
If you're gonna go out.. Go out w/ a "bang". *drum roll inserted here*
:rofl:
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 27, 2009, 07:55:46 AM
Why the last douche bag couldn't make that commitment is beyond me.
~Brian
He's not doing anything different, just moving the troops from one country to the next. Its not like they are going home.
Afghanistan is where they should have been all along.......Looking for something that does actually exsist.
~Brian
Yeah!!!!
Becuase no terroist group would ever fund or recieve funding from a known mass murdering dictator and his regime......thats just silly talk
:rofl:
There were no terrorist groups in Iraq. Saddam wouldn't have put up with that shit. He ruled with an iron fist, and killed innocent people and people suspected as a threat to his power.
Same reason Mutaqa Al-Sadr was just an alter boy then. If he tried to rally peeps while Saddam was in power, he'd be dead now.
~Brian
Another thing my friend in the cia said about the search for wmd's.......its a damn big desert.
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 27, 2009, 08:55:36 AM
There were no terrorist groups in Iraq. Saddam wouldn't have put up with that shit. He ruled with an iron fist, and killed innocent people and people suspected as a threat to his power.
Same reason Mutaqa Al-Sadr was just an alter boy then. If he tried to rally peeps while Saddam was in power, he'd be dead now.
~Brian
Common enemy common goal. Just like any other war, the US not only destroys the physical arms of the enemy, we also attack infrastructure. Iraq was and is a major part of the supply, training, and other support systems.
You don't think we had enough satellites looking for activity in the dessert? We had patrols flying in the no fly zone to the north and south for how long? Twelve years?
I saying we would have had the location if there was any. If Saddaam was an actual threat to national security, he would have been watched like a hawk.
All he did was push the buttons of a hot head President and it got 4252 of our soldiers killed. Sure the Iraqis are better off but it's been at the expense of our familes, and our taxpayers.
Afghanistan has just had 1091 US soldiers killed in action. Still unacceptable, but if I were in uniform, I would be much happier serving there hunting for Osama and associates. At least I would believe that our soliders didn't die in vain.
I think the US focused too hard on Iraq looking for things that do not exsist, when we should have been looking for the root of our problem to begin with, Osama bin Laden.
I personally think Osama is not there. I think he's either in Pakistan, or he's back in Africa.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 27, 2009, 09:09:36 AM
You don't think we had enough satellites looking for activity in the dessert? We had patrols flying in the no fly zone to the north and south for how long? Twelve years?
I saying we would have had the location if there was any. If Saddaam was an actual threat to national security, he would have been watched like a hawk.
All he did was push the buttons of a hot head President and it got 4252 of our soldiers killed. Sure the Iraqis are better off but it's been at the expense of our familes, and our taxpayers.
Afghanistan has just had 1091 US soldiers killed in action. Still unacceptable, but if I were in uniform, I would be much happier serving there hunting for Osama and associates. At least I would believe that our soliders didn't die in vain.
I think the US focused too hard on Iraq looking for things that do not exsist, when we should have been looking for the root of our problem to begin with, Osama bin Laden.
I personally think Osama is not there. I think he's either in Pakistan, or he's back in Africa.
~Brian
We know they had them, we just don't know what they did with them
Quote from: Colorado700R on February 27, 2009, 09:00:00 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 27, 2009, 08:55:36 AM
There were no terrorist groups in Iraq. Saddam wouldn't have put up with that shit. He ruled with an iron fist, and killed innocent people and people suspected as a threat to his power.
Same reason Mutaqa Al-Sadr was just an alter boy then. If he tried to rally peeps while Saddam was in power, he'd be dead now.
~Brian
Common enemy common goal. Just like any other war, the US not only destroys the physical arms of the enemy, we also attack infrastructure. Iraq was and is a major part of the supply, training, and other support systems.
I believe that, sure. What I
don't believe is there was supply, training, and support for Osama bin Laden in Iraq.
Osama bin Laden would not have supported a dictator like Saddam, and Saddam would not have supported bin Laden. Osama would have been considered a threat to Saddam and his regime. Besides, Saddam called himself a Muslim, but persectued fellow Muslims and had thousands executed.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 27, 2009, 09:15:02 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on February 27, 2009, 09:00:00 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 27, 2009, 08:55:36 AM
There were no terrorist groups in Iraq. Saddam wouldn't have put up with that shit. He ruled with an iron fist, and killed innocent people and people suspected as a threat to his power.
Same reason Mutaqa Al-Sadr was just an alter boy then. If he tried to rally peeps while Saddam was in power, he'd be dead now.
~Brian
Common enemy common goal. Just like any other war, the US not only destroys the physical arms of the enemy, we also attack infrastructure. Iraq was and is a major part of the supply, training, and other support systems.
I believe that, sure. What I don't believe is there was supply, training, and support for Osama bin Laden in Iraq.
Osama bin Laden would not have supported a dictator like Saddam, and Saddam would not have supported bin Laden. Osama would have been considered a threat to Saddam and his regime. Besides, Saddam called himself a Muslim, but persectued fellow Muslims and had thousands executed.
~Brian
Just like a terrorist muslim leader would not lower themselves into the drug trade? Oops, don't look now....they already have.
what is wrong with the drug trade? :bird:
Quote from: Colorado700R on February 27, 2009, 09:11:09 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 27, 2009, 09:09:36 AM
You don't think we had enough satellites looking for activity in the dessert? We had patrols flying in the no fly zone to the north and south for how long? Twelve years?
I saying we would have had the location if there was any. If Saddaam was an actual threat to national security, he would have been watched like a hawk.
All he did was push the buttons of a hot head President and it got 4252 of our soldiers killed. Sure the Iraqis are better off but it's been at the expense of our familes, and our taxpayers.
Afghanistan has just had 1091 US soldiers killed in action. Still unacceptable, but if I were in uniform, I would be much happier serving there hunting for Osama and associates. At least I would believe that our soliders didn't die in vain.
I think the US focused too hard on Iraq looking for things that do not exsist, when we should have been looking for the root of our problem to begin with, Osama bin Laden.
I personally think Osama is not there. I think he's either in Pakistan, or he's back in Africa.
~Brian
We know they had them, we just don't know what they did with them
They had chemical weapons, and short range missiles (Scuds) in the first conflict, but after that George Sr. took care of business and got the hell out. Iraq wanted Israel and other countries like Iran to think that Iraq had them. Iraq wants to be perceived as a threat, but after spending 6 years there without a trace of "WMD's" I'm saying it's all bullshit. If it were true, I think we would have had more support like we did in the first conflict.
~Brian
One of the global anti-american setiments is that the US can wage war from afar and level a country with out a single bullet flying on us soil.
Sadams hatred for us for the decimation of his armed forces and infrastructure was fuel enough to reach out to an other wise "non-desirable" with a common goal to achieve an attack and support future attacks on the US soil.
They grow opium in Afghanistan, not Iraq.
Iraq has oil, but it was firmly controled by Saddam. His wealth at his time of capture should have been a sign he was firmly in control.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 27, 2009, 09:21:33 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on February 27, 2009, 09:11:09 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 27, 2009, 09:09:36 AM
You don't think we had enough satellites looking for activity in the dessert? We had patrols flying in the no fly zone to the north and south for how long? Twelve years?
I saying we would have had the location if there was any. If Saddaam was an actual threat to national security, he would have been watched like a hawk.
All he did was push the buttons of a hot head President and it got 4252 of our soldiers killed. Sure the Iraqis are better off but it's been at the expense of our familes, and our taxpayers.
Afghanistan has just had 1091 US soldiers killed in action. Still unacceptable, but if I were in uniform, I would be much happier serving there hunting for Osama and associates. At least I would believe that our soliders didn't die in vain.
I think the US focused too hard on Iraq looking for things that do not exsist, when we should have been looking for the root of our problem to begin with, Osama bin Laden.
I personally think Osama is not there. I think he's either in Pakistan, or he's back in Africa.
~Brian
We know they had them, we just don't know what they did with them
They had chemical weapons, and short range missiles (Scuds) in the first conflict, but after that George Sr. took care of business and got the hell out. Iraq wanted Israel and other countries like Iran to think that Iraq had them. Iraq wants to be perceived as a threat, but after spending 6 years there without a trace of "WMD's" I'm saying it's all bullshit. If it were true, I think we would have had more support like we did in the first conflict.
~Brian
Negative, UN weapons inspectors were in charge of the destruction of WMDs back in 1998, the Iraqs failed to produce the weapons or valid documentation of there destruction. Thats why Bubba Clinton started this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Liberation_Act
Quote from: Colorado700R on February 27, 2009, 09:22:52 AM
One of the global anti-american setiments is that the US can wage war from afar and level a country with out a single bullet flying on us soil.
Sadams hatred for us for the decimation of his armed forces and infrastructure was fuel enough to reach out to an other wise "non-desirable" with a common goal to achieve an attack and support future attacks on the US soil.
Again, Saddam was not a threat to US national security. The crippling sanctions to Iraq and the no fly zone established by our Air Force took care of that. Saddam could have possibly financed an attack with his large amount of wealth, but I honestly doubt he would have attempted anything like. What would he have gained by attacking the US? Fame? Fortune? He was already wealthy, and we've had a firm grip oin his balls since 1991.
~Brian
Quote from: Colorado700R on February 27, 2009, 09:27:19 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 27, 2009, 09:21:33 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on February 27, 2009, 09:11:09 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 27, 2009, 09:09:36 AM
You don't think we had enough satellites looking for activity in the dessert? We had patrols flying in the no fly zone to the north and south for how long? Twelve years?
I saying we would have had the location if there was any. If Saddaam was an actual threat to national security, he would have been watched like a hawk.
All he did was push the buttons of a hot head President and it got 4252 of our soldiers killed. Sure the Iraqis are better off but it's been at the expense of our familes, and our taxpayers.
Afghanistan has just had 1091 US soldiers killed in action. Still unacceptable, but if I were in uniform, I would be much happier serving there hunting for Osama and associates. At least I would believe that our soliders didn't die in vain.
I think the US focused too hard on Iraq looking for things that do not exsist, when we should have been looking for the root of our problem to begin with, Osama bin Laden.
I personally think Osama is not there. I think he's either in Pakistan, or he's back in Africa.
~Brian
We know they had them, we just don't know what they did with them
They had chemical weapons, and short range missiles (Scuds) in the first conflict, but after that George Sr. took care of business and got the hell out. Iraq wanted Israel and other countries like Iran to think that Iraq had them. Iraq wants to be perceived as a threat, but after spending 6 years there without a trace of "WMD's" I'm saying it's all bullshit. If it were true, I think we would have had more support like we did in the first conflict.
~Brian
Negative, UN weapons inspectors were in charge of the destruction of WMDs back in 1998, the Iraqs failed to produce the weapons or valid documentation of there destruction. Thats why Bubba Clinton started this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Liberation_Act
You can't destroy what you don't have.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 27, 2009, 09:23:37 AM
They grow opium in Afghanistan, not Iraq.
Iraq has oil, but it was firmly controled by Saddam. His wealth at his time of capture should have been a sign he was firmly in control.
~Brian
You said a leader like Osama (Afganistan) wouldn't support Saddam (Iraq), but the truth is that these too would do ANYTHING to achieve their goals. Sell drugs, weapons to radicals, etc.
And for the record
Zero soliders have died in vain. They died serveing their country, you and I may not agree with the decisions, but that will never discredit their honor and sacrafice for all of us.
Wanna find Osama? Rent a movie at blockbuster in his name, then return it a week late. Those Nazi's will find him. :rofl: They stop at nothing. :batman:
Also, None of us would ever say that for real Aaron. :thumbs:
I don't want to step in between you to.. BUT...
If they had WMD's... How come they can tell me when North Korea appears to be rebuilding a nuclear powerplant / centerfuge but can't tell me where some huge ass missiles have moved. The fact is.. the US is always watching... If they DID have them. in my opinion, they would have found them. I know the desert is big. But so is our governments eyes.
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 27, 2009, 09:28:36 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on February 27, 2009, 09:22:52 AM
One of the global anti-american setiments is that the US can wage war from afar and level a country with out a single bullet flying on us soil.
Sadams hatred for us for the decimation of his armed forces and infrastructure was fuel enough to reach out to an other wise "non-desirable" with a common goal to achieve an attack and support future attacks on the US soil.
Again, Saddam was not a threat to US national security. The crippling sanctions to Iraq and the no fly zone established by our Air Force took care of that. Saddam could have possibly financed an attack with his large amount of wealth, but I honestly doubt he would have attempted anything like. What would he have gained by attacking the US? Fame? Fortune? He was already wealthy, and we've had a firm grip oin his balls since 1991.
~Brian
As we've seen, any destablizing threat to the middle east is a threat to us national security. There is much more to the US national security than just safeguard attacks. Oil supply is a definate threat, hence the push for non dependance. If the world shut off our oil supply, the life we live now will drastically end, causing chaos, discontent, rioting, etc. We are in no position to just cut the emblical to foreign sources yet, hopefully soon that will change.
Quote from: Krandall on February 27, 2009, 09:35:06 AM
I don't want to step in between you to.. BUT...
If they had WMD's... How come they can tell me when North Korea appears to be rebuilding a nuclear powerplant / centerfuge but can't tell me where some huge ass missiles have moved. The fact is.. the US is always watching... If they DID have them. in my opinion, they would have found them. I know the desert is big. But so is our governments eyes.
Radation is easy to track, along with the massive energy required for there construction. Chemical/biological is just as dangerous/ perhaps even more but hard to track.
missles are big and easy to spot. Artillery rounds are not, hence the weapon of choice for IEDs. Chemical and biological arty rounds and battlefield rockets are the big scare in IRAQ
Our men and women choose to take the oath to defend OUR country.
As you know, the oath also includes enemies foreign and domestic.
It's not near as important for me to see the proof as the families of the fallen. To let them know their loved ones didn't die in vain.
Ask the famlies of the fallen if they think their loved ones dies in vain, and I bet you get a different answer than your thought.
Iraq was not the enemy. Saddam may have had the ability to starte chemical weapons again, but there hasn't been a trace of chemical weapons or nuclear weapons in almost seven years of us in country.
If there was, the Bush administration would have been all over the airwaves and rubbing it the face of all the countries that didn't offer their support, not to mention to save his own ass and save face with the American public and the international community.
~Brian
, (name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me GERD.[1]
Bubbas orders with the Iraqi liberation act + W's congressionally sactioned orders.
I know this oath and it's meaning very well. Our guys/girls did what they were told to do per these legal orders.
Not all heros get to fight the fight they want, but it makes them non-the-less, heros.
Quote from: Colorado700R on February 27, 2009, 09:50:16 AM
, (name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me GERD.[1]
Bubbas orders with the Iraqi liberation act + W's congressionally sactioned orders.
I know this oath and it's meaning very well. Our guys/girls did what they were told to do per these legal orders.
Not all heros get to fight the fight they want, but it makes them non-the-less, heros.
Well stated Brutha. Nobody is saying they aren't. :thumbs:
But what if the President is a douche bag?
Just calling a spade a spade.
I understand you must obey. It doesn't mean you have to agree.
I just feel the families of the fallen are owed the truth, as well as those taxpayers that have footed the bill for this mess.
~Brian
He was a douche bag, but I cannot pretend to know wtf is going on, and frankly, in most cases, don't want to.
And I ageee, nobody has owned it. Still waiting.
I really wish Iraq would kick in some cash to help pay for this shit......Help the families of the fallen at the minimum.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 27, 2009, 09:56:38 AM
But what if the President is a douche bag?
Just calling a spade a spade.
I understand you must obey. It doesn't mean you have to agree.
I just feel the families of the fallen are owed the truth, as well as those taxpayers that have footed the bill for this mess.
~Brian
I understand you contempt Brian. But I hate when people say our troops died in vain. They died doing their job. No less honorable than a firman dying by rushing into a burning abandoned building to rescue a crack head that started the fire. No one cares about the building, nor the crack head, but non the less the fireman is a hero, and just doing his job.
Aaron is full of intelligent analogies today. -nobody cares about the crackhead.
FUnny, but seriously true. I getz no love. :rofl:
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on February 27, 2009, 10:15:11 AM
Aaron is full of intelligent analogies today. -nobody cares about the crackhead.
FUnny, but seriously true. I getz no love. :rofl:
Stop setting preddy's house on fire and perhaps that might change :rofl:
They died doing their job, it's unfortunate.
It just seems they died in vain with no one stepping up and being accountable for our actions there.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on February 27, 2009, 10:18:28 AM
They died doing their job, it's unfortunate.
It just seems they died in vain with no one stepping up and being accountable for our actions there.
~Brian
We should be used to that by now. Kennedy cost us over 50,000 troops (vietnam) + over 20,000 cubans and brought us to within minutes of global thermonuclear war twice over not much more than ego, and we laud him as one of our greatest presidents.
One of the things I learned through my duties and travels is that we Americans are only satisfied when our pocket books are fat. Kennedy almost f@cked us all, but it was an economic boom, therefore he's a hero. Same with Clinton, could have saved a few hundred thousand lives in the balken's , but economics are good so..hero. Bush senior led us through the gulf war in a sweaping victory, but the economy was sluggish, so next.
IMO, there is no poor people in America. There is always a helping hand available through our structure, charities, and organizations (they may not make you rich, but they will do quite a bit if you ask).
If you want poor, go look at some of the african counties. No food, clean water, health care.....nothing, and no one to help....ever.
We as Americans are spoiled, and need to understand that we live a privilaged life compared to most of the world. A lot of folks say "we need to take care of our people here first!!!". Compared to the world, we don't have problems
+1 going to a few countries like that is a real eye opener
Quote from: FoundArealQuad on February 27, 2009, 12:49:48 PM
+1 going to a few countries like that is a real eye opener
The people in these countries need to stop having so many GERD-damned babies! The land obviously can't support such giant populations, but they keep squirting them out. "hmm can't afford to feed ourselves, let's make more of us" Genius. Then we have to help them not to live in squalor. :rolleyes: I feel the need to help those less fortunate than me, just not the stupid ones.
There are some parts of the rural midwest that aren't all that great guys. Sometimes we do need help here. Silicon valley is becoming that way too.
Every year I go on vacation, I see poverty. It's eye opening. We are very fortunate to have what we have, and I thank GERD for the many blessings we have received.
~Brian
RICHMOND, Va. – A rare 1776 copy of the Declaration of Independence belongs to a Virginia technology entrepreneur, not the state of Maine, the Virginia Supreme Court ruled Friday. Richard Adams Jr. of Fairfax County purchased the document from a London book dealer in 2001 for $475,000. But the state of Maine claimed it belongs to the town of Wiscasset, where it was kept by the town clerk in 1776.
Virginia's high court said that a lower court did not err in its ruling in Adams' favor because Maine didn't prove the document was ever an official town record and that Adams had superior title to the print.
Adams' attorney, Robert K. Richardson, has argued that Wiscasset's town clerk copied the text of the Declaration of Independence into the town's record books on Nov. 10, 1776. It's that transcription, not the document upon which it was based, that is the official town record, Richardson said.
"The fact that the print was not made by an authorized public officer and was not intended to be the official memorial of the Declaration precluded the print from qualifying as a 'public record' under common law," the court said in its ruling.
Adams, who gained fame when he founded UUNet Technologies Inc., the first commercial Internet service provider, sued to establish title to the document after learning that Maine was trying to get it back. His attorney told the high court last month there's no evidence the document was ever an official record kept by the town of Wiscasset and that Adams is the rightful owner.
Maine Assistant Attorney General Thomas Knowlton argued that Wiscasset never gave up ownership of the document, which is one of about 250 copies printed in 1776 and distributed to towns throughout Massachusetts to be read to residents. Maine was part of Massachusetts at the time.
Maine state archivist David Cheever said he found it "incredible" that the state's rights were trumped by a private collector. Maine contended the document never should have been sold because of a state law which presumes that public documents remain public property unless ownership is expressly relinquished by the government.
"To us, it's a public document. It was then. It is now," Cheever said.
Knowlton said the state strongly disagrees with the decision, but acknowledged that it is the end of the road. There are no federal issues that could be pursued to the U.S. Supreme Court.
"The unfortunate result is a public record that we believe rightfully belongs to the people of Maine is now in the hands of a private collector in Virginia," Knowlton said.
Adams' attorney was in court all day Friday and unavailable for comment.
Whether it was an official record or not, the document apparently was retained by Solomon Holbrook, Wiscasset's town clerk from 1885 until his death in 1929. An estate auctioneer found it in a box of papers in the attic of Holbrook's daughter's home after she died in 1994.
Knowlton said town clerks in those days worked out of their homes — a likely explanation for why the document remained with the family instead of being passed along to the new clerk. Holbrook also was a jeweler.
The document changed hands a couple of times before Adams bought it. Cheever said officials became aware of the print's existence after receiving an anonymous tip and decided to try to get it back because of its historical significance.
Cheever said only 11 of the approximately 250 copies printed by Ezekiel Russell in Salem, Mass., are known to still exist. One that originally belonged to the town of North Yarmouth also was obtained by a private collector but eventually was returned, Cheever said.
I'd love to own it!
~Brian
No doubt. $475k for a piece of paper.....really unless it was the original. The value of the Declaration goes far beyond those printed forms. Nuts!
That is crazy
http://news.aol.com/article/yeti-could-exist-respected-expert-says/362965
CHICAGO – Paul Harvey, the news commentator and talk-radio pioneer whose staccato style made him one of the nation's most familiar voices, died Saturday in Arizona, according to ABC Radio Networks. He was 90.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/HarveyPaul.jpg/150px-HarveyPaul.jpg)
Harvey died surrounded by family at a hospital in Phoenix, where he had a winter home, said Louis Adams, a spokesman for ABC Radio Networks, where Harvey worked for more than 50 years. No cause of death was immediately available.
Harvey had been forced off the air for several months in 2001 because of a virus that weakened a vocal cord. But he returned to work in Chicago and was still active as he passed his 90th birthday. His death comes less than a year after that of his wife and longtime producer, Lynne.
"My father and mother created from thin air what one day became radio and television news," Paul Harvey Jr. said in a statement. "So in the past year, an industry has lost its godparents and today millions have lost a friend."
Known for his resonant voice and trademark delivery of "The Rest of the Story," Harvey had been heard nationally since 1951, when he began his "News and Comment" for ABC Radio Networks.
He became a heartland icon, delivering news and commentary with a distinctive Midwestern flavor. "Stand by for news!" he told his listeners. He was credited with inventing or popularizing terms such as "skyjacker," "Reaganomics" and "guesstimate."
"Paul Harvey was one of the most gifted and beloved broadcasters in our nation's history," ABC Radio Networks President Jim Robinson said in a statement. "We will miss our dear friend tremendously and are grateful for the many years we were so fortunate to have known him."
In 2005, Harvey was one of 14 notables chosen as recipients of the presidential Medal of Freedom. He also was an inductee in the Radio Hall of Fame, as was Lynne.
Former President George W. Bush remembered Harvey as a "friendly and familiar voice in the lives of millions of Americans."
"His commentary entertained, enlightened, and informed," Bush said in a statement. "Laura and I are pleased to have known this fine man, and our thoughts and prayers are with his family."
Harvey composed his twice-daily news commentaries from a downtown Chicago office near Lake Michigan.
Rising at 3:30 each morning, he ate a bowl of oatmeal, then combed the news wires and spoke with editors across the country in search of succinct tales of American life for his program.
At the peak of his career, Harvey reached more than 24 million listeners on more than 1,200 radio stations and charged $30,000 to give a speech. His syndicated column was carried by 300 newspapers.
His fans identified with his plainspoken political commentary, but critics called him an out-of-touch conservative. He was an early supporter of the late Sen. Joseph McCarthy and a longtime backer of the Vietnam War.
Perhaps Harvey's most famous broadcast came in 1970, when he abandoned that stance, announcing his opposition to President Nixon's expansion of the war and urging him to get out completely.
"Mr. President, I love you ... but you're wrong," Harvey said, shocking his faithful listeners and drawing a barrage of letters and phone calls, including one from the White House.
In 1976, Harvey began broadcasting his anecdotal descriptions of the lives of famous people. "The Rest of the Story" started chronologically, with the person's identity revealed at the end. The stories were an attempt to capture "the heartbeats behind the headlines." Much of the research and writing was done by his son, Paul Jr.
Harvey also blended news with advertising, a line he said he crossed only for products he trusted.
In 2000, at age 82, he signed a new 10-year contract with ABC Radio Networks.
Harvey was born Paul Harvey Aurandt in Tulsa, Okla. His father, a police officer, was killed when he was a toddler. A high school teacher took note of his distinctive voice and launched him on a broadcast career.
While working at St. Louis radio station KXOK, he met Washington University graduate student Lynne Cooper. He proposed on their first date (she said "no") and always called her "Angel." They were married in 1940 and had a son, Paul Jr.
They worked closely together on his shows, and he often credited his success to her influence. She was inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame in 1997, seven years after her husband was. She died in May 2008.
Story via the AP.
~Brian
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090302/ap_on_re_us/mullen_iran
Iran has fissile materials for bomb
WASHINGTON – The top U.S. military official said Sunday that Iran has sufficient fissile material for a nuclear weapon, declaring it would be a "very, very bad outcome" should Tehran move forward with a bomb.
Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, offered the assessment when questioned in a broadcast interview about a recent report by the U.N. nuclear watchdog on the state of Iran's uranium enrichment program, which can create nuclear fuel and may be sufficiently advanced to produce the core of warheads.
Mullen was asked if Iran now had enough fissile material to make a bomb. He responded, "We think they do, quite frankly. And Iran having a nuclear weapon I've believed for a long time is a very, very bad outcome for the region and for the world."
sad about Paul Harvey, I was a regular listener....though I thought he had been dead for awhile already. :lol:
Quote from: Krandall on March 01, 2009, 07:24:22 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090302/ap_on_re_us/mullen_iran
Iran has fissile materials for bomb
WASHINGTON – The top U.S. military official said Sunday that Iran has sufficient fissile material for a nuclear weapon, declaring it would be a "very, very bad outcome" should Tehran move forward with a bomb.
Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, offered the assessment when questioned in a broadcast interview about a recent report by the U.N. nuclear watchdog on the state of Iran's uranium enrichment program, which can create nuclear fuel and may be sufficiently advanced to produce the core of warheads.
Mullen was asked if Iran now had enough fissile material to make a bomb. He responded, "We think they do, quite frankly. And Iran having a nuclear weapon I've believed for a long time is a very, very bad outcome for the region and for the world."
Fo Fissle my nissle :lol:
And this is.... the rest.. of the story.
GOOD DAY.
Paul Harvey rocked. There was some pretty funny stuff he talked about on his shows.
We used to listen to Paul Harvey in drivers ed when I was a sophomore. He had a great radio voice.
~Brian
Paul harvey always reminded me of trips with my great grandfather. He would always have him on the radio in his old buick while take my sisters and myself for a summer cruise to the ice cream stand.
Even almost thirty years after my great grandfather past, Paul Harvey's voice would take me back to those simple days, where the thoughts of Ice Cream on a mid summer afternoon towered over any possible problems I might of had.
I'll miss his memory invoking monologues. :(
I have the EXACT same story Aaron, riding with my grandpa. The memories will be missed.
RIP Paul :(
The second broadcast of his.....
And now......the REST of the story.
Classic.
It was always crazy, or amazing news too.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on March 02, 2009, 08:02:43 AM
The second broadcast of his.....
And now......the REST of the story.
Classic.
It was always crazy, or amazing news too.
~Brian
Just think of just his voice recognition....You could have a 1000 people listen to some audio of his voice and other "more famous" anouncers, and I bet he'd score right up there with John Madden, Harry Carey..........He was an amazing story teller to, he could truly intrance you in a tale.
Absolutely.
He was an awesome story teller. He had a way of drawing you in and finishing strong.
~Brian
Juan Zamora pumped $26 of gas into his 1994 Chevy Camaro at his regular Conoco just like any other normal day. The only problem is his Paypal debit card recorded a transaction of $81,400,836,908.
An as-yet-unidentified system glitch resulted in the $81 billion charge which was only discovered after Zamora was informed his credit car had been maxed out, a couple billion times over. After arguing with Paypal's broken-English service division in India, Zamora was eventually able to convince the creditors he hadn't filled his Camaro up more than 3.1 billion times (or alternately gas hadn't gone to $5,920,060,866 a gallon) the charge was removed. Juan's moral of the story: "Pay cash."
Story via Jalopnik.
~Brian
:lol:
I just found Jalopnik, this site rocks.
This year's Indy Pace car is.....
The 2010 Chevrolet Camaro!
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2009/02/2010-Chevy-Camaro-Indy-500.jpg)
The Indianapolis Motor Speedway announced Feb. 26 it has selected the all-new 2010 Chevrolet Camaro to pace the 93rd running of the Indianapolis 500 on Sunday, May 24, 2009.
The Camaro Pace Car was unveiled during a ceremony at the IMS Hall of Fame Museum with IMS President and Chief Operating Officer Joie Chitwood, and Indianapolis 500 winners Johnny Rutherford, Al Unser Jr. and Eddie Cheever Jr.
"The Chevrolet Camaro first paced the Indianapolis 500 in 1967 with one of the most loved Pace Cars of all times, followed by the 1969 Indy 500 Camaro Pace Car with the hugger orange paint scheme," Chitwood said. "Just 40 years after that car made its mark as a Pace Car favorite, we're pleased to have Camaro return to the streets and to the track at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway to start our Centennial Era."
2009 marks the fifth time the Chevrolet Camaro has been selected to pace the Indianapolis 500 (1967, 1969, 1982, 1993, 2009). It will be the 44th time a General Motors vehicle has paced "The Greatest Spectacle in Racing," with 20 by a Chevrolet.
Powered by the 6.2-liter LS3 all-aluminum Chevy V-8, the all-new 2010 Camaro produces 426 horsepower at 5,900 rpm and 420 lb-ft of torque at 4,600 rpm. It features a Tremec six-speed manual transmission and 3.45 axle ratio.
No drivetrain or suspension modifications are required to prepare the Camaro for its Pace Car duties. The only modifications to the vehicle include a fully integrated strobe system, including a GM-designed custom light bar utilizing Whelen 500 series linear strobes.
The car carries a bold paint scheme for the Indianapolis 500, created by GM Design. More information on the production version of the all-new 2010 Camaro can be found at chevy.com/camaro.
The 2009 Indianapolis 500 Pace Car driver will be announced at a later date.
~Brian
I got to see the Camaro in person for the first time at the Chicago auto show, and I was rather unimpressed. I really expected more. For the most part it was boring to me.
I check Jalopnik every other day since you sent me the Stingray concpet Randy. It's a cool site!
The Camaro really needs to be a big hit for GM. Especially after all the hype.
I've yet to see one up close, but I know we have five Camaro SS models ordered, and they are all sold at $5,000 over sticker. I can't wait to see one.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on March 02, 2009, 01:51:43 PM
This year's Indy Pace car is.....
The 2010 Chevrolet Camaro!
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2009/02/2010-Chevy-Camaro-Indy-500.jpg)
The Indianapolis Motor Speedway announced Feb. 26 it has selected the all-new 2010 Chevrolet Camaro to pace the 93rd running of the Indianapolis 500 on Sunday, May 24, 2009.
The Camaro Pace Car was unveiled during a ceremony at the IMS Hall of Fame Museum with IMS President and Chief Operating Officer Joie Chitwood, and Indianapolis 500 winners Johnny Rutherford, Al Unser Jr. and Eddie Cheever Jr.
"The Chevrolet Camaro first paced the Indianapolis 500 in 1967 with one of the most loved Pace Cars of all times, followed by the 1969 Indy 500 Camaro Pace Car with the hugger orange paint scheme," Chitwood said. "Just 40 years after that car made its mark as a Pace Car favorite, we're pleased to have Camaro return to the streets and to the track at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway to start our Centennial Era."
2009 marks the fifth time the Chevrolet Camaro has been selected to pace the Indianapolis 500 (1967, 1969, 1982, 1993, 2009). It will be the 44th time a General Motors vehicle has paced "The Greatest Spectacle in Racing," with 20 by a Chevrolet.
Powered by the 6.2-liter LS3 all-aluminum Chevy V-8, the all-new 2010 Camaro produces 426 horsepower at 5,900 rpm and 420 lb-ft of torque at 4,600 rpm. It features a Tremec six-speed manual transmission and 3.45 axle ratio.
No drivetrain or suspension modifications are required to prepare the Camaro for its Pace Car duties. The only modifications to the vehicle include a fully integrated strobe system, including a GM-designed custom light bar utilizing Whelen 500 series linear strobes.
The car carries a bold paint scheme for the Indianapolis 500, created by GM Design. More information on the production version of the all-new 2010 Camaro can be found at chevy.com/camaro.
The 2009 Indianapolis 500 Pace Car driver will be announced at a later date.
~Brian
Great....another generation of mullet toteing rednecks driving the "Official Pacecar" Camaro.
All we need now is a Def Leppard Come back tour, and no Jr highschool parking lot will be safe.
I sat in the SS, it just didn't do anything for me. A real let down, I had high hopes.
I've drove the Challenger R/T, and the Challenger SRT. In comparison to my ride's 436 hp LS3, I was not impressed. Even the SRT with the 6.1L Hemi. I guess it's because the car is so much heavier. I'm looking forward to seeing the Camaro up close, and seeing how the LS3 propels the heavier Camaro. Especially the 300hp V6 version.
I love the seats in the Challenger though. I have rode in a customer's Challenger that had a cold air intake, Magnaflow exhaust, and it made a huge difference.
~Brian
My disappointment in the new camaro is small compared to my HUGE disappointment in the new 2010 Mustang, I've always loved the looks of the new body style but for the life of me I can't understand why they would stay with a 315hp V8 and not something bigger/more hp to compete with the new camaro.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on March 02, 2009, 02:28:00 PM
My disappointment in the new camaro is small compared to my HUGE disappointment in the new 2010 Mustang, I've always loved the looks of the new body style but for the life of me I can't understand why they would stay with a 315hp V8 and not something bigger/more hp to compete with the new camaro.
Agreed!
They will still get more market share, since they build 135-140,000 of them and flood the market with them. That's always been my complaint with the Mustang. It's an
iconic car, a piece of American history, and to build that many of them just kills it for me.
The kid with the V6 Mustang has virtually the same car as the guy with the GT Mustang. It's hard to distingush the two cars apart.
I'd rather see them go back to the 5.0 than the weak ass 4.6L that sits in them now. Even the Supercharged Mustangs fall short in performance when comparing them to the closest competition, the Z06. No traction with the Supercharged 'Stangs. The just spin on takeoff.
~Brian
Why do they need to compete w/ the camaro? I think they (ford) grabbed a niche part of the market and chevy's just trying to cash in themselves... The average person isn't looking for 400+ HP.. Affordable, looks, and power are obviously key. They could always opt for the GT500 which boasts a friendly 500HP
The next thing up is the 500+ hp GT 500, and good luck finding one of those for sticker. They really need something in the middle.
Quote from: Krandall on March 02, 2009, 02:36:21 PM
Why do they need to compete w/ the camaro? I think they (ford) grabbed a niche part of the market and chevy's just trying to cash in themselves... The average person isn't looking for 400+ HP.. Affordable, looks, and power are obviously key. They could always opt for the GT500 which boasts a friendly 500HP
The Mustang and Camaro have always competed against each other. The Camaro stepped onto the scene in 1967 (The Firebird in 1969)to capture market share as a muscle car. Ford has offered the cheaper alternative, and has always outsold GM in that aspect.
Ford has offered less car for much less, and it has sold. The name sells the car. 85% of the people that buy it don't buy it for it's performance.
The GT500 is a cool ride, but for the money you have to spend for the car, it doesn't perform like a 500 hp car should.
~Brian
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on March 02, 2009, 02:37:14 PM
The next thing up is the 500+ hp GT 500, and good luck finding one of those for sticker. They really need something in the middle.
There's a few out there with DEEP discounts now.
:lol:
~Brian
The camaro is not cool, unless they offer it with t-tops, and in primer gray. :lol:
http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=2750.915;num_replies=915
Fish eats cell phone, still works after a week
I've lost cell phones before. Left on the plane. Foolishly put on top of the car while I was loading stuff in the trunk. But never have I had a phone swallowed by a fish.
The UK's Sun -- sure, not the most erudite paper, but reliable enough on matters of mobile phones swallowed by creatures of the sea -- reports that a local businessman lost his phone a week ago while lounging on the beach. He thought it gone for good, but some time later his girlfriend received a strange call from the phone... from a fisherman who said he'd found the handset in the belly of a 25 pound cod.
After cleaning up and drying out the handset -- a Nokia -- the man says it still works... though it obviously it's now on the smelly side. He is still using it today, although it eventually began acting up and he had to "get the circuit board changed in the end."
What's the takeaway from this fish tale? For starters, some cell phones are a lot tougher than you think. If the seal is good and a lot of moisture stays out of the inside of the case, there's a good chance that a phone will survive a drop in the ocean or a few days in the belly of a cod, at least for a while.
Of course, the second point almost goes without saying: Cod will eat anything.
The UK's Sun -- sure, not the most erudite paper, but reliable enough on matters of mobile phones swallowed by creatures of the sea
best line of whole story. :lol:
:lol:
What are the chances.. Seriously..
might wanna change the link in thread. opens to reply screen. :lol:
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on March 02, 2009, 03:05:29 PM
The camaro is not cool, unless they offer it with t-tops, and in primer gray. :lol:
Primer = Oklahoma chrome.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on March 02, 2009, 03:32:02 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on March 02, 2009, 03:05:29 PM
The camaro is not cool, unless they offer it with t-tops, and in primer gray. :lol:
Primer = Oklahoma chrome.
:lol:
~Brian
:lol: excellent.
Hell yeah.
I think people actually work hard on restoring their cars and trucks. When they get to the primer stage, they just STOP here.
Probably because they sniffed all the paint.
:lol:
~Brian
:lol:
How an Emerald, 840 Pounds of It, Landed in Court
http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/106670/How-an-Emerald-840-Pounds-of-It-Landed-in-Court
Just before Christmas, detectives from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department pried open a crate outside a warehouse to find something they had been chasing for months: an 840-pound Brazilian emerald that had been reported stolen.
Unable to determine who the real owner is, Lt. Grubb decided to keep the emerald locked up while the investigation proceeds. Meanwhile, a Los Angeles civil court is scheduled to hear from different claimants in the case on Tuesday.
Lt. Grubb, who had spent the bulk of his 26-year career conducting narcotics investigations, first got onto the case last September. A distraught man named Larry Biegler had called the sheriff's office to say that his giant emerald had been stolen from a Los Angeles-area warehouse where he had been keeping it. It was worth nearly $400 million, he said
wow why store something worth that much in a warehouse. thats what Banks are for
I don't think you could deposit a 800lb stone there :lol:
I stole it.
Quote from: Krandall on March 03, 2009, 01:01:39 PM
I don't think you could deposit a 800lb stone there :lol:
I meant the Vaults or something. Hell my basement would be better than a warehouse
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/03/02/state/n161221S74.DTL
3/3/09: Math fans to celebrate Square Root Day
Dust off the slide rules and recharge the calculators. Square Root Day is upon us.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
More News
Coast Guard halts search for NFL players, 3rd man 03.03.09
Top Obama officials defend tax hikes as necessary 03.03.09
Warrant issued for immigrant in Chandra Levy death 03.03.09
Bernanke grilled on latest $30B bailout of AIG 03.03.09
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The math-buffs' holiday, which only occurs nine times each century, falls on Tuesday — 3/3/09 (for the mathematically challenged, three is the square root of nine).
"These days are like calendar comets, you wait and wait and wait for them, then they brighten up your day — and poof — they're gone," said Ron Gordon, a Redwood City teacher who started a contest meant to get people excited about the event.
The winner gets, of course, $339 for having the biggest Square Root Day event.
Gordon's daughter even set up a Facebook page — one of a half-dozen or so dedicated to the holiday — and hundreds of people had signed up with plans to celebrate in some way. Celebrations are as varied: Some cut root vegetables into squares, others make food in the shape of a square root symbol.
The last such day was five years ago, Feb. 2, 2004, which coincided with Groundhog Day. The next is seven years away, on April 4, 2016.
Better get into that Krandall
7 more years until the next one :)
I saw that on CNN yesterday.
It's a raw stone. Looks very cool.
~Brian
I can't even imagine finding something like that.. Jaw just hitting the floor knowing it's worth 100+ million.
It's worth more cut and polished!!!
~Brian
Private search on for missing NFL players in Gulf
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090304/ap_on_re_us/missing_boaters_nfl
I meant to post this yesterday, truly sad. Wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemies dieing like this.
TAMPA, Fla. – Private boats and planes searched Wednesday for two NFL players and a third man missing for four days since their boat capsized in the Gulf of Mexico off Florida, family members said.
The Coast Guard called off the official search Tuesday for Oakland Raiders linebacker Marquis Cooper, who owned the boat, free-agent NFL defensive lineman Corey Smith and former South Florida player William Bleakley. But their families appealed for help to keep hunting.
Two or three charters left in the late morning from a St. Petersburg marina and at least one had friends of the families of the missing men aboard, said Don Beggs, who owns one of the local docks. Three private planes also had searched, according to Cooper's father, Bruce Cooper.
A fourth man on the fishing trip, Nick Schuyler, was rescued Monday after crews found him clinging to the boat. His doctor said it's a "miracle" Schuyler survived in the cold water for nearly two days after the boat carrying the men on a fishing trip overturned in rough seas off the Florida coast Saturday.
Dr. Mark Rumbak said the 24-year-old is in good condition but will remain in intensive care in case there are complications. Schuyler was in 63-degree Gulf of Mexico water for around 46 hours and probably could have lived only another five to 10 hours if he wasn't rescued Monday, Rumbak said.
"I think he is extremely fortunate having been in the water for 46, 47 hours and that he's even alive," Rumbak said. "I can't explain it. Some divine providence, I really think."
The missing men's families have set up an e-mail address for experienced pilots and boaters to contact them. Coast Guard Capt. Timothy Close said the agency wouldn't prevent private searches, but discouraged them, saying they could be dangerous. He said authorities believed if there were more survivors, they would have been found.
Free-agent defensive tackle Tank Johnson, a childhood friend and college teammate of Cooper at Washington, was taking a lead role in the renewed search. Johnson, who played for the Dallas Cowboys last season, said the family has not given up hope that the men are still alive.
"I truly believe he is out there somewhere being strong," Johnson said.
Even if the men aren't found alive, it's important to recover their remains so survivors can have closure, Johnson said.
"This kid is going fight to the bitter end," Cooper's father said. "And so in my heart of hearts, I just believe he's out there somewhere just waiting to be found, so that really gives me strength in this effort to find him."
Bleakley's mother said Wednesday that Schuyler gave her a harrowing account of the men's fight to survive after the boat capsized. Betty Bleakley said Schuyler told her the men swam back to the boat after being repeatedly hurled by strong waves.
"To listen to Nick, they fought real hard to come home," Betty Bleakley said. "Nick said that all of them fought, just fought to stay alive."
Bleakley and Schuyler, college teammates, managed to stick together for about 24 hours. She says they talked about how they would live their lives differently.
"He said they huddled together, they just kept climbing back on the boat after getting knocked off," she said. "He said they just kept fighting. They fought. They fought."
Betty Bleakley said her son's actions were heroic. She said he swam underneath the boat to get life vests for the other men and then used a cushion for floatation himself.
"That was Will," she said. "Will was calm and level-headed and would just try to think things through.
"As painful as it was talking to Nick, it's providing some closure for us," she said.
Terrible.
I'm shocked the owner of the boat went that far out, especially with small craft advisories. 7 foot waves in a 21 foot boat would keep me close to shore. Waves that size would be uncomfortable in a boat twice that size.
~Brian
Not a smart move, sad that they had to pay the ultimate price.
Yes they did.
They were anchored 30+ miles away from shore?
Too far in a boat that small in my opinion.
~Brian
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_obama_budget
Obama takes aim at costly defense contracts
President Barack Obama said on Wednesday the U.S. government was paying too much for things it did not need and ordered a crackdown on spending "plagued by massive cost overruns and outright fraud."
The Democrat, under fire from Republicans for the $3.5 trillion price tag for his 2010 budget plan, also took aim at predecessor George W. Bush and noted the cost of government contracts had doubled to more than half a trillion dollars over the past eight years.
Obama, who inherited a $1.3 trillion budget deficit when he took office on January 20, said wasteful spending was a problem across the government, but he zeroed in on the defense industry and costly weapons projects hit by "delay after delay."
Better clean up your resume Aaron.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on March 05, 2009, 06:51:36 AM
Better clean up your resume Aaron.
Yup.
No more forum whoring. Get to work. You have a deadline.
:lol:
~Brian
RENO, Nev. – The eagle has landed — with a thud — after crashing through the windshield of a tractor-trailer on a Nevada highway. State wildlife officials said Wednesday that a 15-pound golden eagle with a 7-foot wing span has a swollen head but otherwise appears unhurt after crashing into a Florida truck driver's big rig on Monday.
(http://d.yimg.com/img.news.yahoo.com/util/anysize/400,http%3A%2F%2Fd.yimg.com%2Fa%2Fp%2Fap%2F20090304%2Fcapt.8e80b06125f24925bf6607b03c6350a2.eagle_truck_windshield_fx101.jpg?v=2)
(http://d.yimg.com/img.news.yahoo.com/util/anysize/400,http%3A%2F%2Fd.yimg.com%2Fa%2Fp%2Fap%2F20090304%2Fcapt.694a2f4c8056409195e1f26a11159fe4.eagle_truck_windshield_fx102.jpg?v=2)
(http://d.yimg.com/img.news.yahoo.com/util/anysize/400,http%3A%2F%2Fd.yimg.com%2Fa%2Fp%2Fap%2F20090304%2Fcapt.5be18451f60440c9b738af5f9ff8d75e.eagle_truck_windshield_fx103.jpg?v=2)
(http://d.yimg.com/img.news.yahoo.com/util/anysize/400,http%3A%2F%2Fd.yimg.com%2Fa%2Fp%2Fap%2F20090304%2Fcapt.848e53f71d4c4fb98046a8e113da41ab.eagle_truck_windshield_fx103.jpg?v=2)
Matthew Roberto Gonzalez of Opa Locka, Fla., was driving on U.S. Interstate 80 in northeast Nevada near Wells, about 60 miles west of the Utah line, when the eagle came crashing into the cab of his truck.
"I heard a loud thump like a brick or something coming through the glass," said Daryl Young of Miami, the co-driver who was dozing in the sleeper berth when it happened. "I woke up, and the windshield was all over me. Next thing I know there was a big bird lying on the floor."
Joe Doucette, a spokesman for the Nevada Department of Wildlife, said it appears the eagle hit the windshield head first.
"One side of the head is swollen, but there does not appear to be any permanent damage," he said.
"The guys in the truck immediately bailed out because it was one ticked off bird. She was pretty feisty," Doucette said. "Even the officer who responded didn't want to go in there so we had one of our wildlife biologists do it."
The eagle was recovering at the Northeast Nevada Wildlife Rehabilitation Center in Spring Creek, and Doucette said the goal was to release it back into the wild.
Jeffrey Spires, owner of Spires Trucking of South Florida in Miramar, Fla., said he thought his drivers were kidding when they called to report the damage.
"Never in trucking history," he said.
Story via the AP
~Brian
Unless you've been living under a rock (and it's okay to admit if you have, I'm told rent is cheap), you probably heard that President Barack Obama sat courtside at D.C.'s Verizon Center Friday night, watching his hometown Chicago Bulls take on the Washington Wizards.
(http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nba_experts__21/ept_sports_nba_experts-696443146-1236124609.jpg?ymBf14ADlQZkvmhR)
The First Fan drank beer, read the game program and left early (with four minutes left) during a blowout. "All common American activity," as Tom Ziller put it, "except most of us don't sit courtside, nor are we important enough that the NBA will hold up a tip-off until we get to our seats." (Speak for yourself, Z!)
But Obama's night of "Joe Plumber Americana" didn't stop there. He also exchanged a few playful words with a diehard Wizards fan sitting a few rows back. Yes, that's right, the 44th President of the United States joined in a little trash talk. Awesome.
The vocal instigator: Miles Rawls (above, standing, "heckling"), the commissioner of the Barry Farms' Goodman League — a big-time summer circuit in Southeast D.C., which has starred Gilbert Arenas and Kevin Durant, among others.
Dan Steinberg of the D.C. Sports Bog, in a fun must-read, talked with Rawes about trading barbs with the President.
Here's a snippet from the interview:
[Rawls] said his chatter, like always, was unscripted, "right off the top of my head. I just had to see how he was gonna take it," Rawls said. "Once I knew he was a big trash talker, too, about them Bulls, that means the gloves came off." [...]
"I wasn't heckling the President and I don't heckle the players. I talk about their weaknesses. We was having a good time. He was talking trash and I was talking trash. I couldn't believe he was that laidback and real. I loved it."
And while they talked through much of the game, Rawls — who had never met a President — said no lines were crossed. "I wasn't disrespectful," he said. "I know my limits."
So, for example, he told the President that if he was rooting for the visitors, he was "gonna have to keep it to a low roar, because we're cheering for the Wizards over here." Obama, in turn, repeatedly needled Rawls about the Wizards' habit of letting leads evaporate, especially when the Bulls made a run.
(http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nba_experts__21/ept_sports_nba_experts-174223713-1236125537.jpg?ymht14ADbzURWgm3)
"We was just going back and forth," Rawls said. "Once Chicago started coming back, he told me, 'Now I think you need to sit down.' When Tyrus Thomas dunked on somebody, he turned around, was talking smack. Then JaVale McGee had that alley-oop, and he gave me the high five. We was just supporting each others' team, having a good time."
Well, I smell an audit coming.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on March 05, 2009, 06:51:36 AM
Better clean up your resume Aaron.
Kim Jong Ill and Iran will keep me employed. There are more than a few that need to be cut, more than a few here too
Not looking good for GM.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090305/bs_nm/us_gm_7
DETROIT (Reuters) – General Motors Corp on Thursday said its auditors had raised "substantial doubt" about its ability to survive outside bankruptcy if it fails to stem its losses and stop burning cash.
The "going concern" warning from the struggling U.S. automaker had been expected, but underscored the stakes for GM as it seeks up to $30 billion in U.S. government aid to restructure outside a court-supervised bankruptcy process.
GM's shares dropped 15 percent to $1.87 in premarket trading.
GM said its creditors had agreed to waive a requirement that could have allowed them to force the automaker to repay more than $6 billion in loans because of the warning in order to allow GM to press its case for government aid.
The automaker had warned late last month that it expected auditors Deloitte & Touche would question its viability after it reported a loss of nearly $31 billion for 2008.
The disclosures came in GM's delayed annual report to U.S. Securities Regulators and a 25-page discussion of the growing risks facing the automaker ranging from tight credit and troubled suppliers to slumping demand for new cars around the globe.
GM has about $1 billion in convertible debentures that mature on June 1. Absent a deal to restructure its debt, that looming payment could force GM into bankruptcy, it said.
The automaker also said repeatedly that a bankruptcy filing could force a liquidation because of the lack of financing its reorganization would require and consumer reluctance to buy vehicles from a bankrupt automaker.
GM faces an end of March deadline to complete concession talks with the United Auto Workers and bondholders to reduce its debt load as part of a bid to convince the autos task force assembled by U.S. President Barack Obama that it can be made viable with a new round of government help.
"Our future is dependent on our ability to execute our viability plan," GM said in its annual report filed with U.S. securities regulators.
"If we fail to do so for any reason, we would not be able to continue as a going concern and could potentially be forced to seek relief through a filing under the U.S. bankruptcy code," it said.
Some analysts have said that the "going concern" warning from GM's auditors could risk cutting the credit available to its suppliers just as many of those smaller companies face a deepening cash crisis of their own.
FOCUS SHIFTS TO CREDITORS
Representatives of GM's bondholders were scheduled to meet on Thursday with the U.S. autos task force. Under GM's bailout, its debt holders have been asked to take a payout of one-third of the $27 billion GM owes through a debt-for-equity swap.
Bondholders have balked at those terms and are asking Washington to guarantee their remaining debt in the automaker.
Separately, GM said in its SEC filing that its lenders had waived "call" provisions that could have forced early payment of its $4.5 billion secured revolving credit facility, a $1.5 billion term loan and a $125-million inventory financing facility.
The new waivers allow GM's lenders to call those loans if the U.S. Treasury rejects GM's restructuring plan and request for additional aid and forces it to repay the $13.4 billion it has already borrowed from the U.S. government.
GM has lost some $82 billion since 2005 and has been hit hard by the steep drop in global auto sales in the past year.
Industry-wide U.S. auto sales have fallen 40 percent from their 2007 peak. Sales globally are down about 24 percent from a peak in January 2008, GM said.
GM said it expected to post a loss that could top $1 billion in the current quarter as it begins to report results separately for its troubled Saab unit.
The Swedish auto brand is up for sale and attempting to reorganize under new ownership and with aid from the Swedish government.
Can't believe it has come to this for GM :(
Our GM store only sold 6 new GM vehicles last month.
~Brian
The sad thing they have really started making better vehicles the past few years
ouch. sucks for them
If they have to file no one will buy their cars. Only thing they will be able to do is liquidate.
No one is buying them now.
I have proof.
:lol:
~Brian
I wonder what extent the government will go to save GM. I really don't see them making it. After what I saw at the auto show I see ford and chrysler making it, I didn't see anything to say GM was worth sticking around.
I think GM could steamline and make it, but their debt is out of control. If their debt was restructred without going bankrupt, that would be a major step.
~Brian
Quote from: FoundArealQuad on March 05, 2009, 09:44:27 AM
The sad thing they have really started making better vehicles the past few years
this is debatable. :lol: But they couldn't find a way to make good cars affordably.
I really liked the new Malibu. FIrst time in years I caught myself taking a second look at a gm car. Trucks since 07 have come a long way in refinement.
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=5803241
"Meantime, Deputy Sheriff Mike Bright was traveling southbound in a marked vehicle with his emergency lights on to a deer versus car crash.
The deputy swerved, but still hit Mussaw who was lying in the unlit highway.Mussaw was taken to the hospital where she later died of her injuries.An autopsy will be conducted to determine the cause of death. "
Well shit! I thought that would be pretty obvious.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090311/ap_on_fe_st/odd_canned_marijuana;_ylt=Amauv6Qh0JigtvZNYZANIz7tiBIF
Police seize 1,200 pounds of pot in spinach cans
GALLUP, N.M. – Police with the New Mexico Motor Transportation Division found 1,200 pounds of pot packed in cans labeled as spinach during a stop at the Gallup port of entry. An inspector noticed that only a few of the cans were labeled and that the weight printed on the side of the can didn't match the actual weight. A closer look during last Friday's bust revealed the canned drugs, which were worth an estimated $1.5 million.
The four pallets of cans were being transported along with fresh produce.
The 50-year-old truck driver said he was on his way from California to the East Coast. The driver and the pot were turned over to the Drug Enforcement Administration.
Quote from: Krandall on March 11, 2009, 10:26:05 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090311/ap_on_fe_st/odd_canned_marijuana;_ylt=Amauv6Qh0JigtvZNYZANIz7tiBIF
Police seize 1,200 pounds of pot in spinach cans
GALLUP, N.M. – Police with the New Mexico Motor Transportation Division found 1,200 pounds of pot packed in cans labeled as spinach during a stop at the Gallup port of entry. An inspector noticed that only a few of the cans were labeled and that the weight printed on the side of the can didn't match the actual weight. A closer look during last Friday's bust revealed the canned drugs, which were worth an estimated $1.5 million.
The four pallets of cans were being transported along with fresh produce.
The 50-year-old truck driver said he was on his way from California to the East Coast. The driver and the pot were turned over to the Drug Enforcement Administration.
Popeye woulda been stoned outta his gourd :lol:
Popeye brand spinach is canned at Allen Canning company, located in Alma, AR. About 15 miles from my house.
Lots of spinach grown here......pot too.
:lol:
~Brian
Combine Fight Club with Cripple fight..... :confused:
Welcome to Texas :lol:
(CNN) -- A Texas agency is installing videocameras and hiring security officers at a state school for mentally handicapped adults after allegations emerged that workers there staged "fight club" battles among residents.
The Texas Department of Aging and Disability Services also announced Tuesday that it is suspending admissions to the Corpus Christi State School in Corpus Christi.
A cell phone containing videos of the alleged abuse at the school was turned over to police last week, and authorities are expecting to file arrest warrants this week, Corpus Christi Police Capt. Tim Wilson said Tuesday.
The incidents are believed to have taken place in a school dormitory, Wilson said, adding, "this has been going on for some time."
The school's workers "are charged with the care and custody of these clients, and they are exploiting [them]," he said.
In addition to the videocameras, the Texas Department of Aging and Disability Services said it is increasing supervision of night shifts at the school. It also said state school representatives would be making random, unannounced inspections during evening and overnight shifts.
Seven school employees have been placed on paid leave by the agency, according to department spokeswoman Cecilia Fedorov. Those employees are barred from coming onto the campus but must sign in at the gate every day they are on leave, she said.
State officials are awaiting the outcome of the investigation to determine whether they should take further action, she said.
Some former workers also will be interviewed, authorities said.
Fedorov said the Department of Aging and Disability Services was told Friday by the state Department of Family and Protective Services that it was opening an investigation into possible abuse or neglect after being alerted to the situation by police.
Wilson said those involved are likely to face charges of injury of a disabled person, which can range up to a third-class felony, depending on the extent of a person's involvement. The actual charges, however, will be left up to the Nueces County district attorney, who is participating in the investigation along with the Texas Inspector General's Office, he said.
Corpus Christi police received the cell phone a week ago, Wilson said, after someone found it and gave it to an officer working security at a hospital. The officer looked at several of the videos and then gave the phone to the police's forensic unit for analysis. More videos were found in the phone's memory.
"It appears it was some sort of a fight club," Wilson said. Twenty videos were found on the phone, with dates going back about a year. All the videos featured the school's "clients," who are severely mentally handicapped, he said.
On the videos, the clients "are not upset like they are being forced," Wilson said. "They are being more goaded into it. There's a lot of voices on there from workers ... saying, 'Look at that, ha ha' ... laughing, stuff like that."
No clients are seen crying, upset or injured on the videos, he said, but none of the workers is seen stopping the fighting.
"The fighting entails pushing, wrestling and some shoving," Wilson said.
The Department of Aging and Disability Services said Tuesday that the residents in the images had been assessed and were found to be free of injuries. They are receiving additional counseling, the agency said.
Wilson said that four or five clients had been identified, as well as at least five workers, possibly as many as 10.
The clients are all adult males, ranging in age from their late teens into their 30s, he said, and as part of the investigation, the inspector general's office has interviewed some of them.
Police believe, based on the videos, that the "fight club" was confined to one dormitory, Wilson said.
Cripple fight!
:lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmWb0HPTB9A&feature=related
~Brian
CRIIIIIPPLLLLLLEEE FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!
That's some funny shit.
~Brian
ERMAHGERD that is horrible....funny as f**k, but horrible. :rofl:
http://www.ktla.com/content_landing_page/?Woman-Hurt-in-Sex-Mishap-Involving-Power=1&blockID=235930&feedID=1080
KTLA News
March 10, 2009
LEXINGTON PARK, Md.- A woman is recovering after being seriously injured in a mishap involving a sex toy.
A man who called 911 call said he had placed a sex toy over a saber saw blade, and then used the power tool on his partner, but the blade cut through the plastic and injured the woman.
The victim, a 27-year-old woman, was flown to Prince George's hospital center by Maryland State Police helicopter.
County law enforcement officials say no charges will be filed, calling the incident accidental.
A f*cking saw? (no pun intended)
Holy shit!
~Brian
TapouT founder Lewis dies in hit-and-run accident
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/mma/03/11/tapout.death/index.html?section=si_latest
Charles Lewis Jr. better known to MMA fans as "Mask," was killed in a hit-and-run accident Tuesday night in Newport Beach, Calif.
Lewis was the founder of Tapout Clothing, Inc., and the face of its popular reality show on cable channel Versus. Several sources within the company confirmed his passing.
At 12:57 a.m., a Newport Beach Police cruiser spotted Lewis' red Ferrari and a white Porsche driving out of control on the southbound side of Jamboree Road, according to Lt. Jim Amormino, a public information officer with the Orange County Sherrif's Department.
The Ferrari then struck the curb and hit a utility pole, tearing the car in half. After coming to a brief stop, the Porsche fled the scene.
An unnamed female passenger was ejected from Lewis' car in the crash. Newport Beach paramedics pronounced Lewis dead at the scene.
Newport Beach officers later spotted the Porsche and stopped its passengers, a male and female, who were seen walking away from the vehicle.
Upon further investigation officers determined that the male, Jeffrey David Kirby, a 51-year-old resident of Costa Mesa, Calif., was the driver of the vehicle.
Kirby was arrested for gross vehicular manslaughter and taken to the Newport Beach Police Department. The female passenger, Lynn Marie Nabozny, a 32-year-old resident of Newport Beach, was arrested for public intoxication and released Wednesday morning.
Kirby's bail is set at $1 million dollars. The results of a blood alcohol test administered at the jail are forthcoming. No further motive for the accident is known at this time, according to Amormino.
Quote from: disco on March 12, 2009, 02:20:16 AM
http://www.ktla.com/content_landing_page/?Woman-Hurt-in-Sex-Mishap-Involving-Power=1&blockID=235930&feedID=1080
KTLA News
March 10, 2009
LEXINGTON PARK, Md.- A woman is recovering after being seriously injured in a mishap involving a sex toy.
A man who called 911 call said he had placed a sex toy over a saber saw blade, and then used the power tool on his partner, but the blade cut through the plastic and injured the woman.
The victim, a 27-year-old woman, was flown to Prince George's hospital center by Maryland State Police helicopter.
County law enforcement officials say no charges will be filed, calling the incident accidental.
just plain awesome. :lol:
Wow that is just crazy :rofl:
let me try convincing lydia... Okay.. I'm going to hook this to a saw...... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
We found this to work the best.
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100594821&N=10000003+90401+503174
I found the rubber grips to be quite comfy and Jenee' liked the long lasting power of the lithium battery.
A 'sorry and ashamed' Bernard Madoff pleads guilty
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090312/ap_on_bi_ge/madoff_scandal
NEW YORK – Saying he was "deeply sorry and ashamed," Bernard Madoff pleaded guilty Thursday to pulling off perhaps the biggest swindle in Wall Street history and was immediately led off to jail in handcuffs to the applause of his seething victims in the courtroom.
U.S. District Judge Denny Chin denied bail for Madoff, 70, and ordered him to jail, noting that he had the means to flee and an incentive to do so because of his age.
Madoff earlier spoke softly but firmly to the judge as he pleaded guilty to 11 charges in his first public comments about his crimes since the scandal broke in early December.
"I am actually grateful for this opportunity to publicly comment about my crimes, for which I am deeply sorry and ashamed," he said.
"As the years went by, I realized my risk and this day would inevitably come. I cannot adequately express how sorry I am for my crimes."
Madoff did not look at any of the three investors who spoke at the hearing, even when one turned in his direction and tried to address him.
The fraud, which prosecutors say may have totaled nearly $65 billion, turned a revered money man into an overnight global disgrace whose name became synonymous with the current economic meltdown.
Madoff described his crimes after he entered a guilty plea to all 11 counts he was charged with, including fraud, perjury, theft from an employee benefit plan, and two counts of international money laundering.
He told the judge that he believed the fraud would be short-term and that he could extricate himself.
Prosecutors say the disgraced financier, who has spent three months under house arrest in his $7 million in Manhattan penthouse, could face a maximum sentence of 150 years in prison at sentencing.
The plea came three months after the FBI claimed Madoff admitted to his sons that his once-revered investment fund was all a big lie — a Ponzi scheme that was in the billions of dollars. Since his arrest in December, the scandal has turned the 70-year-old former Nasdaq chairman into a pariah who has worn a bulletproof vest to court.
The scheme evaporated life fortunes, wiped out charities and apparently pushed at least two investors to commit suicide. Victims big and small were swindled by Madoff, from elderly Florida retirees to actors Kevin Bacon and Kyra Sedgwick and Nobel Peace Prize winner Elie Wiesel.
After arguments began on whether Madoff should remain free on bail, his lawyer Ira Sorkin described the bail conditions and how Madoff had, "at his wife's own expense," paid for private security at his $7 million penthouse.
Loud laughter erupted among some of the more than 100 spectators crammed into the large courtroom on the 24th floor of the federal courthouse in lower Manhattan. The judge warned the spectators to remain silent.
George Nierenberg, the first of the three investors to speak, approached the podium glaring at Madoff, then said in the financier's direction: "I don't know if you had a chance to turn around and look at the victims."
At the hint of a confrontation, a marshal sitting behind Madoff stood up, and the judge directed Nierenberg to speak directly to the bench.
The plea does not end the Madoff saga: Investigators are still undertaking the daunting task of unraveling how he pulled off the fraud for decades without being caught. They suspect that his family and top lieutenants who helped run his operation from its midtown Manhattan headquarters may have been involved.
Madoff's plea was absent a cooperation agreement that would have required him to name potential co-conspirators. But in court documents, prosecutors have indicated that low-level employees were in on the scam and may be cooperating.
Court papers say Madoff hired many people with little or no training or experience in the securities industry to serve as a secretive "back office" for his investment advisory business. He generated or had employees generate "tens of thousands of account statements and other documents through the U.S. Postal Service, operating a massive Ponzi scheme," prosecutors said.
The money was never invested, but was used by Madoff, his business and others, prosecutors said.
Authorities said he confessed to his family that he had carried out a $50 billion fraud. In court documents filed Tuesday, prosecutors raised the size of the fraud to $64.8 billion.
Experts say the actual loss was more likely much less and that higher numbers reflect false profits he promised investors. So far, authorities have located about $1 billion for jilted investors.
In addition to prison time, he said Madoff faces mandatory restitution to victims, forfeiture of ill-gotten gains and criminal fines.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on March 12, 2009, 09:00:02 AM
TapouT founder Lewis dies in hit-and-run accident
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/mma/03/11/tapout.death/index.html?section=si_latest
Charles Lewis Jr. better known to MMA fans as "Mask," was killed in a hit-and-run accident Tuesday night in Newport Beach, Calif.
Lewis was the founder of Tapout Clothing, Inc., and the face of its popular reality show on cable channel Versus. Several sources within the company confirmed his passing.
At 12:57 a.m., a Newport Beach Police cruiser spotted Lewis' red Ferrari and a white Porsche driving out of control on the southbound side of Jamboree Road, according to Lt. Jim Amormino, a public information officer with the Orange County Sherrif's Department.
The Ferrari then struck the curb and hit a utility pole, tearing the car in half. After coming to a brief stop, the Porsche fled the scene.
An unnamed female passenger was ejected from Lewis' car in the crash. Newport Beach paramedics pronounced Lewis dead at the scene.
Newport Beach officers later spotted the Porsche and stopped its passengers, a male and female, who were seen walking away from the vehicle.
Upon further investigation officers determined that the male, Jeffrey David Kirby, a 51-year-old resident of Costa Mesa, Calif., was the driver of the vehicle.
Kirby was arrested for gross vehicular manslaughter and taken to the Newport Beach Police Department. The female passenger, Lynn Marie Nabozny, a 32-year-old resident of Newport Beach, was arrested for public intoxication and released Wednesday morning.
Kirby's bail is set at $1 million dollars. The results of a blood alcohol test administered at the jail are forthcoming. No further motive for the accident is known at this time, according to Amormino.
Saw this post before I went to bed this morning. Cops didn't know who it was at first. The car is completely cut in half.
Video: http://www.ktla.com/video/?autoStart...clipId=3534614
(http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2009/03/11/ferarri.jpg)
Sad that you know what that cop is covering up.
12-year-old boy accused of helping to rob bar
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090313/ap_on_fe_st/odd_preteen_robbery;_ylt=AketqBzwV7Ty0xVh41IlWQ3tiBIF
OMAHA, Neb. – Police have arrested an unlikely suspect in the armed robbery of an eastern Omaha bar — a 12-year-old boy. Police said the boy is one of three people suspected of holding up the California Bar early Thursday morning. Investigators said the boy and two men walked into the Bar around 12:45 a.m., and one of the men pulled a gun. Officers said the 12-year-old and an 18-year-old then demanded money from the Keno register.
Police say the 18-year-old punched a female employee, and the three suspects fled the area.
Officers found and arrested the 18-year-old and the 12-year-old near the scene.
Police continue to search for a third suspect.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on March 12, 2009, 01:55:47 PM
Sad that you know what that cop is covering up.
Thw other pictures of the accident show the rear of the car where the engine is located 500 feet back from the front. Where the cop is standing, there is light pole he is covering up that is blodd stained. I'm sure that's where the body was resting. I saw the pictures on the LA Times website. Very tragic.
~Brian
GO JON STEWART!
CNN Story:
NEW YORK (CNN) -- After a week of pointed verbal barbs, host Jon Stewart sat face-to-face with financial analyst Jim Cramer on Comedy Central's "The Daily Show" and continued the assault Thursday. Stewart blamed Cramer and cable network CNBC for being irresponsible cheerleaders in the lead-up to the stock market meltdown.
Stewart, whose acerbic brand of satire centers largely on the political news of the day, has held Cramer's frenetic, nearly cartoonish, stock-advice show, "Mad Money," and other CNBC programming up as examples of an anything-goes attitude that contributed to the financial collapse.
"I understand you want to make finance entertaining, but it's not a [expletive] game," Stewart said during the recorded interview, segments of which aired on Thursday night. "When I watch that, I can't tell you how angry that makes me."
Stewart's blistering criticism of Cramer this week has included a censored, two-word phrase he spoke into the camera after airing video of Cramer enthusiastically urging viewers to buy stock in Bear Stearns.
The global investment bank and brokerage firm collapsed soon after the comments aired and was eventually sold with stock prices less than one-fifth what they were when Cramer pushed them.
Cramer has fired back. In a string of interviews with NBC news outlets affiliated with CNBC, Cramer disputed some of Stewart's claims and noted times he's made more cautious comments about the economy.
In one interview, he sarcastically feigned distress at being attacked by a comedian and, on an appearance on Thursday's "The Martha Stewart Show," pounded a wad of dough with a rolling pin, pretending it was Stewart's face.
"Mr. Cramer, don't you destroy enough dough on your own show ... ?" Stewart said early in the program.
After declaring he's a "big fan of the show," Cramer appeared contrite during the interview.
"I think that everyone could come in under criticism because we all should have seen it more," Cramer said. "I don't think anyone should be spared in this environment."
Cramer pushed back very little in an interview far more serious than most that Stewart conducts. iReport.com: Stewart 'demolished' Cramer
He complained when Stewart suggested CNBC's reporters are "in bed" with Wall Street financiers and said he's worked with government officials to try to crack down on abuses in the industry.
"Absolutely, there's shenanigans, and we should call them out," Cramer said. "Everyone should. I should do a better job at it."
Stewart did call it "unfortunate" that Cramer has become the prime whipping boy in a larger complaint -- "the gap between what CNBC advertises itself as and what it is."
"We're both snake-oil salesmen to a certain extent," Stewart said. "But we do label it 'snake oil' here."
~Brian
Man.. Stewart calls it like it is! :lol:
I like the shit out of him and Colbert.
~Brian
Colbert is a straight up badass.. He tells it like it is.. No sugar coating what so ever.
I like his callout on bush he did a while back.
Quote from: Krandall on March 13, 2009, 08:57:44 AM
Colbert is a straight up badass.. He tells it like it is.. No sugar coating what so ever.
I like his callout on bush he did a while back.
Not to mention, he's really funny.
:thumbs:
~Brian
SALT LAKE CITY -- Police arrested two people after a fight broke out at a Salt Lake convenience store Thursday night. Officers say one of the suspects used a broken coffee pot as a weapon.
Police don't know what caused the altercation between several people outside the 7-Eleven at 109 E. 300 South around 8 p.m. But after a few minutes, it moved inside.
One of the men involved in the fight grabbed a coffee pot.
Lt. Craig Gleason of the Salt Lake City Police Department said, "It was first like a blunt object he was trying to strike them with, but it broke and became an edged weapon."
Officers arrived to find the man chasing people with the broken pot. He refused to stop so they used a Taser on him.
The man fell on his makeshift weapon, cutting his upper body and cheek.
He was taken into custody along with a woman involved in the fight.
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=5838944
:lol:
Coffee pot for the win! :clap:
I love the mock interviews they do on that show.
Fucking idiots living down south in Utah county. Bunch of GD Mormons. First ten foot walls now this shit. It'll never pass but just want to know why we got the whole shipment of idiots!
SALT LAKE CITY -- A proposal to tax caffeine in Utah is being met with skepticism, even outrage, from people who cherish their diet colas and coffees.
"It's like taxing candy. You shouldn't do that," one man told us.
Another said, "I don't think that you necessarily need to tax everything that's bad for you, or someone thinks is bad for you."
The state lawmaker proposing the tax is Rep. Craig Frank, R-American Fork. He tells the Salt Lake Tribune the state already taxes addicted smokers, so why not target a broader-based addiction?
Frank says it's a response to proposals to hike the tax on cigarettes. Those measures failed this legislative session.
This is part of a master study resolution that lawmakers unanimously approved, so it will get a closer look over the next year.
Frank told the Tribune he has seen research that caffeine can cause spontaneous abortion, psychological abnormalities and other disorders.
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=5829408
WTF is going on in Utah?
Damn.
~Brian
It's called the Mormons.
I was originally going to put that but didn't know if ya'll non Utards would get it. Thanks for the change!
More Utarded people
Family finds intoxicated stranger in their bathroom
March 13th, 2009 @ 12:10pm
SALT LAKE CITY -- A family awoke just after midnight Friday morning to find a stranger in their bathroom.
Police say the man walked into a house near 25th South and Lincoln Street shortly after midnight Friday. When the homeowner confronted him, the suspect said he'd been at a party, and must have walked into the wrong house.
Lt. James Tracy of the Salt Lake City Police Department said, "The gentleman asked the man what he was doing in his house, and the guy, or the suspect, said basically he was at a party and walked into the wrong house."
Police say the homeowner tried to hold the man until officers arrived, but he got away and ran through the neighborhood.
Brad Wright, 21, was arrested after a short chase through parts of the Forest Dale Golf Course. A police dog tracked him and found him hiding in a nearby garage.
Wright was booked into jail for trespassing, public intoxication and fleeing.
Police say people might be surprised how often they respond to intoxicated subjects who've walked into the wrong house. The homeowner, though, thinks something else may have been afoot. Later that morning, he found evidence that somebody had tried to break into his van.
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=5840840
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Man, that guy needs some friends! They are supposed to help you not walk into the wrong house!
Maybe he has friends like people from the RS and they helped him into the wrong house.
Home next to Playboy mansion selling for 28M dlrs
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090313/en_afp/ushousingsexpeople
LOS ANGELES (AFP) – Playboy sex empire founder Hugh Hefner has put his family home for sale in California for nearly 28 million dollars, the Los Angeles Times reported Friday.
A cool 27,995,000 dollars could get you living right next door to the Playboy Mansion, known for the sex king's extravagant parties.
The two-story, 7,300-square-foot (700 square meters) English manor-style personal residence was built in 1929 and purchased by Hefner in 1998.
It has five bedrooms, seven bathrooms, a library and commons for staff. Some of the walls are hand-painted, and there is a hand-carved staircase.
The home sits on 2.3 acres (one hectare), borders the Los Angeles Country Club and has a pool.
Hefner, who turns 83 next month, owns the house with his second wife, Kimberley, who was Playboy's Playmate of the Year in 1989. The couple is separated but has two sons, who are soon to head to college.
Hefner has lived at the neighboring Playboy Mansion with three young women for the past several years.
C'mon lottery!
~Brian
Seriously.. think of the possibilities! :clap: :clap: :clap:
If you were married, you would soon be single.
:lol:
~Brian
just gotta find ya one of them freaks that's down for whatever. :grin_nod: :clap:
Quote from: Krandall on March 13, 2009, 04:22:07 PM
just gotta find ya one of them freaks that's down for whatever. :grin_nod: :clap:
Done.
~Brian
:clap:
Then you're all set b-dawg! :grin_nod:
Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy?
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1884956,00.html?iid=digg_share
Just a snipet of the article.
Could marijuana be the answer to the economic misery facing California? Democratic state assemblyman Tom Ammiano thinks so. Ammiano introduced legislation last month that would legalize pot and allow the state to regulate and tax its sale — a move that could mean billions of dollars for the cash-strapped state. Pot is, after all, California's biggest cash crop, responsible for $14 billion a year in sales, dwarfing the state's second largest agricultural commodity — milk and cream — which brings in $7.3 billion a year, according to the most recent USDA statistics. The state's tax collectors estimate the bill would bring in about $1.3 billion a year in much needed revenue, offsetting some of the billions of dollars in service cuts and spending reductions outlined in the recently approved state budget.
Scientists Invent Floatiest Material On Earth
http://i.gizmodo.com/5169188/scientists-invent-floatiest-material-on-earth
Bugs that skate on water can do it because their feet are "superhydrophobic." Chinese scientists applied a similar coating to a tiny copper mesh boat, and suddenly it could hold three times the weight.
It's actually crazy: The superhydrophobic coating—what the scientists are casually calling "the cooperative effect of hierarchical micro/nanostructures and a low-surface-energy wax coating"—creates a cushion of air around the boat (or the bug's leg), putting an invisible bubble between it and the water. The boat is literally floating on air, while the water tries to touch it but can't. What's creepy is that the coated boats sink immediately when immersed in organic liquids like ethanol and acetone.
Now that these scientists discovered ways to make super-buoyant objects, what can be done? They predict a new era of "novel superfloating and drag-reducing aquatic devices," by which they mean, either cybernetic death from the sea, or the biggest, sleekest, craziest yacht you'll ever only see pictures of because you won't even know people who know people who will be able to afford it.
Whata friend!!!!
Teen hands out thousands of dollars after finding drug money
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-090312-teen-hands-out-drug-money,0,2171083.story
MINNEAPOLIS -- A Minnesota teen got to play high roller for a day after finding a plastic bag containing $18,000 in a highway ditch, and he gave away thousands of dollars to classmates on Tuesday before authorities got involved.
Dakota County officials are releasing few details about the source of the money, but they have a pretty compelling clue: When the student, a 16-year-old from Rosemount, Minn., led them back to the spot where he found the money, they discovered 4 pounds of marijuana and some scales.
"This is tied in to drugs, obviously," said Sgt. Joe Leku of the Dakota County Drug Task Force. He would not disclose other details of the case, saying it could jeopardize the investigation.
Investigators learned that a student had been handing out $100 bills when a school bus company reported it to a school resource officer on Tuesday, said Chief Dakota County Deputy David Bellows. The boy had given out thousands of dollars before deputies started going back and collecting the money. They recovered almost all of it, Bellows said.
When the boy first told them he'd found the money in a ditch, investigators were skeptical.
"Having dealt with kids, you get a lot of stories," Bellows said. "Finding it in the ditch is a great story, but it's one that clearly seems to be taken off the top of their head."
But when they checked out the ditch, near Pilot Knob Road and 195th Street in Farmington, Minn., they found the drugs. Bellows said the Sheriff's Office believes somebody threw the drugs and money out of a car window because they thought they were being tailed by police.
The boy apparently found the money while walking on a bike path on the way to school, Bellows said.
"Police everywhere, take note that even the most far-fetched excuses sometimes become true," Bellows said.
The boy attends the Alliance Education Center, a Rosemount special education school that's part of Intermediate School District 197, which provides special education and vocational training to students in eight south-metro districts.
If I found $18,000 I wouldn't be flashing it around.
~Brian
Quote from: Krandall on March 13, 2009, 04:41:41 PM
Whata friend!!!!
Teen hands out thousands of dollars after finding drug money
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-090312-teen-hands-out-drug-money,0,2171083.story
MINNEAPOLIS -- A Minnesota teen got to play high roller for a day after finding a plastic bag containing $18,000 in a highway ditch, and he gave away thousands of dollars to classmates on Tuesday before authorities got involved.
Dakota County officials are releasing few details about the source of the money, but they have a pretty compelling clue: When the student, a 16-year-old from Rosemount, Minn., led them back to the spot where he found the money, they discovered 4 pounds of marijuana and some scales.
"This is tied in to drugs, obviously," said Sgt. Joe Leku of the Dakota County Drug Task Force. He would not disclose other details of the case, saying it could jeopardize the investigation.
Investigators learned that a student had been handing out $100 bills when a school bus company reported it to a school resource officer on Tuesday, said Chief Dakota County Deputy David Bellows. The boy had given out thousands of dollars before deputies started going back and collecting the money. They recovered almost all of it, Bellows said.
When the boy first told them he'd found the money in a ditch, investigators were skeptical.
"Having dealt with kids, you get a lot of stories," Bellows said. "Finding it in the ditch is a great story, but it's one that clearly seems to be taken off the top of their head."
But when they checked out the ditch, near Pilot Knob Road and 195th Street in Farmington, Minn., they found the drugs. Bellows said the Sheriff's Office believes somebody threw the drugs and money out of a car window because they thought they were being tailed by police.
The boy apparently found the money while walking on a bike path on the way to school, Bellows said.
"Police everywhere, take note that even the most far-fetched excuses sometimes become true," Bellows said.
The boy attends the Alliance Education Center, a Rosemount special education school that's part of Intermediate School District 197, which provides special education and vocational training to students in eight south-metro districts.
I have been looking for that, thanks for the post. :lol:
I don't think i like my friends that much anymore...........i was sitting here thinking "what would i do?".........definetely would not be handing it out. Then again i would probably have found the drugs too, and sold them to peels to make my cash stash grow :thumbs:
Hell yeah!
:lol:
~Brian
March 14--A Iowa man was arrested yesterday after he was spotted fondling and making out with a pair of blow-up dolls in a supermarket parking lot. Shoppers called cops when they spotted Eric Pealer, getting busy in the front seat of his automobile, which was parked directly in front of a public store. Evidence photos (seen below and here) showing Pealer's inanimate partners were provided to Raptorsource.com by the New London Police Department. According to a police report, witnesses told cops that Pealer was "performing activity to two different blow up dolls in his vehicle that was consistent with masturbation and other simulated sexual activity." He was also spotted "aggressively" kissing the dolls. When confronted by police, Pealer said that he was headed to Target to "get some clothes for his dolls." Pealer, charged with breach of peace, was wearing shorts with a three-inch opening "in the crotch area." Of course, he "had no underwear on under the shorts," noted police.
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art4/0205091doll1b.jpg)
:lol:
~Brian
Apparently this plastic pervert also like Reese's! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Brian...I am shocked and appauled. :confused:
You'll never catch me in a Lincoln. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:rofl: :rofl:
Damnit man!
A Lincoln!?!?!?!????
Im so disapointed..
story via tweaktimes.net:
Arkansas State Police Baffled by Overloaded Servers.
Residents in the Ft. Smith Arkansas area awoke this morning, unable to connect to the Web. After countless hours of investigation, the source of the problem was traced to the home of Brian Sheppard, a local Auto Sales Rep. The overload of the servers began when Mr. Sheppard accidentally uploaded pornographic material from his home PC. "we are absolutely astonished by the sheer amount of material" said Lt. Bob Johnson. "We tried to erase all the files, but when they went into the recycle bin, they overloaded that as well"
Police finally arrived at Sheppard's house, to find him half naked, crying in front of his computer. He was so overweight, and, he hadn't moved in days.
(http://api.ning.com/files/v7vDe2vLa*wdWRZI6yUpjja7lxyKLPmM-2L9c85eCnoLwjQ-MNxcEw3DBup3pcGbLUq2fJ-Iy9ZLx7U6ERjxEMX5DdGWeYeZ/obese_fat_guy.jpg)
Police confronted him, but they got no response, only moderate grunting. Apparently, when his computer became devoid of porn, he was unable to function. This, combined with the failure of the internet to open, caused a stroke, and Mr. Sheppard became incapacitated. They were finally able to get him to move by dangling a danish in front of his face, and promising him a visit from many small asian boys. When asked why he was so upset, and so overweight. Brian replied: "I am just not what I used to be" As he pointed to a picture of him and his lovely ex-wife on the wall behind his desk:
(http://thecheekofgod.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/110208-0155-thetamingof3.jpg)
We are happy to report Mr. Sheppard is doing well after a shower and a shave.
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t17/MonteCristoHakushaku/fat%20people/NudeFatGuy.jpg)
The pornographic material, which totaled over 9000 gb of memory, was copied onto it's own server, to be inspected by psych. officials at a local hospital. The internet was back in business as of 5pm local time. No charges were filed as of yet, since this gigantic amount of porn is unprecendented.
:bird: :lol:
:rofl:
Good one!
:lol:
Bastard.
~Brian
Boy, 3, speared through torso with 3-foot iron rod, liver injuredArticle
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25192513-5006003,00.html
THREE-YEAR-OLD Mehul Kumar is lucky to be alive after being speared through the torso with a 3-foot (1 metre) iron rod.
The boy, from Jharkand, India, was rushed to the hospital after he impaled himself falling off a terrace and onto a rod last week.
The boy was fully conscious when he arrived at the hospital. Doctors removed the rod during a 4-hour operation and said he had lost a lot of blood and suffered some injuries, but "nothing major."
"Opening the abdomen, we discovered his liver was injured, the stomach was injured, but thankfully, the spleen and pancreas were safe," said surgeon Sandeep Aggarwal said. "The child was lucky that he did not suffer any major injury but yes he had substantial injuries."
Aggarwal praised Mehul for his strong willpower.
Mehul was playing with colours on the terrace when he fell on an iron rod left standing on the under-construction terrace, his uncle Raja Kumar Vishwakarma said. The rod pierced through his body and then broke, resulting in his fall from the roof.
In July last year, Supratim Dutta had similarly been impaled by a 5-foot long (1.5 metre) iron bar that had pierced through his chest in New Delhi. Supratim was saved by the doctors of All India Institute of Medical Sciences.
(http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6532676,00.jpg)
Wow.
He's a lucky kid!
The nice thing about the liver is if you remove part of it, it can grow back!
~Brian
More Utards
Man arrested after attacking woman with deer antlers
March 16th, 2009 @ 4:11pm
By Marc Giauque
WEST VALLEY CITY -- A West Valley man faces felony and other charges for attacking his girlfriend with a set of deer antlers. It happened over the weekend at an apartment complex near 3600 South and 2900 West.
West Valley police Capt. Tom McLachlan says the man beat the victim's face with his fist, breaking her nose, then at some point grabbed a set of deer antlers and hit her in the back of the head. McLachlan says the force of the blow was strong enough to break the antlers.
"I'm not surprised that people use various objects in a domestic violence. I mean, obviously it's a very emotional time, and if they're prone to that, they grab what's at hand," McLachlan said.
The woman suffered lacerations and various other bumps and bruises but was not seriously hurt.
Police responding to the scene discovered the suspect had fled. They used a blood hound to track him to a field not far away.
Christian B. Christensen, 35, was booked into jail on a felony aggravated assault charge and several misdemeanor charges, including committing domestic violence in the presence of a child.
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=5871721
Now if she was screaming at the cops, "Don't take'em away, I love him" that would indicate they are of the genus niveus purgamentum, most likely from the southern United States.
Please note "take'em" is pronounced "take-EEM".
http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Translate/result.shtml latin to english translator
:lol:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090317/ap_on_fe_st/odd_dog_act;_ylt=Am6Bgyy0iYrOLLS.FW1bNCftiBIF
La. police arrest growling man on drug charges
MANSFIELD, La. – Authorities arrested a 32-year-old Texas man on drug charges on Thursday after construction workers saw him on his hands and knees, eating mud and growling like a dog. A woman who accompanied the man from Texas told investigators he had been wandering around the complex and eating dog food.
Sheriff's Lt. Horace Womack said a small bottle of PCP, a half-pound of marijuana and one-fourth ounce of crack cocaine were seized during the man's arrest.
The man was booked with possessing all three drugs with intent to distribute them. He was placed in a cell where jailers at the DeSoto Detention Center could keep an eye on him.
Quote from: Krandall on March 17, 2009, 08:25:15 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090317/ap_on_fe_st/odd_dog_act;_ylt=Am6Bgyy0iYrOLLS.FW1bNCftiBIF
La. police arrest growling man on drug charges
MANSFIELD, La. – Authorities arrested a 32-year-old Texas man on drug charges on Thursday after construction workers saw him on his hands and knees, eating mud and growling like a dog. A woman who accompanied the man from Texas told investigators he had been wandering around the complex and eating dog food.
Sheriff's Lt. Horace Womack said a small bottle of PCP, a half-pound of marijuana and one-fourth ounce of crack cocaine were seized during the man's arrest.
The man was booked with possessing all three drugs with intent to distribute them. He was placed in a cell where jailers at the DeSoto Detention Center could keep an eye on him.
Nothing like a PCP high.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on March 17, 2009, 08:29:04 AM
Quote from: Krandall on March 17, 2009, 08:25:15 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090317/ap_on_fe_st/odd_dog_act;_ylt=Am6Bgyy0iYrOLLS.FW1bNCftiBIF
La. police arrest growling man on drug charges
MANSFIELD, La. – Authorities arrested a 32-year-old Texas man on drug charges on Thursday after construction workers saw him on his hands and knees, eating mud and growling like a dog. A woman who accompanied the man from Texas told investigators he had been wandering around the complex and eating dog food.
Sheriff's Lt. Horace Womack said a small bottle of PCP, a half-pound of marijuana and one-fourth ounce of crack cocaine were seized during the man's arrest.
The man was booked with possessing all three drugs with intent to distribute them. He was placed in a cell where jailers at the DeSoto Detention Center could keep an eye on him.
Nothing like a PCP high.
:lol:
~Brian
You ain't just a' whistlin' dixie! :rofl:
I hear PCP can make you fly!
:lol:
~Brian
Talk about your all-time backfires....
MARCH 18, 2008
Meet Michelle Owen.
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art4/0318091dog1.jpg)
Concerned that an ex-boyfriend had used her laptop to search for child pornography, the Indiana woman asked police to search the computer for illegal images, but had her plan backfire when cops discovered two videos of her engaged in illicit acts with a dog. Owen, 24, was charged last week with two felony bestiality counts in connection with the video files, which a detective found in the laptop's "recycle bin." At the time Owen asked cops to search the computer, she was locked up in the Johnson County Jail on a public intoxication charge (which violated the terms of her release in a prior drunk driving case). According to a police affidavit, a copy of which you'll find here, a cop told Owen that he had found videos of her on the laptop and asked if she "knew what those files might be." Owen, pictured in the below mug shot, replied, "The one with the dog." Cops believe that the dog in question, Toby, is a beagle. After asking if she was "going to be charged with this," Owen said that the videos "were just something she did when she was drunk and barely remembers it," adding that she tried to "delete them the next day when she was sober." (4 pages)
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art4/0318091dog2.gif)
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art4/0318091dog3.gif)
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art4/0318091dog4.gif)
~Brian
Lucky kid
ERMAHGERD... That is HILLARIOUS BRIAN! :rofl:
:rofl: she got caught fucking a dog
Pretty sick shit, eh?
"Uh, that thing with the dog?"
"I was drunk, I barely remember it licked my pussy."
:rofl:
~Brian
Quote from: BRAD on March 18, 2009, 10:21:29 AM
:rofl: she got caught f :mad: cking a dog
just the dog lickin her snatch
Quote from: BRAD on March 18, 2009, 10:21:29 AM
:rofl: she got caught f :mad: cking a dog
Maybe you can give her a call Brad, and give her some guidance. Since you have experience in the matter. :lol:
but seriously, that is some funny $hit.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/aig_outrage
AIG head shares US anger of bonuses but backs them
What a bunch of f*ck tards.
WASHINGTON – The chief executive officer of failed insurance conglomerate AIG acknowledged Wednesday that the company's multimillion-dollar bonuses were "distasteful" to many and had provoked a firestorm of wrath.
"I share that anger," Edward Liddy, chairman and CEO of the American International Group Inc., said in testimony prepared for Congress.
Lawmakers from both parties expressed fury over the company's behavior. For the American public, AIG now stands for "arrogance, incompetence and greed," said Rep. Paul Hodes, D-N.H.
Liddy, in his written remarks, said, "Mistakes were made at AIG on a scale few could have every imagined possible."
But, he also said that the roughly $165 million in bonuses paid out over the weekend should be honored as a legal commitment of the United States government, which now owns 80 percent of the battered insurer.
"When you owe someone money, you pay that money back," Liddy maintained. "We at AIG want to believe that we are all in this together," said the man named six months ago to take over the company as part of the government rescue. Some $170 billion in tax money has now been pledged to AIG.
Meanwhile, the agency that oversees AIG said that, while its criticism of the company's practices had sharpened over the past five years, it failed to recognize the extent of risk posed by the exotic financial instruments the insurance company offered, many of them tied to a housing market that had long been rising.
Scott Polakoff, acting director of the Office of Thrift Supervision, said regulators failed to accurately predict what would happen to AIG's so-called credit default swaps — a form of insurance — if housing values collapsed, as they have. "There are a lot of people walking around who failed to understand how bad the real estate market had gotten," he said.
Liddy's stance that the bonuses should be honored, no matter how distasteful, drew sharp comments from both parties.
It is "time for us to assert our ownership rights," said Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chairman of the full Financial Services committee. Frank said Congress will be asking for the names of the bonus recipients — and if AIG declines to provide it, he will convene the committee to subpoena for the names. "We do intend to use our power to get the names," he said.
Rep. Scott Garrett of New Jersey, the senior Republican on the subcommittee, complained that the administration still has no exit strategy for disentangling itself from the insurance giant.
"Part of me wants to say to some of the loudest critics, `What did you expect and why weren't you asking more questions before?' I would argue that the real outrage now is the $170 billion of taxpayer moneys that's been pumped into this company and to what effect," he said.
Rep. Gary Ackerman, D-N.Y., cited a "tidal wave of rage" throughout America right now.
AIG is under fire for $220 million in retention bonuses paid to employees in its troubled financial products division. The most recent payment of $165 million began to be paid last Friday and caused a furor.
The retention payments — ranging from $1,000 to nearly $6.5 million — were put together in early 2008, long before then-Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson asked Liddy to take over the company. Liddy himself is not getting a bonus and is only drawing $1 a year in salary.
Liddy also said in his prepared testimony that AIG grew into an internal hedge fund that became overexposed to market risks. AIG is the largest recipient of federal government emergency assistance.
"No one knows better than I that AIG has been the recipient of generous amounts of governmental financial aid. We have been the beneficiary of the American people's forbearance and patience," he said. But he also said that "we have to continue managing our business as a business — taking account of the cold realities of competition for customers, for revenues and for employees."
The clamor over compensation overshadowed AIG's weekend disclosure that it used more than $90 billion in federal aid to pay out to foreign and domestic banks, including some that had multibillion-dollar U.S. government bailouts of their own. AIG is the single largest recipient of government assistance — a company whose financial transactions were so intricate and intertwined that it was considered simply too big to fail.
Orice Williams, director of financial markets and community investment at the Government Accountability Office, the government's top watchdog agency, told the panel that the government's intervention helped AIG avoid failure, but that the company is still struggling to pay back the money.
Market and other conditions have prevented the insurer from making significant asset sales, she testified. She said most restructuring efforts are still under way.
Liddy said the company's new management team found its overall structure "too complex, too unwieldy and too opaque for its component businesses to be well managed as one company."
He said the new managers have "addressed our liquidity crisis and stabilized the company's cash position" and is winding down the financial products side of the business.
The White House and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, both of whom have condemned the bonus payments, have been pounded by questions about why they did not know about the bonus payments sooner.
The White House for the first time on Tuesday night said Geithner learned of the impending bonus payments a week ago Tuesday; he told the White House about them last Thursday, and senior aides informed President Barack Obama later that day.
Geithner said on Tuesday he was working with the Justice Department to find ways to recover some of the payments. He cited a provision in the recent economic stimulus law that gave him authority to review compensation to the most highly paid employees of companies that already have received federal assistance.
73 peeps recieved a $1,000,000 bonus. 11 of which no longer work for AIG.
Go on take the money and run!
I hope they tax the f*ck out of them. AIG sent BILLIONS to foreign banks after they received their loan from the government.
Pricks.
~Brian
If I were those guys, and kept the money...I would GTFO for abit and lay low. People are gonna hate them....I mean already do. :grin_nod:
Same thing with the old Pres. of Kodak...the guy who didn't invest in digital imaging. Almost singlehandedly destroyed the company. People in Rochester NY hated him so much, he moved out of town because of vandalism, and flew to work. When he would do facility tours, he traveled with armed gunmen who swept the area for bugs. :lol:
He was the guy who decided to put all their $ in film development. :lol: 20,000 out of a job in under 5 years.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20090318/sc_space/bathungonforarideintospace
Bat Hung On For a Ride Into Space
A small bat that was spotted blasting off with the space shuttle Sunday and clinging to the back side of Discovery's external fuel tank apparently held on throughout the launch.
NASA hoped the bat would fly away before the spacecraft's Sunday evening liftoff, but photos from the launch now show the bat holding on for dear life throughout the fiery ride.
"He did change the direction he was pointing from time to time throughout countdown but ultimately never flew away," states a NASA memo obtained by SPACE.com. "Infrared imagery shows he was alive and not frozen like many would think ... Liftoff imagery analysis confirmed that he held on until at least the vehicle cleared [the] tower before we lost sight of him."
Officials at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral, Fla., where Discovery launched from a seaside pad, said the bat's outlook after launch appears grim.
"Based on images and video, a wildlife expert who provides support to the center said the small creature was a free tail bat that likely had a broken left wing and some problem with its right shoulder or wrist," NASA officials said Tuesday. "The animal likely perished quickly during Discovery's climb into orbit."
Because the Kennedy Space Center is also home to Florida's Merritt Island National Wildlife Refuge, NASA's launch pads are equipped with several countermeasures, including warning sirens, to ward off birds and other wildlife. NASA also relies on radar to make sure large flocks of birds won't be struck by the shuttle during liftoff.
But the bat on Discovery's tank did not budge, even after engine ignition.
The bat was perched between one quarter and one third of the way up on the north side of the fuel tank, which is the side that faces away from the orbiter. NASA estimated the surface temperature of the tank at that location was between 58 and 70 degrees Fahrenheit, even though the canister was filled with super-cold liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen.
In the hours before Discovery's liftoff, NASA's Final Inspection Team (called the "ICE team") investigated whether the creature would pose a risk to the shuttle if its body impacted the orbiter's sensitive heat shield tiling. Ultimately, NASA officials signed a waiver confirming that the bat was safe to fly with.
"The bat eventually became 'Interim Problem Report 119V-0080' after the ICE team finished their walkdown," the memo said. "Systems Engineering and Integration performed a debris analysis on him and ultimately a Launch Commit Criteria waiver to ICE-01 was written to accept the stowaway."
This isn't the first time a bat has attempted to travel into space. Another bat was seen clinging to the side of the external tank attached to the shuttle Endeavour on its STS-72 flight in 1996. That one maybe have been a bit more cautious, though: It flew away to safety right before launch.
Coincidentally, an astronaut aboard that flight, Koichi Wakata of Japan, also flew on Discovery this week, making him the first spaceflyer to share two rides with bats. Discovery's STS-119 mission is headed to the International Space Station to drop off the final segment of the lab's backbone truss and set of solar array panels.
NASA officials said a bat also set down on the external tank for the shuttle Columbia during its STS-90 mission in 1998. That bat also flitted away to safety during liftoff, they added.
SPACE.com is providing continuous coverage of STS-119 with reporter Clara Moskowitz and senior editor Tariq Malik in New York. Click here for mission updates and SPACE.com's live NASA TV video feed.
Poor little 'bugga.
~Brian
exactly what I was thinking. :(
CNN's website had photos of the bat clinging to the tank.
~Brian
Jenna Jameson pulls two guys out of her
(http://thesuperficial.com/2009/03/17/0317_jenna_jameson_prego_00.jpg)
Jenna Jameson gave birth to twin boys Monday morning, according to Us Magazine:
"They're in very good health," her rep tells Us.
"She's been taking it easy and even had to be in a wheelchair during one of Tito's events in Las Vegas," a source told Us when Jameson was just shy of eight months pregnant. "She's very excited to be a mom."
Early reports say both babies were able to walk right out of the birth canal standing straight up. Doctors proclaimed it a miracle until Peter North backed his Mercedes out and drove to Starbucks. So that's where he's been....
:lol:
~Brian
The botox in her face is going to ruin her in 10 years.
Mother f*ckers.
Crude closed at $33.87 a barrel earlier this winter, and that's likely the lowest we'll see for some time.
Oil prices crossed the $50 a barrel mark Thursday, the first time since early January. Thursday's uptick is largely due to the falling dollar, but the underlying fundamentals in the oil market indicate low prices are behind us.
While demand remains abysmal, production cuts from OPEC and scaled-back investments from oil companies are beginning to curtail supplies.
That, say analysts, means crude prices won't likely trade below the $40 range they've been locked in for the last three weeks.
"OPEC cuts are taking hold," Adam Sieminski, chief energy economist at Deutsche Bank, wrote in a recent research note. "Looking into the second quarter we believe oil prices are starting to find a floor."
OPEC has been ratcheting back production since late last year. While the cartel often has trouble making some cash-strapped members actually comply with the production cuts, this time around nearly everyone is on board.
OPEC has announced production cuts totaling 4.2 million barrels a day, and is thought to have achieved at least 80% of that so far, according to the research firm Platts.
Production in non-OPEC countries has also tightened, as deteriorating economic conditions force companies to cut back their exploration and production efforts.
0:00 /4:29Shell's offshore priorities
All this is beginning to show up in U.S. inventories.
During the first part of the year, crude oil stored at refineries, tank farms and other places in the U.S. soared, often swelling by 5 or 6 million barrels a week, according to the government's Energy Information Administration.
Now those gains have been cut way back. Wednesday showed a gain of 2 million barrels, but the week before inventories dropped by 200,000 barrels.
"All these are signs that the physical market is tightening," said Nauman Barakat, an energy trader at Macquarie Futures, the trading arm of Macquarie investment bank.
Demand is the other side of the oil price equation.
At first glance the numbers seem terrible.
February demand for oil in the U.S. was at its lowest level since 1999, according to the American Petroleum Institute.
Diesel, used in trucks and trains, was particularly hard hit as freight shipments have been slashed during the recession, dropped a staggering 12%, according to API.
But that's not the whole story.
Gasoline demand in the U.S. actually rose 2%, which API said may be attributed to lower gas prices.
And overseas much has been made of China's drop in oil imports. But Barakat said those numbers may be misleading, as they compare to a period last year when the country was stockpiling oil ahead of the Olympic games.
"You could make a compelling case for stability, maybe even higher prices" in the coming months, said Paul Smith, chief risk officer for Mobius Risk Group, which secures energy contracts for producers and users of oil.
Long way from $147
But if prices may creep higher over the next several months, no one is calling for a return to last summer's record prices anytime soon.
First off, when OPEC decided to hold off on another production cut at its meeting last weekend, analysts took it as a sign that the cartel is keen to keep prices low to protect the economy.
"Leading OPEC members, particularly Saudi Arabia, do not want to risk - even if a low probability - a potential over-tightening of production which could send prices quickly back above $60 per barrel," Greg Priddy, global oil analyst at the consultancy Eurasia Group, wrote in a research report earlier this week.
But more important is the amount of capacity the world now has. When oil passed $147 last summer, the difference between what the world could produce and what it consumed had narrowed to 1 or 2 million barrels a day.
That narrow margin brought geopolitics into play, as a supply disruption from one part of the world would mean there may suddenly be a shortage of oil.
The specter of an actual shortage - and the surge in prices that would surely follow - attracted investors, who at the time could borrow vast sums of money and push prices even higher.
A return to all those conditions is needed before anyone thinks crude will test those old highs. Most importantly, that margin of production must return to the 1 or 2 million barrels a day range from its current fluffy cushion of 4 or 5 million barrels a day.
For that to happen, the world's economy needs to start humming again.
~Brian
I have no problem w/ gas being @ $2.... honestly.. But if it gets above 2.00 you bet people will start screaming.
too late here.........we are expected to get back to $3 a gallon by the end of the summer if it keeps rising the way it is
2 US Navy vessels collide in Strait of Hormuz
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090320/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_us_navy_ships_collide
MANAMA, Bahrain – Two U.S. Navy vessels — a nuclear-powered submarine and an amphibious ship — collided before dawn Friday in the mouth of the Persian Gulf, one of the world's most important sea passages for oil supplies.
There was no damage to the sub's nuclear propulsion system and no disruption to shipping in the strategic Strait of Hormuz, through which a fifth of the world's oil passes, said Navy spokesman Lt. Nate Christensen, with the Bahrain-based 5th Fleet.
Still, the unusual collision between members of the same navy sparked a sudden rise in oil prices — which had been declining on the day — even though the strait remained open.
Benchmark crude for April delivery had traded lower for most of the morning, but then erased those losses and rose 39 cents to $52 on the New York Mercantile Exchange. In London, Brent prices rose 50 cents to $51.17 on the ICE Futures exchange.
Still, with pressure pulling prices down in the financial crisis, the rise was nowhere near what would have been expected months ago, when such a collision would likely have sent prices skyrocketing.
The incident occurred around 1:00 a.m. local time Friday (5 p.m. EDT, Thursday), when the USS Hartford, a submarine, and the USS New Orleans, an amphibious ship, collided into each other in the narrow Strait of Hormuz, the 5th Fleet said in a statement.
The New Orleans suffered a ruptured fuel tank, resulting in an oil spill of approximately 25,000 gallons (95,000 liters) of diesel fuel, Christensen said.
According to the Bahrain-based 5th Fleet, 15 sailors aboard the Hartford were slightly injured but able to return to duty. No injuries were reported aboard the New Orleans and both ships are currently operating under their own power.
"The spill is closely monitored," Christensen said. "The lightweight diesel, although obviously a fairly substantial amount of gasoline, likely dissipated in the ocean."
Military analyst Loren Thompson of the U.S.-based Lexington Institute said a collision between two vessels in the world's most sophisticated navy is nearly unheard of. It's more common for ships of different navies to collide, or military vessels and commercial ships, he said.
"It's almost inevitable that people are relieved of duty pending investigation," Thomson told The Associated Press by phone. "These sort of accidents are so uncommon that you have to take it for granted that a major mistake occured by one of the vessels' captains."
Both ships were heading to port and were going in the same direction when the incident occurred in the narrow Hormuz, said Christensen. He said the submarine was submerged at the time but that he could give no further details as the collision is still under investigation.
Later Friday, the vessels were on their way to port for repairs and evaluation, added Christensen. Following standard security procedures he could not say where the vessels were headed.
Hormuz at its narrowest is 34 miles (54 kilometers) wide but the location of the collision was not disclosed.
The two ships were on regularly scheduled deployments to the region and conducting security operations, the Navy said. The Hartford is based in Groton, Conn. and the New Orleans is based in San Diego, Calif. As all U.S. submarines, the Hartford is nuclear powered. The New Orleans is an amphibious transport dock ship.
As much as 17 million barrels of oil a day went through the narrow strait in the first half of 2008, or about 40 percent of all seaborne traded oil or 20 percent of all oil traded globally.
Gmail Gets A Panic Button
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/03/19/gmail-gets-a-panic-button/
Have you ever sent an email, and just as it was going on its merry way, you realize you misspelled something or you sent it to the wrong person. This happens to me a lot on Gmail because sending an email is not always instant. And you have more chances to experience email regret as you are waiting for one to send.
Well, now you can take advantage of that delay to "undo" the message. (Not to be confused with Gmail Goggles, which is geared more at preventing drunken emails from ever being sent out in the first place). Just enable the feature in Gmail Labs in Settings (Scroll down, it is not at the top for some reason). It only works during that 5 second delay between the time you hit send and the time that Gmail actually sends the message.
What I like about this option is that it turns a bug into a feature. Gmail is really too slow, but now you can occasionally use that to your advantage.
Undo option. That would be a good idea.
~Brian
Pure awesome.
Senate Tackles AIG Bonus Bill After House Approves Its Version
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/19/house-vote-taxing-aig-bonus-bonanza/
WASHINGTON -- The Senate's first attempt to pass a bill designed to recoup some $165 million in bonuses paid to AIG was blocked Thursday by Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid tried to pass a Senate version to recoup the bonuses by unanimous consent but Kyl said not so fast, arguing more time was needed to review the legislation which was introduced earlier Thursday.
"I don't believe that Congress should rush to pass yet another piece of hastily crafted legislation in this very toxic atmosphere, at least without understanding the facts and the potential unintended consequences," he said.
"Frankly, I think that's how we got into the current mess," he added.
A spokesman for Reid said the Senate will try to get to the measure next week, before lawmakers head out of town for a two-week Easter recess.
House lawmakers passed their version Thursday to slap heavy taxes on employee bonuses at AIG and at other companies that have received large bailout packages from the government.
The House voted 328-93, receiving the two-thirds majority required to pass despite vocal opposition by Republicans and some Democrats.
The House measure will levy a 90 percent tax on bonuses paid to employees with family incomes above $250,000 at companies that have received at least $5 billion in government bailout money.
"We figured that the local and state governments would take care of the other 10 percent," said Rep. Charles Rangel of New York, chairman of the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee.
The bill applies to mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, among others, while excluding community banks and other smaller companies that have received less bailout money, Rangel said.
House Democratic leaders unveiled the bill as the head of embattled American International Group Inc., which has received $182 billion in bailout money, testified about $165 million in bonuses paid out in the past week to about 400 employees in its Financial Products unit.
Votes on either side of the argument Thursday were fraught with political peril.
House leaders brought the bill under a special provision that requires a two-thirds vote for passage. With 421 lawmakers voting, 281 yeas were required to approve the measure.
Democrats had two reasons to rush the vote: to force the hand of skeptical Republicans and make them vote for the plan. And to set up a public relations nightmare for the GOP and potentially blame them for killing the measure if the House defeated it.
In the end, that may have forced Republicans to vote for the measure.
The Republican leadership team was split: House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, voted no. But his whip, Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va., and former whip Roy Blunt, R-Mo., voted yes. Democratic aides could hardly contain their glee.
"It just shows that the message that Boehner and Cantor tried to sell to their conference didn't work," one Democratic aide said.
This legislation is known as a "suspension" because it "suspends the rules" that require a simple majority to approve a bill. Typically the House can only debate suspensions on Mondays and Tuesdays.
But Democrats went out of their way to receive a special dispensation from the Rules Committee to bring up the bill Thursday in an effort to challenge Republicans to vote for the measure.
Before the vote, Democratic aides were non-committal about chances to coax Republicans to join them and get the two-thirds supermajority to approve the bill. But they were particularly happy after 85 Republicans joined 243 Democrats to approve the plan.
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md, predicted Wednesday the bill would pass. But Boehner, described the legislation as "crap."
"This is nothing more than an attempt for everyone to cover their butt up here," Boehner said.
Nadeam Elshami, a spokesman for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., indicated that Democrats "would be dumbfounded if (Republicans) didn't vote for it."
But some Democrats, including freshmen Reps. Jim Himes, D-Conn., and Michael McMahon, D-N.Y., had planned to vote against the bill because they believed lawmakers were "rushing through" the process.
Himes and McMahon represent many Wall Street constituents in Greenwich, Conn., and Staten Island. But in the end, Himes relented and voted for the bill.
McMahon was one of only six Democrats who voted against the bill. The others were Reps. Walt Minnick, D-Idaho, Harry Mitchell, D-Ariz., Vic Snyder, D-Ark., Melissa Bean, D-Ill., and Larry Kissell, D-N.C.
Edward Liddy, who was brought in last year by the government to run AIG, told a House subcommittee Wednesday that on Tuesday, he had "asked those who have received retention payments in excess of $100,000 or more to return at least half of those payments." Some have "already stepped forward and returned 100 percent," he added.
Lawmakers rushed to the microphones after word of the bonuses was leaked out by the government over the weekend. Bills were quickly drawn up in both the House and Senate to impose heavy new taxes on them.
The top two members of the Senate Finance Committee on Tuesday announced a bill that would impose a 35 percent excise tax on the companies paying the bonuses and a 35 percent excise tax on the employees receiving them. The taxes would apply to all companies receiving government bailout money, but they are clearly geared toward AIG.
House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank announced Thursday the committee will consider legislation to prohibit any bonus payments by companies who have received capital investments under the TARP program and the Housing and Economic Recovery Act until these investments are repaid in full.
The legislation will be "marked-up" in the Financial Services Committee on March 24 and the full House of Representatives will be able to consider the legislation the following week.
Should they choose to keep the bonuses, tax the shit out of them!
~Brian
Katy Perry's monkey trouble
http://www.list.co.uk/article/16697-katy-perrys-monkey-trouble/
Katy Perry was left red-faced when a chimpanzee "peed all over her" while she was posing for a magazine shoot.
Katy Perry was mortified when a chimpanzee urinated on her.
The 'I Kissed A Girl' singer was posing for a magazine shoot, when the lively animal - which was on the set for the photo shoot - relieved itself on her.
She wrote on her blog: "Jeremy Scott is one of my all time favourites and he shot the pictures while I got to prance around in his creations. I had a chimp on set with me that day. Fun fact, she peed all over me, I had to take a silkwood shower in the middle of shooting."
Katy is not the first celebrity to have an unfortunate encounter with a chimpanzee.
Last year, it was revealed Christina Ricci had been sexually assaulted by an animal on the set of her movie.
The actress, who already had a phobia of the animal, revealed Chim Chim grabbed her left breast while she was filming 'Penelope'.
Christina - who played a woman born with a pig's nose in the movie - said: "I'm afraid of monkeys, but I had decided not to be afraid of Chim Chim because no one else is. I thought, 'Everyone else thinks he's awesome so just be cool.'
"It's the first day of shooting and I have this kitchen scene where I'm sitting down and Chim Chim is sitting right next to me. Of course, it freaks out during the take and grabs my left breast and will not let go, and he's so strong."
Quote from: Flynbyu on March 20, 2009, 03:31:56 PM
Should they choose to keep the bonuses, tax the shit out of them!
~Brian
Totally agree. If my business did that bad, I would be fired, let alone get no bonus. (like this year)
Katy Perry.
Mmmmmm.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on March 20, 2009, 03:42:54 PM
Katy Perry.
Mmmmmm.
~Brian
Indeed..
(http://www.strangecelebrities.com/images/content/147913.jpg)
I bend her over and load her like a shotgun.
~Brian
+1
http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2009/03/20/42-piece_dinner_set_made_from_cocaine/UPI-78981237592004/
42-piece dinner set made from cocaine
BARCELONA, Spain, March 20 (UPI) -- Authorities in Spain said they have seized a 42-piece dinner set made from 42 pounds of cocaine and arrested the intended recipient.
Police said a 35-year-old Spanish man, identified only as JVLL, was arrested and charged with an offense against public health after police seized the package in an international operation coordinated with Venezuela, where the package originated, The Times of London reported Friday.
Investigators said they believe the man was forced to become involved in the cocaine trade by drug traffickers in Venezuela.
Police said the cocaine had been destined for sale in Catalonia, Spain.
Shit!
:lol:
~Brian
and.....
I fail to see an issue here. :lol:
that is awesome.
F@CK Peace!!! It disturbs our Soccer !!!! :confused:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/03/23/south.africa.dalai.lama.visa/index.html
:rofl: What a world we live in !!
Quote from: Colorado700R on March 23, 2009, 12:08:41 PM
F@CK Peace!!! It disturbs our Soccer !!!! :confused:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/03/23/south.africa.dalai.lama.visa/index.html
:rofl: What a world we live in !!
That's jacked up.
Dali loves him some soccer, and he's denied!
~Brian
"No Stairway.... Denied!"
Quote from: Colorado700R on March 23, 2009, 12:08:41 PM
F@CK Peace!!! It disturbs our Soccer !!!! :confused:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/03/23/south.africa.dalai.lama.visa/index.html
:rofl: What a world we live in !!
Just listening to that story on NPR. WTF!
THEY FOUND HIM!!!!!!!!
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&sll=51.463676,-0.21536&sspn=0.009505,0.019312&ie=UTF8&ll=51.46386,-0.215499&spn=0.009505,0.019312&z=16&iwloc=addr&layer=c&cbll=51.463944,-0.215446&panoid=aTUlkjN4ZDh_2sWaOxjDPg&cbp=12,96.223121611225,,0,27.200000000000024
ERMAHGERD.. :rofl:
I laughed out loud!
Quote from: Krandall on March 24, 2009, 08:36:27 AM
THEY FOUND HIM!!!!!!!!
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&sll=51.463676,-0.21536&sspn=0.009505,0.019312&ie=UTF8&ll=51.46386,-0.215499&spn=0.009505,0.019312&z=16&iwloc=addr&layer=c&cbll=51.463944,-0.215446&panoid=aTUlkjN4ZDh_2sWaOxjDPg&cbp=12,96.223121611225,,0,27.200000000000024
ERMAHGERD.. :rofl:
I laughed out loud!
:rofl:
Finally!
Now if we could just find Carmen San Diego.
:lol:
~Brian
No joke in April Fool's Day computer worm
CNN) -- A computer-science detective story is playing out on the Internet as security experts try to hunt down a worm called Conficker C and prevent it from damaging millions of computers on April Fool's Day.
The anti-worm researchers have banded together in a group they call the Conficker Cabal. Members are searching for the malicious software program's author and for ways to do damage control if he or she can't be stopped.
They're motivated in part by a $250,000 bounty from Microsoft and also by what seems to be a sort of Dick Tracy ethic.
"We love catching bad guys," said Alvin Estevez, CEO of Enigma Software Group, which is one of many companies trying to crack Conficker. "We're like former hackers who like to catch other hackers. To us, we get almost a feather in our cap to be able to knock out that worm. We slap each other five when we're killing those infections."
The malicious program already is thought to have infected between 5 million and 10 million computers.
Those infections haven't spawned many symptoms, but on April 1 a master computer is scheduled to gain control of these zombie machines, said Don DeBolt, director of threat research for CA, a New York-based IT and software company.
What happens on April Fool's Day is anyone's guess.
The program could delete all of the files on a person's computer, use zombie PCs -- those controlled by a master -- to overwhelm and shut down Web sites or monitor a person's keyboard strokes to collect private information like passwords or bank account information, experts said.
More likely, though, said DeBolt, the virus may try to get computer users to buy fake software or spend money on other phony products.
Experts said computer hackers largely have moved away from showboating and causing random trouble. They now usually try to make money off their viral programs.
DeBolt said Conficker C imbeds itself deep in the computer where it is difficult to track. The program, for instance, stops Windows from conducting automatic updates that could prevent the malware from causing damage.
The program's code is also written to evolve over time and its author appears to be making updates to thwart some of the Conficker Cabal's attempts to neuter the worm.
"It is very much a cat and mouse game," DeBolt said.
It's unclear who wrote the program, but members of the Cabal are looking for clues.
First, they know that some recent malware programs have come from Eastern European countries outside the jurisdiction of the European Union, said Patrick Morganelli, senior vice president of technology for Enigma Software.
Worm program authors often hide in those countries to stay out of sight from law enforcement, he said.
In a way, the Conficker Cabal is also looking for the program author's fingerprints. DeBolt said security researchers are looking through old malware programs to see if their programming styles are similar to that of Conficker C.
The prospects for catching the program's author are not good, Morganelli said.
"Unless they open their mouth, they'll never be found," he said.
So, the most effective counter-assault simply may be damage control.
One quick way to see if your computer has been infected is to see if you have gotten automatic updates from Windows in March. If so, your computer likely is fine, DeBolt said.
Microsoft released a statement saying the company "is actively working with the industry to mitigate the spread of the worm."
Users who haven't gotten the latest Windows updates should go to http://safety.live.com if they fear they're infected, the company's statement says.
DeBolt said people who use other antivirus software should check to make sure they've received the latest updates, which also could have been disabled by Conficker C.
The first version of Conficker -- strain A -- was released in late 2008.
That version used 250 Web addresses -- generated daily by the system -- as the means of communication between the master computer and its zombies.
The end goal of the first line was to sell computer users fake antivirus software, said Morganelli.
Computer security experts largely patched that problem by working with the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers to disable or buy the problematic URLs, he said.
That process-of-elimination approach isn't likely to be effective with Conficker strain C, Morganelli said. The new version will generate 50,000 URLs per day instead of just 250 when it becomes active, DeBolt said.
The first iteration of Conficker is thought to have grown out of a free function for security programs created by Dr. Ronald Rivest, a computer science professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
"Any technology can be used for good or evil, and this is just an example of that," Rivest said.
Many viruses have taken pieces of benevolent programs and used them for ill. But overall the "open source" environment online promotes computer security far more than it enables hackers, DeBolt said.
"I don't blame the open-source community at all" for virus attacks, he said.
CA said it recently found a piece of code in Conficker C that says the worm will become active on April 1. Previous versions of the malicious software launched on specific dates noted in the program code, so the April Fool's Day launch date is not likely to be a trick, DeBolt said.
"The best minds in the industry are working on this to protect customers," he said. "We're trying to reduce the impact of the April 1 date as best we can. But we know ... this malware will continue to evolve."
~Brian
Crazy. Worm coders are a special breed of nerd. Way awesome to hear there's 5-10million infected pc's already!
Quote from: Krandall on March 24, 2009, 09:45:47 AM
Crazy. Worm coders are a special breed of nerd. Way awesome to hear there's 5-10million infected pc's already!
Why the hell do they do it?
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on March 24, 2009, 09:48:43 AM
Quote from: Krandall on March 24, 2009, 09:45:47 AM
Crazy. Worm coders are a special breed of nerd. Way awesome to hear there's 5-10million infected pc's already!
Why the hell do they do it?
~Brian
Hacking into someone's computer
USED to be how nerds would prove the "Who's Who" of the computer world..
Virus and Worm coders are the new "Kings" If you want your name known, virus's are the way to do it.
I would seriously like to beat one down. Just to let them know "who's who."
:lol:
~Brian
:lol:
It's job security for Microsoft's engineers ;)
Quote from: Krandall on March 24, 2009, 09:57:14 AM
:lol:
It's job security for Microsoft's engineers ;)
True dat.
Why don't they f*ck with Apple for a change?
:lol:
~Brian
Not as large of a market.. People who own apples think they are "un-touchable"
There are virus's out there for them. But you dont hear about them because they aren't infecting 5+ million users.
Microsoft has the market here. I believe the stat is somewhere around 70% of homes run windows devices.
I know that # is decreasing due to apple finally coming out and pushing marketing.
F*cking little douchebags.
~Brian
Japanese astronaut tests stink-free underwear :lol:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090323/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_space_underwear;_ylt=AoaDjjRHSfTzdvKQvt88E0XtiBIF
HOUSTON (Reuters) – Teen-age boys, are you tired of embarrassing questions about when you last changed underwear? Japan's space scientists may have just the answer -- a line of odour-free underwear and casual clothing.
Koichi Wakata, the first Japanese astronaut to live on the International Space Station, is testing the clothes, called J-ware and created by textile experts at Japan Women's University in Tokyo.
"He can wear his trunks (underwear) more than a week," said Koji Yanagawa, an official with the Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency.
Wakata's clothes, developed by researcher Yoshiko Taya, are designed to kill bacteria, absorb water, insulate the body and dry quickly. They also are flame-resistant and anti-static, not to mention comfortable and stylish.
Japanese astronaut Takao Doi gave the clothes a trial run during a shuttle mission last year. Even after a vigorous workout, Doi's clothes stayed dry.
"The other astronauts become very sweaty, but he doesn't have any sweat. He didn't need to hang his clothes to dry," Yanagawa said.
J-ware should reduce the amount of clothing that needs to be sent to the space station, which has no laundry facilities. Toting cargo into orbit is expensive, so having clothes that stay fresh for weeks at a time should result in significant savings.
The Japanese space agency plans to make the clothes available to NASA and its other space station partners once development is complete. A commercial line also is in the offing.
Taya also is working with clothing manufacturers Toray Industries and Goldwin. on clothes that have a microscopically thin chemical layer in the materials.
Wakata, who arrived at the station last week for a three-month stay, said on Sunday that the clothes appear to be working.
"Nobody has complained, so I think it's so far, so good," Wakata said.
Leave it to the Japs to make underwear you can wear for a week.
:lol:
~Brian
Beaner will be happy. :lol:
I bet he will.
:lol:
~Brian
As for the Exxon Valdez spill, an estimated 21,000 gallons of crude linger, researchers say. Jars of oil-stained sand and rocks still being dug up in the spill area can be examined at the Prince William Sound Science Center in Cordova.
~Brian
Parents Andy and Clare were delighted when builders finished a new flat roof on their £1million house.
But Rory, 18, had just watched a documentary about Google Earth — which lets internet users view satellite pictures — and decided to make the property stand out. He grabbed a tin of white paint and climbed up to the roof, where he spent half an hour reproducing the best-known feature of the Cerne Abbas Giant in Dorset.
For the next 12 months only Rory knew about the giant manhood on the roof near Hungerford, Berks.
But his secret was blown when a helicopter pilot spotted it, and hovered so his passenger could take photos.
Company director Andy, 54, thought it was a wind-up when The Sun contacted him about the painting.
He said: "It's an April Fool's joke, right? There's no way there's a 60ft phallus on top of my house."
Andy then spoke to all four of his kids demanding answers.
When he phoned Rory — in Brazil as part of his gap year travels — the lad burst out laughing, saying: "Oh, you've found it then!"
The Cerne Abbas Giant is regarded as a massive fertility symbol, and couples often have sex on his appendage in the hope of conceiving.
Rory's mum Clare, 49, said: "We don't want any more children, so the idea of sleeping under a giant fertility symbol is rather worrying."
Andy added: "We don't want to lie in bed at night and hear couples at it above us.
"When Rory gets home he will be given a scrubbing brush and white spirit and he can go and scrub it off."
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00762/SNN2421A_280_762689a.jpg)
Quote from: Krandall on March 24, 2009, 06:27:42 PM
Parents Andy and Clare were delighted when builders finished a new flat roof on their £1million house.
But Rory, 18, had just watched a documentary about Google Earth — which lets internet users view satellite pictures — and decided to make the property stand out. He grabbed a tin of white paint and climbed up to the roof, where he spent half an hour reproducing the best-known feature of the Cerne Abbas Giant in Dorset.
For the next 12 months only Rory knew about the giant manhood on the roof near Hungerford, Berks.
But his secret was blown when a helicopter pilot spotted it, and hovered so his passenger could take photos.
Company director Andy, 54, thought it was a wind-up when The Sun contacted him about the painting.
He said: "It's an April Fool's joke, right? There's no way there's a 60ft phallus on top of my house."
Andy then spoke to all four of his kids demanding answers.
When he phoned Rory — in Brazil as part of his gap year travels — the lad burst out laughing, saying: "Oh, you've found it then!"
The Cerne Abbas Giant is regarded as a massive fertility symbol, and couples often have sex on his appendage in the hope of conceiving.
Rory's mum Clare, 49, said: "We don't want any more children, so the idea of sleeping under a giant fertility symbol is rather worrying."
Andy added: "We don't want to lie in bed at night and hear couples at it above us.
"When Rory gets home he will be given a scrubbing brush and white spirit and he can go and scrub it off."
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00762/SNN2421A_280_762689a.jpg)
No freaking way!
:lol:
~Brian
:rofl: How awesome is that! :clap:
WASHINGTON (CNN) — An Air Force F-22A fighter jet crashed Wednesday near Edwards Air Force Base in California, Air Force officials said.
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/22/29549140_e8044ba519_o.jpg)
The single-seater crashed about 10:30 a.m. (1:30 p.m. ET) for unknown reasons, the officials said.
The status of the pilot was unknown.
The fighter was on a test mission when it crashed about 35 miles northeast of Edwards AFB, where it was stationed, the Air Force said in a news release.
At $150 million apiece, the F-22A is the most expensive Air Force jet.
~Brian
LONDON, England (CNN) -- "Why do I find it hard to write the next line?" If you recognize the lyric then brace yourself for some good news.
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/25/spandau.ballet.reunion/art.spandau.gi.jpg)
Spandau Ballet, pictured aboard HMS Belfast, on Wednesday.
Twenty years since their acrimonious split, Spandau Ballet -- the pin-up boys who helped shaped the sound of 1980s glam pop -- have announced the first dates of what band members say will be a full world tour.
The Tony Hadley-fronted band, who enjoyed worldwide success with hits such as "True" and "Gold," will launch their comeback in Dublin, Ireland, on October 13 before playing seven dates across the UK.
Wednesday's announcement took place onboard HMS Belfast, a retired Royal Navy moored in the Thames that was the scene of a key early gig by the band in 1980 that launched them on the road to global stardom.
"It is impossible to stress too highly how achingly fashionable Spandau Ballet were in the winter of 1979 and the summer of 1980," GQ magazine editor Dylan Jones writes in a biography of the band.
Formed at a London school in 1979, Spandau Ballet went on to sell 25 million records worldwide, emerging out of the post-punk "New Romantic" music scene.
Along with fellow British band Duran Duran, their sound, style and attitude came to define an era dominated by ostentatious glamour, gold lame suits and big hair.
"Not only did their albums sell by the millions, but their look and style impacted on the fashion world and beyond," said a press release, summing up the band's influence on the decade.
"They created their own style, combining creativity with entrepreneurship and the 'can do' spirit of early 80s youth at a time of crisis and upheaval eerily reminiscent of 2009. Spandau Ballet are both commercially and culturally enormous."
Following the band's split in 1989, several members including Hadley unsuccessfully sued main songwriter Gary Kemp for a larger share of songwriting royalties.
Since then, Hadley has appeared in the London production of the hit musical "Chicago" and also won an 80s revivalist reality TV show "Reborn in the USA." Several other members of the band have carved out moderately successful acting careers.
Sweeet. A world tour.
:lol:
~Brian
Robber fatally shot in Miami Burger King holdup
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/southflorida/story/966133.html
An afternoon shootout at a busy Burger King restaurant in Miami left a potential robber dead and the customer who shot him seriously wounded.
The bloody event unfolded about 4 p.m. Tuesday at the restaurant at Northeast 54th Street and Biscayne Boulevard. It was a time, employees said, when it is usually crowded with schoolchildren and people getting out of work early.
The robber entered wearing a ski mask. He approached a clerk, showed his gun and demanded money, said Miami police spokesman Jeff Giordano.
A customer eyed him and the two started arguing. The customer had a concealed-weapons permit and his gun -- and the two exchanged gunfire.
The robber crumpled to the floor and was pronounced dead at the scene.
The customer, with several gunshot wounds, was in serious but stable condition at Jackson Memorial Hospital's Ryder Trauma Center.
Officers divided witnesses into several groups outside the restaurant to gather information about the incident. Employees waiting to start their shift called friends and family members on their cellphones to pass the time because they were not allowed through the police tape.
''I just hope all my people are OK inside,'' said Cynthia Thomas, who has worked at the Burger King for five years. ``It is scary.''
Around them, drivers on busy Biscayne Boulevard gawked at the scene.
The area is a prime destination for residents in the Upper East Side neighborhood -- featuring Soyka's restaurant, Sushi Siam and Andiamo Pizza.
Even i the nice part of town shit goes down.
~Brian
North Korea readies missile, makes new threat
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090326/ts_nm/us_korea_north_missile
SEOUL (Reuters) – North Korea said on Thursday that if the international community punishes it for next month's planned missile launch it will restart a nuclear plant that makes weapons grade plutonium.
The secretive state this week put a long-range missile in place for a launch the United States warned would violate U.N. sanctions imposed on Pyongyang for past weapons tests.
The planned launch, seen by some countries as a disguised military exercise, is the first big test for U.S. President Barack Obama in dealing with the prickly North, whose efforts to build a nuclear arsenal have long plagued ties with Washington.
North Korea warned that any action by the U.N. Security Council to punish it would be a "hostile act."
" ... All the processes for the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula ... will be brought back to what used to be before their start and necessary strong measures will be taken," the North's foreign ministry spokesman said in comments carried by the official KCNA news agency.
North Korea has frozen its aging nuclear reactor and started to take apart its Yongbyon atomic plant under a deal signed by regional powers in 2005 that called for economic aid and better diplomatic standing for the isolated North in return. Despite the agreement, the North carried out a nuclear test in 2006.
The South Korean daily Chosun Ilbo quoted a diplomatic source as saying the North could fire its Taepodong-2 missile, which has the range to hit U.S. territory, by the weekend.
This is earlier than the April 4-8 timeframe Pyongyang announced for what it says is the launch of a satellite.
"Technically a launch is possible within three to four days," the Chosun Ilbo quoted a diplomatic source in Seoul as saying.
South Korea said the launch would be a serious challenge to security in north Asia, which accounts for one sixth of the global economy. Japan urged North Korea to refrain from action that would destabilize the region.
"We strongly urge the North to immediately stop the launch of a long-range missile, which would be a clear violation of the U.N. Security Council resolution 1718," South Korean Defense Ministry spokesman Won Tae-jae told reporters.
ROCKET ON THE PAD
On Wednesday, a U.S. counter-proliferation official told Reuters that North Korea appeared to have positioned the rocket on its launch pad.
Another U.S. official, also speaking on condition of anonymity, said North Korea had placed together two stages of what is expected to be a three-stage rocket.
Once it has been positioned, North Korea will need several days to fuel the rocket which could, in theory, carry a warhead as far as Alaska. The only previous test of the rocket in 2006 ended in failure when it blew apart seconds after lift-off.
South Korea plans to dispatch an advanced destroyer capable of tracking and shooting down missiles to waters off the east coast, Yonhap news agency quoted government sources as saying.
The planned launch and growing tension on the Korean peninsula are beginning to worry financial markets in the South, although so far there has been only minor impact.
"If they really fire something, it would definitely shake the financial markets, but only briefly, as has been the case in many previous cases of provocation and clashes," said Jung Sung-min, a fixed-income analyst at Eugene Futures.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, during a visit to Mexico, said the launch would deal a blow to six-party talks to end Pyongyang's nuclear weapons program.
Those talks sputtered to a halt in December over disagreement on how to check the North was disabling its nuclear facilities.
"This provocative action ... will not go unnoticed and there will be consequences," she told reporters, repeating earlier warnings it could put the issue before the U.N. Security Council for additional sanctions.
Pyongyang repeated its threat on Thursday to quit the six-party talks, which also involve South Korea, Russia, Japan, the United States and China, if it was punished.
CHINA TO BLOCK MORE SANCTIONS?
North Korea faces a range of U.N. sanctions and many analysts doubt new ones would get past China -- the nearest Pyongyang has to a powerful ally -- in the Security Council.
China, sticking to its low-key approach, said it hoped all "relevant parties will remain restrained and calm."
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov cautioned the international community against making rash decisions.
"Do not try to make evaluations before events have occurred," he said in Moscow, while noting U.N. Security Council resolutions should be adhered to.
A successful launch would be a huge boost at home to leader Kim Jong-il, whose illness last year -- widely thought to have been a stroke -- has raised questions over his grip on power.
North Korea has given international agencies notice of the rocket's planned trajectory that would take it over Japan, dropping booster stages to its east and west.
The U.S. military has said it could with "high probability" intercept any North Korean missile heading for U.S. territory, if ordered to do so. Pyongyang says any attempt to shoot down the rocket would be an act of war.
(Additional reporting by Randall Mikkelsen and Paul Eckert in WASHINGTON, Arshad Mohammed in MEXICO CITY, and Jack Kim, Jon Herskovitz, Yoo Choonsik and Seo Eun-kyung in SEOUL; Editing by Dean Yates)
Empty threats.
True once, or if we pull out of the middle east they will calm down again. It would be nice if South Korea could beef up their own military.
or if ANYONE ELSE could beef uip their military... We're always flexin our muscles.
We have technology to knock their missile out of the sky. If it does reach Alaska, could they please take out Palin?
:lol:
~Brian
We should shoot it down once it clears their borders. :lol:
They've saay they are launching a satellite.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on March 26, 2009, 12:33:28 PM
We have technology to knock their missile out of the sky. If it does reach Alaska, could they please take out Palin?
:lol:
~Brian
as long as it is equipped with ignorance radar. :lol:
+1
No doubt.
~Brian
Man lifts meat with his beard
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/cltv-beard-lift-gallery,0,2685938.photogallery
Eamon Daly turned to his fearsome facial hair to lift things - and your spirit! For every $100 raised for his charity of choice - the Off The Street Club - the amateur stuntman adds another pound to his weekly beard-breaking lift. Jax caught up with Eamon at Wild Dogz in Evanston, where Week 6 meant suspending 42 lbs of gyros meat from his face. Help him get to $5000 by donating at ThingsMyBeardCanLift.com.
What would they do if we space-jacked their satellite and brought it home in the Space Shuttle? That would be awesome.
Quote from: Krandall on March 26, 2009, 04:39:54 PM
Man lifts meat with his beard
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/cltv-beard-lift-gallery,0,2685938.photogallery
Eamon Daly turned to his fearsome facial hair to lift things - and your spirit! For every $100 raised for his charity of choice - the Off The Street Club - the amateur stuntman adds another pound to his weekly beard-breaking lift. Jax caught up with Eamon at Wild Dogz in Evanston, where Week 6 meant suspending 42 lbs of gyros meat from his face. Help him get to $5000 by donating at ThingsMyBeardCanLift.com.
Pay enough money and you watch his beard get ripped from his face. I need to win the lotto.
CNN: Rap star T.I. sentenced to one year and one day in prison and ordered to pay a $100,300 fine on weapons charges.
More to follow.
~Brian
Missing woman found dead in her home. She's only been missing for seven years.
Link: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/03/27/ca.dead.home.years.kgo
~Brian
Seems it's either feast or famine.. while others are dealing w/ droughts. We're dealing w/ TO MUCH water. :help:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090327/ap_on_re_us/midwest_flooding
Red River tops historic marker, undermines levy
FARGO, N.D. – The Red River rose to a daunting 112-year high early Friday and breached one of the dikes fortifying the city, but the mayor pledged to "go down swinging" as he called for more evacuations and additional National Guard troops to prevent a devastating flood.
The river swelled to 40.32 feet — more than 22 feet above flood stage and inches more than the previous high water mark of 40.1 feet set in 1897. It was expected to crest as high as 43 feet on Saturday. Fargo's main dike protects the city at the 43-foot level.
Fargo Mayor Dennis Walaker says the city has no plans to build the dike any higher. He says officials believe the Red River will crest at between 41.5 and 42 feet.
"We're not going to proceed to take it to 44. Is that a gamble? We don't think so," Walaker said.
Walaker says they are adding 800 members of the guard from North Dakota and South Dakota to patrol dikes for breaches, on top of the 900 troops already in place.
Officials asked people to stay off of roads to keep streets clear for sandbag trucks and avoid traffic jams that have been plaguing the area.
Authorities in Fargo and across the river in Moorhead, Minn., expanded evacuations Friday across several blocks of their cities. The total number of people ordered from homes wasn't clear.
Sen. Byron Dorgan also said that Northwest Airlines was sending two jetliners to move patients from hospitals to safer areas.
Just after 2 a.m. Friday, residents in one neighborhood were roused from sleep and ordered to evacuate after authorities found a leak in a dike. The leak left the integrity of the dike in question, police Capt. Tod Dahle said.
"It's not like there's a wall of water going through," he said. "It's just a significant leak."
Fargo spokeswoman Karena Lunday said it was the only overnight breech and crews would start patching it Friday morning.
"We want to go down swinging if we go down," Walaker said.
The American Red Cross planned to send another 150 people to the North Dakota flood zone to operate emergency shelters. They will join the 85 such volunteers already working in Grand Forks, Bismarck, Fargo and Moorhead, Minn.
Spokeswoman Courtney Johnson said Friday it's not necessarily a sign that the Red Cross is expecting a disaster. "No one living has ever seen something like this," she said. "We preach preparedness. We can't not be prepared."
Residents in this city of 92,000 had been scrambling in subfreezing temperatures to pile sandbags along the river and spent much of Thursday preparing for a crest of 41 feet, only to have forecasters late in the day add up to 2 feet to their estimate.
The National Weather Service said in its follow-up statement that the Red was expected to crest between 41 and 42 feet by Saturday, but could reach 43 feet. It said water levels could remain high for three days to a week.
The first estimate sparked urgency among thousands of volunteers in Fargo. The second shook their spirits.
"I've lived here 40 years and over a 30-minute span I've reached a point where I'm preparing to evacuate and expect never to sleep in my house again," said Tim Corwin, 55, whose south Fargo home was sheltered by sandbags to 43 feet.
But the sandbag-making operation at the Fargodome churned as furiously as ever, sending fresh bags out to an estimated 6,000 volunteers who endured temperatures below 20 degrees in the race to sandbag.
"I was skeptical as far as volunteers coming out today, but they're like mailmen," said Leon Schlafmann, Fargo's emergency management director. "They come out rain, sleet or shine."
Several unusual factors sent the Red River surging to historic heights this year. The winter was unusually cold and snowy, which left a large snowpack sitting on top of frozen ground that couldn't absorb it. Then a warm snap and heavy rain quickly melted the snow and sent it into toward the river.
And it all happened to a river that flows north. When most rivers in the United States melt, they send the extra water south toward warmer, open water. When the Red breaks up, it sends hunks of ice north into colder water that is often still frozen.
Officials ordered the evacuation of another Fargo neighborhood and a nursing home late Thursday after authorities found cracks in an earthen levee. Residents were not in immediate danger, and water wasn't flowing over the levee, Walaker said.
Still, officers went door to door to the roughly 40 homes in the River Vili neighborhood and were evacuating Riverview Estates nursing home. Authorities also asked the 1,000 residents who live between the main dikes and the backup dikes in various parts of the city to leave within 24 hours. That evacuation could become mandatory.
Authorities across the river in Moorhead, also stepped up evacuations Thursday. The city of about 35,000 recommended that residents leave the southwest corner of the city and a low-lying township to the north where some homes had already flooded.
Fargo's largest hospital and at least four nursing homes also moved residents.
"A few of them said they didn't want to go. I said I'm going where the crowd goes," said 98-year-old Margaret "Dolly" Beaucage, who clasped rosary beads as she waited to leave Elim Care Center.
"I'm a swimmer," she said, smiling, "but not that good a swimmer."
In rural areas south of Fargo, crews were rescuing stranded residents. Pat Connor of the Cass County sheriff's department said 70 people had been rescued by Thursday evening, and he expected that number to grow.
The federal government announced a disaster declaration Thursday for seven Minnesota counties. The entire state of North Dakota had received a disaster designation earlier in the week.
On the Canadian side of the northern-flowing Red River, ice-clogged culverts, ice jams and the rising river threatened Manitoba residents. Several homes were evacuated north of Winnipeg and several dozen houses were flooded.
"We're in for probably the worst two weeks that this community has ever seen in its entire existence," St. Clements Mayor Steve Strang said. The Red River crest threatening North Dakota isn't expected to arrive in Manitoba for another week.
ShamWow dude battered hooker in South Beach hotel room brawl!
MARCH 27--Meet Vince Shlomi.
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art4/0327092sham1awm.jpg)
He's probably better known to you as the ShamWow Guy, the ubiquitous television pitchman who has been phenomenally successful peddling absorbent towels and food choppers. Shlomi, 44, was arrested last month on a felony battery charge following a violent confrontation with a prostitute in his South Beach hotel room. According to an arrest affidavit, Shlomi met Sasha Harris....
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art4/0327092sham2.jpg)
26, at a Miami Beach nightclub on February 7 and subsequently retired with her to his $750 room at the lavish Setai hotel. Shlomi told cops he paid Harris about $1000 in cash after she "propositioned him for straight sex." Shlomi said that when he kissed Harris, she suddenly "bit his tongue and would not let go." Shlomi then punched Harris several times until she released his tongue. The affidavit, a copy of which you'll find here, notes that during the 4 AM fight Harris sustained facial fractures and lacerations all over her face (she is pictured here in mug shots snapped following busts in 2008 and 2005). After freeing his tongue, a bleeding Shlomi ran to the Setai lobby, where security summoned cops. Harris refused to cooperate with officers, who recovered $930 from her purse. "Both parties had a strong odor of an alcoholic beverage emitting from their persons," police reported. In a brief telephone interview, Harris declined to answer TSG questions about her run-in with Shlomi, though she did say she is considering a lawsuit against the pitchman. Asked if she worked as a hooker, Harris declined comment. As seen in the below mug shot, Shlomi was also injured during the fracas and, court records show, was treated at Mount Sinai Medical Center. While Shlomi and Harris were both arrested for felony aggravated battery, prosecutors this month declined to file formal charges against the combatants. Police records list Shlomi's occupation as "Marketing," but make no mention of his affiliation with the ShamWow or the Slap Chop, both of which sell for $19.95 (plus shipping and handling).
See the police report here: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0327092sham3.html
~Brian
Looks like she slap-chopped his face.
I don't think I'd punch somebody holding my tongue with her teeth. That would be a good way to lose it.
SHAM-WOW
:rofl:
U.S. deploys anti-missile ships before N.Korea launch
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090330/wl_nm/us_korea_north
SEOUL (Reuters) – The United States deployed two missile-interceptor ships from South Korea on Monday, a military spokesman said, days ahead of a North Korean rocket launch widely seen as a long-range missile test that violates U.N. sanctions.
The launch presents the first significant challenge by the prickly state to U.S. President Barack Obama, who will discuss Pyongyang's intentions with global leaders including Chinese President Hu Jintao this week at the G20 summit in London.
The United States, however, has no intention to shoot down the rocket in a test seen by Washington as part of Pyongyang's goal to eventually develop an intercontinental ballistic missile, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said on Sunday.
"I would say we're not prepared to do anything about it," Gates said on "Fox News Sunday" when asked if the Pentagon planned to shoot down the missile.
"If we had an aberrant missile, one that looked like it was headed for Hawaii, we might consider it," he said, adding the Pentagon does not believe North Korea can put a warhead on the missile or reach the U.S. West Coast.
U.S. Forces Korea dispatched the guided missile destroyers from the South Korean port of Busan, a spokesman said without offering further details.
Local media quoted informed sources as saying the vessels with sophisticated radar will monitor the launch, which Pyongyang has said is planned for April 4-8. South Korea also plans to dispatch one of its missile-intercepting destroyers closer to the launch date, officials have said.
Japan deployed two missile-intercepting vessels to waters off its west coast at the weekend and another with sophisticated radar off its Pacific coast.
The North Korean rocket is supposed to drop booster stages to the east and west of Japan. Government officials said Tokyo is poised to shoot down debris that poses a threat to its public.
Rear Admiral James Kelly, Commander of U.S. Forces Japan, told reporters on Monday Japan had nothing to fear from the launch. "Number one, I wouldn't lose sleep at night. Number two, Japan is very safe," he said.
Asked why he was so confident, Kelly said: "What it's based on is complete confidence that certainly from the United States naval perspective, we're postured to defend Japan and that's what we are here for.
"We believe we are postured in the right way to react in complementation with the Self-Defense Forces of Japan."
:nun:
If we shoot it down, all hell will break loose. We can pretty much kiss the idea of North Korea quitting their nuclear (NEW-KU-LAR) process goodbye. If we could only hack the launch operation and make it explode after takeoff. That would be super cool.....CIA GEEK SQUAD!
~Brian
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=6004746
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Police say a customer fired one or two shots into a Salt Lake City McDonald's after the driver of the car he was in was told the restaurant was not serving lunch.
Police say the female driver of a white Dodge Intrepid pulled up to the drive-thru at 210 W. 500 South and ordered from the lunch and dinner menu around 2 a.m. Sunday but was told only breakfast was available.
Police say two men then got out of the car and one pulled a sawed-off shotgun from the trunk, shooting into the drive-thru window once or twice, The Salt Lake Tribune reported Monday. No one was injured.
The car then left the scene. According to the Tribune, the shooter was described as Polynesian, 6 feet 1 inch tall, with long hair in a ponytail, a beanie cap and a white T-shirt.
That's jacked up.
~Brian
GIMME MA QUARTA' POUNDA' B*TCH! :lol:
Quote from: Flynbyu on March 30, 2009, 08:40:32 AM
If we shoot it down, all hell will break loose. We can pretty much kiss the idea of North Korea quitting their nuclear (NEW-KU-LAR) process goodbye. If we could only hack the launch operation and make it explode after takeoff. That would be super cool.....CIA GEEK SQUAD!
~Brian
That douche is like a spoiled little kid..
If he doesn't get the consessions he wants he has a tantrum and does a test or launches some shit to get more attention.
In my experience the best way to deal with a tantrum is to beat it out of the child :lol:
Quote from: Colorado700R on March 30, 2009, 11:29:45 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on March 30, 2009, 08:40:32 AM
If we shoot it down, all hell will break loose. We can pretty much kiss the idea of North Korea quitting their nuclear (NEW-KU-LAR) process goodbye. If we could only hack the launch operation and make it explode after takeoff. That would be super cool.....CIA GEEK SQUAD!
~Brian
That douche is like a spoiled little kid..
If he doesn't get the consessions he wants he has a tantrum and does a test or launches some shit to get more attention.
In my experience the best way to deal with a tantrum is to beat it out of the child :lol:
1,000,000 man army.
That scares me.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on March 30, 2009, 11:32:48 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on March 30, 2009, 11:29:45 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on March 30, 2009, 08:40:32 AM
If we shoot it down, all hell will break loose. We can pretty much kiss the idea of North Korea quitting their nuclear (NEW-KU-LAR) process goodbye. If we could only hack the launch operation and make it explode after takeoff. That would be super cool.....CIA GEEK SQUAD!
~Brian
That douche is like a spoiled little kid..
If he doesn't get the consessions he wants he has a tantrum and does a test or launches some shit to get more attention.
In my experience the best way to deal with a tantrum is to beat it out of the child :lol:
1,000,000 man army.
That scares me.
~Brian
Pfft, an Army fights on it's stomach....and those poor bastards are starving.
With China at the backdoor, I'd be very cautious.
~Brian
US soldier gets 35 years in deaths of 4 Iraqis
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090330/ap_on_re_eu/eu_germany_us_iraq_deaths
VILSECK, Germany – A U.S. soldier convicted of murder in the execution-style slayings of four blindfolded Iraqis apologized for shooting one of them in the back of the head, but said he acted out of concern for his fellow troops.
"Nothing is harder than losing a soldier," Sgt. 1st Class Joseph Mayo said in closing arguments after he was found guilty of murder. "Or calling a mother or a wife and telling them that you tried, but wondering if you did enough. I apologize to the military for what I've done. I apologize to the soldiers; I never wanted them to have to go through this."
Mayo told the court — just lawyers and a judge, with no jury — that he shot one of the Iraqis with a 9mm pistol. A judge-only decision is possible in military courts.
Mayo of Fort Bragg, North Carolina, pleaded guilty to premeditated murder and conspiracy to commit premeditated murder in the proceeding at the U.S. Army's Rose Barracks in southeast Germany.
He pleaded not guilty to obstruction of justice in the incident, which happened while he was deployed in Baghdad. Military prosecutors later dropped that charge.
The 27-year-old was sentenced to 35 years in prison with the possibility of parole and will be incarcerated at the military prison in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. He will be dishonorably discharged, have his rank reduced to private and forfeit his pay, though not immediately.
His lawyer, Michael Waddington, said Mayo would testify against another soldier involved in the incident and could be eligible for parole in about 10 years. Mayo has been in the Army for nearly a decade.
Col. Jeffrey Nance, the judge overseeing the proceedings, told Mayo that he "entered into an agreement to commit premeditated murder" that saw the four Iraqi men shot in the head by the side of a canal in Baghdad between March and April 2007.
According to testimony Monday and at previous courts-martial, at least four Iraqis were taken into custody in spring 2007 after an exchange of small arms fire with Mayo's unit.
The Iraqis were taken to the unit's base for questioning and processing, although there was not enough evidence to hold them for attacking the unit. Later that night patrol members took the Iraqis to a remote area and shot them so that they would not be able to attack U.S. forces again, Mayo testified.
He said the unit's first Sergeant, John Hatley, 40, instigated the plan and that Mayo and another senior member of the unit, Sgt. Michael Leahy, volunteered to help kill the detainees.
Earlier this year, Leahy, 28, of Lockport, Ill., was convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole after he admitted to the killing of one of the detainees and shooting another. He was acquitted of murder over a separate incident in Baghdad in January 2007.
Nance asked Mayo if it was his intent to kill the prisoners, and if he was frustrated by the thought that, if detained in the usual way, the prisoners would soon be back on the street to shoot at U.S. soldiers.
"Yes sir," Mayo replied.
"If we took (the) individuals to detention they'd be released in a matter of days," he told the court. "(Hatley) said we should take care of them. I agreed."
"I believe I was acting in self-defense," Mayo said. "I just wanted to take care of my soldiers."
But he admitted that neither he nor his men were in any immediate danger, as the detainees were blindfolded with their hands bound.
Hatley, who is also accused of pulling the trigger, will be court-martialed on charges of premeditated murder, conspiracy to commit premeditated murder and obstruction of justice on April 13. He also faces murder charges from the separate incident in Baghdad in January 2007. The Army has not released a hometown for Hatley.
Waddington said that under a deal reached with prosecutors, Mayo will testify at Hatley's court-martial.
Two soldiers — Spc. Steven Ribordy, 26, of Salina, Kansas, and Spc. Belmor Ramos, 24, of Clearfield, Utah — pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit premeditated murder and were sentenced to prison for their role in the incident last year.
Staff Sgt. Jess Cunningham, 29, of Bakersfield, California, and Sgt. Charles Quigley, 28, of Providence, Rhode Island, had charges of conspiracy to commit premeditated murder dropped this year.
All were with the 1st Battalion, 18th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade, 1st Infantry Division. The unit is now part of the Germany-based 172nd Infantry Brigade.
^^^Terrible^^^
I see the point, but how is it any different than what his normal job would be if they were shooting at him. Crazy. Not 100% fair either way.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on March 30, 2009, 11:35:59 AM
With China at the backdoor, I'd be very cautious.
~Brian
China is always a threat, but we're still there #1 customer (by a long shot!), so they'd loose a massive economic partner. Too much risk for to little reward for China. Besides, China still see's NK as a disgruntled sattelite provence, same as Tiawan, and there ultimate goal is probably not intune with NKs (re-unification)
I know China is in thick with us economically, but I consider NK like China's little step brother.
Kim Jong is a freaking lunatic, but I don't think he's stupid enough to f*ck with us.
~Brian
Horrible story Krandall. Makes me sad.
Man decapitates 5-year-old sister in front of officer
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/31/sibling.stabbings/index.html
This seriously makes me sick to the stomach reading... :(
By the time the police officer kicked the door in, it was too late. Kerby Revelus was holding his 5-year-old sister, Bianca, and while the officer watched, he dragged a kitchen knife across her throat with such fury that he decapitated her.
Police outside the Milton, Massachusetts, home where a 23-year-old killed two of his sisters Saturday.
"It's hard to imagine kind of horror," said Milton, Massachusetts, Police Chief Richard G. Wells Jr.
Mere seconds passed before other officers arrived and rushed into the home in the tony Boston suburb of 25,000.
Police had received a 911 call from another Revelus sibling, 17-year-old Samantha. Suffering from several deep cuts in her upper body, she was losing strength.
"It was clear that she knew she was mortally wounded," Wells said. Watch police chief discuss decapitation »
Samantha managed to explain that her 23-year-old brother had attacked his sisters with a knife, police said. When she was no long able to keep talking, the injured teen handed her 9-year-old sister, Seraphina Revelus, the phone.
All the while, the kids' grandmother was doing laundry in the basement, apparently unaware of the savagery upstairs, police said. Mother Regina Revelus was at work, and father Vronze Revelus was not at home.
As officers surrounded the home and rushed into every room, Kerby ran into a bedroom where Samantha was on the ground, dead. Seraphina was on the floor near her sister's body, according to Wells.
Kerby Revelus then began attacking Seraphina with the knife, Wells said, prompting police open fire and kill him.
On Tuesday, the two slain siblings and their attacker were buried together.
It was not the first time police have visited the home answering a domestic violence call, Wells said.
In September 2004, Kerby was arrested for punching one of his sisters in the face as they fought about money, the chief said. The Boston Herald identified the sibling as Jessica Revelus, who was not in the home during Saturday's attack.
This makes me sick, and VERY angry.
WHY do this to someone?
WHY?
~Brian
Mad Dog Busted. :lol:
Ohio man charged with drunken driving on bar stool
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090331/ap_on_fe_st/odd_bar_stool_dui;_ylt=ApTaMUvOHGcc20tyEJFX6GntiBIF
NEWARK, Ohio – Authorities in Ohio say a man has been charged with drunken driving after crashing his motorized bar stool. Police in Newark, 30 miles east of Columbus, say when they responded to a report of a crash with injuries on March 4, they found a man who had wrecked a bar stool powered by a deconstructed lawn mower.
MadDog was hospitalized for minor injuries. Police say he was charged with operating a vehicle while intoxicated after he told an officer at the hospital that he had consumed 15 beers. Wygle told police his motorized bar stool can go up to 38 mph.
Wygle has pleaded not guilty and has requested a jury trial.
Quote from: Krandall on March 31, 2009, 03:11:50 PM
Mad Dog Busted. :lol:
Ohio man charged with drunken driving on bar stool
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090331/ap_on_fe_st/odd_bar_stool_dui;_ylt=ApTaMUvOHGcc20tyEJFX6GntiBIF
NEWARK, Ohio – Authorities in Ohio say a man has been charged with drunken driving after crashing his motorized bar stool. Police in Newark, 30 miles east of Columbus, say when they responded to a report of a crash with injuries on March 4, they found a man who had wrecked a bar stool powered by a deconstructed lawn mower.
MadDog was hospitalized for minor injuries. Police say he was charged with operating a vehicle while intoxicated after he told an officer at the hospital that he had consumed 15 beers. Wygle told police his motorized bar stool can go up to 38 mph.
Wygle has pleaded not guilty and has requested a jury trial.
It didn't mention a snow cow.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on March 31, 2009, 03:17:03 PM
Quote from: Krandall on March 31, 2009, 03:11:50 PM
Mad Dog Busted. :lol:
Ohio man charged with drunken driving on bar stool
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090331/ap_on_fe_st/odd_bar_stool_dui;_ylt=ApTaMUvOHGcc20tyEJFX6GntiBIF
NEWARK, Ohio – Authorities in Ohio say a man has been charged with drunken driving after crashing his motorized bar stool. Police in Newark, 30 miles east of Columbus, say when they responded to a report of a crash with injuries on March 4, they found a man who had wrecked a bar stool powered by a deconstructed lawn mower.
MadDog was hospitalized for minor injuries. Police say he was charged with operating a vehicle while intoxicated after he told an officer at the hospital that he had consumed 15 beers. Wygle told police his motorized bar stool can go up to 38 mph.
Wygle has pleaded not guilty and has requested a jury trial.
It didn't mention a snow cow.
:lol:
~Brian
was the Barstool towed back to camp ???
I bet they used rocks or driftwood to fix it.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on March 31, 2009, 03:20:19 PM
I bet they used rocks or driftwood to fix it.
:lol:
~Brian
"No geeks were harmed or roosted during these events"
:lol:
Poor Mike.
~Brian
CPSC Announces Yamaha to Recall 120,000 Rhinos Prone to Rollover Accidents
MARCH 31, 2009 – The Consumer Product Safety Commission said today that Yamaha Motor Company will be voluntarily suspending sales of its Rhino 450 and Rhino 660 recreational vehicles, and will also be offering free modifications to vehicles already sold to make the Rhinos less susceptible to rollover accidents. In a statement, the CPSC said owners of affected Yamaha Rhino should not operate these recreational vehicles until a dealer makes repairs. The recall affects about 120,000 models sold nationwide since the fall of 2003.
The recall comes after more than 46 driver and passenger deaths in the Yamaha Rhino recreational vehicles, and hundreds of reported injuries. More than two-thirds of the cases involved rollover accidents, many on flat terrain and at low speeds. The CPSC started investigating the Yamaha Rhino's alleged safety issues in 2008. (I removed the contact info for the law firm filing a class action lawsuit against yamaha, I didn't think a supposed news report was an approraite place to solicate legal advice.)
It would appear the google adds at the bottom of every offroad forum to sue yamaha has found enough people to make a someone notice.
I thought this was old news and there had already been a recall, has it just hit the main stream media?
The beginning of the end for GM in my opinion. I don't think GM is going to make it out of this one, who would want to buy a car from a company in bankruptcy.
U.S. plans to ease GM into bankruptcy
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090401/ts_nm/us_autos_report_sb
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Obama administration is seeking to ease General Motors Corp into a "controlled" bankruptcy by persuading some creditors to agree to a plan that would divide the company into two pieces, the New York Times reported on Wednesday.
Citing people briefed on the matter, the Times said the plan is to push GM into a structured bankruptcy "somewhere between a prepackaged bankruptcy and court chaos," using taxpayer financing for leverage.
The administration is drawing in part from its experience with troubled banks, seeking to create a new, healthier GM, but leaving behind its liabilities and less valuable assets, possibly for liquidation, the Times said on its website.
Under the plan, GM would file for prearranged bankruptcy, the report said, and would then use a sale authorized under Section 363 of the U.S. bankruptcy code to sell off desirable assets to a new company financed by the government.
These more valuable assets might include Cadillac and Chevrolet, as well as assets the company needs to run its business, the Times said.
Plans are still under discussion and details are subject to change, the report said.
GM officials warned on Tuesday there was a rising chance it could file for bankruptcy by June.
One plan under discussion would be to form a new company of the automaker's best assets, while laggard brands and money-losing assets would remain under bankruptcy protection, a person familiar with that strategy told Reuters.
President Barack Obama's thinking on the crisis facing GM has not changed since Monday, a senior administration official told Reuters on Tuesday.
"Nothing has changed on this," the official said when asked about a Bloomberg report that the president has determined that a prepackaged bankruptcy is the best way for GM to restructure and become competitive. "This report is not accurate."
The White House wants the 60-day period for GM and a 30-day period for Chrysler to play out, as announced by the president on Monday, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Doing the worm: Tweak in 'Conficker' sparks fears
http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20090331/ap_on_hi_te/tec_conficker_countdown
SAN FRANCISCO - Even if it's not an April Fools' joke, the latest moves by the dreaded Conficker worm are by no means an Internet Armageddon, either. The worm's alarming outbreak entered a new phase Wednesday as clocks around the world ticked into the first day of April, the day it was scheduled to change programming.
But security experts appeared correct in their predictions that the day was likely to come and go without any major disruptions, even though the worm has infected anywhere from 3 million to 12 million PCs running Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating system.
Computer infections now are all about making money by stealing people's personal information. And Conficker's authors stand to make more money from renting out parts of their huge "botnet" to spammers or identity thieves than by destroying parts of the Internet.
"These guys have been pretty smart until now — the worm is unfortunately very well done," said Patrik Runald, chief security advisor for F-Secure Corp. "So far they haven't been stupid. So why should they start on April 1?"
But panic over the worm had reached a frenzy.
Lori Lynn Pavlovich, a mother of four from Racine, Wis., unplugged her PC and vowed to stay offline for a week after seeing a local TV news report about the worm.
"I get scared real easy when it comes to stuff like that," she said. Pavlovich, who says she keeps her antivirus software and security patches up to date, got back online 24 hours later after a relative assured her that her system was safe.
In the last six months, the worm has also caused sleepless nights for the technicians who maintain corporate and governmental computer systems. European media reported that the French military grounded some of its fighter planes after the Navy's network was infected over the winter.
Companies were on high alert to any change in Conficker's behavior that could affect their systems. But a lot of the heavy lifting for big corporations has already been done. Most large organizations hurried to fix the vulnerability that Conficker exploits long ago — Microsoft released a software "patch" for it in October. Many smaller businesses and consumers started worrying about the problem later, making them more vulnerable to infection.
"Consumers are very, very, very aware of this — more so than I've seen in years," said Alfred Huger, vice president of Symantec Security Response. "Enterprises are certainly aware of this, and they're treating this seriously, but no more so than other threats they're faced with."
Detecting a Conficker infection is actually very easy. One of the telltale signs is if you're able to navigate the Internet freely but can't access Microsoft's site or the sites for the major antivirus software vendors. Conficker's authors included that feature to prevent infected machines from downloading programs that remove the worm.
That makes it harder to get the Conficker removal programs, but not impossible. Security experts recommend that people with infected machines find a friend whose machine isn't infected, and have that person download the removal tool and e-mail it to them.
Many companies that have already protected their networks from Conficker have become concerned again because of the publicity the worm generated in recent weeks as the April 1 change to Conficker's programming approached.
Michael La Pilla, manager of the malicious code operations team at VeriSign Inc.'s iDefense division, said some of his company's customers were asking for immediate notification about changes to Conficker's behavior, instead of the hourly updates that many receive.
The bad guys behind Conficker haven't been able to reliably communicate with the computers the worm has infected. That means they haven't been able to program the PCs to send spam, carry out identify-theft scams, or perform any other kind of cybercrime.
That has likely started changing with the dawn of April 1. Now the programming on the latest version of Conficker tells those infected machines to generate 50,000 new Internet addresses each day that they can try and "phone home" for instructions. Previously, they had been looking for commands from just 250 sites each day. The point of the change is to make it harder for the security community to pre-register those addresses and keep them out of the bad guys' hands.
Microsoft has offered a $250,000 bounty for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the people responsible for Conficker.
The hoopla surrounding a very arcane change to Conficker's programming code was reminiscent of the doomsday fears about the Y2K bug, when the dawn of the millennium was thought to threaten computer networks by interpreting the new year as 1900 rather than 2000.
"There are a lot of people who are on standby waiting to see what happens," said George Kurtz, senior vice president of McAfee Inc.'s risk and compliance division. "Ultimately, it could be a big event or Y2009 — April 1 rolls around and nothing happens. But that doesn't mean it's the end of the story."
GM needs a structured bankruptcy to get out of Union contracts that ass rape them on labor costs. It will be a huge negative when it comes to selling their product. I disagree with Obama's administration saying it's a "green car" issue. It's not. Even as fuel prices soar, people still buy American muscle....Trucks. No one wants to buy American sedans because of the hype surrounding foreign cars like Toyota and Honda, but no one is buying them right now either! Korean auto makers are doing very well as their quality has increased substantially and they offer a very cheap product.
I watched a CNN clip on a Buick dealership in China. They interviewed a first time car buyer buying a new Buick Lucerne. He paid $15000 USD for a new Lucerne. The Lucerne he was buying was built in China at a GM factory. A new Lucerne here is $30,000.
WTF?
~Brian
labor cost are less than 1/2, plus zero benefits (Government sponsored), most electronic components are made in country so no tariff or taxes.
Thats messed up. But I'm sure its not just the labor costs. Their materials are coming from China so they don't have to deal with the import costs.
I'm still not sure GM is going to make it out of this one.
Oh and Randy....Funny a little virus grounded an entire Airforce and disrupted the French Navy.
They probably threw up the white flag for a couple of days.
~Brian
Late Breaking Story
The women at the YFZ Latter Day Saints Ranch stole Rick Astley's haircut.
Yes I find the name of their ompound hysterical too. These are the people who let kids get married at 12 years old. :lol: if you didn't know.
Rick:
(album surely in Brians repertoire)
(http://media.onsugar.com/files/upl0/0/0/03_2008/754a9330dca05aaf17c32010.L.larger.jpg)
(http://www.mamasuperior.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/ranchwife.jpg)
Rick rocks man.
F*ck all of you haters.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 01, 2009, 09:20:55 AM
Oh and Randy....Funny a little virus grounded an entire Airforce and disrupted the French Navy.
They probably threw up the white flag for a couple of days.
~Brian
have a link?
Quote from: Krandall on April 01, 2009, 09:45:45 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 01, 2009, 09:20:55 AM
Oh and Randy....Funny a little virus grounded an entire Airforce and disrupted the French Navy.
They probably threw up the white flag for a couple of days.
~Brian
have a link?
It was in your article you posted....
"In the last six months, the worm has also caused sleepless nights for the technicians who maintain corporate and governmental computer systems. European media reported that the French military grounded some of its fighter planes after the Navy's network was infected over the winter."
~Brian
oh, gotcha! I thought you found something more.
French fighter planes grounded by computer virus
French fighter planes were unable to take off after military computers were infected by a computer virus, an intelligence magazine claims.
by Kim Willsher in Paris UK Daily Telegraph
Last Updated: 11:43AM GMT 07 Feb 2009
French fighter jets were unable to take off after military computers were attacked by a virus Photo: AFP
The aircraft were unable to download their flight plans after databases were infected by a Microsoft virus they had already been warned about several months beforehand.
At one point French naval staff were also instructed not to even open their computers.
Microsoft had warned that the "Conficker" virus, transmitted through Windows, was attacking computer systems in October last year, but according to reports the French military ignored the warning and failed to install the necessary security measures.
The French newspaper Ouest France said the virus had hit the internal computer network at the French Navy.
Jérome Erulin, French navy spokesman told the paper: "It affected exchanges of information but no information was lost. It was a security problem we had already simulated. We cut the communication links that could have transmitted the virus and 99 per cent of the network is safe."
However, the French navy admitted that during the time it took to eradicate the virus, it had to return to more traditional forms of communication: telephone, fax and post.
Naval officials said the "infection"' was probably due more to negligence than a deliberate attempt to compromise French national security. It said it suspected someone at the navy had used an infected USB key.
The Sicmar Network, on which the most sensitive documents and communications are transmitted was not touched, it said. "The computer virus problem had no effect on the availability of our forces." The virus attacked the non-secured internal French navy network called Intramar and was detected on 21 January. The whole network was affected and military staff were instructed not to start their computers.
According to Liberation newspaper, two days later the chiefs of staff decided to isolate Intramar from the military's other computer systems, but certain computers at the Villacoublay air base and in the 8th Transmissions Regiment were infected. Liberation reported that on the 15 and 16 January the Navy's Rafale aircraft were "nailed to the ground" because they were unable to "download their flight plans". The aircraft were eventually activated by "another system".
Liberation also reported that Microsoft had identified the Conficker virus in the autumn of 2008 and had advised users from October last year to update their security patches. IntelligenceOnline reports that "at the heart of the (French) military, the modifications were, for the most part, not done." It was only on the 16 January "three months later" that the navy chiefs of staffs began to act.
"At that point, the chiefs of staff and the defence ministry had no idea how many computers or military information systems were vulnerable to having been contaminated by the virus," said Liberation.
The French press also reported that the only consolation for the French Navy was that it was not the only ones to have fallen victim to the virus.
It said that a report in the military review Defense Tech revealed that in the first days of January 2009 the British Defence Ministry had been attacked by a hybrid of the virus that had substantially and seriously infected the computer systems of more than 24 RAF bases and 75 per cent of the Royal Navy fleet including the aircraft carrier Ark Royal.
~Brian
I like this Idea :)
(CNN) -- If Craig Blair gets his way, anyone filing for unemployment or food stamps must show that they are drug-free. He's a state lawmaker in West Virginia who has introduced a bill to require random drug testing for benefits and lays out his case on a Web site called notwithmytaxdollars.com.
Blair and his supporters say drug use is rampant and taxpayers are growing alarmed with how the government is spending their money.
"The message that we're trying to send is, first of all, we need to respect taxpayers and how their monies are spent," the Republican said. "And drug addiction is in epidemic proportions, and not only in West Virginia but throughout the United States."
His bill would require random drug testing for any government assistance: welfare, jobless benefits or food stamps.
Someone who failed the drug test would get the benefits and 60 days to clean up. If he failed the next test, he would lose benefits for two years.
"It seems ironic that welfare and unemployment are both designed to get you back to work and everything, but how is that possible if you're on drugs?" Blair asked.
Lawmakers in 10 states are considering some type of legislation to tie the expansion of safety-net spending to random drug testing. Similar measures in Michigan and Arizona have failed, either struck down by the courts or found to be too expensive.
amFIX: Should people be drug tested before getting benefits?
Graham Boyd, director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Drug Law Reform Project, calls it "typical political theater."
He says the measures will be challenged in court and struck down. Random drug testing is costly, and he called such measures "cruel" during a recession.
"If anything, [you'd think] people would be more compassionate now that people have lost jobs," Boyd said
But as the recession tightens its grip, momentum is growing in a handful of states to put strings on the vast expansion of safety-net spending.
According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, 10 states (Florida, Arizona, Hawaii, California, Illinois, Iowa, Arkansas, West Virginia, Virginia and New York) are considering some form of legislation requiring random drug testing for food stamps, jobless checks and other state entitlements.
It could affect millions of Americans who are turning to expanded benefits signed into law as part of the economic stimulus package.
According to the Labor Department, a record 5.6 million people from all walks of life collect jobless checks, and the government says that almost 32 million now use food stamps.
Ron Haskins of the centrist Brookings Institution takes issue with lumping jobless benefits with other state benefits.
"Unemployment insurance really is not a welfare program. It's an insurance program, which means that they've paid into the program each month they've had earnings," Haskins said. "Unless we want to cancel insurance policies because someone doesn't pass a drug test, I think that's really quite a mistake."
Critics also say that these measures don't address drug treatment, the costs of administering the tests or privacy concerns, and that they could prevent drug users from seeking benefits.
But lawmaker Blair said he has been inundated with support for his bill and says epidemic drug use and a worsening economy means it's time for some "tough love."
It's the intersection of several issues -- drug abuse, the recession and bailout overload -- and has generated passionate debate among CNN viewers.
Angie: "If we're going to drug test American citizens who receive taxpayer-funded services, then I'm assuming these drug tests will be administered to the CEOs of AIG, Citi, Wells Fargo and Bank of America as well. Shouldn't the CEO, who receives trillions of taxpayer dollars, be held to the same standard of accountability as the unemployed?"
Ron: "Monies would be better spent on cutting out the sources. The concerns over Mexico's drug cartels would be better invested than random screening of welfare recipients. ... Address the problems, not the symptoms."
Bob: "I get more than a little disturbed when I read that unemployment benefits are considered by some right-wingers to be 'taxpayer-funded handouts.' Handouts? Really? Hmmmm. Seems to me that most people pay, oh, I don't know, unemployment taxes when they are working so they have a safety net if they lose their jobs."
Albert: "Not unless they intend to offer rehab/recovery/counseling if applicants test positive. Will they be screening for alcoholism or gambling addiction? What about nicotine addiction?"
Tami: "I'm in favor. I've also been drug tested for my job. A stipulation for receiving unemployment benefits is that you are actively seeking employment. A person can't be too serious about their job search if they are high."
But Blair said, "You've got to keep in mind to that there is only a limited supply of money out here, and this is not going to hurt anybody that's not doing illicit or illegal drugs. And the fact is that if we can get this people off of the drugs and make it so they're work-ready, that will help us in West Virginia."
My online persona says "This is Bull$hit!" :lol:
In real life, I see where he is coming from.
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 01, 2009, 01:06:13 PM
My online persona says "This is Bull$hit!" :lol:
In real life, I see where he is coming from.
No doubt.
I think they already have a law in WV that you must finish high school, have a GED, or are taking the GED to recieve benefits. The owner of the store and I were talking about that yesterday. He was telling me he watched something on TV about it.
~Brian
Heard this on the radio this AM. Had the full voice transcript. :lol:
A 911 dispatcher had to tell a woman how to unlock her car on Sunday.
A woman called Kissimmee police to say she was locked inside her car at the Walgreen's on John Young Parkway near Poinciana.
"My car will not start. I'm locked inside my car," the unidentified woman said.
"Nothing electrical works. And it's getting very hot in here, and I'm not feeling well."
The dispatcher asked the woman if she was able to manually pull the lock up on the door.
The woman said she would try, and then, she said, "Yes, I got the door open."
:rofl: I'd bet money she was a blond
Quote from: Krandall on April 02, 2009, 12:43:52 PM
Heard this on the radio this AM. Had the full voice transcript. :lol:
A 911 dispatcher had to tell a woman how to unlock her car on Sunday.
A woman called Kissimmee police to say she was locked inside her car at the Walgreen's on John Young Parkway near Poinciana.
"My car will not start. I'm locked inside my car," the unidentified woman said.
"Nothing electrical works. And it's getting very hot in here, and I'm not feeling well."
The dispatcher asked the woman if she was able to manually pull the lock up on the door.
The woman said she would try, and then, she said, "Yes, I got the door open."
NO WAY.
You've got to be kidding.
What a moron!
~Brian
Quote from: BRAD on April 02, 2009, 12:52:40 PM
:rofl: I'd bet money she was a relative
I bet you're right !!!!! :lol:
Oh shit. Relative?
:lol:
~Brian
"Mom, I'm scared."
"Don't worry honey, I'm calling 911 right now. They'll tell us what to do."
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 02, 2009, 01:45:48 PM
Quote from: BRAD on April 02, 2009, 12:52:40 PM
:rofl: I'd bet money she was a relative
I bet you're right !!!!! :lol:
Probably I have some pretty stupid cousins
Quote from: BRAD on April 02, 2009, 01:49:31 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 02, 2009, 01:45:48 PM
Quote from: BRAD on April 02, 2009, 12:52:40 PM
:rofl: I'd bet money she was a relative
I bet you're right !!!!! :lol:
Probably I have some pretty stupid cousins, and I've dated them all :nana:
:confused:
Quote from: disco on April 02, 2009, 01:48:12 PM
"Mom, I'm scared."
"Don't worry honey, I'm calling 911 right now. They'll tell us what to do."
Post of the Day!
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: disco on April 02, 2009, 01:48:12 PM
"Mom, I'm scared."
"Don't worry honey, I'm calling 911 right now. They'll tell us what to do."
My Mom has been a Police Dispatcher for almost 20 years. I love the stories she has. People calling in because of Fireworks displays on the 4th of July. Car won't start, personal favorite is "the power is out, what should I do?"...etc. Morons
The pilot of the aircraft that is in my avitar is in BIG trouble. The day he came in to Sallisaw, there were 19 reports of called in over Lake Tenkiller area of a vintage WWII aircraft dive bombing the hydro-electric dam, and making low passes over homes in the area. Three A-10's from Fort Smith were on manuevers and were scrambled to the lake area to search for the airplane and neutralize the threat.
He's in deeeeeeep shznit with the FAA. I'm sure a huge fine or his certificates will be pulled.
Ouch.
No wonder why he wasn't very talkative when I was at the airport the other day.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3378/3408023154_06fd750067_o.jpg)
~Brian
guess you won't be getting that ride huh? :lol:
A-10's on an air to air intercept :rofl:
Nuetralized= Vaporized :grin_nod:
Quote from: Krandall on April 03, 2009, 09:13:57 AM
guess you won't be getting that ride huh? :lol:
Supposedly the owner of the aircraft is flying into Sallisaw. I don't know what is going on just yet, but when I find out I'll let you guys know. Chances are he'll be needing to hire a pilot to ferry the aircraft back to his home base.
~Brian
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 03, 2009, 09:14:13 AM
A-10's on an air to air intercept :rofl:
Nuetralized= Vaporized :grin_nod:
I did see A-10's pass over the day he landed here. They were coming from the north, and turned west back toward Fort Smith. There were two F-18's that passed from east to west the same day. Both flights of aircraft were 2000-2500 feet AGL. Very uncommon this far from Fort Smith.
The highway patrol is at the airport now, without their Cessna Skylane. Two Tahoes.
~Brian
What would you do with a WWII era fighter? I would be dive-bombing $hit everywhere too. :grin_nod: Making a machine gun noises in my helmet. :lol:
a-10's rock. One of my favorite aircraft.
The A-10's stationed a mile from my house are mean looking too. Awesome nose art!
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Flynbyu1973/Flying%20pictures/A10.jpg)
The "Flying Razorbacks"
~Brian
Local Name? Thought it was "warthogs".
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 03, 2009, 09:54:34 AM
Local Name? Thought it was "warthogs".
Yes, it's the local name.
188th Fighter Wing Nickname "The Flying Razorbacks"
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/188th_Fighter_Wing
~Brian
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 03, 2009, 09:54:34 AM
Local Name? Thought it was "warthogs".
[/quote
we call it bacon up here. ???
:lol:
A-10 is technically the Thunderbolt II, nicknamed WartHog for it's toughness and lack of astetic appeal. But they're a grunts best friend :thumbs:
As part of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 the federal
tax tables were adjusted. Employers were required to start using the
updated tax tables by no later than April 1, 2009. The new federal tax
table updates were loaded to PeopleSoft last week. Therefore, the paychecks
that employees receive on 04/03/2009 (for PE 03/27/2009) will reflect the
tax table changes and may result in a reduction in the federal income tax
withholding for employees. Below is information from the IRS website
(http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=204521,00.html
<http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=204521,00.html> ) that provides
more detailed information should employees have questions on how this may
impact them.
I had an extra ten spot on mine last week.
~Brian
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 03, 2009, 10:04:59 AM
A-10 is technically the Thunderbolt II, nicknamed WartHog for it's toughness and lack of astetic appeal. But they're a grunts best friend :thumbs:
The plane actually slows down when the GAU-8/A Avenger (30mm) is fired.
Unreal.
~Brian
ATLANTA - Traces of a chemical used in rocket fuel were found in samples of powdered baby formula, and could exceed what's considered a safe dose for adults if mixed with water also contaminated with the ingredient, a government study has found.
The study by scientists at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention looked for the chemical, perchlorate, in different brands of powdered baby formula. It was published last month, but the Environmental Working Group issued a press release Thursday drawing attention to it.
The chemical has turned up in several cities' drinking water supplies. It can occur naturally, but most perchlorate contamination has been tied to defense and aerospace sites.
No tests have ever shown the chemical caused health problems, but scientists have said significant amounts of perchlorate can affect thyroid function. The thyroid helps set the body's metabolism. Thyroid problems can impact fetal and infant brain development.
However, the extent of the risk is hard to assess. The government requires that formula contain iodine, which counteracts perchlorate's effects. The size of the infant and how much formula they consume are other factors that can influence risk.
The study itself sheds little light on how dangerous the perchlorate in baby formula is. "This wasn't a study of health effects," said Dr. Joshua Schier, one of the authors.
The largest amounts of the chemical were in formulas derived from cow's milk, the study said.
The researchers would not disclose the brands of formula they studied. Only a few samples were studied, so it's hard to know if the perchlorate levels would be found in all containers of those brands, a CDC spokesman said.
Earlier this year, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said it was considering setting new limits on the amount of perchlorate that would be acceptable in drinking water. A few states have already set their own limits.
The EPA has checked nearly 4,000 public water supplies serving 10,000 people or more. About 160 of the water systems had detectable levels of perchlorate, and 31 had levels high enough to exceed a new safety level the EPA is considering.
ROCKET FUEL! Don't light a match when your kid farts.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 03, 2009, 10:18:40 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 03, 2009, 10:04:59 AM
A-10 is technically the Thunderbolt II, nicknamed WartHog for it's toughness and lack of astetic appeal. But they're a grunts best friend :thumbs:
The plane actually slows down when the GAU-8/A Avenger (30mm) is fired.
Unreal.
~Brian
would actually be forced backwards at full throttle if it had enough rounds
Binghamton gunman entered firing
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/hostage_shooting
BINGHAMTON, N.Y. (AP) — A gunman entered an immigration services center in downtown Binghamton on Friday, injured at least six people and took as many as 41 hostages, officials said.
Mayor Matthew Ryan told the Binghamton Press & Sun Bulletin that there was a hostage situation involving a gunman with a high-powered rifle.
The FBI was sending hostage negotiators and an evidence response team to the scene, said a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity because the situation continued.
The newspaper reported 41 hostages in the building of the American Civic Association and said apartments were being evacuated.
Emergency dispatchers were in contact with some people inside by phone, WBNG-TV reported. The gunman might still be in the building, the newspaper reported. The Binghamton SWAT team responded.
Indications were that the shooter was a young male, and it wasn't immediately clear whether he was still in the building, the law enforcement official said.
Five people with gunshot wounds were being treated at Wilson Medical Center in Johnson City, according to hospital spokeswoman Christina Boyd.
The wounded ranged in age from 20 to their mid-50s, and their conditions ranged from stable to critical, she said.
Linda Miller, a spokeswoman at Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital in Binghamton, confirmed that a student from Binghamton University was being treated at the emergency room.
A police dispatcher who spoke to The Associated Press wouldn't confirm a number of people shot or injured.
Around 1 p.m., Pennie Kerber, 72, told the AP in a phone call from her home across the street that the scene appeared to be settling down.
"The cops are all standing around in the front now. They're still all over the roof for sure," she said. "The SWAT shooters that were to the side of the building look like they're not there any more. It looks like it's clearing."
The area is in a stretch on the west side of the Chenango River in the city of about 45,000 near the Pennsylvania border. Emergency vehicles lined the streets in the neighborhood, a mix of homes and small businesses.
College student Leslie Shrager told the AP that she and her five housemates were sleeping when police pounded on the front door of their house next door to the shooting scene.
Officers escorted the six Binghamton University students outside, she said, and that's when they learned of the shooting.
"One of our housemates thought they heard banging of some kind. But when you're living in downtown Binghamton, it's always noisy," said Shrager, of Slingerlands, an Albany suburb. "Literally two minutes later the cops came and got us out."
The American Civic Association describes itself as helping immigrants and refugees with counseling, resettlement, citizenship, family reunification and translators.
It also intervenes with emergencies, including fighting, hunger and homelessness, according to information from the association's Web site.
I just finished reading this article on the local paper website.
SWAT could save us a lot of money if they storm the place. Violent end = cheap. Talk him out = $$$.
What are people thinking when they pull stuff like this? Don't they know they always lose? One guy vs. the world and he's gonna win. :rolleyes:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/03/iowa.same.sex/index.html
I hear wedding bells in Preddy and Peels future!! :rofl:
Woman glues right eye shut
Paula Griffin, 29, squirted the hazardous liquid into her right eye by mistake after waking up with blurred vision.
Her eye was glued shut for eight hours and was only prised open again when doctors cut off her lashes.
Miss Griffin was warned she could have lost her sight forever and is still waiting to be told if there is any lasting damage.
The accident happened when she woke up and reached for a bottle of eyedrops in a bathroom cupboard.
But in her confused state she grabbed an identical-sized bottle of nail glue that was next to it.
The glue is used by beauty professionals to fix false nails and carries a toxic symbol and a warning that it bonds skin within seconds.
Paula, from Bournemouth, Dorset, said: "I was still really tired and I couldn't see very well, so I stumbled into the bathroom and picked the bottle off the shelf.
"As soon as I squeezed it, I knew something was wrong.
"I managed to stop it hitting the centre of the eye, and doctors told me later that it saved me from permanent damage.
"It was agonising. It was burning so much it was my natural instinct to shut my eye.
"But as soon as I did, my eyelashes stuck fast together and I couldn't open my eye again."
Miss Griffin, who also runs her own fancy dress business, said: "I would hate people to think I'm just some dumb blonde, because I'm not.
"It was a nasty accident, and it could have happened to anyone but I won't be putting the bottles anywhere near each other again, that's for sure."
Dr Simon Bell, consultant in emergency medicine at Poole Hospital, said: "As long as the glue remains on the outside of the eye, the injury will be extremely painful but will only have superficial or cosmetic damage."
Freaking OUCH! I knew somebody else that did that. I asked her why she had an eye bandaged up. Super glue, not eye drops.
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 03, 2009, 11:52:27 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/03/iowa.same.sex/index.html
I hear wedding bells in Preddy and Peels future!! :rofl:
STFU!
Preddy is not my type. :lol:
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 03, 2009, 12:09:18 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 03, 2009, 11:52:27 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/03/iowa.same.sex/index.html
I hear wedding bells in Preddy and Peels future!! :rofl:
STFU!
Preddy is not my type. :lol:
WTF I've never been in this thread, and I come in to share some good information and This is what I find???
FYI Peels.
Until Friday, only states in the Northeast and bordering the Pacific had granted broad legal recognition to same-sex unions, but that changed with the Iowa Supreme Court ruling ordering that gay and lesbian couples be allowed to wed."
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Some Christian DOuche on Facebook was complaining about it. SO I commented. WHo gives rat's ass about two sissies gettin hitched? Iowa has bigger problems.
:lol:
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 03, 2009, 01:34:54 PM
Some Christian DOuche on Facebook was complaining about it. SO I commented. WHo gives rat's ass about two sissies gettin hitched? Iowa has bigger problems.
:lol:
I would say a cock in your ass is a pretty big problem !!
:lol:
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 03, 2009, 02:04:30 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 03, 2009, 01:34:54 PM
Some Christian DOuche on Facebook was complaining about it. SO I commented. WHo gives rat's ass about two sissies gettin hitched? Iowa has bigger problems.
:lol:
I would say a cock in your ass is a pretty big problem !!
:lol:
Liar. You call that a WIN!. :lol:
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 03, 2009, 02:26:31 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 03, 2009, 02:04:30 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 03, 2009, 01:34:54 PM
Some Christian DOuche on Facebook was complaining about it. SO I commented. WHo gives rat's ass about two sissies gettin hitched? Iowa has bigger problems.
:lol:
I would say a cock in your ass is a pretty big problem !!
:lol:
Liar. You call that a WIN!. :lol:
This from the guy who makes goatse's sphnicter look tight? :lol:
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 03, 2009, 02:34:08 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 03, 2009, 02:26:31 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 03, 2009, 02:04:30 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 03, 2009, 01:34:54 PM
Some Christian DOuche on Facebook was complaining about it. SO I commented. WHo gives rat's ass about two sissies gettin hitched? Iowa has bigger problems.
:lol:
I would say a cock in your ass is a pretty big problem !!
:lol:
Liar. You call that a WIN!. :lol:
This from the guy who makes goatse's sphnicter look tight? :lol:
F**k you.
That is my storage compartment. The ultimate "fanny" pack. :puke:
It's handy when you need a place to park your car.
~Brian
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 03, 2009, 02:36:22 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 03, 2009, 02:34:08 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 03, 2009, 02:26:31 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 03, 2009, 02:04:30 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 03, 2009, 01:34:54 PM
Some Christian DOuche on Facebook was complaining about it. SO I commented. WHo gives rat's ass about two sissies gettin hitched? Iowa has bigger problems.
:lol:
I would say a cock in your ass is a pretty big problem !!
:lol:
Liar. You call that a WIN!. :lol:
This from the guy who makes goatse's sphnicter look tight? :lol:
F**k you.
That is my storage compartment. The ultimate "fanny" pack. :puke:
Erich said it was like swing his baseball bat inside the holland tunnel
BREAKING NEWS
i changed my username from dmx434343 to
Danny T
I keep thinking DMX = (http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/music/dmx/DMX_1.jpg)
~Brian
I forget the movie.. Wasn't it him that rode a raptor?! :clap:
yes it was!
Pimp Pays Teenage Prostitute with McNuggets
http://www.gunaxin.com/pimp-pays-teenage-prostitute-with-mcnuggets/16394
News.com.au has the story of Ronald Vikash Gander, a man who along with his girlfriend, pimped out a 16-year-old schoolgirl to have sex with men by paying her with chicken nuggets. It apparently was all part of some master plan to afford rent on their downtown apartment. Gander would receive all the money, totaling in the thousands of dollars, and the prostitute would receive nothing except for the occasional box of chicken nuggets.
These allegations came to light in the course of the trial of Gander, during which the judge exclaimed, "The girl was used as if she was a piece of meat ... and your conduct can properly be described as that of a sleaze merchant." I must say there's a certain symmetry of the judge calling the girl being used as a piece of meat, when she was paid in pieces of meat (assuming McNuggets are real meat). Gander plead guilty to several counts and was sentenced to two and a half years of jail time.
The lesson in all of this? Gander is apparently no match for Ronald McDonald, who's pimp hand is strong. Ronald is so smooth he has a Ph.D., a Pimpin' Hos Degree. Reports state that Gander had initially reached out and contacted McDonald before his arrest, but Ronald allegedly retored, "Whatchoo talkin' about, punk?! You the Baltic Avenue of this board, you talkin' to Park Place, baby!" Without Ronald's sage wisdom, Gander was lost and eventually was arrested. I will say this, Ronald is a cold-hearted bastard and would never let a ho get out of line. Hell, he even pimps out his own daughter:
The bitch was hongry.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Danny T on April 03, 2009, 02:59:59 PM
BREAKING NEWS
i changed my username from dmx434343 to
Danny T
Danny Tanner from Full House? How are th Olsen Twins? :lol:
Gay marriages expected to begin in Iowa April 24
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090404/ap_on_re_us/iowa_gay_marriage
Hey Peels, Do you have a guest room Krandall can stay in if he comes down for his big day?
DES MOINES, Iowa – Gay marriage, seemingly the province of the nation's two coasts, is just weeks away from becoming legal in the heartland and apparently it will be years before social conservatives have a chance to stop it.
The Iowa Supreme Court on Friday unanimously upheld a lower-court ruling that rejected a state law restricting marriage to a union between a man and woman. Now gays and lesbians may exchange vows as soon as April 24 following the landmark decision.
The county attorney who defended the law said he would not seek a rehearing. The only recourse for opponents appeared to be a constitutional amendment, which couldn't get on the ballot until 2012 at the earliest.
"I would say the mood is one of mourning right now in a lot of ways," said a dejected Bryan English, spokesman for the Iowa Family Policy Center, a conservative group that opposes same-sex marriage.
In the meantime, same-sex marriage opponents may try to enact residency requirements for marriage so that gays and lesbians from across the country could not travel to Iowa to wed.
U.S. Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, urged the Legislature to do so, saying he feared without residency requirements Iowa would "become the gay marriage mecca."
Only Massachusetts and Connecticut currently permit same-sex marriage. For six months last year, California's high court allowed gay marriage before voters banned it in November.
For gays and lesbians, meanwhile, the day was one of jubilation. The Vermont House of Representatives also passed a measure Friday that would allow same-sex couples to wed, on a 94-52 roll call vote, just short of the two-thirds majority needed to override a promised veto by Gov. Jim Douglas.
Gay marriage supporters hoped to convince a few Vermont legislators to switch when it comes to the override vote, which could be taken as soon as Tuesday.
In Iowa, hundreds cheered, waved rainbow flags and shed tears of joy at rallies in seven cities Friday evening. "Corn-fed and Ready to Wed!" read one man's sign at a gathering at the University of Northern Iowa in Cedar Falls.
In downtown Des Moines, about 300 people gathered beneath rainbow flags to celebrate including Des Moines Mayor Frank Cownie.
"We finally have equality in Iowa," said Harold Delaria, of Des Moines, who attended the rally and has two gay children. "It's kind of the last wall of legalized discrimination and it's coming tumbling down."
The Rev. Diane McLanahan of Trinity United Methodist Church in Des Moines acknowledged that many people of faith won't agree with the ruling. With that in mind, she said the court has reached a decision that "pretty much insists that this will not be a debate about religious rights but a matter of equality and fairness."
In its ruling, the Supreme Court upheld an August 2007 decision by a judge who found that a state law limiting marriage to a man and a woman violates the constitutional rights of equal protection.
Iowa lawmakers have "excluded a historically disfavored class of persons from a supremely important civil institution without a constitutionally sufficient justification," the justices wrote.
To issue any other decision, the seven justices said, "would be an abdication of our constitutional duty."
At a news conference announcing the decision, plaintiff Kate Varnum, 34, introduced her partner, Trish Varnum, as "my fiance."
"I never thought I'd be able to say that," she said, fighting back tears.
Jason Morgan, 38, said he and his partner, Chuck Swaggerty, adopted two sons, confronted the death of Swaggerty's mother and endured a four-year legal battle as plaintiffs.
"If being together though all of that isn't love and commitment or isn't family or marriage, then I don't know what is," Morgan said. "We are very happy with the decision today and very proud to live in Iowa."
Iowa has a history of being in the forefront on social issues. It was among the first states to legalize interracial marriage and to allow married women to own property. It was also the first state to admit a woman to the bar to practice law and was a leader in school desegregation.
Senate Majority Leader Mike Gronstal, a Democrat, said state lawmakers were unlikely to consider gay marriage legislation in this legislative session, which is expected to end within weeks.
Gronstal also said he's "not inclined" to propose a constitutional amendment during next year's session. Without a vote by the Legislature this year or next, the soonest gay marriage could be repealed would be 2014.
Amendments to Iowa's constitution must be passed by the House and Senate in two consecutive general assemblies, which each last two years, and then approved by a simple majority of voters during a general election.
Iowa's Democratic governor, Chet Culver, said he would review the decision before announcing his views.
Expect large sums of Meth to be sold!
Gays love the meth.
:lol:
~Brian
"Corn-fed and Ready to Wed!" OMFG! :lol:
Wonder if my two neighbor ladies will tie the knot... :lol:
be proud Krandall..be proud!!
This was on the front page of our paper this morning!!
http://www.thehawkeye.com/viewImage/court-reax-040409-jpg
Train vs. Ferrari
Not quite "breaking news", it's a few days old but what the heck.
http://www.kxii.com/home/headlines/42269052.html#
Click "CLICK TO PLAY ENTIRE 911 CALL" to uh... here the 911 call. :lol:
SEOUL, South Korea (CNN) -- No object entered orbit, the North American Aerospace Defense Command said Sunday, after North Korea claimed it had launched a satellite.
North Korea launched a long-range rocket Sunday, and called it a successful, peaceful launch of a satellite. But U.S. and South Korean officials called it a provocative act, amid international fears that the launch could be a missile with a warhead attached.
International reaction to reports of the launch -- which took place at about 11:30 a.m. local time -- ranged from calls for an immediate U.N. Security Council meeting to calls for measured diplomacy.
The North American Aerospace Defense Command, the U.S. and a Canadian organization that monitors space activity released a statement about the launch. What do you think about North Korean rocket launch?
"Officials acknowledged today that North Korea launched a Taepo Dong 2 missile at 10:30 p.m. EDT Saturday, which passed over the Sea of Japan and the nation of Japan," the statement said. "Stage one of the missile fell into the Sea of Japan. The remaining stages along with the payload itself landed in the Pacific Ocean. No object entered orbit and no debris fell on Japan."
But North Korean and Russian officials said the communist nation successfully launched a satellite in orbit, according to the nations' news agencies. See details of rocket and its path »
A statement on the Russia Foreign Ministry's official Web site Sunday, attributed to spokesman Andrei Nesterenko, said: "North Korea sent an artificial satellite into an earth orbit on the morning of April 5. The parameters of the satellite's orbit are being specified now."
North Korea's news agency said: "Scientists and technicians of the DPRK have succeeded in putting satellite Kwangmyongsong-2, an experimental communications satellite, into orbit by means of carrier rocket Unha-2 under the state long-term plan for the development of outer space."
South Korean Foreign Minister Yoo Myung-Hwan said Sunday: "For the time being it is believed that North Korea launched a satellite. But we have yet to determine whether it was a success or not."
U.S. President Barack Obama had harsh words about the launch. Read Obama's full comments
"With this provocative act, North Korea has ignored its international obligations, rejected unequivocal calls for restraint, and further isolated itself from the community of nations," Obama said in a statement after the launch.
"We will immediately consult with our allies in the region, including Japan and (South Korea), and members of the U.N. Security Council to bring this matter before the Council," Obama added. "I urge North Korea to abide fully by the resolutions of the U.N. Security Council and to refrain from further provocative actions."
The council scheduled a meeting for Sunday afternoon after Japan's representative to the United Nations, Yukio Takasu, sent a letter requesting an urgent meeting in response to the launch. Read world reaction to rocket launch
A spokesperson for U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said he "regrets that, against strong international appeal, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) went ahead with its planned launch. Given the volatility in the region, as well as a stalemate in interaction among the concerned parties, such a launch is not conducive to efforts to promote dialogue, regional peace and stability."
Chinese and Russian officials had a softer response, calling for restraint and calm.
Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary Takeo Kawamura told reporters after the launch that the country's military was not forced to intercept any missile, which it had pledged to do if necessary. Preliminary data show that two objects, possibly boosters from the rocket, apparently fell around Japan, one in the Sea of Japan and one in the Pacific Ocean. Watch Japan's reaction to the launch »
"They are breathing a sigh of relief," CNN correspondent Kyung Lah said. A senior Obama administration official in Washington confirmed that the rocket did clear Japan.
Japanese ships were moving Sunday to the area they believe the rocket parts fell in an effort to retrieve them, government officials said.
Still, Kawamura said his government's position is that even a communications satellite would be in violation of the Security Council resolution, saying Japan "formally denounces" the move.
The rocket was a "provocative act in violation" of a U.N. Security Council resolution on North Korea's weapons program, Fred Lash, a State Department spokesman, told reporters.
"We don't know anything on whether it had an orbital configuration," Lash said about whether the rocket might have carried a satellite. "There is nothing confirmed."
Retired Lt. Gen. Henry Obering, the former director of the U.S. Missile Defense Agency, told CNN that the launch apparently involved a "multi-stage rocket," with possibly up to three stages, referring to reports that debris fell off the waters of Japan. Watch analysis of possible motivations for the launch »
"That means it was able to go through the staging event," signaling success in the rocket reaching long-range capability.
The office of the South Korean president condemned the launch Sunday, calling it a "serious threat" to world peace, the state-sponsored Yonhap news agency reported.
"We cannot withhold our regrets and disappointment that North Korea has caused such a serious threat to peace on the Korean Peninsula and in the world by firing a long-range rocket when the entire world is joining efforts to overcome the global economic crisis," Lee Dong-kwan, a presidential spokesman said, according to Yonhap.
The Obama administration's special envoy to the Six-Party Talks, Stephen Bosworth, said last week that it didn't matter if the North Koreans were trying to put a satellite in space or testing a ballistic missile that could threaten Japan or the United States. "Whether it is a satellite launch or a missile launch, in our judgment makes no difference. It is a provocative act," Bosworth said.
Bosworth said the U.S. stands ready -- after a launch -- to participate in U.N. deliberations on new sanctions against North Korea, and will be "working very closely with our partners to ensure that after the dust of the missiles settles a bit, we get back to the longer-term priority of the missile -- of the Six-Party Talks."
He added that in his experience in dealing with North Koreans "you have to combine pressure with incentives."
U.S. Rep. Howard Berman, chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, issued a statement late Saturday and said: "The test is an unnecessary provocation that raises tensions in the region, and I urge the North Koreans to stop using their missile and WMD programs to threaten their neighbors and the rest of the world."
~Brian
Over 70 dead, 1,500 injured in central Italy quake
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_italy_earthquake
L'AQUILA, Italy – A powerful earthquake in mountainous central Italy knocked down whole blocks of buildings early Monday as residents slept, killing more than 70 people in the country's deadliest quake in nearly three decades. Tens of thousands were homeless and 1,500 were injured.
Ambulances screamed through the medieval city L'Aquila as firefighters with dogs and a crane worked feverishly to reach people trapped in fallen buildings, including a dormitory where half a dozen university students were believed still inside.
Outside the half-collapsed building, tearful young people huddled together, wrapped in blankets, some still in their slippers after being roused from sleep by the quake. Dozens managed to escape as the dorm walls fell around them but hours after the quake, a body of a male student was pulled from the rubble.
"We managed to come down with other students but we had to sneak through a hole in the stairs as the whole floor came down," said student Luigi Alfonsi, 22. "I was in bed — it was like it would never end as I heard pieces of the building collapse around me."
In the historic center of the city, a wall of the 13th century Santa Maria di Collemaggio church collapsed and the bell tower of the Renaissance San Bernadino church also fell. The 16th castle housing the Abruzzo National Museum was damaged.
L'Aquila, capital of the Abruzzo region, was near the epicenter about 70 miles (110 kilometers) northeast of Rome. It is a quake-prone region that has had at least nine smaller jolts since the beginning of April. The quake struck at 3:32 a.m. The U.S. Geological Survey said the big quake was magnitude 6.3, but Italy's National Institute of Geophysics put it at 5.8 and more than a dozen aftershocks followed.
More than 70 people were killed and the death toll was likely to rise, civil protection chief Guido Bertolaso said as rescue crews clawed through the debris of fallen homes. Some 1,500 people were injured.
The quake hit 26 towns and cities around L'Aquila, which lies in a valley surrounded by the Apennine mountains. Castelnuovo, a hamlet of about 300 people 15 miles (25 kilometers) southeast of L'Aquila, appeared hard hit, and five were confirmed dead there. Another small town, Onno, was almost leveled.
"A few houses have remained standing, but just a few," Stefania Pezzopane, provincial president of L'Aquila, told Corriere della Sera. Rescue workers in Onna, population about 250, said the town was virtually deserted as survivors sought to find shelter elsewhere.
L'Aquila Mayor Massimo Cialente said about 100,000 people were homeless. It was not clear if the mayor's estimate included surrounding towns. Some 10,000 to 15,000 buildings were either damaged or destroyed, officials said.
Premier Silvio Berlusconi declared a state of emergency, freeing up federal funds to deal with the disaster, and canceled a visit to Russia so he could deal with the quake crisis.
Condolences poured in from around the world, including from President Barack Obama, Pope Benedict XVI and Abdullah Gul, president of quake-prone Turkey.
Slabs of walls, twisted steel supports, furniture and wire fences were strewn about the streets of L'Aquila, and gray dust carpeted sidewalks, cars and residents.
Residents and rescue workers hauled away debris from collapsed buildings by hand or in an assembly lines, passing buckets. Firefighters pulled a woman covered in dust from the debris of her four-story home. Rescue crews demanded quiet as they listened for signs of life from other people believed still trapped inside.
Elsewhere, a man dressed only in his underwear wept as he was pulled from the debris and embraced.
A body lay on the sidewalk, covered by a white sheet.
Parts of L'Aquila's main hospital were evacuated because they were at risk of collapse, and only two operating rooms were in use. Bloodied victims waited in hospital hallways or in the courtyard and many were being treated in the open. A field hospital was being set up.
In the dusty streets, as aftershocks rumbled through, residents hugged one another, prayed quietly or frantically tried to call relatives. Residents covered in dust pushed carts full of clothes and blankets that they had thrown together before fleeing their homes.
"We left as soon as we felt the first tremors," said Antonio D'Ostilio, 22, as he stood on a street in L'Aquila with a huge suitcase piled with clothes. "We woke up all of a sudden and we immediately ran downstairs in our pajamas."
Evacuees converged on an athletics field on the outskirts of L'Aquila where a makeshift tent camp was being set up. Civil protection officials distributed bread and water to people who lay on the grass next to heaps of their belongings.
"It's a catastrophe and an immense shock," said resident Renato Di Stefano, who was moving with his family to the camp as a precaution. "It's struck in the heart of the city, we will never forget the pain."
This was Italy's deadliest quake since Nov. 23, 1980, when one measuring 6.9-magnitude hit southern regions, leveling villages and causing some 3,000 deaths.
Pezzopane, the provincial president, said residents may have been lulled into complacency because so many smaller quakes had jolted the area, including two or three earlier in the night.
"Considering what happened, a bit more concern, more attention might have saved lives," she said.
National officials insisted no quake can ever be predicted and that no evacuation could have been ordered on the basis of the recent jolts.
"There is no possibility of making any predictions on earthquakes. This is a fact in the world's scientific community," Civil protection chief Guido Bertolaso told reporters.
The last major quake to hit central Italy was a 5.4-magnitude temblor that struck the south-central Molise region on Oct. 31, 2002, killing 28 people, including 27 children who died when their school collapsed.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/04/microsofts-second-laptop-hunters-commercial-giampaulo-buys-an/
The second installment of Microsoft's Laptop Hunters commercials went live today, and if you thought our actress friend Lauren lit a fire, well, get ready for Giampaulo, who professes to be "technically-savvy" and calls the unibody MacBook he looks at "so sexy," but ultimately rejects it because he wants to pay for "computing power," not the "brand." Armed with a $1,500 budget, he walks out of Fry's with an HP HDX 16 that features a 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo, NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT graphics, 4GB of RAM, and a 500GB drive -- raw numbers that would cost you $2,499 from Apple, although you'd be getting a vastly better display. Fair? We leave that up to you -- video after the break.
P.S.- That's the two commercials and two HP machines purchased, anyone sensing a trend?
:sit: :lol:
Pirates seize British cargo ship in Gulf of Aden
The 32,000-tonne Malaspina Castle was taken early on Monday and was believed to be heading towards Somalia's pirate-infested coast, the European Union's Horn of Africa maritime security center said.
"Few details are known at this stage, but the mixed-nationality crew is believed to be safe," a statement on the London-based organization's Web site said.
The vessel, which is operated by an Italian company, carried a crew of 24, from Bulgaria, Ukraine, Russia and the Philippines, Britain's Telegraph newspaper reported.
"There have not yet been communications from the Malaspina Castle that we are aware of, so information is limited," said Andrew Mwangura of the Seafarers' Assistance Program in quotes carried by the Telegraph.
He added: "It is likely to be taken towards the Somali coast and negotiations will begin soon."
Meanwhile, the BBC reported that a Taiwanese fishing boat, with a crew of 29, was also hijacked Monday approximately 260km (160 miles) from the Seychelles.
The latest attacks follow a string of incidents in the pirate-plagued waterway off Somalia at the weekend, with a French yacht, a Yemeni tugboat and a German ship also reported to have been seized.
Last year, pirates attacked nearly 100 vessels and hijacked as many as 40 off Somalia, according to the International Maritime Bureau.
In response, a number of countries have deployed warships from their navies to the region, including the United States, China and Japan.
Monday's seizure of the Malaspina Castle was immediately condemned by the UK ship masters' union Nautilus, which has long urged governments to take stronger action to deter piracy.
Nautilus assistant general secretary Mark Dickinson told the British Press Association: "Over the last 10 years, most governments have not really done very much about this.
"More recently they have been motivated to act and there is an EU naval coordination force patrolling off the Gulf of Aden."
He added: "I'm not sure that this is going to be a long-term thing and I'm also worried that the pirates will start seizing ships well away from the areas being patrolled.
"In Somalia, piracy is like a big, successful industry and the authorities there need to act. The pirates are treated like local heroes. People look up to them and girls want to marry them. They are seen by some locals as good people but they are ruthless."
Mark my words, US forces will be deployed to finally solve this ferkterd nation
I'm suprised we haven't moved in there sooner.
~Brian
Maybe the shipowners should hire protection. Blackwater aka XE (whatever the new name is) should be cheaper than paying those ransoms and having their ships idle and cargo delivered late. I'm sure there are cheaper companies out there too.
The Brits could also say "Let our ship go and we won't bomb the crap out of your country. You have until our bombers get there to release the ship. " :lol: It won't take them long to avoid hijacking ships with the Union Jack.
all those ships deserve to be captured.. f*ck how long has it been that pirates have been taking ships there.. seems no one is learning a dang thing... :rolleyes:
Quote from: Krandall on April 06, 2009, 01:29:56 PM
all those ships deserve to be captured.. f*ck how long has it been that pirates have been taking ships there.. seems no one is learning a dang thing... :rolleyes:
No doubt!
ARRRRRr, walk the plank ye lil' African buggers!
Arm up some of those merchant ships like we did in WWII. Looks all innocent till you throw off the wraps and out come the guns.
I think that area has some major shipping lanes and trade routes. You'd think they would start to detour that area though. I know fueling a ship is expensive but ransoms are generally higher. :lol:
Send a cruiser. They are lightning fast. 30+ knots.
Armament: MK41 vertical launching system Standard Missile (MR); Vertical Launch ASROC (VLA) Missile; Tomahawk Cruise Missile; Six MK-46 torpedoes (from two triple mounts); Two MK 45 5-inch/54 caliber lightweight guns; Two Phalanx close-in-weapons systems.
Aircraft: Two SH-60 Seahawk (LAMPS III).
CG60 The USS Normandy
(http://www.normandy.navy.mil/site%20images/Normandy%20CG%2060%20pic%201.jpg)
A Destroyer would work too. 30+ knots, and a lot more firepower.
Armament: Standard Missile (SM-2MR); Vertical Launch ASROC (VLA) missiles; Tomahawk®; six MK-46 torpedoes (from two triple tube mounts); Close In Weapon System (CIWS), 5" MK 45 Gun, Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile (ESSM) (DDG 79 AF)
Aircraft: Two LAMPS MK III MH-60 B/R helicopters with Penguin/Hellfire missiles and MK 46/MK 50 torpedoes.
DDG69 The USS Milius
(http://www.milius.navy.mil/Site%20Images/Milius%20At%20Sea%20Battle%20Ensign.jpg)
~Brian
spent time on CG 67 (USS Shiloh), they're quick........until they're escorting an Aircraft carrier, then there dog slow in comparison :grin_nod:
Carriers are awesome. I think it's awesome to see one at a full speed turn. Saw the documentary on the USS Reagan on National Geographic. Freaking sick!
~Brian
we went to battle short off of Hawii during an exercise to rescue a fishing trawler, we were just lining up for a massive aerial picture of the Lincoln and the Nimitz (I think, been awhile) battle groups.
Anyway, so flight quarters are secured for the pic, so all the ships hit battle short (100%) power. The roost from the shilohs 77,000 shaft HP was higher than the 5" gun turrets on the aft Deck ::) Then I watched in Awe as the Lincoln pulled away like we were standing still :jaw:
Bad ass.
That would have been awesome to see!!!
~Brian
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/07/stolen.plane.pilot/index.html
:lol:
Badass Aaron! :thumbs:
I'm suprised they didn't knock him out of the sky.
He was allowed to fly 700 miles!!!
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 07, 2009, 09:53:39 AM
I'm suprised they didn't knock him out of the sky.
He was allowed to fly 700 miles!!!
~Brian
I have a feeling they didn't becuase they contacted the school from where it was stolen, and were relatively sure that there wasn't any addtional explosives, etc. onboard when the douche took off. And he was probably smart enough to avoid major cities enough to keep him alive.
I wouldn't want to be stuck in a Cessna for 7 hours. That would suck!
~Brian
I was just going to post that story Aaron. Watching it on CNN this morning. Nuts!
They Lived The Game
Marines' harrowing experiences inform an upcoming video game invoking an Iraq battle.
By Alex Pham
Wars throughout the ages have inspired great literature and film. The one in Iraq even has generated rap songs. But now there's going to be a video game based on the November 2004 battle in the Iraqi city of Fallouja that features some of the Marines who fought there.
The idea for the game, called Six Days in Fallujah, came from troops who returned with video, photos and diaries of their experiences. The battle resulted in the deaths of 38 U.S. troops and an estimated 1,200 insurgents.
Today's warriors are more likely to pick up a game controller than a paperback, so it was no surprise that the Marines turned to Atomic Games, a company in Raleigh, N.C., that makes combat simulation software for the military.
"Video games can communicate the intensity and the gravity of war to an audience who wouldn't necessarily be watching the History Channel or reading about this in the classroom," said Mike Ergo, who was in a Marine infantry battalion during the battle in Fallouja and is a consultant on the game.
Six Days in Fallujah, scheduled for release next year by El Segundo-based publisher Konami Digital Entertainment, is grounded in the harrowing experiences of three dozen Marines from Camp Pendleton's 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment. As far as video game idioms go, it's a traditional third-person shooter that puts players in the combat boots of U.S. soldiers.
At first blush, the game looks like others in its genre, including Medal of Honor and Call of Duty. What separates Six Days in Fallujah, however, is the game's primary objective.
"Our goal is to give people that insight, of what it's like to be a Marine during that event, what it's like to be a civilian in the city and what it's like to be an insurgent," said Atomic Games President Peter Tamte. "For us, the challenge was how do you present the horrors of war in a game that is also entertaining."
A game about war that is both fun and realistic is an oxymoron, "because war is not fun," said Celia Pearce, professor of digital media and director of the Experimental Game Lab at the Georgia Institute of Technology. "That's why many shooters have cartoon hyper-violence that's just physically impossible. It's exaggerated for the sake of entertainment."
Tamte and Juan Benito, the game's creative director, say they're trying to broaden the scope of what's considered entertaining in a shooting game.
The title offers narratives from more than a dozen Marines, many of whom are featured in documentary-style video interviews interspersed with the game's action.
Players also will find the game fun for the same reason boys love to play with miniature soldiers, Benito said.
"It's about having a challenge, then formulating a plan to overcome that challenge," said Benito.
This is where games and movies part ways as entertainment media, Tamte said. "The basic difference between a movie and a game is that the player can make choices in a game," he said.
One of the most difficult choices facing soldiers in Iraq today is telling civilians from insurgents. These choices are often made under fire, in a split-second.
"Our opportunity for giving people insight goes up dramatically when we can present people with the dilemmas and the choices that faced these soldiers," Tamte said.
Actor Kal Penn joining the Obama administration
WASHINGTON (CNN) - Actor and longtime Obama supporter Kal Penn is joining the Obama administration, the White House confirmed to CNN Tuesday.
The actor will be part of the White House Office of Public Liaison, which is run by Obama senior adviser Valerie Jarrett. Penn will be primarily involved in dealing with Asian American and Pacific Islander communities and the arts community.
Penn told EW.com that the new position comes after some soul-searching.
There was "'something aching in me to do something completely different and take a break from the acting thing for a while'" Penn said he told the executive producers of the TV series "House" when he explained his decision to get involved with politics full-time.
The actor also said his interest in politics has deep roots. "I've been thinking about [moving into politics] for a while. I love what I do as an actor. I couldn't love it more. . . . .probably from the time I was a kid, I really enjoyed that balance between the arts and public service."
"It's probably because of the value system my grandparents instilled in me. They marched with Gandhi in the Indian independence movement, and that was always in the back of my head. So the past couple of years I thought about it a little more."
But Penn also is leaving the door open to returning to acting at some later point. "Who's to say where any path leads? I still have a passion for it. But for the time being, I won't be acting," Penn told EW.com
Penn endorsed Obama's White House bid in late 2007, and was a frequent campaign surrogate on the trail last year.
In related news, Penn will be assuming his new postion after a stop off at the local WhiteCastle :rofl:
^^^No freakin' way^^^
:lol:
~Brian
WTF :lol: WHite Castle! :lol:
I just read that the kid who stole the plane was trying to off himself. Was hoping the US Military Jets would take him out. WUSS! :lol: Do it yourself. :rolleyes:
How embarrassing to have that fail. :rofl:
Fidel Castro asks US lawmakers how to improve ties
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090408/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_cuba_us
HAVANA – A "very healthy, very energetic" Fidel Castro asked visiting Congressional Black Caucus members what Cuba could do to help President Barack Obama improve bilateral relations during his first meeting with U.S. officials since falling ill in 2006.
Caucus leader Rep. Barbara Lee, a Democrat from California, said the ailing former Cuban president talked for nearly two hours with her and two other delegation members on Tuesday in a meeting seen as signaling Cuba's willingness to discuss better relations with the United States.
"We believe it is time to open dialogue and discussion with Cuba," Lee told a news conference in Washington upon the caucus members' return. "Cubans do want dialogue. They do want talks. They do want normal relations."
Lee said the group would present its findings to Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a fellow Democrat from California, and White House and State Department officials.
California Democratic Rep. Laura Richardson, who also met Fidel with Illinois Democratic Rep. Bobby Rush, said Castro "looked directly into our eyes" and asked how Cuba could help Obama in his efforts to change the course of U.S. foreign policy.
Richardson said she had the impression that 82-year-old Fidel wants to see changes in U.S.-Cuba relations in his lifetime.
Lee said she found Castro "very healthy, very energetic, very clear thinking."
The surprise encounter came a day after the full delegation of six representatives spent more than four hours talking privately with Cuban President Raul Castro, his first encounter with U.S. officials since formally replacing his brother as head of state nearly 14 months ago.
And it comes as Washington discusses whether to warm up long-chilly relations with Cuba. Obama has ordered an assessment of U.S. policy toward the communist nation and some members of Congress are pushing to lift a ban on Americans visiting the island.
Fidel Castro has not been seen in public since undergoing emergency intestinal surgery in July 2006 and it was his first meeting in several years with American officials. Although he gave up his presidential duties after becoming ill, he remains an influential force in Cuba.
In a column posted on a government Web site late Tuesday night, Castro wrote about his meeting with the three U.S. representatives, saying Cuban leaders "weren't aggressors, nor did we threaten the United States."
"Cuba did not have any alternative but to take the initiative," he said in explaining why he sought the lawmakers' advice on what his country could do to help Obama improve bilateral relations.
He did not spell out exactly what they recommended, but applauded "the interest and depth with which they expounded on their points of view and the quality of their simple and profound words."
"The three reflected transparency, pride in their work, their organization and the fight for their country," Castro wrote. "It's evident that they know Obama and have confidence and security in, and sympathy for him."
Among the last U.S. officials to see him face-to-face were state governors visiting the island separately on farm trade missions in 2005: Dave Heineman of Nebraska and Kathleen Blanco of Louisiana.
Lee's group was in Cuba five days on a trip meant to encourage dialogue between the United States and Cuba.
Jeffrey Davidow, the White House adviser for this month's Summit of the Americas, which Obama will attend, says the U.S. president has no plans to lift the 47-year-old trade embargo against Cuba. But he says Obama will soon ease travel and financial restrictions affecting the island as his administration reviews its Cuban policy.
Lee's delegation is sympathetic to Cuba, with most of its members openly praising the country's communist government while decrying U.S. policy.
Before the meeting with Fidel Castro was revealed, Lee said her group's talks with Raul Castro left lawmakers "convinced that President Castro sees normalization of relations and an end to the embargo as a benefit to both countries."
Bills in both houses of the U.S. Congress would effectively bar any president from prohibiting Americans from traveling to Cuba except in extreme cases such as war.
Lee predicted the measures will be approved, but said that will not spell the end of the embargo.
"This would be a wonderful step, allowing American citizens the right to travel to Cuba, but much would follow after that," she said in an interview.
The lawmakers' meeting with Raul Castro touched on few specific issues, especially thorny ones like Cuba's checkered human rights record.
"We did not come to negotiate, we came to associate and cultivate," said Democratic Rep. Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri, another delegation member.
Asked about the lawmakers' trip, U.S. State Department spokesman Robert Wood said members of Congress are free to go where they want and to discuss issues with world leaders.
"And I'm sure that the members of that delegation will be raising some of the concerns that the U.S. government has with Cuba in terms of allowing Cubans to have the same rights and freedoms as (citizens of) other countries in the hemisphere," Wood said.
I read that.
Looks like I'll be vacationing in Cuba soon.
Sweeeeeet.
~Brian
That would be AWEEESSOME!!!!
Cuba is a popular destination with Europeans and Canadians.
~Brian
Can't pay me enough to go to Cuba.
why? ???
Quote from: Krandall on April 08, 2009, 09:06:36 AM
why? ???
People are leaving there in droves, why would I go there? Crowding onto homemade rafts to get here. I will never understand that vacation mentality. If I go on Vacation, it has to be better than where I am. You will probably never see me in a third world country-but more exactly asian ones.
But, if trade AND travel were allowed to Cuba again. I would bet everything I have on it that it wouldn't be what it is now.
I've seen pictures of the city there, it's amazing and beautiful!
Cuba is a beautiful island.
The average Cuban lives on less than $20 per month....they leave for many reasons. If the US embargo would be lifted, Cuba would prosper. More so than when Russia was lending a helping hand in the late 80's. Read about Cuba before Fidel when Batista was in control. It was once the Las Vegas of the Caribbean. Batista was overthrown due to political unrest of the Cuban people, even after he held an election and was elected President in 1954. Cuba became a gangster's paradise....Al Capone even had a home there. Organized crime skyrocketed, and Batista suspended constitutional guarantees and established tighter censorship of the media. He had grown more prone to violent acts of brutality and torture, with no fear of legal repercussions.
Fidel won the people over with the promise of changes in government, and ongoing implementation of social and economic programs. This promise unfortunately had many Marxist ideas, that were opposed by the United States. When Castro nationalized many factories owned by US citizens, all hell broke loose.
There is poverty everywhere, regardless of where you travel. Parts of Hawaii even look like third world countries.
~Brian
Quote from: Krandall on April 08, 2009, 10:01:37 AM
But, if trade AND travel were allowed to Cuba again. I would bet everything I have on it that it wouldn't be what it is now.
I've seen pictures of the city there, it's amazing and beautiful!
I am sure there are metropolitan areas that are nice. But the countless people living in squalor is not my cup of tea. Cuba is a $hithole.
Read your post as well Brian. It
is a beautiful island. But I will not go there. Not interested in the culture. There IS poverty everywhere, but you don't see 100 people clinging for their lives onto a piece of shipwreck just to go to Cuba. I take this as a sign.
that's because we HAVE stuff to lose though if we try going to Cuba.. They have nothing to lose trying to come here ;)
Somali's took a US ship, but CNN is reporting that the crew retook control, but nothing offical yet.
Quote from: Krandall on April 08, 2009, 10:38:17 AM
that's because we HAVE stuff to lose though if we try going to Cuba.. They have nothing to lose trying to come here ;)
Exactly, why would I want to experience the "nothing" are escaping? :confused:
I just don't share alot of people's desire to experience alternative cultures. No offense, just not interested. Especially if it is filthy like Cuba. Definitely no Asian countries. Overpopulation is not what I consider a relaxing vacation. Just a personal opinion, guys. Hats off to those that enjoy the bizarre cultures. I am not one of them.
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 08, 2009, 10:50:28 AM
Quote from: Krandall on April 08, 2009, 10:38:17 AM
that's because we HAVE stuff to lose though if we try going to Cuba.. They have nothing to lose trying to come here ;)
Exactly, why would I want to experience the "nothing" are escaping? :confused:
I just don't share alot of people's desire to experience alternative cultures. No offense, just not interested. Especially if it is filthy like Cuba. Definitely no Asian countries. Overpopulation is not what I consider a relaxing vacation. Just a personal opinion, guys. Hats off to those that enjoy the bizarre cultures. I am not one of them.
Visiting and expeirencing other cultures is the key to understanding and peaceful co-existance......something this world could use allot more of IMO. And since I love history, there's always something to learn for me :thumbs:
Aaron
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 08, 2009, 10:45:40 AM
Somali's took a US ship, but CNN is reporting that the crew retook control, but nothing offical yet.
I've been watching that on TV. Fox news is reporting one thing, and CNN is reporting another. Fox NEws has changed their story twice now.
~Brian
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 08, 2009, 10:54:22 AM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 08, 2009, 10:50:28 AM
Quote from: Krandall on April 08, 2009, 10:38:17 AM
that's because we HAVE stuff to lose though if we try going to Cuba.. They have nothing to lose trying to come here ;)
Exactly, why would I want to experience the "nothing" are escaping? :confused:
I just don't share alot of people's desire to experience alternative cultures. No offense, just not interested. Especially if it is filthy like Cuba. Definitely no Asian countries. Overpopulation is not what I consider a relaxing vacation. Just a personal opinion, guys. Hats off to those that enjoy the bizarre cultures. I am not one of them.
Visiting and expeirencing other cultures is the key to understanding and peaceful co-existance......something this world could use allot more of IMO. And since I love history, there's always something to learn for me :thumbs:
Aaron
I do agree, but not when said culture is running people out of their country.
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 08, 2009, 10:54:22 AM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 08, 2009, 10:50:28 AM
Quote from: Krandall on April 08, 2009, 10:38:17 AM
that's because we HAVE stuff to lose though if we try going to Cuba.. They have nothing to lose trying to come here ;)
Exactly, why would I want to experience the "nothing" are escaping? :confused:
I just don't share alot of people's desire to experience alternative cultures. No offense, just not interested. Especially if it is filthy like Cuba. Definitely no Asian countries. Overpopulation is not what I consider a relaxing vacation. Just a personal opinion, guys. Hats off to those that enjoy the bizarre cultures. I am not one of them.
Visiting and expeirencing other cultures is the key to understanding and peaceful co-existance......something this world could use allot more of IMO. And since I love history, there's always something to learn for me :thumbs:
Aaron
Whoa................what happened...........I blacked out for a second.............WTF did I post???????????? :confused:
DAMN HIPPIE MIND CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!! :'(
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 08, 2009, 10:59:32 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 08, 2009, 10:54:22 AM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 08, 2009, 10:50:28 AM
Quote from: Krandall on April 08, 2009, 10:38:17 AM
that's because we HAVE stuff to lose though if we try going to Cuba.. They have nothing to lose trying to come here ;)
Exactly, why would I want to experience the "nothing" are escaping? :confused:
I just don't share alot of people's desire to experience alternative cultures. No offense, just not interested. Especially if it is filthy like Cuba. Definitely no Asian countries. Overpopulation is not what I consider a relaxing vacation. Just a personal opinion, guys. Hats off to those that enjoy the bizarre cultures. I am not one of them.
Visiting and expeirencing other cultures is the key to understanding and peaceful co-existance......something this world could use allot more of IMO. And since I love history, there's always something to learn for me :thumbs:
Aaron
Whoa................what happened...........I blacked out for a second.............WTF did I post???????????? :confused:
DAMN HIPPIE MIND CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!! :'(
I was troubled by this as well. I was waiting for "I like experiencing other cultures......right before I hit the button" :lol:
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 08, 2009, 11:03:36 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 08, 2009, 10:59:32 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 08, 2009, 10:54:22 AM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 08, 2009, 10:50:28 AM
Quote from: Krandall on April 08, 2009, 10:38:17 AM
that's because we HAVE stuff to lose though if we try going to Cuba.. They have nothing to lose trying to come here ;)
Exactly, why would I want to experience the "nothing" are escaping? :confused:
I just don't share alot of people's desire to experience alternative cultures. No offense, just not interested. Especially if it is filthy like Cuba. Definitely no Asian countries. Overpopulation is not what I consider a relaxing vacation. Just a personal opinion, guys. Hats off to those that enjoy the bizarre cultures. I am not one of them.
Visiting and expeirencing other cultures is the key to understanding and peaceful co-existance......something this world could use allot more of IMO. And since I love history, there's always something to learn for me :thumbs:
Aaron
Whoa................what happened...........I blacked out for a second.............WTF did I post???????????? :confused:
DAMN HIPPIE MIND CONTROL!!!!!!!!!!! :'(
I was troubled by this as well. I was waiting for "I like experiencing other cultures......right before I hit the button" :lol:
I will say that it's not just about us experiencing Cuba, it's also Cuban expeirencing American and Capitolism. Once they see how much money the can make, I might expect a "new" revolution over there :grin_nod:
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 08, 2009, 10:54:22 AM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 08, 2009, 10:50:28 AM
Quote from: Krandall on April 08, 2009, 10:38:17 AM
that's because we HAVE stuff to lose though if we try going to Cuba.. They have nothing to lose trying to come here ;)
Exactly, why would I want to experience the "nothing" are escaping? :confused:
I just don't share alot of people's desire to experience alternative cultures. No offense, just not interested. Especially if it is filthy like Cuba. Definitely no Asian countries. Overpopulation is not what I consider a relaxing vacation. Just a personal opinion, guys. Hats off to those that enjoy the bizarre cultures. I am not one of them.
Visiting and expeirencing other cultures is the key to understanding and peaceful co-existance......something this world could use allot more of IMO. And since I love history, there's always something to learn for me :thumbs:
Aaron
I couldn't agree more. Before I choose a destination to visit each year, I read about the history of the area. I've learned alot about diffrent cultures, and it blows me away how much history is at each place I've visited.
Cuba is a mystery to me, especially since I'm told I can't go there.
What gets me...We went to war over communist in Vietnam, and we have recognized they are a communist government, and we have established diplomatic relations with them. Why not Cuba?
~Brian
I agree Aaron. Someday...I just won't be knocking down their door to get in for awhile.
Oh, and Brian. We talk to Vietnam, because they have cheap commodities to sell us. Cubans only give us cigars and coffee. :lol:
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 08, 2009, 11:13:23 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on April 08, 2009, 10:54:22 AM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 08, 2009, 10:50:28 AM
Quote from: Krandall on April 08, 2009, 10:38:17 AM
that's because we HAVE stuff to lose though if we try going to Cuba.. They have nothing to lose trying to come here ;)
Exactly, why would I want to experience the "nothing" are escaping? :confused:
I just don't share alot of people's desire to experience alternative cultures. No offense, just not interested. Especially if it is filthy like Cuba. Definitely no Asian countries. Overpopulation is not what I consider a relaxing vacation. Just a personal opinion, guys. Hats off to those that enjoy the bizarre cultures. I am not one of them.
Visiting and expeirencing other cultures is the key to understanding and peaceful co-existance......something this world could use allot more of IMO. And since I love history, there's always something to learn for me :thumbs:
Aaron
I couldn't agree more. Before I choose a destination to visit each year, I read about the history of the area. I've learned alot about diffrent cultures, and it blows me away how much history is at each place I've visited.
Cuba is a mystery to me, especially since I'm told I can't go there.
What gets me...We went to war over communist in Vietnam, and we have recognized they are a communist government, and we have established diplomatic relations with them. Why not Cuba?
~Brian
Yes, Cuba is communist, but it's been more of the fact that has been a dictatorship under the same douche bag for 50 years IMO
It was a dictatorship under the previous douchebag that the US supported too.
~Brian
I hope the driver doesn't get charged later. Good for him, he gets shot at, he gets out his gun, he shoots, HE SCORES!!! lol
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6366239.html
No charges in north Houston freeway gunshot exchange
No charges have been filed so far in a fatal shooting earlier this week on Interstate 45.
Houston police said a man killed one man and wounded two others after they fired at him while driving in the 9400 block of North Freeway about 12:20 a.m. Wednesday.
Officers were called to a gas station in the 7400 block of North Shepherd because three males had been shot. Investigators determined that the men had been shot at the freeway and drove to the Shell station.
According to police, they were driving a white Pontiac Grand Prix when they fired gunshots at the driver of a truck. Then they exited the freeway at West Gulf Bank.
The truck driver stopped on the West Gulf Bank overpass and got a rifle from his back seat for protection, police said. As he looked over the side of the freeway to see the license plate of the Pontiac, he saw the car's driver's side window open and feared the suspects would shoot at him again.
He fired several shots at the Pontiac, hitting the passenger who was sitting in the front seat and another man who was in the back seat.
The front-seat passenger, 17, was taken to Memorial Hermann Northwest Hospital, where he later was pronounced dead.
The Ponitac's driver, who was cut in the face by flying glass and shrapnel, and rear seat passenger were treated at the hospital. Their conditions are not immediately known.
A 19-year-old man who was passenger in the car ran away, but was later found and questioned.
CIA bars contractors from doing interrogations
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- CIA Director Leon Panetta has carried through on his pledge to prohibit independent contractors from conducting interrogations of terror suspects.
In a message to agency employees on Thursday, Panetta said he had notified the congressional oversight committees about the current CIA policy regarding interrogations.
Besides discontinuing the use of contractors, the director outlined in the message other steps taken in response to executive orders issued by President Obama in January.
The harsh interrogation techniques authorized by the Bush administration will no longer be used. Panetta said questioning of suspected terrorists will follow the approaches authorized in the Army Field Manual.
The director said the agency will "not tolerate, and will continue to promptly report, any inappropriate behavior or allegations of abuse."
He said that included suspects held by Americans or those who might have been transferred to other countries.
The secret prisons used to detain terror suspects have been closed, Panetta said.
anetta said no individuals have been detained since he became director nearly two months ago. However, he said the "CIA retains the authority to detain individuals on a short-term basis."
Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein issued a statement in support of Panetta's actions, in particular the decision to drop contractors.
"I am very pleased that Mr. Panetta has announced that contractors will no longer conduct interrogations," said Feinstein, D-California and House speaker, who had previously sponsored legislation to end the process.
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( BUZZKILL!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/19129621/detail.html#-
Police: Man Stabbed Over Flatulence Problem
Hotel Mate Upset Over Gas Stabs Man
POSTED: Wednesday, April 8, 2009
UPDATED: 9:12 am EDT April 9, 2009
WACO, Texas -- A man was stabbed after causing a stink -- literally -- in a motel room while eating with a friend, police said.
Five men from the Houston area were sharing a Waco motel room Tuesday night, and two were inside the room eating when one had a flatulence problem, Waco police Officer Steve Anderson said. One man was so upset about the gas that he threw a large knife at him, cutting his leg, and then stabbed him in the chest, Anderson said.
The 35-year-old man was transported to a Waco hospital, where he was treated for what appeared to be non-life-threatening injuries, Anderson said.
Jose Braule Ramirez, 33, of Houston, was charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, police said. He was arraigned Wednesday and was being held in the McLennan County Jail on $15,000 bond and placed on an immigration hold, according to jail records. He cannot be released, even if he posts bond, until authorities verify he is in the country legally.
A jail spokeswoman who declined to give her name said she was not allowed to release information on whether Ramirez had an attorney.
Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
CNN) -- David Lance Arneson, who helped trigger the global phenomenon of role-playing games as co-inventor of "Dungeons & Dragons," has died at the age of 61.
A statement on the game's official Web site, wizards.com, said Arneson died Tuesday evening "after waging one final battle against cancer."
Arneson "developed many of the fundamental ideas of role playing: that each player controls just one hero, that heroes gain power through adventures, and that personality is as important as combat prowess," the statement said.
The game's co-creator, Gary Gygax, died last year.
In 1974, Arneson and Gygax created "Dungeons & Dragons," which allowed players to assume roles in a magical world. They could be fighters or wizards, elves or dwarfs.
"As characters journey through various lands, they search for hidden treasures while battling menacing monsters with their own brains and brawn," a description on wizards.com says.
Some games would last days or weeks -- or even longer. "Game campaigns are as limitless as the player's imaginations," wizards.com says.
What began as a hand-assembled print run of 1,000 games quickly sold out. Young people all over the world started buying up the game. By 1982, sales broke the $20 million mark.
Arneson filed a series of lawsuits against Gygax insisting he was not being given credit or proper royalties for his work creating the game. The suits were settled.
"Dungeons and Dragons" spawned video games, novels, a cartoon, and a movie. The franchise saw a surge this decade after "The Lord of the Rings" and "Harry Potter" movies took off.
~Brian
Krandall will be in mourning for weeks
Krandall posted that in shout. He is going to go undercover for nerd photos. Amazingly, he needn't dress up.
:lol:
you think I'll blend in?
(http://www.searchenginelowdown.com/uploaded_images/Geek-712146.jpg)
:lol:
Colorado rejects license plate: I love tofu ILVTOFU People could misinterpret. :lol:
http://news.aol.com/article/tofu-license-plate/420772?icid=main|htmlws-main|dl5|link5|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle%2Ftofu-license-plate%2F420772
So many hippies to kill, so little time :(
F@cking People's Republic of Boulder idiots :mad:
Tofu.
:lol:
Someone complained because tofu is nasty, not because they thought the plate was obscene.
:lol:
~Brian
Hahaha! I never thought of it like that. NOBODY loves tofu so she must have been talking about something else right?
Time for Woody to go easy on the weed......
CNN) -- Woody Harrelson defended his clash with a photographer at a New York airport Wednesday night as a case of mistaken identity -- he says he mistook the cameraman for a zombie.
Woody Harrelson says he got into a clash with a photographer because he mistook him for a zombie.
The TMZ photographer filed a complaint with police claiming the actor damaged his camera and pushed him in the face at La Guardia Airport, according to an airport spokesman.
"We're looking into this allegation and if it's warranted, we'll turn it over to the proper authorities," said Port Authority of New York and New Jersey spokesman Ron Marsico.
The photographer, who was not identified, captured the encounter on a small camera after his larger one was broken.
Harrelson, who is being sued by another TMZ photographer for an alleged assault in 2006, did not deny his involvement.
"I wrapped a movie called 'Zombieland,' in which I was constantly under assault by zombies, then flew to New York, still very much in character," Harrelson said in a statement issued Friday by his publicist.
"With my daughter at the airport I was startled by a paparazzo, who I quite understandably mistook for a zombie," he said.
TMZ.com posted two videos of the incident, including one recorded by the larger camera before it was damaged.
The first video shows the photographer following Harrelson and his daughter down an escalator and out of the terminal. It ends with Harrelson apparently reaching for the lens.
After Harrelson returns the camera to him, a scuffle appears to ensue.
"Woody, this is assault. Woody, this is assault," the photographer is heard saying. "Woody, chill out. Would you please chill out?"
The photographer continues to follow Harrelson for another four minutes as the actor and his daughter walk to the airport parking lot. At one point, Harrelson again turns toward the cameraman.
"I'm being chased by Woody Harrelson while I'm talking to you," the photographer says as he talks to an unidentified person on a cell phone.
"He hit me in my face, he broke my friggin' camera, he broke the camera in pieces," he said.
Harrelson, his daughter and a driver get inside an SUV and the encounter ends.
In the movie "Zombieland," Harrelson plays "the most frightened person on Earth" looking for refuge from zombies, according to the Internet Movie Database
Filming on the movie wrapped in Atlanta, Georgia, on Wednesday, according to director Ruben Fleischer's Web site.
TMZ photographer Josh Levine filed a lawsuit against Harrelson last year for an alleged attack outside a Hollywood nightclub in 2006.
Video of that incident, which is also posted on TMZ.com, also appeared to show Harrelson grabbing a camera and clashing with the photographer.
Los Angeles prosecutors declined to press charges against the actor, but Levine filed a suit last summer asking for $2.5 million in damages.
"Woody Harrelson has a history of anger management issues with people and we intend to put a stop to this," Cyrus Nownejad, Levine's lawyer, said Friday.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 12, 2009, 03:25:03 AM
"With my daughter at the airport I was startled by a paparazzo, who I quite understandably mistook for a zombie," he said.
I know right? I hate it when that happens. :lol:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30178013/
U.S. Navy rescues captain held by pirates
Three of the Somali captors killed, one in custody after swift operation
:clap: :clap:
I can't find any coverage on the local newspaper website.
edit. found coverage but it's not front page.
Navy Seals raided the craft. I kinda figured they would, fairly easy target for them if the could identify where the capt. was inside the boat :nod:
Quote from: disco on April 12, 2009, 01:56:37 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30178013/
U.S. Navy rescues captain held by pirates
Three of the Somali captors killed, one in custody after swift operation
:clap: :clap:
I can't find any coverage on the local newspaper website.
edit. found coverage but it's not front page.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090413/ap_on_re_af/piracy
NAIROBI, Kenya – In a daring high-seas rescue, U.S. Navy SEAL snipers killed three Somali pirates and freed the American sea captain who had offered himself as a hostage to save his crew. The operation was a victory for the world's most powerful military but angry pirates vowed Monday to retaliate.
Those threats raised fears for the safety of some 230 foreign sailors still held hostage in more than a dozen ships anchored off the coast of lawless Somalia.
"From now on, if we capture foreign ships and their respective countries try to attack us, we will kill them (the hostages)," Jamac Habeb, a 30-year-old pirate, told the Associated Press from one of Somalia's piracy hubs, Eyl. "(U.S. forces have) become our No. 1 enemy."
News of Capt. Richard Phillips' rescue caused his crew in Kenya to break into wild cheers and brought tears to the eyes of those in Phillips' hometown of Underhill, Vermont, half a world away from the Indian Ocean drama.
President Barack Obama called Phillips' courage "a model for all Americans" and said he was pleased with the rescue, but added the United States still needed help from other countries to deal with piracy and to hold pirates accountable.
The stunning resolution to a five-day standoff came Sunday in a daring nighttime assault in choppy seas after pirates had agreed to let the USS Bainbridge tow their powerless lifeboat out of rough water.
Vice Adm. Bill Gortney said Phillips, 53, was tied up and in "imminent danger" of being killed because a pirate on the lifeboat held an AK-47 assault rifle to the back of his head.
At that, the commander of Bainbridge made the split-second decision to order Navy snipers to shoot at the lifeboat, about 25-30 yards (meters) away, taking aim at the pirates' heads and shoulders.
A fourth pirate surrendered after boarding the Bainbridge earlier in the day and could face life in a U.S. prison. He had been seeking medical attention for a wound to his hand and was negotiating with U.S. officials on conditions for Phillips' release, military officials said.
In a move that surprised the pirates, the U.S.-flagged Maersk Alabama had put up a fight Wednesday when pirates boarded the ship. Until then, Somali pirates had become used to encountering no resistance once they boarded a ship in search of million-dollar ransoms.
Yet Sunday's blow to their lucrative activities is unlikely to stop pirates from threatening one of the world's busiest shipping lanes, simply because of the size of the vast area stretching from the Gulf of Aden and the coast of Somalia.
In fact, some say it may provoke retaliatory attacks against other hostages.
"This could escalate violence in this part of the world, no question about it," said Gortney, the commander of U.S. Naval Forces Central Command.
A Somali pirate agreed.
"Every country will be treated the way it treats us. In the future, America will be the one mourning and crying," Abdullahi Lami, one of the pirates holding a Greek ship anchored in the Somali town of Gaan, told The Associated Press on Monday. "We will retaliate (for) the killings of our men."
On Friday, French navy commandos stormed a pirate-held sailboat, the Tanit, in a shootout at sea that killed two pirates and one French hostage and freed four French citizens.
The drama surrounding Phillips and his ship — the first American taken hostage in the Gulf of Aden — has made headlines around the world, pitting a lone captain held by pirates on a tiny, drifting boat surrounded by U.S. warships.
The pirates still hold about a dozen ships with more than 200 crew members, according to the piracy watchdog International Maritime Bureau. Hostages are from Bulgaria, China, Germany, Indonesia, Italy, the Philippines, Russia, Taiwan, Tuvalu and Ukraine, among other countries.
Vilma de Guzman, whose husband is one of 23 Filipino sailors held hostage since Nov. 10 on chemical tanker MT Stolt Strength, feared Phillips' rescue may endanger the lives of other hostages.
"The pirates might vent their anger on them," she said. "Those released are lucky, but what about those who remain captive?"
She also criticized world media for focusing so much on the U.S. captain but giving little attention to other hostages.
Phillips was not hurt in several minutes of gunfire Sunday and the U.S. Navy's 5th Fleet said he was resting comfortably on a U.S. warship after receiving a medical exam.
Aboard the Bainbridge, sailors passed along a message from Andrea Phillips to her husband: "Richard, your family loves you, your family is praying for you, and your family is saving a chocolate Easter egg for you, unless your son eats it first."
Phillips himself deflected any praise.
"I'm just the byline. The real heroes are the Navy, the SEALs, those who have brought me home," Phillips said by phone to Maersk Line Limited President and CEO John Reinhart.
With news of the rescue, Phillips' 17,000-ton ship, which docked with his 19 crew members Saturday in Mombasa, Kenya, erupted into wild cheers. Some waved an American flag and one fired a bright red flare in celebration.
"We made it!" said crewman ATM Reza, pumping his fist in the air.
In Vermont, Maersk spokeswoman Alison McColl choked up as she stood outside the family's house and read their statement.
"Andrea and Richard have spoken. I think you can all imagine their joy, and what a happy moment that was for them. They're all just so happy and relieved.
"Andrea wanted me to tell the nation that all of your prayers and good wishes have paid off because Captain Phillips is safe," she said.
The ship had been carrying food aid bound for Rwanda, Somalia and Uganda when the ordeal began Wednesday hundreds of miles (kilometers) off Somalia's eastern coast. As the pirates clambered aboard and shot in the air, Phillips told his crew to lock themselves in a cabin and surrendered himself to safeguard his men.
Phillips was then taken hostage in an enclosed lifeboat that was soon shadowed by three U.S. warships and a helicopter. Phillips jumped out of the lifeboat Friday and tried to swim for his freedom but was recaptured when a pirate fired into the water, according to U.S. Defense Department officials.
The surviving fourth pirate was in military custody, but FBI spokesman John Miller said that would change as the situation became "more of a criminal issue than a military issue."
Kenyan Foreign Minister Moses Wetangula said his country had not received any request from the United States to try the captured pirate, but would "consider it on its own merit."
When the United States captured pirates in 2006, Kenya agreed to try them. Ten pirates were convicted and are serving prison sentences of seven years each.
Worried residents of Harardhere, another Somali pirate stronghold, gathered in the street Monday to discuss possible repercussions.
"We fear that any revenge taken by the pirates against foreign nationals could bring more attacks from the foreign navies, perhaps on our villages," Abdullahi Haji Jama, a clothing store owner, told the AP by telephone
No good can come of this.
GM told to prep for bankruptcy filing: report
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090413/us_nm/us_autos_gm
WASHINGTON, April 12 (Reuters ) – The U.S. Treasury Department is directing General Motors to lay the groundwork for a bankruptcy filing by June 1, even though the automaker has publicly stated it could reorganize outside of court, The New York Times reported on Sunday.
GM is operating under emergency U.S. government loans. It has been told by the Obama administration's task force overseeing its bailout that it must cut costs and reduce its debts in order to continue to receive aid.
The White House-appointed autos task force has given GM 60 days to come up with a restructuring plan and it is trying to determine whether the automaker can be a viable company.
Quoting sources who had been briefed on the GM plans, the Times said the goal was to prepare for a fast "surgical" bankruptcy.
The newspaper said preparations are aimed at assuring a GM bankruptcy filing is ready if the company is unable to reach agreement with bondholders to exchange roughly $28 billion in debt into equity in GM and with the United Automobile Workers union.
A plan under consideration would create a new company that would buy the "good" assets of GM after the carmaker files for bankruptcy, the Times said.
Less desirable assets, including unwanted brands, factories and health care obligations, would be left in the old company, which could be liquidated over several years, according to the paper.
Treasury officials are examining one potential outcome in which the viable GM enters and exits bankruptcy protection in as little as two weeks, using $5 billion to $7 billion in federal financing, a person briefed on the matter told the Times.
The Times sources declined to be identified because they were not authorized to discuss the process. Both GM and Treasury Department officials declined to comment, the newspaper said.
Last week, GM's chief executive said the automaker wanted to restructure out of court, but also preparing for a bankruptcy filing.
:hang:
Yup, its all over now, who is going to buy a car from a company in bankruptcy.
So, would a liquidating company come in like they do for retail places?
Chrysler went bankrupt back in the early 80's, and they survived. Bankruptcy will be rough, but that will get GMut of pricey contracts and labor issues.
~Brian
Obama to allow travel, money transfers to Cuba
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090413/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_cuba
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama directed his administration Monday to allow unlimited travel and money transfers by Cuban Americans to family in Cuba, and to take other steps to ease U.S. restrictions on the island, a senior administration official told The Associated Press.
The formal announcement was being made at the White House Monday afternoon, during presidential spokesman Robert Gibbs' daily briefing with reporters. The official spoke on condition of anonymity so as not to upstage the president's announcement.
With the changes, Obama aims to create new space for the Cuban people in their quest for political freedom and a democratic government, in part by making them less dependent on the Castro regime, the official said.
Other steps taken Monday include allowing gift parcels to be send to Cuba, and issuing licenses to increase communications among and to the Cuban people. About 1.5 million Americans have relatives in Cuba.
Obama had promised to take these steps as a presidential candidate. It has been known for over a week that he would announce them in advance of his attended this weekend of a Summit of the Americas in Trinidad and Tobago.
"There are no better ambassadors for freedom than Cuban Americans," Obama said in a campaign speech last May in Miami, the heart of the U.S. Cuban-American community. "It's time to let Cuban Americans see their mothers and fathers, their sisters and brothers. It's time to let Cuban American money make their families less dependent upon the Castro regime."
Sending money to senior government officials and Communist Party members remains prohibited. Restrictions imposed by the Bush administration had limited Cuban travel by Americans to just two weeks every three years. Visits also were confined to immediate family members.
Other steps taken Monday include expanding the things allowed in gift parcels being sent to Cuba, such as clothes, personal hygiene items, seeds, fishing gear and other personal necessities. The administration also will begin issuing licenses to allow companies to provide cell and television services to people on the island, and to allow family members to pay for relatives on Cuba to get those services, the official said.
Also in that Miami speech nearly a year ago, Obama promised to depart from what he said had been the path of previous politicians on Cuba policy — "they come down to Miami, they talk tough, they go back to Washington, and nothing changes in Cuba."
"Never, in my lifetime, have the people of Cuba known freedom. Never, in the lives of two generations of Cubans, have the people of Cuba known democracy," he said then. "This is the terrible and tragic status quo that we have known for half a century — of elections that are anything but free or fair; of dissidents locked away in dark prison cells for the crime of speaking the truth. I won't stand for this injustice, you won't stand for this injustice, and together we will stand up for freedom in Cuba."
He also promised to engage in direct diplomacy with Cuba, "without preconditions" but with "careful preparation" and "a clear agenda."
Some lawmakers, backed by business and farm groups seeing new opportunities in Cuba, are advocating wider revisions in the trade and travel bans imposed after Fidel Castro took power in Havana in 1959.
But Obama is keeping the decades-old U.S. trade embargo against Cuba in place, arguing that that policy provides leverage to pressure the regime to free all political prisoners as one step toward normalized relations with the U.S.
Quote from: Krandall on April 13, 2009, 09:11:18 AM
So, would a liquidating company come in like they do for retail places?
Kind of a bigger deal than office furniture Krandall! :lol:
They would more than likely have to auction most of them. An auction I would love to attend. :thumbs:
Good news about Cuba. Hope they can get things back to good now. :thumbs:
CNN) -- In the end, it was a single moment that brought the hostage crisis to its dramatic finish.
Three gunshots. All three fatal. Fired in the dark by three specially trained U.S. Navy SEALs as the pirates' boat rocked in the water off Somalia.
"Phenomenal shots -- 75 feet away," said Navy Vice Adm. Bill Gortney, who oversees the region.
A senior defense official told CNN that each was a shot to the head.
Gortney, in an interview Monday with CNN's "American Morning," described critical steps that led to the rescue of U.S. Capt. Richard Phillips, who was taken by pirates after they boarded his merchant ship, the Maersk Alabama, east of Somalia on Wednesday.
Four pirates had been holding Phillips in a small lifeboat, which had run out of fuel. "One of their pirates had left the lifeboat, needed medical attention and jumped onto one of our inflatable boats," Gortney said. Watch Gortney describe how SEALs shot pirates »
The pirate's need for medical help was a credit to the Maersk's crew. When the pirates first boarded their vessel, a tussle ensued, during which one of the crewmen stabbed the pirate in the hand. Four days later, the pirate's departure from the lifeboat to accept U.S. medical help -- and try to negotiate the captive's release -- left only three for the U.S. snipers to keep their eyes on.
The three were "tired," Gortney said. "The sea state was picking up. They agreed for us to tow them into little better waters as the ship was bouncing around. It was very tense."
The on-scene U.S. commander of the USS Bainbridge, which had come to try to negotiate the captain's release, could see the three remaining pirates "were very, very intense. One of them held his AK-47 in the back of the captain. We were always concerned about the imminent danger to the captain."
The pirates had repeatedly threatened to kill Phillips, Gortney said.
A Navy SEAL team had parachuted in and taken up positions on the Bainbridge's back deck.
The military had orders from President Obama authorizing lethal force if there was imminent danger. Watch how rescue played out hour by hour »
"At one point, as uncomfortable as the pirates were, they exposed themselves where there was an opportunity," Gortney said.
He gave details of that "exposure" at a news conference Sunday. He said two of the pirates had their heads and shoulders exposed, while the third was visible in the boat's pilot house, through a window.
"The on-scene commander saw that one of the pirates still held that AK-47, was very, very concerned for the captain's life -- and he ordered the shots to be taken," Gortney told CNN on Monday.
Even with the small boat "moving up and down a couple of feet," the SEALs hit their targets. "Remarkable marksmanship," Gortney said.
The moment came at 7:19 p.m. (12:19 p.m. ET) Sunday -- after sundown, military officials say.
In the minutes after, a special operations team shimmied along the tow rope to the lifeboat, confirmed that three pirates had been killed, and took Phillips back to the Navy ships that had gathered nearby.
The fourth pirate was taken into custody.
"These guys [the SEALs] are very well trained, they have a lot of experience and there has to be a lot of communication between the shooters and the people making the decision that they all three had shots, that they could make their shots successfully," retired U.S. Navy SEAL Dick Couch said on "American Morning."
He added, "Credit that on-scene commander with making a timely decision."
~Brian
Minn. man charged after playing 'Rambo' with bow
( :lol: wasnt me..... )
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090410/ap_on_fe_st/odd_drunken_archer;_ylt=Ap8DImGwuEzNQACu.dX86yXtiBIF
BURNSVILLE, Minn. – A man was charged with a felony after prosecutors alleged he tried to impress a woman by firing arrows at his neighbors' homes with a powerful bow. Police found arrows in the siding of townhomes in the man's complex on Saturday. Another arrow went through a patio door, shattering the glass.
The charges allege the 30-year-old man was "extremely intoxicated" when questioned by police. So was his female friend.
She allegedly told investigators that they had been drinking all night before the man grabbed his bow and walked onto the deck. She thought he wanted to "play Rambo."
Dakota County prosecutors said the man eventually admitted that he did it for "giggles."
The man was charged Wednesday with first-degree criminal damage to property
playing rambo wtf? :lol:
must have been peels, i tell you that you can't take that guy anywhere :lol:
You really have to go to the link for the vid.. WOW.l
Boyle's Got Talent
http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/92464?fp=1
American Idol" isn't the only launching pad for aspiring singers. Across the pond, "Britain's Got Talent" scored a huge boost in the Buzz after an unassuming contestant gave an amazing performance.
Susan Boyle (remember that name) became a Web phenomenon after singing "I Dreamed a Dream" from Les Miserables. The performance brought the audience to its feet and left the judges (including Simon Cowell) either speechless or in tears.
Before going on stage, Ms. Boyle admitted some self-deprecating facts about herself (she's never been kissed and lives alone with her cat, Pebbles). For those reasons and more, audiences were expecting the female William Hung. They were wrong.
Lookups on the sudden star posted huge gains. A no-name just the other day, Ms. Boyle quickly surged into our top 5,000 overall searches. Blogs and gossip rags went wild. The Mirror jumped on the story, reporting that while Ms. Boyle thought she "looked like a garage" on TV, she received a standing ovation when she showed up at her local church.
Other sources write that as a child, Ms. Boyle was the target of bullies because of a disability. But, with her newfound fame, she is getting the last laugh. In fact, she's already meeting with officials from Mr. Cowell's Sony BMG label. This may have been the first you've heard of her, but it certainly won't be the last. You can watch her performance below...
Quote from: robkd on April 13, 2009, 05:23:11 PM
must have been peels, i tell you that you can't take that guy anywhere :lol:
I have some issues, that I am working on. :lol: So Shut Up. :kiss:
Quote from: Krandall on April 13, 2009, 06:46:44 PM
You really have to go to the link for the vid.. WOW.l
Boyle's Got Talent
http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/92464?fp=1
American Idol" isn't the only launching pad for aspiring singers. Across the pond, "Britain's Got Talent" scored a huge boost in the Buzz after an unassuming contestant gave an amazing performance.
Susan Boyle (remember that name) became a Web phenomenon after singing "I Dreamed a Dream" from Les Miserables. The performance brought the audience to its feet and left the judges (including Simon Cowell) either speechless or in tears.
Before going on stage, Ms. Boyle admitted some self-deprecating facts about herself (she's never been kissed and lives alone with her cat, Pebbles). For those reasons and more, audiences were expecting the female William Hung. They were wrong.
Lookups on the sudden star posted huge gains. A no-name just the other day, Ms. Boyle quickly surged into our top 5,000 overall searches. Blogs and gossip rags went wild. The Mirror jumped on the story, reporting that while Ms. Boyle thought she "looked like a garage" on TV, she received a standing ovation when she showed up at her local church.
Other sources write that as a child, Ms. Boyle was the target of bullies because of a disability. But, with her newfound fame, she is getting the last laugh. In fact, she's already meeting with officials from Mr. Cowell's Sony BMG label. This may have been the first you've heard of her, but it certainly won't be the last. You can watch her performance below...
Is that for real? WTF! Shitty laptop speakers, but WOW, unexpected voice. Didn't realize Busby sang so well. :lol:
Suprising!
American Idol is more of a fashon show now. The judges always comment on the contestants wardrobe. I'm suprised this lady is getting a chance since she's very outdated.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 14, 2009, 08:38:48 AM
Suprising!
American Idol is more of a fashon show now. The judges always comment on the contestants wardrobe. I'm suprised this lady is getting a chance since she's very outdated.
~Brian
Not American Idol. It was Britain's got tallent. :thumbs:
Quote from: Krandall on April 14, 2009, 08:51:01 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 14, 2009, 08:38:48 AM
Suprising!
American Idol is more of a fashon show now. The judges always comment on the contestants wardrobe. I'm suprised this lady is getting a chance since she's very outdated.
~Brian
Not American Idol. It was Britain's got tallent. :thumbs:
Right....I'm saying it's completely different than American Idol. If it were American Idol, she would have been criticized due to her wardrobe. Of course, she's too old for Idol.
~Brian
oh, gotcha! ;)
It was funny when she started talking, the nasty british accent. and then whips out that amazing voice!
Yeah, I was shocked. Awesome. Poor thing has never been kissed.
Oh Kyle...................
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 14, 2009, 09:11:40 AM
Yeah, I was shocked. Awesome. Poor thing has never been kissed.
Oh Kyle...................
~Brian
:lol:
It's funny how someone like that can go un-noticed... or herself not realize what a voice she has
She must have been bullied like crazy, and had no self esteem.
Poor thing.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 14, 2009, 09:24:38 AM
She must have been bullied like crazy, and had no self esteem.
Poor thing.
~Brian
Only Krandall understands her pain.... :rofl:
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 14, 2009, 09:36:35 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 14, 2009, 09:24:38 AM
She must have been bullied like crazy, and had no self esteem.
Poor thing.
~Brian
Only Krandall understands her pain.... :rofl:
oh so true... :(
Alllll byyy myyyselllllllllf don't want to be................ allll byyyyyy myyyyselllllllllllf
:'(
Here is that story. A little bit out there if you ask me.
http://www.keyetv.com/news/local/story/Mother-wants-to-save-her-murdered-sons-sperm/ue5eas7QNUu4kmFDHANkfw.cspx
Mother wants to save her murdered son's sperm
"I would love to have a piece of my son that lives on with me forever," Nikolas' mother, Marissa Evans, said.
A mother has passed a major hurtle in her quest to save the sperm of her son who was murdered in Austin last month.
An Austin judge granted Marissa Evans a 14-day injunction for the medical examiner's office to maintain the body of her son, Nikolas Evans. Marissa Evans says she needs time to find someone to harvest the sperm.
According to 21-year-old Nikolas Evans' driver's license, he did not give permission for his organs to be donated after his death. But his mother gave them up so that others may live on.
Now she wants the same - to keep Nikolas' memory alive through his sperm.
"I asked them if there was a way to harvest my son's sperm so that at some point I may be able to have a grandchild," said Nikolas' mother, Marissa Evans.
"He wanted three boys. He talked about it a lot, and i want to try to make that happen if I can," Evans said.
Cuckoo! :lol:
I got nothing for that story peels, that would be just a little akward to open the freezer and have someone ask hey whats this?
I think about the thousands of sperm I've flushed..........
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 14, 2009, 11:52:54 AM
I think about the thousands of sperm I've flushed..........
:lol:
~Brian
What they could have been.... :lol:
A lot of child support payments.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 14, 2009, 11:56:11 AM
A lot of child support payments.
:lol:
~Brian
post of the day nucca! :rofl:
It was all a plan. :lol:
that's messed up right there.... How do you jerk off a dead guy...?
:lol:
Quote from: Krandall on April 14, 2009, 12:12:00 PM
that's messed up right there.... How do you jerk off a dead guy...?
:lol:
I bet Socal knows.
this definetely took a turn for the worse :thumbs: Nicely done peels :rofl:
Quote from: robkd on April 14, 2009, 12:25:32 PM
this definetely took a turn for the worse :thumbs: Nicely done peels :rofl:
I am not the one steering this sinking ship. Maybe the navigator, but I am not at the helm. :lol:
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 14, 2009, 12:15:29 PM
Quote from: Krandall on April 14, 2009, 12:12:00 PM
that's messed up right there.... How do you jerk off a dead guy...?
:lol:
I bet Socal knows.
Touche!
My "Post of the Day"
:lol:
Karma in yo' face.
~Brian
Oscar De La Hoya announces retirement
http://www.ringtv.com/blog/561/oscar_de_la_hoya_announces_retirement/
Damn... :(
Oscar De La Hoya, the face of boxing for his generation and a dominating force in the ring who now promotes the sport, announced Tuesday at a downtown Los Angeles news conference that he is retiring as an active fighter.
The charismatic "Golden Boy," 36, ends his career with 10 world titles in six weight classes, with the broadest fan base of any fighter in the United States and as one of the two biggest money makers ever in the sport with Mike Tyson.
He also transcended boxing, becoming one of the most recognizable figures in popular culture. He is particularly popular among Mexican-Americans, having grown up in a predominately Latino neighborhood in East Los Angeles.
His movie-star looks and charming personality have made him a favorite of women, who swoon when he makes public appearances and have been drawn to boxing in unprecedented numbers.
De La Hoya entered the public consciousness when he won the U.S.' only gold medal at the 1992 Olympics in Barcelona, Spain. He dedicated the medal to his late mother, a story that touched the hearts of millions and helped jump start his professional career.
As a pro, guided by promoter Bob Arum, he had a Hall of Fame career but might not have lived up to lofty expectations. He reportedly beat 17 former or current world champions but lost many of his biggest fights.
His coming out party was a second-round knockout victory over Rafael Ruelas at Caesers Palace in 1995, after which he was boxing royalty. His victory over Julio Cesar Chavez, the Mexican icon, in 1996 was a passing of the torch. And triumphs over Ike Quartey (1999) and Fernando Vargas (2002) were dramatic and important.
However, his successes were overshadowed by disappointments. His losses to Felix Trinidad (1999), Shane Mosley (2000 and 2003), Bernard Hopkins (2004), Floyd Mayweather Jr. (2007) and Manny Pacquiao in his last fight (on Dec. 6) preclude him in most eyes from being labeled a great fighter.
The Pacquiao fight was particularly painful for him. The Filipino star, naturally much smaller than De La Hoya, dished out a fearful beating until his opponent quit after the eighth round. Afterward, De La Hoya said he was "embarrassed."
The setbacks never affected his wallet, though. Even with the ups and downs, De La Hoya packed arenas wherever he fought and drew monstrous pay-per-view numbers, including an all-time record 2.4 million against then-pound-for-pound king Mayweather.
No one could touch his fan appeal in the United States.
"He was bigger than just winning championships," said television analyst Larry Merchant, who worked most of De La Hoya's biggest fights. "He was a star, one of the last fighters who have made an impact beyond boxing.
"Very few fighters have had that kind of popularity."
De La Hoya hit some bumps along the way.
Flush with fame and money as a young man, he indulged in wine, women and gambling in excess. He reportedly blew much of the money he earned early in his career at casinos. He also fathered children out of wedlock.
However, he apparently grew out of that stage. He built a fortune in the ring, put money into the community, became one of the two biggest promoters in the sport and ultimately married Puerto Rican pop singer Millie Corretjer, with whom he has two children.
Now, he'll focus his energy on his business interests and family.
"This is the natural arc in the life of a fighter," Merchant said. "It's only sad when a fighter can't get away from it, when he's defined only by fighting and is so needy of the cheers and competition that he stays too long and gets beat up over and over again.
"I don't think that's the case here. Oscar had a great career. He touched a lot of people."
He had a great career.
~Brian
The Pirate Bay Trial: The Official Verdict - Guilty
http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-trial-the-verdict-090417/
Just minutes ago the verdict in the case of The Pirate Bay Four was announced. All four defendants were accused of 'assisting in making copyright content available'. Peter Sunde: Guilty. Fredrik Neij: Guilty. Gottfrid Svartholm: Guilty. Carl Lundström: Guilty. The four receive 1 year in jail each and fines totaling $3,620,000.
While only a few weeks ago, it seems like an eternity since the trial of The Pirate Bay Four ended and the court retired to consider its verdict. The prosecution claimed that the four defendants were 'assisting in making copyright content available' and demanded millions of dollars in damages. The defense did not agree, and all pleaded not guilty - backed up by the inimitable King Kong defense.
Today, Friday April 17, the court issued its decision: article continuously updated
"The court has found that by using Pirate Bay's services there has been file-sharing of music, films and computer games to the extent the prosecutor has stated in his case," said the district court. "This file-sharing constitutes an unlawful transfer to the public of copyrighted performances."
Hide the rum.
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
~Brian
I figured they'd get a bigger fine.
Quote from: Krandall on April 17, 2009, 01:11:54 PM
I figured they'd get a bigger fine.
Bribe 'em!
~Brian
PORT-OF-SPAIN, Trinidad – The head of the Organization of American States said Friday that he will ask its members to readmit Cuba 47 years after they ousted the communist nation. And in another step toward improving relations, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called Cuban President Raul Castro's latest comments a "very welcome gesture."
After a series of overtures by U.S. President Barack Obama, Castro said Thursday that he is ready to talk with the U.S. and put "everything" on the table, even questions of human rights and political prisoners.
That prompted a warm response from Clinton: "We welcome his comments, the overture they represent and we are taking a very serious look at how we intend to respond."
As leaders of 34 nations converged on Trinidad for the Summit of the Americas — an OAS-sponsored gathering that includes every nation in the region but communist Cuba — expectations were soaring for a thaw in U.S.-Cuba relations that have been largely frozen since the Cold War.
Things seemed to be moving quickly. Obama and Clinton had earlier said that Havana needs to reciprocate after Obama's "good faith" gesture of removing restrictions on some American money and travel to Cuba. But Raul Castro's conciliatory response seemed to be enough to move things forward even without a more concrete move on U.S. sticking points.
"We're going step by step," OAS Secretary-General Jose Miguel Insulza said, explaining that he will ask the group's general assembly in May to annul the 1962 resolution that suspended Cuba.
Other leaders arriving in Trinidad also offered to help. Jamaica's prime minister, Bruce Golding, said the 15-member Caribbean Community is willing to mediate any Cuba-U.S. talks on easing tensions and lifting the decades-old American trade embargo against Cuba.
Golding told The Associated Press that Caricom leaders also agreed to not push Obama too hard on the issue during the summit.
"I'm hoping that nothing is done that will make the process more difficult and that we seek to encourage further progress rather than cause the situation once again to become polarized and intractable," he said.
Washington provides more than 70 percent of the OAS budget, which affords it certain privileges. And for 47 years, the Washington-based organization has officially considered Cuba's communist system to be incompatible with its principles.
But there is a growing clamor in the region to end efforts to isolate Cuba, not just from Raul and Fidel Castro's close friends, but also from conservative U.S. allies like Mexico.
Raul Castro spoke Thursday at a meeting of leftist leaders in Venezuela who vowed to represent Cuba's interests in Trinidad. Vehemently defending his government's resistance to the U.S., he said "the OAS should disappear" and that Cuba would never want to join the organization he called a tool of the U.S.
"The North Sea will unite with the South Seas, a serpent will be born from an eagle's egg before Cuba joins the OAS," Castro said.
Inzulza said Castro's feelings are only natural: "If my country were suspended from an organization for nearly 50 years I'd be very upset."
Castro's other comments about negotiating with the U.S. represented the most conciliatory language that either Castro brother has used with any U.S. administration since that of Dwight D. Eisenhower in early 1961, when the nations broke off relations.
Raul Castro has previously said he would be willing to discuss all issues with Obama. But Cuban officials have historically bristled at including human rights or political prisoners in the talks, saying such matters are none of the Yankees' business.
Now, he even suggested that "many other things" could be up for discussion. "We could be wrong, we admit it. We're human beings," Castro said. "We're willing to sit down to talk as it should be done, whenever."
Castro said his only conditions are that Washington treat his government as an equal, and respect "the Cuban people's right to self-determination."
Most Cubans, however, likely heard little about these overtures, unless they watched TV using illegal satellite hookups.
The Communist Party newspaper Granma on Friday did not carry Castro's comments about the U.S., focusing instead on his talks on regional matters with Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and other Latin American leaders. Granma also ignored Obama's statements about Cuba, and dealt instead with Mexican President Felipe Calderon's call to drop the embargo.
And Fidel Castro, who still pens enormously influential columns from the sidelines of power, was silent on Friday.
Obama said a relationship frozen for 50 years "won't thaw overnight." But their words seemed as historic as any that leaders of the two nations have made to one another.
Relations warmed briefly during Jimmy Carter's administration, adding direct flights between Miami and Havana and opening interests sections in lieu of embassies in each country. But that honeymoon soon ended with a refugee crisis when 125,000 Cubans fled to the United States from the Mariel port west of Havana in 1980.
Warming relations under Bill Clinton were put in the freezer after Cuban fighter jets shot down two civilian planes off the island's coast in 1996, killing the four exiles aboard.
Obama said he acted in good faith to lift restrictions on visits and money sent by Americans with families on the island — steps he called "extraordinarily significant" for the families. But he ruled out a unilateral end to the embargo, even as Clinton said Friday that "we vew the present policy as having failed."
No one should expect a sudden, major breakthrough in U.S.-Cuba relations, but these latest developments should not be lightly dismissed, said Peter DeShazo, a Latin America expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies and a former U.S. diplomat.
"These are very preliminary steps," he said in a telephone interview in Washington. "But they are significant" not only as symbolic gestures of good will but also as building blocks of a foundation for a new relationship.
___
Associated Press writers Christopher Toothaker in Cumana, Venezuela, Frank Bajak and Bert Wilkinson in Trinidad; and Anita Snow in Havana and Robert Burns in Washington contributed to this report.
~Brian
Former US congressman killed in atv crash.
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=6210097
Type of ATV crash that killed Orton all too common
April 19th, 2009 @ 5:30pm
By John Hollenhorst
JUAB COUNTY -- Former Utah Congressman Bill Orton died Saturday from a type of ATV crash that's all too common in sand dunes. It appears he went too fast over the top of a dune and wound up pinned underneath his heavy four-wheeler. As far as we know, no one witnessed Orton's ATV crash. So the precise details may never be known.
But experts say it seems pretty clear he made a common mistake that's claimed lives before in the Little Sahara Sand Dunes.
Related: Orton being remembered as a trailblazer
Former Congressman Bill Orton being remembered for his personality and his years of service.
The sand dune that killed Bill Orton doesn't look like much--not too tall, not too rough--but just steep enough to get him into trouble, like many before him.
Little Sahara Sand Dunes Manager Tim Finger said, "A lot of people tend to think about just coming out here and having fun. But it's just like driving a car. You have to think about what you are doing"
We crisscrossed the deadly dune with veteran driver Ken Poulsen. In the so-called "sandbulance," he frequently swings into action to rescue the injured in a place where wind constantly resculpts the landscape.
"It changes all the time," Poulsen said. "One day the tops of the dunes will be rounded; the next day they're like razors."
The problem is when you're going up a dune you don't know what's on the other side. And if you get to the top and it's too steep and you're going too fast, you can be in real trouble.
Poulsen recommended, "Either turn when you get to the top or stop."
Poulsen suspects Orton raced over the top. When he realized how steep the backside was, he may have suddenly applied his handbrakes, locking the front tires, so the four-wheeler flipped over and landed on top of him. It's a common mistake that leads to a lot of accidents.
"Maybe they're going a little bit too fast and they're already committed so, as they go over the dune, maybe they have a little too much speed and they lean forward a little bit too much and they flip the ATV," Finger said.
Although drivers can learn safety measures on their own, training for adults is not mandatory.
Finger said, "State of Utah requires that children in particular have to have training. We would always say you can use more training."
About two or three people a year die at Little Sahara Sand Dunes.
Managers say they think that's actually a rather low fatality rate, considering that on a busy day as many as 30,000 people are out there and a lot of them doing some pretty wild driving.
Looks like the guys inUtah are f*cked now.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 20, 2009, 08:49:25 AM
Looks like the guys inUtah are f*cked now.
~Brian
yep sad for his family...but prepare for the negative press. Our sport really needs that. :rolleyes:
Freddie Mac official found dead in apparent suicide
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_freddie_mac_official_dead
WASHINGTON – David Kellermann, the acting chief financial officer of mortgage giant Freddie Mac, was found dead at his home Wednesday morning in what police said was an apparent suicide.
Mary Ann Jennings, director of public information for the Fairfax County, Va., Police Department, said Kellermann was found dead in his Reston, Va., home. The 41-year-old Kellermann has been Freddie Mac's chief financial officer since September.
Jennings said that a crime scene crew and homicide detectives were investigating the death, but that there didn't appear to be any sign of foul play.
McLean-based Freddie Mac has been criticized heavily for reckless business practices that some argue contributed to the housing and financial crisis. Freddic Mac is a government-controlled company that owns or guarantees about 13 million home loans. CEO David Moffett resigned last month.
Freddie Mac and sibling company Fannie Mae, which together own or back more than half of the home mortgages in the country, have been hobbled by skyrocketing loan defaults and have received about $60 billion in combined federal aid.
Kellermann was named acting chief financial officer in September 2008, after the resignation of Anthony "Buddy" Piszel, who stepped down after the September 2008 government takeover. The chief financial officer is responsible for the company's financial controls, financial reporting and oversight of the company's budget and financial planning.
Before taking that job, Kellerman served as senior vice president, corporate controller and principal accounting officer. He was with Freddie Mac for more than 16 years
I bet he's about to get busted for something big.
~Brian
probably some $$ scandal. bastards. :mad:
If it goes public, the market will drop like a rock again.
~Brian
Homebuilt plane lands on street on the way to a fly-in.
From youtube: CNN: A newly-released video shows two men landing a home-built airplane Sunday. Pilot Kyle Davis, 22, and passenger Joe Surowiec were flying from Winter Haven to Sun n' Fun Fly-In in Lakeland, FL when the engine failed. Two cameras -- one in the cockpit and another facing the engine -- captured the landing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eADLzMOWgFo
For Brian/Aaron
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124027491029837401.html
Next time I'll hit that F@cker, I hate stray dogs :lol:
Dog the Bounty Hunter dodges a bullet to get Springs fugitive
April 22, 2009 - 7:07 AM
LANCE BENZEL
THE GAZETTE
Dog the Bounty Hunter reportedly encountered gunfire while chasing down a bail jumper in Colorado Springs on Tuesday night while cameras were rolling for his TV show.
Television personality Duane "Dog" Chapman and frequent sidekick Bobby Brown of Colorado Springs told police they were uninjured and managed to get their man six hours later, racking up another headline for their clip file.
"You prepare for the worst but when it happens, there's just no preparation," said Brown, the owner of Bobby Brown Bail Bonds and a longtime friend of Chapman.
The pair and their entourage had been seeking Hoang Nguyen, one of Brown's clients, as part of Chapman's reality television series on the A&E network.
"The cameras were behind me and they catch it all," Brown said. "I would hazard to guess that 99.999 (percent), it's on tape."
Nguyen, 35, missed a court date Feb. 9 in Colorado Springs on a domestic violence charge, skipping out on the $12,000 bond Brown had paid on his behalf.
After searching for leads at Vietnamese businesses and restaurants all day, the crew received a tip that Nguyen could be found at his new apartment, at the Galley Apartments at 3617 E. Uintah Ave. in east Colorado Springs, Brown said.
They spotted Nguyen in the parking lot upon arriving, and when Nguyen realized he'd been found, the fugitive turned and fired a single shot from a handgun, Brown said. He raced away on what Brown described as a "red crotch rocket."
"We were blessed because the Colorado Springs Police Department showed up with a great deal of force," he said. "They really helped with crowd control and taking reports and getting the whole situation under control."
Some of the bounty hunters on the crew, Chapman included, were armed with guns that shoot pepper spray pellets and fired at Nguyen as he sped away, Brown said. They finally caught up with the suspect at 1:30 a.m. in an alley near the apartments, where according to Brown, the man was caught after another chase.
Police investigating the shooting found no shell casings or bullet holes, said Colorado Springs police spokesman Lt. David Whitlock. Police were pursuing attempted murder charges on the basis of witness accounts alone, he said.
Nguyen, who is being held on a $25,000 bond, was advised of the pending charges in court Wednesday. His next court date was set for April 30.
Chapman, a Colorado native, last drew headlines in Colorado Springs in 2005 at the Aztec Motel on Platte Avenue, where he and Brown were searching for a fugitive. His son, Leland Chapman, was accused of assaulting the motel owner during a brawl in the parking lot.
Whitlock said Chapman's appearances in Colorado Springs have a way of going awry.
"Clearly, when Mr. Chapman and his group come to town, we seem to find a way to involve law enforcement in a way that isn't productive to community service," he said.
Chapman and his television crew are expected to continue filming in Colorado Springs over the next several weeks, Brown said. He did not know when the television show would air an episode based on Tuesday's confrontation.
badass :lol: :clap:
BBC-Doctors in Asia are treating an increasing number of men with severe injuries who have tried to increase the size of their penises by injecting themselves with Vaseline and other oils.
Now doctors in the West say the trend for self-injection is catching on in the UK and the US.
The man had used a high-pressure pneumatic grease gun to inject his penis
Mr Manit Arya
All in the name of the perfect body.
Injuries consist of severe deformations caused by tissue damage and erectile dysfunction.
Gangrene can also develop if injection causes infection.
"The practice of embellishing the human body by injecting oils beneath the skin has been known for over a century," according to urologist, Institute of Urology and Nephrology (IUN) in London, Mr Manit Arya.
"Increasing the size of the girth of the penis is common in South East Asia as well as in Japan."
"For instance, in Japan, the Yakuza often plant spherical objects under the skin of the penis to increase its size," said Mr Manit.
Travel
Doctors believe that men in Britain may be becoming interested in the practice after travelling to Asia on holiday.
In all of these cases of penis enlargement by injection of oils, dangerous side effects develop
Mr Manit Arya
However, Mr Manit and his colleagues at the IUN were extremely surprised when a 31-year old British born man presented at their clinic for treatment recently for gross abnormality of the penis and ulceration as a result of injecting oils under his skin.
"This was the first case we had seen. It was a very interesting case.
"The man had used a high-pressure pneumatic grease gun to inject his penis.
"But the girth of the man's penis continued to grow and he was no longer able to achieve an erection.
"He needed urgent treatment for both problems."
The man was treated by careful removal of dead tissue under the skin of the penis by surgery.
Counselling
He was also offered psychological counselling.
He apparently injected himself with oil to give himself more confidence sexually.
Although plastic surgeons currently conduct gender operations where a man or woman has their genitals altered, no plastic surgeon will conduct a penis girth enlargement operation.
"Unlike breast implants where some women experience severe side effects, in all of these cases of penis enlargement by injection of oils, dangerous side effects develop," Mr Manit said.
"The skin of the penis either dies or else becomes severely ulcerated in all cases."
Gender operations are currently performed in the UK when a doctor believes a person's psychological health depends on a sex change operation.
Mr Manit was one of the researchers of a IUN team who recently published a paper on grease gun injury in the Journal of The Royal Society of Medicine.
Poor lil' buggas.
~Brian
shoving a grease gun up your wanker..... Awesome! :lol:
holy crap... that's insane.. wtf... damn asians and their tiny pee-pees.
I even saw a documentary on Discovery Health that showed guys buying a bag of plastic pellets (similar to those in Airsoft guns) going to a some guy in a shack that slices their junk open, and shoves the pellets around their shaft. If I remember correctly, it was in the Philippines. They only charged $5. It was nasty....Think of the infection you would get!
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 23, 2009, 09:46:00 AM
I even saw a documentary on Discovery Health that showed guys buying a bag of plastic pellets (similar to those in Airsoft guns) going to a some guy in a shack that slices their junk open, and shoves the pellets around their shaft. If I remember correctly, it was in the Philippines. They only charged $5. It was nasty....Think of the infection you would get!
~Brian
Yuck, saw that too. First thing that came to mind: Krandall! :lol:
Earth-Like Planet Found Orbiting Far-Off Star
What may be the smallest extrasolar planet, measuring less than twice the size of Earth, has been discovered orbiting a sun-like star.
The world is far hotter than ours, however. And controversy over the size claim has heated up, too.
Astronomers used the COROT space telescope (a mission led by the French Space Agency, and also involving the European Space Agency and others) to detect the new planet as it transited its parent star, dimming the light from the star as it passed in front of it.
The host star is located 457 light-years from Earth, where one light-year is the distance light will travel in a year, or about 6 trillion miles (10 trillion kilometers).
"For the first time, we have unambiguously detected a planet that is 'rocky' in the same sense as our own Earth," said Malcolm Fridlund, ESA's COROT Project Scientist. "We now have to understand this object further to put it into context, and continue our search for smaller, more Earth-like objects with COROT."
He added, "This discovery is a very important step on the road to understanding the formation and evolution of our planet."
"It looks like the mass is not well-determined and so that's why they're saying they're not sure what the density is," Seager told SPACE.com. "They think it is terrestrial-like. It might have water ice, or it might have rocks, but it's certainly not a gas giant."
COROT scientists estimate the planet ranges from 5.7 to 11 Earth masses.
Hot discovery
One big difference in the newfound planet compared to Earth: COROT-Exo-7b is located very close to its star, orbiting once every 20 hours.
Its temperature is so high, ranging from 1,832 to 2,732 degrees Fahrenheit (1,000 to 1,500 degrees Celsius) that the researchers say the exoplanet could be covered in lava or water vapor.
The density of the planet is still under investigation, though scientists say it may be rocky like Earth and covered in liquid lava.
COROT-Exo-7b may also belong to a class of planets that are thought to be made up of water and rock in almost equal amounts. Given the high temperatures measured, the planet would likely be a very hot and humid place.
"Finding such a small planet was not a complete surprise," said Daniel Rouan, researcher at the Observatoire de Paris Lesia, who coordinates the project with Alain Leger, from Institut d'Astrophysique Spatiale. "COROT-Exo-7b belongs to a class of objects whose existence had been predicted for some time."
Small and odd
Very few of the more than 300 exoplanets found so far have a mass comparable to that of Earth and the other terrestrial planets — Venus, Mars and Mercury. That's because terrestrial planets are extremely difficult to detect.
Of the Earth-like planets detected, this is the first one spotted using the so-called transit method, which can yield both the planet's mass and radius. Other methods just reveal the planet's mass, Seager said.
The newfound planet's size status is also questioned. When astronomers study planets, they're interested in both mass and diameter.
"The claim that it is the 'smallest exoplanet' found to date is not correct," said planet-formation theorist Alan Boss of the Carnegie Institution of Washington. "It is the smallest mass exoplanet found to date that transits, but other hot super-Earths have been found that do not transit but have lower masses."
Boss was not involved in the current discovery.
For instance, he adds Gliese 876 d has "a minimum mass of 5.9 Earth masses and a best estimate for the true mass of 7.5 Earth masses."
Most of the methods used so far are indirect and sensitive to the mass of the planet, which is why bigger worlds are easier to detect.
COROT can directly measure the size of a planet's surface, which is an advantage to astronomers. In addition, because the probe is in space, it has longer periods of uninterrupted observation than from the ground.
The internal structure of COROT-Exo-7b particularly puzzles scientists, as they are unsure whether it is an "ocean planet," a kind of planet whose existence has never been proved so far.
In theory, such planets would initially be covered partially in ice, and they would later drift toward their star, with the ice melting to cover it in liquid.
Interesting. :thumbs:
Detroit woman's underwire bra deflects bullet
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090423/ap_on_fe_st/odd_bullet_stopping_bra;_ylt=AsZVbRqFdhmhj0kIpT5Qy9HtiBIF
DETROIT – The metal underwire in a Detroit woman's bra was credited with deflecting a bullet fired at her during a break-in at a neighbor's home. Detroit police Officer Leon Rahmaan said the 57-year-old woman apparently looked out her window Tuesday when one of three men fired the shot.
He said the slug smashed through her window pane before hitting the bra's underwire. It did not penetrate her skin.
Police said she may have gone to the window after a burglar alarm at the house next door sounded. Her neighbor was not at home at the time.
The suspects drove away after the shooting.
CNN) -- Venezuela will give a 300-acre island in the Delaware River to the state of New Jersey, the governor's office announced.
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez used the Earth Day celebration to announce the transfer of Petty's Island.
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez used the Earth Day celebration to announce the transfer of Petty's Island.
The Venezuelan-owned Citgo Petroleum Corp. had bought Petty's Island -- between Camden, New Jersey, and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania -- to use as a fuel storage facility.
The island is home to a pair of American bald eagles as well as several great blue herons and state-endangered black-crowned night herons, New Jersey Gov. Jon S. Corzine said in a news release Wednesday.
Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez announced the island's transfer as part of Wednesday's Earth Day celebrations. Plans are being finalized for the transition, which will not occur before 2020, Corzine's office said.
"Earth Day is a fitting time to consummate the donation of this special place," Corzine said in the news release. "Petty's Island has become an important home to bald eagles, kestrels and a wide variety of waterfowl. We are opening a new chapter in the island's long history by restoring it and giving it back to nature and the people of New Jersey."
The New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection must certify that Citgo's cleanup of the island has met state standards before the title can be transferred, the news release said.
Citgo has agreed to create a $2 million fund to allow the Natural Lands Trust, a state land-preservation board, to manage the island, the release said. The company is setting up another $1 million fund to help establish a cultural and education center.
Activities on the island will be limited to hiking and bicycle riding, the governor's office said.
~Brian
Way to step it up! I'm sure there is some sort of kick back for them though.
Quote from: Krandall on April 24, 2009, 08:22:48 AM
Way to step it up! I'm sure there is some sort of kick back for them though.
Mafia!
:lol:
I wonder if Hugo Chavez will join my mafia?
~Brian
(CNN) -- Stop, speed racers, stop.
So said Oregon State Senior Trooper David Petersen after he was able to catch up with six exotic sports cars on a stretch of Highway 18 near Grand Ronde on Thursday, according to a news release.
Perhaps a more amazing feat was that he stopped all the cars simultaneously.
"They just were all good little soldiers and pulled right over," Oregon State Police spokesman Lt. Gregg Hastings told CNN.
One of the drivers was later cited again on a different highway.
The drivers of the cars -- consisting of Ferraris, a Lamborghini and an Acura NSX -- told Petersen they were part of a group of 20 similar cars making an annual road trip, the news release said.
They were all cordial and cooperative, and were cited with speed racing, a class A traffic violation that can command a fine of $627, Hastings said.
After receiving reports Thursday morning that several sports cars were speeding and passing in no-pass zones west of Grand Ronde, Petersen set up east of the casino town, near McMinnville, and waited.
Five of the cars soon blew past him, running about 100 mph in a 55-mph zone, Hastings said. As Petersen pulled onto Highway 18 in pursuit, a sixth car passed him.
"I guess when you're going too fast, you're in a rock and a hard place," Hastings said.
Highway 18 runs from Dayton, Oregon, in the Willamette Valley to the Pacific coast. The stretch where the cars were cited is considered particularly dangerous and the Oregon Department of Transportation provides additional funding to enforce traffic laws there, Hastings said.
About two hours after the incident, another trooper pulled over the Lamborghini from the group in Multnomah Falls, about 90 miles east. The driver of the car, which bore the the license plate "BADBUL," was cited for driving 90 in a 65-mph zone, according to a news release.
You can't out run a radio, but I would not have stopped right away.
~Brian
Reports: Jay Leno hospitalized
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ic65aba1d643fc23cf1da7ad1c1a72ebd
"The Tonight Show" host Jay Leno has been hospitalized.
According to reports, Leno checked himself into a hospital Thursday for an undisclosed illness.
The Thursday and Friday tapings of "The Tonight Show" have been canceled.
Ryan Reynolds, Jules Sylvester and swing band Big Bad Voodoo Daddy were scheduled to appear on the Thursday show, which was replaced with a repeat of the episode featuring Paul Giamatti, Emma Roberts and Prince.
CNN anchor Anderson Cooper was slated to appear Friday.
This is a rare cancellation for Leno, who will bow out as the host of "Tonight" on May 29.
Man shot in head with nail gun 30 times
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/5210676/Man-shot-in-head-with-nail-gun-30-times.html
Police hope the graphic image of Chen Liu's skull will help them track down his killer.
Detectives said the nails, which measure up to 85mm long, were fired into his head by a high-powered nailgun.
His decomposed body was found floating in the Georges River in southern Sydney in November. It had been bound with electrical wire and wrapped in a domestic rug.
Since then, the trail has gone cold and detectives released the x-ray as part of a fresh appeal for information.
Officers believe Mr Liu, 27, was shot and killed before being driven to the river in his own 4WD and dumped.
Detective Inspector Mark Newham told local media that post-mortem examination results had showed Mr Liu was shot repeatedly in the head up to 30 times with a high-powered nailgun.
"Similar types of nailguns can fire nails up to 85mm long," Mr Newham said.
Detectives said the nailgun used in the murder was a standard cordless, framing, gas-charged gun, widely available for sale and hire.
Mr Liu was believed to be homosexual and lived with his partner in Rockdale. He was reported missing by a male friend two weeks before two children, aged 9 and 14, found his body while on a canoeing trip. He emigrated to Australia from China in 2000.
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01390/nail_skull_1390605c.jpg)
That's terrible. Gay or not...no one deserves to die like that.
~Brian
Quote from: Krandall on April 24, 2009, 02:50:39 PM
Man shot in head with nail gun 30 times
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/5210676/Man-shot-in-head-with-nail-gun-30-times.html
Police hope the graphic image of Chen Liu's skull will help them track down his killer.
Detectives said the nails, which measure up to 85mm long, were fired into his head by a high-powered nailgun.
His decomposed body was found floating in the Georges River in southern Sydney in November. It had been bound with electrical wire and wrapped in a domestic rug.
Since then, the trail has gone cold and detectives released the x-ray as part of a fresh appeal for information.
Officers believe Mr Liu, 27, was shot and killed before being driven to the river in his own 4WD and dumped.
Detective Inspector Mark Newham told local media that post-mortem examination results had showed Mr Liu was shot repeatedly in the head up to 30 times with a high-powered nailgun.
"Similar types of nailguns can fire nails up to 85mm long," Mr Newham said.
Detectives said the nailgun used in the murder was a standard cordless, framing, gas-charged gun, widely available for sale and hire.
Mr Liu was believed to be homosexual and lived with his partner in Rockdale. He was reported missing by a male friend two weeks before two children, aged 9 and 14, found his body while on a canoeing trip. He emigrated to Australia from China in 2000.
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01390/nail_skull_1390605c.jpg)
Damn! :wtf:
BREAKING NEWS, PEELS GETS RE-MARRIED!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_iowa_gay_marriage
Swine out-breaks. They have several cases here in San Antonio at a local school. The school is now closed and will remain closed the the rest of the week, maybe even longer.
Keep that sh*t away for me!!!! :confused:
Why is it called an out-break???
Shiiit. They dont' call it a cold pandemic when everyone starts catching a cold... Seems to me, it's just another ruse by the media to scare people.
Quote from: Krandall on April 27, 2009, 12:25:38 PM
Why is it called an out-break???
Shiiit. They dont' call it a cold pandemic when everyone starts catching a cold... Seems to me, it's just another ruse by the media to scare people.
28 cases in New York, 7 in California, 2 reported in Texas.
~Brian
they don't call it an outbreak when peels is spreadin the herpes either come to think of it......
:rofl:
Quote from: Krandall on April 27, 2009, 12:34:02 PM
they don't call it an outbreak when peels is spreadin the herpes either come to think of it......
:rofl:
Peels is stimulating the economy buy buying household chemicals for cooking.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 27, 2009, 12:37:42 PM
Quote from: Krandall on April 27, 2009, 12:34:02 PM
they don't call it an outbreak when peels is spreadin the herpes either come to think of it......
:rofl:
Peels is stimulating the economy buy buying household chemicals for cooking.
:lol:
~Brian
Reagan had "trickle down". I got "Whoosh-Boom" economics. :rofl:
New York City Flyover Photo Flop Triggers Recriminations
Many in New York and Washington are asking what the White House could have been thinking when it failed to alert New Yorkers that it was sending a 747 plane over the city to take pictures of the Air Force One backup plane with the Statue of Liberty in the background.
A photo-op over the Manhattan skyline that sent thousands of New Yorkers running for their lives has officials in Washington, D.C., running for cover.
Many New Yorkers on Tuesday were asking what the Obama administration could have been thinking when it authorized an Air Force One backup plane to fly over the city for photos capturing the presidential plane with the Statue of Liberty in the background.
The 747 plane, with an F-16 escort following close behind, circled the Statue of Liberty and the skyline near the World Trade Center site for about a half-hour. Offices were evacuated. Emergency call centers were inundated. Witnesses reported that the planes were flying dangerously low
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/28/new-york-city-jet-flyover-photo-flop-triggers-recriminations/
Quote from: Krandall on April 27, 2009, 12:34:02 PM
they don't call it an outbreak when peels is spreadin the herpes either come to think of it......
:rofl:
I just watched a Colbert report where he mentioned that...How funny!
~Brian
HES STEALIN MY SH*T! :lol:
Sorry Peels, Aaron, Erich, Brian, B-rad, and Peels.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/AP/story/1021810.html
Senate passes bill to outlaw sex with animals
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Having sex with animals could soon be outlawed in Florida.
The Senate unanimously passed a bill (SB 448) Tuesday that would make it a third degree felony for anyone to have sex with an animal. A similar bill in the House has not been debated on the floor.
Florida is one of 16 states without a law banning bestiality.
The bill sponsored by Sen. Nan Rich, D-Weston, D-Weston, would make the offense a third-degree felony, punishable by up to five years in prison. The Florida law would not apply to veterinary practices.
According to the national Humane Society, several studies highlight a link between sexual assault of animals and sex crimes against humans.
Are fish animals?
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Krandall on April 29, 2009, 12:17:02 PM
Sorry Peels, Aaron, Erich, Brian, B-rad, and Peels.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/AP/story/1021810.html
Senate passes bill to outlaw sex with animals
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Having sex with animals could soon be outlawed in Florida.
The Senate unanimously passed a bill (SB 448) Tuesday that would make it a third degree felony for anyone to have sex with an animal. A similar bill in the House has not been debated on the floor.
Florida is one of 16 states without a law banning bestiality.
The bill sponsored by Sen. Nan Rich, D-Weston, D-Weston, would make the offense a third-degree felony, punishable by up to five years in prison. The Florida law would not apply to veterinary practices.
According to the national Humane Society, several studies highlight a link between sexual assault of animals and sex crimes against humans.
LOL! :bird:
Worst part about it...is we need a bill to ban it. :rofl:
Third degree felony? Meh... :nod: :lol:
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 29, 2009, 12:19:30 PM
Are fish animals?
:lol:
~Brian
Dolphins are not fish.......
:lol:
Quote from: Krandall on April 29, 2009, 12:26:59 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 29, 2009, 12:19:30 PM
Are fish animals?
:lol:
~Brian
Dolphins are not fish.......
:lol:
You just HAD to mention the dolphin.
:lol:
~Brian
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Eeek! eeeek! eeeek!
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 29, 2009, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: Krandall on April 29, 2009, 12:17:02 PM
Sorry Peels, Aaron, Erich, Brian, B-rad, and Peels.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/florida/AP/story/1021810.html
Senate passes bill to outlaw sex with animals
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Having sex with animals could soon be outlawed in Florida.
The Senate unanimously passed a bill (SB 448) Tuesday that would make it a third degree felony for anyone to have sex with an animal. A similar bill in the House has not been debated on the floor.
Florida is one of 16 states without a law banning bestiality.
The bill sponsored by Sen. Nan Rich, D-Weston, D-Weston, would make the offense a third-degree felony, punishable by up to five years in prison. The Florida law would not apply to veterinary practices.
According to the national Humane Society, several studies highlight a link between sexual assault of animals and sex crimes against humans.
LOL! :bird:
Worst part about it...is we need a bill to ban it. :rofl:
Third degree felony? Meh... :nod: :lol:
Dat shit will never fly in Iowa!!!!! There'd be too many lonely Prom dates
All you have to do peels is become a vet then its a "medical procedure" :thumbs: Problem solved
Quote from: robkd on April 29, 2009, 02:59:16 PM
All you have to do peels is become a vet then its a "medical procedure" :thumbs: Problem solved
done. :thumbs:
anyone feeling ill?
Man loses hand in dune buggy accident
May 4th, 2009 @ 8:25am
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- A man lost his right hand after his dune buggy rolled up to a dozen times down Sand Mountain at the Little Sahara Recreation Area in Juab County.
Juab County Sheriff Alden Orme says the 37-year-old Hyrum man lost control of the vehicle on Sunday. He was flown to a Salt Lake City hospital with serious injuries but is expected to survive.
Orme says the man was experienced but that it only takes being careless one time to cause an injury.
Orme says training in sand safety is available at the recreation area's visitor's center.
(http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss82/shampoopimp/P5020801.jpg)
(http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss82/shampoopimp/P5020801-Copy.jpg)
Bet that felt good. :(
Bummer.
That sucks.
~Brian
dang, that'd really suck. :help:
Must have been hanging out while the buggy tumbled.
~Brian
He was doin a wheelie and when he came down the wheels were turned and flipped him. His steering wheel broke and went into the dash and that's how he broke his arms. When they pulled him out his one arm just hung by skin. He snapped it in the middle of his wrist and elbow.
Just read this on the message boards from that news story.
To my Dear Friend Chris,
I helped pull you out of your full size sand car after you rolled it 8 times (We watched your video). I got there after you stopped rolling and landed on your roof. You looked dead and your hand wasn't where it was supposed to be. Someone gave us their belt to stop you from bleeding out. We put it on your wrist and the bleeding stopped thank GERD!! Good thing you drink casually and you had no alcohal in your system otherwise your blood wouldn't have clotted so quickley. It took us one hour to pull you out of your car we had to take it apart. You where contious the entire time and just wanted out. It took ten of us to push together. You looked some what like a pretsel unfolding. Everyone worked together to put you on a stretcher. We had to use tie down straps for 4 wheelers, and some card board, thank GERD someone found a neck brace, the medics were running short on supplies. (I think I will donate some money when I can). The medics worked fast with alot of care. Life flight had landed by now (We were all impresed at how fast it got there). We put you in the BLM sand car, and went down the hill. Me and 10 people, some we didn't know helped put you in life flight, what an awesome team of medics and fellow duners. Your wife and daughter just arrived. Thank GERD they didn't see you on the mountain. In histeriks she asked me if you where paralized, I did my best to calm her down and told her no and that you were ok, and could feel all your limbs. She gave you a kiss and told you she loved you (you joked they should have brought a bigger helicopter). Life flight took off, I looked up the hill and all our fellow duners had flipped your car over, Shannon (Sand Craft) hooked onto your car and dragged it down the hill, George had the flat bed waiting and 20 of us picked it up and put it on the trailer. Eveybody ran back to pack up camp. It felt like it took forever. We finaly got to the University Hospital where they had some fancy docter putting your hand back on. Thirty or so of your best friends waiting sick to our stomachs wondering, is he going to keep his hand? Finaly 10:00 p.m. The docter came in and said we placed plates to mend the bone, took tendens, veins and ligiments from your leg, connected the main aritery. An hour later I got to see you contious and alert. You said to me I don't want to lose my hand. Then a finger moved I said bud I think your going to keep it!
To be honest I was just happy you were alive!
Thank you to all our friends that helped save yor life, fellow dunners, BLM, Oficer Craig, Medics even the one that got mad when we swore when things were not going good, life flight for arriving so soon, the nurses for taking care of you & the docters that are putting you back together. To the comments that are made, it's cool he has a sense of humor and I'm sure he will just laugh. Liked the religous one though that was cute. Oh be careful though his 12 year old daughter found your comments and is in hysterics. They are moving you to your room now its 3:12 p.m. on Monday they are going to do your hip replacement tomorrow, and re-open your hand to take out any sand or dead tissue.
Thank GERD for buggie insurance, & your medical insurance. You're going to be down for a while. I will have your car put back together. It will be ready when you are. We will ride again!!!
Your best friend Turbo, And all your friends
(Brian Beck).
Here's the vid of that crash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV9zSb0OUVI
Sounds like he has a good group of friends. And had an amazing team of doctors working on him.
that crash is pretty insane. ::)
That shit was wicked!
Awesome group of guys, that's for sure.
~Brian
LOS ANGELES - Dom DeLuise, the portly actor-comedian whose affable nature made him a popular character actor for decades with movie and TV audiences as well as directors and fellow actors, has died. He was 75.
(http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2008/03/DOM%20DEL.jpg)
DeLuise died Monday night, Michael DeLuise told radio station KNX on Tuesday. The comedian died in his sleep after a long illness. Calls to Dom Deluise's agent and his son were not immediately returned Tuesday.
The actor, who loved to cook and eat almost as much as he enjoyed acting, also carved out a formidable second career later in life as a chef of fine cuisine. He authored two cookbooks and would appear often on morning TV shows to whip up his favorite recipes.
As an actor, he was incredibly prolific, appearing in scores of movies and TV shows, in Broadway plays and voicing characters for numerous cartoon shows.
Writer-director-actor Mel Brooks particularly admired DeLuise's talent for offbeat comedy and cast him in several of his films, including "The Twelve Chairs," "Blazing Saddles," "Silent Movie," "History of the World Part I" and "Robin Hood: Men in Tights." DeLuise was also the voice of Pizza the Hutt in Brooks' "Star Wars" parody, "Spaceballs."
The actor also appeared frequently in films opposite his friend Burt Reynolds. Among them, "The End," "The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas," "Smokey and the Bandit II," "The Cannonball Run" and "Cannonball Run II."
Reynolds fondly recalled DeLuise in a statement issued by his publicist.
"I was thinking about this the other day," Reynolds said. "As you get older and start to lose people you love, you think about it more and I was dreading this moment. Dom always made you feel better when he was around and there will never be another like him. I never heard him say an unkind word about anyone. I will miss him very much."
Another actor-friend, Dean Martin, admired his comic abilities so much that he cast DeLuise as a regular on his 1960s comedy-variety show. In 1973, he starred in a situation comedy, "Lotsa Luck," but it proved to be short-lived.
~Brian
"To know Dom was to love him and I knew him very well. Not only was he talented and extremely funny, but he was a very special human being," said actress Carol Burnett, who starred with DeLuise on TV show "The Entertainers" in the '60s. DeLuise also appeared on "The Carol Burnett Show" in the '70s.
Other TV credits included appearances on such shows as "The Munsters," "The Girl From U.N.C.L.E.," "Burke's Law," "Sabrina the Teenage Witch" and "Diagnosis Murder."
On Broadway, DeLuise appeared in Neil Simon's "Last of the Red Hot Lovers" and other plays.
Because of his passion for food, the actor battled obesity throughout much of his life, his weight reaching as much as 325 pounds at one point. For years he resisted the efforts of family members and doctors who tried to put him on various diets. He finally agreed in 1993 when he needed hip replacement surgery and his doctor refused to perform it until he lost 100 pounds.
He and his family enrolled at the Duke University Diet and Fitness Center in Durham, N.C., and DeLuise lost enough weight for the surgery, although he gained some of it back afterward.
On the positive side, his love of food resulted in two successful cookbooks, 1988's "Eat This — It Will Make You Feel Better!" and 1997's "Eat This Too! It'll Also Make You Feel Good."
At his Pacific Palisades home, DeLuise often prepared feasts for family and friends. One lunch began with turkey soup and ended with strawberry shortcake. In between were platters of beef filet, chicken breast and sausage, a bowl of spaghetti and meatballs and a saucer of lettuce.
He strongly resembled the famed chef Paul Prudhomme and joked in a 1987 Associated Press interview that he had posed as Prudhomme while visiting his New Orleans restaurant, K-Paul's Louisiana Kitchen.
DeLuise was appearing on Broadway in "Here's Love" in the early 1960s when Garry Moore saw him and hired him to play the magician "Dominick the Great" on "The Garry Moore Show." His appearances on the hit comedy-variety program brought offers from Hollywood, and DeLuise first came to the attention of movie goers in "Fail Safe," a drama starring Henry Fonda. He followed with a comedy, "The Glass Bottom Boat," starring Doris Day, and from then on he alternated between films and television.
"I was making $7,000 a week — a lot of money back then — but I didn't even know I was rich," he recalled in 1994. "I was just having such a great time."
Day remembered him Tuesday as "such a sweet man."
"I met Dom when we were filming 'The Glass Bottom Boat,' and I loved him from the moment we met," she said from Carmel, Calif. "Not only did we have the greatest time working together, but I never laughed so hard in my life as when we were together."
He was born Dominick DeLuise in New York City on Aug. 1, 1933, to Italian immigrants. His father, who spoke only Italian, was a garbage collector, and those humble beginnings stayed with him throughout his life.
"My dad knows everything there is to know about garbage," one of the actor's sons, David DeLuise, told the AP in 2008. "He loves to pick up a broken chair and fix it."
DeLuise's introduction to acting came at age 8 when he played the title role of Peter Rabbit in a school play. He went on to graduate from New York City's famed School of Performing Arts in Manhattan.
For five years, he sought work in theater or television with little luck. He finally decided to enroll at Tufts College and study biology, with the aim of becoming a teacher.
Acting called him back, however, and he found work at the Cleveland Playhouse, appearing in stage productions that ranged from comedies like "Kiss Me Kate" to Shakespeare's "Hamlet."
"I worked two years solidly on plays and moving furniture and painting scenery and playing parts," he remarked in a 2006 interview. "It was quite an amazing learning place for me."
While working in summer stock in Provincetown, Mass., he met a beautiful young actress, Carol Arthur, and they were soon married.
The couple's three sons, Peter, Michael and David, all became actors and all appeared with their father in the 1990s TV series "SeaQuestDSV," in which Peter and Michael were regulars. David was one of the co-stars of the hit children's series "Wizards of Waverly Place."
Very Sad. Dom Deluise was hilarious. Favorite role was Caesar in History of the World.
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on May 05, 2009, 02:58:57 PM
Very Sad. Dom Deluise was hilarious. Favorite role was Caesar in History of the World.
I thought of you when I read that.
~Brian
So now who will kick it from Smokey and the Bandit? They say it comes in threes, and so far it's the death of the Pontiac and now Dom. Was B Arthur in any of the Bandit shows?
Woman stabs man accused of beating her
Police say an argument turned physical at an apartment near 100 South and 300 East early Wednesday morning. A woman allegedly stabbed a man who was beating her over the head with a toaster.
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=10
Quote from: P.I.M.P. on May 05, 2009, 08:49:21 PM
So now who will kick it from Smokey and the Bandit? They say it comes in threes, and so far it's the death of the Pontiac and now Dom. Was B Arthur in any of the Bandit shows?
No she wasn't.
Here's Dom's filmography:
* Diary of a Bachelor (1964)
* Fail-Safe (1964)
* The Glass Bottom Boat (1966)
* The Busy Body (1967)
* What's So Bad About Feeling Good? (1968)
* The Twelve Chairs (1970)
* Norwood (1970)
* Who Is Harry Kellerman and Why Is He Saying Those Terrible Things About Me? (1971)
* Every Little Crook and Nanny (1972)
* Blazing Saddles (1974)
* The Adventure of Sherlock Holmes' Smarter Brother (1975)
* Silent Movie (1976)
* The World's Greatest Lover (1977)
* Sextette (1978)
* The End (1978)
* The Cheap Detective (1978)
* The Muppet Movie (1979) (cameo)
* Hot Stuff (1979) (also director)
* The Last Married Couple in America (1980)
* Fatso (1980)
* Wholly Moses (1980)
* Smokey and the Bandit II (1980)
* History of the World, Part I (1981)
* The Cannonball Run (1981)
* Peter-No-Tail (1981) (voice in English dubbed version)
* The Secret of NIMH (1982) (voice)
* The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas (1982)
* Cannonball Run II (1984)
* Johnny Dangerously (1984)
* Haunted Honeymoon (1986)
* An American Tail (1986) (voice)
* A Taxi Driver in New York (1987)
* Spaceballs (1987) (voice only)
* Going Bananas (1988)
* Oliver & Company (1988) (voice)
* The Princess and the Dwarf (1989)
* All Dogs Go to Heaven (1989) (voice)
* Loose Cannons (1990)
* Driving Me Crazy (1991)
* An American Tail: Fievel Goes West (1991) (voice)
* Munchie (1992) (voice only)
* The Magic Voyage (1992) (voice)
* Almost Pregnant (1992)
* The Skateboard Kid (1993) (voice only)
* Happily Ever After (1993) (voice)
* Robin Hood: Men in Tights (1993)
* Don't Drink the Water (1994)
* The Silence of the Hams (1994)
* A Troll in Central Park (1994) (voice)
* All Dogs Go to Heaven 2 (1996) (voice)
* Red Line (1996)
* Boys Will Be Boys (1997)
* The Good Bad Guys (1997)
* Between the Sheets (1998) (Cameo)
* The Godson (1998)
* An American Tail: The Treasure of Manhattan Island (1998) (voice)
* Baby Geniuses (1999)
* An American Tail: The Mystery of the Night Monster (1999) (voice)
* Lion of Oz (2000) (voice)
* The Brainiacs.com (2000)
* It's All About You (2001)
* Always Greener (2001)
* My X-Girlfriend's Wedding Reception (2001)
* Remembering Mario (2003) (voice only)
* Girl Play (2004)
* Breaking the Fifth (2004)
* Bongee Bear and the Kingdom of Rhythm (2006) (voice)
~Brian
Quote from: P.I.M.P. on May 05, 2009, 08:49:21 PM
So now who will kick it from Smokey and the Bandit? They say it comes in threes, and so far it's the death of the Pontiac and now Dom. Was B Arthur in any of the Bandit shows?
Jerry Reid died (The Snowman) in sept 2008, so the three is complete.....for now
Quote from: Colorado700R on May 06, 2009, 09:42:15 AM
Quote from: P.I.M.P. on May 05, 2009, 08:49:21 PM
So now who will kick it from Smokey and the Bandit? They say it comes in threes, and so far it's the death of the Pontiac and now Dom. Was B Arthur in any of the Bandit shows?
Jerry Reid died (The Snowman) in sept 2008, so the three is complete.....for now
Burt is still with us......The mustache is alive and well.
:lol:
~Brian
Will Burts (and his mustache's) death destroy you deliverance fantasys ???
Quote from: Colorado700R on May 06, 2009, 11:07:23 AM
Will Burts (and his mustache's) death destroy you deliverance fantasys ???
No, but when he dies he needs to be burried in a "Mustache rides" shirt.
:lol:
~Brian
Obama in trouble..... :lol:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2009/05/06/am.ac.plane.photos.cnn
We all know she'd get Brian's vote :lol:
http://amfix.blogs.cnn.com/2009/05/06/porn-star-seriously-considering-senate-run/
Quote from: Krandall on May 06, 2009, 12:22:52 PM
Obama in trouble..... :lol:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2009/05/06/am.ac.plane.photos.cnn
Old news, stayed off the mainstream media for the most part. I wonder how much coverage it would of gotten if Bush did something like that. ::)
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on May 06, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: Krandall on May 06, 2009, 12:22:52 PM
Obama in trouble..... :lol:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2009/05/06/am.ac.plane.photos.cnn
Old news, stayed off the mainstream media for the most part. I wonder how much coverage it would of gotten if Bush did something like that. ::)
George would have been crucified......Obama's still popular with the majority, and is doing some things that the public like. If George would have had public support, things would have been much different for him.
~Brian
The world needs more people like this guy! He almost killed himself and cut off his arm but isn't trying to sue anybody. Maybe somebody, or something let him live because they knew what kind of person he was and wouldn't blame someone else for his actions.
Some calling for Sand Dune regulations, but injured driver isn't
May 6th, 2009 @ 10:05pm
By John Hollenhorst
SALT LAKE CITY -- The accidental death of former Congressman Bill Orton has focused new attention on the dangers of dune buggies. Now a YouTube video of a spectacular crash last Sunday at Little Sahara Sand Dunes has added to the debate.
As horrible as the crash looks, we're happy to report the driver, Chris Torres, survived; surgeons were able to reattach his severed right hand.
Torres spoke to KSL Wednesday afternoon from the intensive care unit he is hospitalized in. He said no one should use his accident as an argument for more regulation; he did a wheel stand on purpose, but the landing was not what he expected.
Chris Torres was seriously injured when his dune buggy rolled at the Little Sahara Sand Dunes last weekend. Still, he doesn't think the regulations should be placed on the recreation area.
Torres also emphasized that drugs and alcohol were not involved, and his dune buggy proved itself. "It did not crush. It did not collapse. It protected me, and I'm here alive today because the car did its job," he said.
But his friend, Ron Cobbley, who sold the dune buggy to Torres just last week, called us to emphasize a different point: unsafe conditions at Little Sahara Sand Dunes are because of crowding and extreme driving.
"My concern is there isn't any rules when you get out on the sand," Cobbley said. He wants more training and education, possibly some kind of traffic control and riders wearing helmets and wrist restraints to keep arms inside the vehicle.
Torres used a harness but not wrist restraints, a key reason he injured both arms and severed his right hand.
"It basically was a tragedy, what happened to this guy, and I don't know that it could have been prevented or not," Cobbley said. "I just think that there's no rules when it comes to off-road."
Little Sahara typically has over 100 accidents and two or three deaths each year. "There are so many folks that go there and use that area we're really surprised there aren't more accidents than occur out there," said Eric Stucki, with Utah State Parks and Recreation.
Government overseers strongly support more education, but not necessarily more regulation. "How many times have we heard that the federal government is over-regulating this activity or that activity? We have to find a balance of some sort," said Glenn Carpenter, West Desert district manager for the Bureau of Land Management.
Except for the failure to use wrist restraints, Torres says he did his wheel stand stunt safely, including the use of spotters up and down the hillside. "We did everything the way that we should have done it, correctly, and I don't think that any kind of a regulation would have helped or deterred this accident from happening," he said.
Later this year, Utah State Parks plans to launch an online training program so off-roaders can get up to speed on safety by learning at their computer.
greta story pimp!
Sexy Mormon Moms Lick Muffins, Anger Church Officials
http://www.asylum.com/2009/04/29/sexy-mormon-moms-lick-muffins-anger-church-officials/
When it comes to sexy religions, Mormons have been eating the dust of Catholic schoolgirls for too long. Now, hot Mormon moms are posing in sexy shots for a calendar to be released in June.
Chad Hardy, founder of Mormons Exposed, is the calendar's publisher. "It's very sexy, but at the same time it's so cute," Hardy said of the 2010 calendar which features the Mormon MILFs alongside muffin recipes.
Hardy was excommunicated from the Church of of Latter-day Saints in response to his male version of the calendar, entitled "Men on a Mission."
For our part, we think Hardy's dedication to bringing us beautiful Mormon moms dressed as naughty schoolteachers and dirty Santa's helpers shows that he has truly taken to heart the spirit of charity that the church embodies.
She'd make me turn mormon......
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.asylum.com/media/2009/04/mormon-mom-tmz-186.jpg)
Just call me John Smith! :lol:
Freaking mormons. :lol:
John Smith.
Muahahaha!
~Brian
Reminds me of this book. Page 25-26
http://books.google.com/books?id=Gz4WFeWIbK4C&pg=PT40&lpg=PT40&dq=buddha,+moses,+and+mohammed,+but+the+poor+mormon&source=bl&ots=H4kYerw2yZ&sig=e38GEeFEODW_gR_ymvWbmDNfT1U&hl=en&ei=dboESv3jKZKKtgPO7J2CAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#PPT40,M1
Quote from: Flynbyu on May 06, 2009, 01:13:03 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on May 06, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: Krandall on May 06, 2009, 12:22:52 PM
Obama in trouble..... :lol:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2009/05/06/am.ac.plane.photos.cnn
Old news, stayed off the mainstream media for the most part. I wonder how much coverage it would of gotten if Bush did something like that. ::)
George would have been crucified......Obama's still popular with the majority, and is doing some things that the public like. If George would have had public support, things would have been much different for him.
~Brian
You'll NEVER have any popularity if the media is against you, I don't care how good you are.....how they spin it is how we see it.
Quote from: P.I.M.P. on May 08, 2009, 05:13:22 PM
Reminds me of this book. Page 25-26
http://books.google.com/books?id=Gz4WFeWIbK4C&pg=PT40&lpg=PT40&dq=buddha,+moses,+and+mohammed,+but+the+poor+mormon&source=bl&ots=H4kYerw2yZ&sig=e38GEeFEODW_gR_ymvWbmDNfT1U&hl=en&ei=dboESv3jKZKKtgPO7J2CAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#PPT40,M1
Joe Smith.......................... :lol:
guess the multiple wives thing was his big selling point
HEPPNER, Ore. – On a spring day in 1953, two baby girls were born at Pioneer Memorial Hospital in eastern Oregon. They grew up happily, got married, had kids of their own and became grandparents. Then last summer their lives were turned upside down.
Kay Rene Reed Qualls found out that she and DeeAnn Angell Shafer were switched at birth.
They recently met for the first time and underwent DNA tests after a woman who knew both their mothers called Qualls' brother with her suspicion.
Qualls' brother, Bobby Reed, said the 86-year-old woman knew his mother and had also lived next door to the Angell family.
"She said she had something she had to get off her chest," he told the East Oregonian newspaper in a story published Monday.
The woman, whom he declined to identify by name, told him that his mother, Marjorie Angell, had insisted back in 1953 she had been given the wrong baby after the nurses returned from bathing the two newborns, but her concerns were brushed off.
The woman showed Bobby Reed a photo.
"It looked like Kay Rene in about 7th or 8th grade," he said.
But it wasn't. It was DeeAnn Shafer's sister.
"Kay Rene is not a Reed," the woman insisted. "DeeAnn is a Reed."
Bobby Reed was stunned, learning later that rumors of a mix-up had been around for years. In early February, Shafer learned the truth in a telephone call from her sister, Juanita.
"Do you remember those rumors of being switched at birth?" she asked, and went on to provide the update.
"Does this mean I'm not invited to the family reunion?" Shafer joked.
Qualls, Bobby Reed and one of their sisters met Shafer at a Kennewick, Wash., clinic last month for DNA testing. A week later, Qualls got the results, learning her likely probability of being related to her brother and sister was zero.
"I cried," she said. "I wanted to be a Reed — my life wasn't my life."
Shafer's DNA report said she had 99.9 percent of being related to Bobby and Dorothy Reed. Now living in Richland, Wash., Shafer said the report only confirmed what she knew after meeting Qualls.
"After seeing Kay Rene, I went home and told my husband, I don't know why she's doing the DNA testing," she said. "I was shocked — she looked just like my sister's twin."
Pioneer Memorial Hospital offered to pay for counseling, but both women declined.
The two have become friends and celebrated their May 3 birthday together. Recently, Qualls introduced Shafer to her work colleagues, calling her "my swister."
"I'm trying to move forward at look at the positive," Shafer said. "You can't look back. It just drives you crazy."
That's CRAZY!!!!
~Brian
that would suck. :lol:
"I was born a poor black child........"-Steve Martin, The Jerk.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on May 12, 2009, 11:19:36 AM
"I was born a poor black child........"-Steve Martin, The Jerk.
:lol:
~Brian
That movie is awesome :clap:
One of my favorite movies....
~Brian
http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/05/baiting-nigerian-scammers-for-fun-not-so-much-for-profit.ars
Baiting Nigerian scammers for fun (not so much for profit)
Who are scam baiters, and why do they bother trying to give scammers the runaround? Ars explores the flourishing communities of scam baiters who help each other do everything they can to waste scammers' time, including enticing them to get ridiculous tattoos and sending them on treks across Africa for nonexistent cash.
When your hobby is baiting 419 scammers (also known as Nigerian scammers or advance-fee fraudsters), a death threat isn't cause for concern—it's a trophy worth bragging about to your friends.
Scam baiters are the vigilante enforcers who come together to waste hours, weeks, or months of 419 scammers' lives for nothing more than the satisfaction of knowing that they are distracting them from real victims. Though the world of 419 scams has existed since long before the Internet, people continue to fall for scammers in droves—certainly, scammers are making millions of dollars every year by promising money, goods, and romance that they never deliver on. That's part of why scam baiting has actually become a somewhat popular pastime online, with thousands of users flocking to scam baiting forums to share stories and ideas on how to string along more scammers. And hey, why not? Most of us end up spending too much time screwing around on the Internet anyway—these folks just use that time to make scammers miserable.
But when you hear stories like this, it makes you wonder. "I get death threats on regular basis," a student who goes by -C- told Ars. "Death threats are not uncommon and are actually considered achievements: they are a testament to the fact that the baiter managed to annoy his/her scammer nicely."
Why would you want to start baiting scammers?
When the scammer sends you a fake passport that looks like it was made by a blind hamster with a piece of charcoal in ten seconds, you praise it and say it really helps you to build trust.Who are these people? As it turns out, the scam-baiter demographic is more diverse than one might think, though much of the reasoning for participating is the same. "My initial reason for baiting was to give myself an outlet for the practical jokes that I am 'too old' to play on my dog/little sister/friends/neighbor's cat," a 32-year-old baiter who goes by blah told Ars. "But after I joined 419eater, I realized that we actually do make an impact on the entire scamming business by running interference and wasting these scammer's time."
Other scam baiters we spoke to (all of which wished to remain anonymous for their own safety) echoed this sentiment, many relaying feelings of boredom or frustration with scammers. They also had heard humorous stories from experienced baiters and wanted to get involved. And, of course, there's always those who simply do it because they feel like it's payback. "I'm an absolute stickler for justice and hate any form of abuse," a UK production company owner who goes by Paddy told Ars.
The things baiters do to scammers range from "boring," menial tasks like seeding false information or questionable wording into the scamming community (tasks that don't necessarily bring the glory, but are equally necessary) to sending scammers on full-on safaris across Africa—or sometimes, the globe—in search of money that will never come. The baiters we spoke with said that they spend anywhere from a an hour per day (usually arranged around other things, like TV or just casual Internet surfing) to a full 8 to 10 hours per day, especially if they are working on a collaborative safari. We'll get to that in a minute.
Some of the more menial tasks involve posing as experienced scammers trying to befriend newbies in order to give them sage advice. "For example, scammers like idioms, but many of their native idioms are different to those of English language and they may not know that many from the latter. Teach them a new one: tell them that 'take this offer of mine with a huge grain of salt' means 'this is the chance of your life time and I am very serious about this,'" -C- says.
-C- describes another way of "de-educating" scammers: giving feedback on their fake documents in order to make them look less realistic. -C- explains: "When the scammer sends you a fake passport that looks like it was made by a blind hamster with a piece of charcoal in ten seconds, you praise it and say it really helps you to build trust. Then, hope he is encouraged by this to send it to real victims too, who on the other hand will hopefully recognize it's a fake."
We're going on a surfin' safari
Every minute the scammer I'm communicating with is spending on me is a minute he is not scamming a real potential victim.On the more extreme end of the scale, the tales from baiters are both horrifying and hilarious, depending on where your sympathies lie (and how much you enjoy tales of lengthy snipe hunts). 28-year-old manny relayed a story wherein he and several other baiters talked a scammer into traveling from Port Harcourt, Nigeria to Darfur to pick up a nonexistent $500,000. The 3,000-mile roundtrip got the scammer stranded for two weeks before he managed to make it home. Craig, a professional airline pilot, said that he and three other baiters got a scammer to travel from Lagos, Nigeria to Paga, Ghana—a total of 3,800 miles.
blah had fun with a scammer and airport security in London, resulting in his being detained for several hours. "He was waiting for me to arrive on a flight that I wasn't actually on. I told him to show up with a black backpack and hold it very very close to his chest (that's how I would know that it was him). Airport security didn't find it amusing, apparently, and thought he was acting suspicious," blah said. "My plane fictitiously arrived after he had been detained and I ended up chewing the scammer out for being so inconsiderate as to get detained and leave me waiting for an hour until I finally just hailed a cab and went to my hotel. When airport security finally released him, he went and waited in the lobby-bar of the hotel for four additional hours while I 'freshened-up' in my room."
Do ethics apply to this game?
There are many other stories easily found online—ones that none of our baiters were willing to fess up to—about having scammers get tattoos saying ridiculous things, or sending them into truly dangerous regions of Africa that have almost gotten them killed. The general consensus among the baiters we spoke to, however, was that they feel even the most dangerous of safaris is payback for all the scammers do. "The scammer makes the decision to put themselves in harm's way; if something happens to them, so be it. Most of them would have no problem with you dying if it meant that they would make a dollar," said manny. "One baiter's character recently told the scammer that he had a choice between sending the scammer $5,000 or using the same money to pay for his baby daughter's cancer treatment—I think you can guess which option the scammer chose."
Craig agreed. "Making a lad sweat it out in Niger, 100° heats, with the need to drink two gallons of water a day or die, is petty punishment for their crimes," he said. "A lad returning from a long journey, financially worse off, demoralized completely, may lose interest in scamming."
That's really the end goal—to keep the scammers' attention directed away from real victims and hopefully frustrate them to the point of quitting. "Every minute the scammer I'm communicating with is spending on me is a minute he is not scamming a real potential victim," manny told Ars.
Others agreed wholeheartedly. "Whether he is wandering through the desert hundreds of miles from home, or making yet another fruitless trip to the Moneygram office, that's all time he is not behind a computer scamming someone's elderly parents." Many of the baiters also spend time working with other sites to warn victims and help educate people about 419 scams (Paddy told me he spends a lot of time warning victims at scamwarners.com, for example). "I love to hear is someone ripping up a fake check they just received from the scammer and/or telling me that we just saved them their life's savings."
^^^^BAD ASS^^^^
I wanna play!!!!!
:lol:
~Brian
Lions Smith: 'We will definitely make the playoff's'
On his personal blog, Smith34.com, Detroit Lions running back Kevin Smith(notes) predicted, no wait, promised the Lions will make the NFL Playoffs in 2009. It makes you wonder, did he watch the video tape?
"I won't make a prediction about how many games we're going to win, but I will say this: We will definitely make the playoffs this season.
"Believe it or not we weren't far off last year. Almost every game we could have won, we were one play or one player short. Except for Tennessee on Thanksgiving, they just came out and beat us to sleep. They manhandled us, but nobody else did.''
The Lions weren't far off? They were 0-16.
Muhahahahaha!!!!!!
~Brian
Crack can do that to someone......
False Hopes. :lol:
So Pealer is the reason the Lions went 0-16!
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on May 13, 2009, 12:13:39 PM
So Pealer is the reason the Lions went 0-16!
:lol:
~Brian
:bird: :lol:
Was going to post. Love the idea of baiting scammers.
We should totally do that....
We need a thread on this if we do.
We could all act as each others attorney's investors, etc..
That would be so bad ass.
~Brian
Pentagon official charged with plotting to spy for China
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A Pentagon official has been charged with conspiracy to communicate classified information to a person he believed represented China's government, according to a criminal complaint unsealed Wednesday.
James Wilbur Fondren Jr., 62, worked as the deputy director for the Washington liaison office for U.S. Pacific Command, according to the complaint unsealed in the Eastern District of Virginia.
He turned himself in to federal agents Wednesday morning, the Department of Justice said.
Fondren is accused of involvement in an espionage conspiracy from November 2004 until February 2008. He has been on administrative leave with pay since mid-February of last year.
"These charges are the result of the investigative efforts of the FBI's Washington Field Office, with the invaluable assistance of the Air Force Office of Special Investigations," said Arthur Cummings of the FBI's National Security Branch.
"Espionage is a profoundly serious crime, and the FBI will continue to work with our law enforcement and intelligence community partners to ensure the protection of our nation's most sensitive information."
I hope they fry this douche!!!!
"Me so holy...oh so holy...oh oh, so holy, me love you long time!!"
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/05/13/moos.me.so.holy.cnn
:rofl:
Quote from: Colorado700R on May 13, 2009, 12:55:50 PM
Pentagon official charged with plotting to spy for China
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A Pentagon official has been charged with conspiracy to communicate classified information to a person he believed represented China's government, according to a criminal complaint unsealed Wednesday.
James Wilbur Fondren Jr., 62, worked as the deputy director for the Washington liaison office for U.S. Pacific Command, according to the complaint unsealed in the Eastern District of Virginia.
He turned himself in to federal agents Wednesday morning, the Department of Justice said.
Fondren is accused of involvement in an espionage conspiracy from November 2004 until February 2008. He has been on administrative leave with pay since mid-February of last year.
"These charges are the result of the investigative efforts of the FBI's Washington Field Office, with the invaluable assistance of the Air Force Office of Special Investigations," said Arthur Cummings of the FBI's National Security Branch.
"Espionage is a profoundly serious crime, and the FBI will continue to work with our law enforcement and intelligence community partners to ensure the protection of our nation's most sensitive information."
I hope they fry this douche!!!!
Wait....
He's been under the gun since 2004 and still employed all this time?
WTF?
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on May 13, 2009, 12:40:04 PM
We should totally do that....
We need a thread on this if we do.
We could all act as each others attorney's investors, etc..
That would be so bad ass.
~Brian
I'm in! :thumbs:
Fish found in boy's penis
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,,24353334-5012895,00.html
WTF is all I jhave to say!!!
The patient was admitted to hospital with complaints of pain, dribbling urine and acute urinary retention spanning a 24-hour period. According to the boy, the fish slipped into his penis while he was cleaning his aquarium at home.
Professor Vezhaventhan and Professor Jeyaraman, who treated the boy and later wrote a paper on the case, explained: "While he was cleaning the fish tank in his house, he was holding a fish in his hand and went to the toilet for passing urine. When he was passing urine, the fish slipped from his hand and entered his urethra and then he developed all these symptoms."
After detecting the fish in the boy's bladder, Vezhaventhan and Jeyaraman used a technique known as cystourethroscopy to insert a special set of forceps down the patient's penis. Unfortunately, the fish was just too slippery to grip, so they resorted to using a rigid ureteroscope with a tool attached that is normally used for removing bladder stones.
The fish the urologists removed, which Practical Fishkeeping believes to be a small member of the Betta genus, measured 2cm long and 1.5cm wide.
He was later admitted into counseling to help him overcome any trauma.
He was considered a boy only becuase of his penis size, the victim, 36 year old Brian Sheppard from Arkansas stated "Although the pain was dreadful, the increased size from that minnow was a much needed temperary ego boost"
:lol:
sweet mother of jeebus! WTF!
OH MY GERD........ a penis dwelling fish. Where can I sign up to get one?! :rofl:
Quote from: kdanderson5 on May 18, 2009, 03:05:07 PM
OH MY GERD........ a penis dwelling fish. Where can I sign up to get one?! :rofl:
PM Kyle. ;) :rofl:
Quote from: Colorado700R on May 18, 2009, 01:12:54 PM
He was considered a boy only becuase of his penis size, the victim, 36 year old Brian Sheppard from Arkansas stated "Although the pain was dreadful, the increased size from that minnow was a much needed temperary ego boost"
:lol:
:owned:
WTH? Busted. That has to be a strain on a relationship.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520524,00.html?test=latestnews
A Texas mother of twins got the shock of her life when doctors revealed that her 11-month-old boys do not have the same father.
..."Out of all people in America and of all people in the world, it had to happen to me, she told myfoxdfw.com. "I'm very shocked."...
Heard about that this morning on the radio.
Chick sleeping around. 2 eggs in the womb. one dude fathered one. Another dude fathered the other.
That's gotta suck! :lol:
Awesome! DOuble the child support Nucca! :rofl:
Not quite the news. :lol:
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/texas_constructs_u_s_border_wall?utm_source=a-section
Texas Constructs U.S. Border Wall To Keep Out Unwanted Americans
Sad..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090521/ap_on_re_us/us_playground_body
Police: Mom of buried NM boy says she killed him
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. – Police said Thursday that the mother of a 3-year-old boy found buried at a playground told investigators she suffocated him, had second thoughts and resuscitated him, then changed her mind and suffocated him again.
Police Chief Ray Schultz said Tiffany Toribio, 23, told officers that she and her son, Tyruss "Ty" Toribio, were in Alvarado Park before dawn on May 13 and that she suffocated him while he was asleep.
She told detectives she had second thoughts and performed CPR on the boy, reviving him, but again reconsidered and placed her hand over his nose and mouth until he suffocated, Schultz said. She said she waited a few minutes before burying him in the playground, the chief said.
Ty's body was found Friday by a mother who saw his black tennis shoe sticking out of the sand. Police released an artist's rendering of the boy's image on Tuesday, which led to tips about Toribio from family members and others, Schultz said.
Police picked up Toribio after she called them late Wednesday saying she had left home and was walking to the police station to turn herself in, the chief said. At first she denied being Tiffany Toribio, but officers found her identification and she acknowledged who she was, he said.
Neither the district attorney's office nor police knew if Toribio had an attorney, but she would have to have representation by her Friday arraignment.
Schultz called it "somber day" in Albuquerque.
"He was a very special child and that's what makes this case so hard for everybody within the Albuquerque Police Department that's worked on it for the last six days," he said.
Schultz described Toribio as a transient who was kicked out of her mother's home on May 7 because of the way she treated her son. A few days later she was kicked out of a friend's house for the same reason, he said.
Toribio had no history of substance or alcohol abuse and only a traffic citation on her record.
"What makes this story especially sad was when asked the reason why she took Ty's life, Tiffany said that she did not want him to grow up with no one caring about him the same way that she had grown up with no one caring about her," Schultz said.
Schultz said Toribio was being held at the Bernalillo County jail under close observation because she had attempted suicide. He did not provide details about the suicide attempt.
At the playground — filled now with flowers, plaques and candles — about a dozen people gathered, some part of the regular vigil held there since last week and others who came down after hearing of the arrest on the TV news.
"We named him 'Baby Angel' and it's important now that we know his real name," said Sarah Sandoval, who lives nearby. "Now, his mother will find out this baby has a lot of people who love him and will do anything for a child."
Gee, thanks for the uplifting story. lol
What is wrong with people? Killed him, revived him, thought about it then killed him again. Ever hear of adoption? I bet this woman gets off light too.
Quote from: disco on May 21, 2009, 01:25:09 PM
Gee, thanks for the uplifting story. lol
What is wrong with people? Killed him, revived him, thought about it then killed him again. Ever hear of adoption? I bet this woman gets off light too.
no doubt Kranall..friggin buzzkiller! :lol:
That is messed up right there.
Anybody see the police beat down video on the news this morning? Dude runs over cop, so they chase him down, flip him over, he gets thrown from the car, and they continue to beat his lifeless body. Nice! :lol:
That's a well deserved beat down in my book. :lol:
Quote from: disco on May 21, 2009, 01:41:03 PM
That's a well deserved beat down in my book. :lol:
Agreed 8)
but terrible to watch really. You see his body thrown from the car 20 ft up, then hit the ground, then 8 cops fly in and start whooping his half-dead ass. :lol:
Quote from: Krandall on May 19, 2009, 07:34:29 AM
Heard about that this morning on the radio.
Chick sleeping around. 2 eggs in the womb. one dude fathered one. Another dude fathered the other.
That's gotta suck! :lol:
No way!
What are the odds on that shit?
~Brian
freakin badass!
http://www.latimes.com/features/lifestyle/la-ig-beards22-pictures,0,3383025.photogallery?index=1
Quote from: Krandall on May 22, 2009, 03:35:57 PM
freakin badass!
http://www.latimes.com/features/lifestyle/la-ig-beards22-pictures,0,3383025.photogallery?index=1
The fourth member of ZZ Top!
~Brian
Aiken's Lambert Rant: Claymate Turns To Clayhate
Posted Fri May 22, 2009 11:03am PDT by Lyndsey Parker in Reality Rocks
Clay Aiken and Adam Lambert's names have been linked quite a bit in the media lately--not just because of rumors (reported in the Chicago Sun-Times last week) that Clay actually wanted to record a duet with Adam, but because after Adam's shocking second-place finish on American Idol this week, many Lambert supporters have predicted that Adam will follow in Clay's footsteps and ultimately be more successful than the singer who actually won this year, Kris Allen.
Now that it's all over, and for the record.... I couldn't be happier about the way AI ended this year. I only turn the show on once a season, and only to see what the set looks like each year. This year, I happened to turn it during the minute that Adam Lambert was singing 'Ring of Fire' and, at that moment, thought my ears would bleed. Contrived, awful, and slightly frightening! I wasn't really a fan and found myself surprised whenever folks told me that they liked him. Granted, I never saw another performance (and many folks who I trust said that he was great) but I can't imagine I would have enjoyed it. Just not my cup of tea at all. To each his own. I never saw Kris sing on the show, but whether he was good or not is really relative. It's usually a matter of taste, right? But Idol is not always a matter of musical taste only. It's about the person you like. From what little I saw, Kris seemed likable. (That's not to say that Adam isn't just as likable as anyone.. maybe more so... I don't know) When Ruben and I were standing next to each other every night (many years ago) you had two equally talented, equally unlikely, equally unpolished contestants.... so it really was a matter of taste as to who was voted for. While some may argue that one of us was hyped more than the other, I don't feel that was the case. However, this year, there was an obvious bias. Not even having watched the show, I can tell you that I was WELL aware of the bias from the judges as to who should win. In my opinion, that is awfully unattractive. I don't think I am alone."
ow! And...MEOW!
Surely some will jump to the conclusion that Clay's bitter post was spurned by his un-amicable split with BMG and 19 Entertainment, or by 19's rumored attempts to prevent Clay from collaborating with Adam. And it does seem that if there's any "feud" going on here, it's between Clay and the Idol machine, not Clay and Adam himself.
The blog continues:
"In my opinion, it all often comes down to that last night of voting. Until the finale, folks are voting for the contestant that they want to see continue. But, I believe that on that last night, the dynamic changes. No longer forced to choose one person that they want to see win, the audience can effectively vote AGAINST the person that they don't want to see win. In the case of season two this might have happened. There may have been some folks who voted for myself or Ruben because they didn't like the other of us. I was the nerdy little girly boy who some didn't want to see win, so they may have voted for Ruben. I don't know. .. But again, I feel that Ruben and I were fairly matched. We both had our detractors and negatives, but I feel we were both very worthy of being on that stage in that moment, and either of us would have been worthy of winning. The show was different then, and folks made it in seasons 1-3 because they were 'real' people who happened to sing/entertain well. But, somewhere along the way, AI stopped being about real people.
In a battle between David and Goliath, my money is on David!
I think many voters got sick of being 'told who to vote for'. I think many were turned off by the blatant favoritism shown towards one contestant. Therefore, on that last night, they used their votes against a contestant that they were tired of hearing about and for the contestant who had been written off. And, at the same time, I think they voted AGAINST an American Idol that has, for four years now, been more about the slick productions and polished contestants than it has been about finding the raw talent that it did in its first three seasons.
Those votes for Kris were also votes to return the show to its roots of finding 'real' contestants with undiscovered talent and giving them the chance to grow and shine. They were votes that said 'we're tired of seeing contestants who already seem to know it all'.
Will American Idol choose to listen to the resounding and clarion call that those voters gave them?.... 'Enough with the pretention. More Rubens, more Clays, more Fantasias and Tamyras and Kellys please.' My faith has always been in the voters. I think they have gotten it right every year (mine included). It's now up to American Idol to decide if it will finally REALLY listen to the folks that keep it on the air."
Hmmm...but you know, maybe Clay's motives aren't so sinister after all. Maybe (despite his claim that he never saw Kris perform on the show, which seems odd) he just prefers Kris Allen's music--which, like Clay's, is pretty safe, sweet, and mellow. However, if Clay WAS trying to record a duet with Adam, this blog sure isn't going to help his chances. Maybe he should try to collaborate with Kris instead?
Gee, I wonder why? Lambert may be moving in on the diva........They're both queer as can be.
~Brian
who is queer?
the singer(s)
or people who watch that crap? ???
took me halfway thru the article to figure out who these people were, and what AI means?
My wife loves the show.
I watch the first couple of weeks to see all of the bad apples......The ones that can't sing that THINK they can sing. That stuff is hilarious!!!
I just thought the article was funny since Clay Aiken (homo) didn't like this Lambert kid (which is FLAMING!!!!!).
~Brian
flamer vs flamer. I see a new reality show. :lol:
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on May 25, 2009, 10:01:06 AM
flamer vs flamer. I see a new reality show. :lol:
Coming soon to LOGO!
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on May 25, 2009, 10:02:18 AM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on May 25, 2009, 10:01:06 AM
flamer vs flamer. I see a new reality show. :lol:
Coming soon to LOGO!
:lol:
~Brian
Krandall's Tivo already programmed. :thumbs:
LOL I watched the show with my wife sometimes. That Lambert kid got to sing live with KISS in full make up. Pretty f**king killer. But still....totally flaming. :lol:
Yeah I watched it too.
Gene Simmons is a bad ass.
~Brian
:lol:
http://perens.com/works/articles/Burglar/
Stupid Burglar Nabbed by Backup Program
The following article was included in the email newsletter distributed to constituents by Berkeley City Council Member Susan Wengraf. It's signed by a Berkeley Police officer - Bruce
As you may already know, some auto burglars who prowl Northeast Berkeley are prolific; one auto burglar may burglarize several cars in one night. Apprehending one of these prolific individuals can obviously have an impact in reducing the number of auto burglaries in an area affected by property crime, like Northeast Berkeley. With that in mind, I thought you might be interested in hearing about an arrest our Property Crimes Detective Division made recently.
On May 5th, at about 6:00 p.m., one of our fellow community members parked his car near the corner of Hearst Avenue and Euclid Avenue. Unknowingly, he left his laptop bag on the back seat of his car. Sometime before 8:00 p.m., someone smashed the car window and stole the laptop from the rear seat. The victim reported the auto burglary but there were no significant investigative leads in the case. This is where the story gets really interesting. The victim had a back-up program installed on his laptop. The burglar proceeded to take photographs of himself with the computer's built-in camera; those photographs were eventually up-loaded to the internet based storage location. The victim discovered the photographs of the suspect and passed them along to Detective Sergeant Ed Spiller and Detective Earl Emelson. The Detectives recognized the suspect, named Vega, who had just been released from jail at the start of the year.
The Detectives closely examined the photographs and noticed that Vega appeared to be sitting in a motel room when he snapped the pictures with the computer's camera. Sgt. Spiller, theorizing that the victim's computer had accessed the internet thorough the motel's wireless internet system, began work to identify the I.P. address utilized by the victim's computer in hopes that it would lead them to the motel where Vega was staying. Not content to wait for the I.P. address information to become available, Sgt. Spiller's Detectives decided to expand their search to Oakland motels. While checking motels on MacArthur Blvd., Det. Emelson spotted Vega getting into a car in a motel parking lot. The Detectives stopped Vega and arrested him for possession of the stolen laptop. During the investigation, the Detectives located additional stolen property (from other auto burglaries) inside Vega's car and in his motel room. Vega's girlfriend, Maria Reynoso of Berkeley, was also arrested during the investigation at the motel.
Officer Casimiro Pierantoni #96
Area Coordinator-Area 1
Community Services Bureau
Berkeley Police Department
awesome!!!!
OKLAHOMA CITY – Confronted by two holdup men, pharmacist Jerome Ersland pulled a gun, shot one of them in the head and chased the other away. Then, in a scene recorded by the drugstore's security camera, he went behind the counter, got another gun, and pumped five more bullets into the wounded teenager as he lay on the floor.
Now Ersland has been charged with first-degree murder in a case that has stirred a furious debate over vigilante justice and self-defense and turned the pharmacist into something of a folk hero.
Ersland, 57, is free on $100,000 bail thanks to an anonymous donor. He has won praise from the pharmacy's owner, received an outpouring of cards, letters and checks from supporters and become the darling of conservative talk radio.
"His adrenaline was going. You're just thinking of survival," said John Paul Hernandez, 60, a retired Defense Department employee who grew up in the neighborhood. "All it was is defending your employee, business and livelihood. If I was in that position and that was me, I probably would have done the same thing."
District Attorney David Prater said Ersland was justified in shooting 16-year-old Antwun Parker once in the head, but not in firing the additional shots into his belly. The prosecutor said the teenager was unconscious, unarmed, lying on his back and posing no threat when Ersland fired what the medical examiner said were the fatal shots.
But many of those who have seen the video of the May 19 robbery attempt at Reliable Discount Pharmacy have concluded the teenager in the ski mask got what he deserved.
Mark Shannon, who runs a conservative talk show on Oklahoma City's KTOK, said callers have jammed his lines this week in support of Ersland, who wears a back brace on the job and told reporters that he is a disabled veteran of the Gulf War.
"There is no gray area," Shannon said. One caller "said he should have put all the shots in the head."
Don Spencer, a 49-year-old National Rifle Association member who lives in the small town of Meridian, 40 miles north of Oklahoma City, said the pharmacist did the right thing: "You shoot more than enough to make sure the threat has been removed."
Barbara Bergman, past president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers and a professor at the University of New Mexico School of Law, likened the public reaction to that of the case of Bernard Goetz, the New Yorker who shot four teenagers he said were trying to rob him when they asked for $5 on a subway in 1984.
Goetz was cleared of attempted murder and assault but convicted of illegal gun possession and served 8 1/2 months in jail.
Bergman said those who claim they used deadly force in self-defense have to show they were "in reasonable fear of serious bodily injury."
The pharmacy is in a crime-ridden section of south Oklahoma City and had been robbed before.
The video shows two men bursting in, one of them pointing a gun at Ersland and two women working with the druggist behind the counter. Ersland fires a pistol, driving the gunman from the store and hitting Parker in the head as he puts on a ski mask.
Ersland chases the second man outside, then goes back inside, walks behind the counter with his back to Parker, gets a second handgun and opens fire.
Irven Box, Ersland's attorney, noted the outpouring of support for the pharmacist, including $2,000 in donations, and said: "I feel very good 12 people would not determine he committed murder in the first degree."
Under Oklahoma's "Make My Day Law" — passed in the late 1980s and named for one of Clint Eastwood's most famous movie lines — people can use deadly force when they feel threatened by an intruder inside their homes. In 2006, Oklahoma's "Stand Your Ground Law" extended that to anywhere a citizen has the right to be, such as a car or office.
"It's a 'Make-My-Day' case," Box said. "This guy came in, your money or your life. Mr. Ersland said, `You're not taking my life.'" The gunman "forfeited his life."
Box said that another person might have reacted differently, but he asked: "When do you turn off that adrenaline switch? When do you think you're safe? I think that's going to be the ultimate issue."
If convicted, Ersland could be sentenced to life in prison with or without parole, or receive the death penalty.
The second suspect in the holdup, a 14-year-old boy, was arrested Thursday and faces attempted armed robbery charges.
Ersland is white and the two suspects were black. Anthony Douglas, president of the Oklahoma chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, called a news conference to praise the district attorney for bringing the murder charge. But he said the organization has taken no position on Ersland's guilt or innocence.
"We want the system to do its job," Douglas said.
Parker's parents also expressed relief that Ersland faces a criminal charge.
"He didn't have to shoot my baby like that," Parker's mother, Cleta Jennings, told TV station KOCO.
Well your "baby" was a man standing before another man threatening his life. Your "baby" got what he deserved!!!!
~Brian
Love that he got bail from an anonymous donor. i think once somebody threatens your life, for the most part, they lose a few human rights. I am a pretty mellow guy, but I might be inclined to pump him full of lead, especially if thoughts of my children having no father pop into my head at the moment. Not sure what i would do. I side with the pharmacist. (surprised?) Gotta love yo' dealer. :lol:
Same debate as those cops that beat the $hit out of the idiot who ran an officer over then wrecked and got thrown from the car. Kick his ass seabass! :lol:
http://www.food2.com/blog/2009/06/02/coldstone-breakthrough-ice-cream-that-transforms-into-pudding
(really have to go to the site to see the pics :) )
Coldstone Breakthrough: Ice Cream That Transforms Into Pudding
Wow -- is this the frozen confectionary breakthrough of the year? The decade? Coldstone is about to release ice cream that doesn't melt. No, this sweet wonder simply transforms into JELL-O pudding...
Pictured: Butterscotch Velvet Cone
Coldstone Tastemaster (how do we apply for this job?), Ray Karam, has been working with JELL-O pudding in rigorous taste tests to create a sweet frozen treat that "...has a mouth feel much like a velvety mousse."
When your bowl of freshly-scooped Coldstone sits at room temperature for a while, an amazing transformation occurs. The ice cream skips melting and turns into pudding instead (or so the legend goes).
Coldstone is releasing four flavors that will only be available for a limited time -- in locations from June 3rd until July 28th (SO DON'T DROP THE BALL -- get over there!). Find your closest location here.
Pictured: Chocolate-y Goodness Cone
To compliment the cutting-edge ice cream, Coldstone also has two new creations to showcase the flavors:
Butterscotch Velvet -- Butterscotch JELL-O Pudding Ice Cream mixed with Butterfinger, Reese's Peanut Butter Cup and Caramel.
Chocolatel-y Goodness -- Chocolate JELL-O Pudding Ice Cream mixed with Peanut Butter, Caramel and Fudge.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i4JOyK2cvOGaIGLssoUpOWHmF2IQD98HL4QO0
Canada's 'Prince of Pot' at war with US drug war
VANCOUVER, British Columbia (AP) — Psychedelic rock booms through The Vapour Lounge. In the store, young and some not-so-young people smoke pot through a variety of devices. And owner Marc Emery stands in the middle of it all, proclaiming his goal of defeating the U.S. war on drugs.
Known as the Prince of Pot, Emery has sold millions of marijuana seeds around the world by mail over the past decade. In doing so, he has drawn the attention of U.S. drug officials, who want him extradited to Seattle. Emery has agreed to plead guilty in Seattle to one count of marijuana distribution in exchange for dismissal of all other counts, and the U.S. District Attorney is pressing for a sentence of five to eight years in a U.S. prison.
The case is the latest twist in Emery's two-decade-long fight against the prohibition of marijuana in North America. To his supporters, he is a brave crusader for the use and sale of a drug with both recreational and medicinal value. To drug officials, he is a criminal and the biggest purveyor of marijuana from Canada into the United States.
Emery sits "right smack in the middle" of the North American debate over marijuana prohibition, said Allen St. Pierre of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws in Washington, D.C. St. Pierre predicted that Emery's trial would "kick-start it all again."
But drug officials say they are simply going after one of the world's top 50 drug traffickers. U.S. authorities claim Emery's seeds have grown $2.2 billion worth of pot.
"We've been very clear it had nothing to do with Mr. Emery's political stand," said Emily Langlie of the U.S. District Attorney's Office in Seattle.
Emery himself, a two-time candidate for mayor of Vancouver who has never shied away from publicity, seems almost gleeful about the legal saga. He calls it the greatest platform he could have in his crusade, and his Facebook page notes that these days he hums the chorus from Canadian musician Baron Longfellow's "I'm Going to Need a Miracle Tonight". He predicted he will be in a U.S. jail by August, and will then ask supporters to push for his transfer to a Canadian jail.
"I do have millions of supporters in the U.S. and Canada," he said, unburdened by false modesty. "It's my job as leader of the cannabis culture to thwart the United States government."
___
Emery, 51, was a teen when he started selling banned pro-marijuana literature in Vancouver. He did the same in London, Ontario, including on the steps of a police station, hoping to be arrested and have his day in court. Returning to Vancouver in 1994, he set out to start a "hemp revolution business," and opened a store called Hemp B.C. in the firebombed shell of a Communist bookshop in what is now known as Pot Block.
He sold marijuana seeds and used the money to fund his campaign against pot prohibition.
"It rapidly expedited cash flow. No one else in North America was doing it," he said.
Emery took in up to $2.6 million in seed sales per year. He claims to have sold more than four million seeds, three-quarters of those to customers in the U.S.
He says he has been arrested 21 times and jailed 17 times. In 2004, he was convicted in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan for passing a joint, and spent three months behind bars.
In Vancouver, however, he says police have for years chosen to ignore his business. He claims federal Canadian officials have even suggested people contact him to buy seeds for medical marijuana. Furthermore, Emery says, he has paid almost $500,000 in Canadian income tax since 1999. He says his seed sales funded half the activities of the pro-marijuana movement in Canada between 1995 and 2005, and up to 10 percent of the U.S. movement.
The marijuana debate is still wending its way through communities and courts in the United States. Federal law prohibits the possession of marijuana, even for medicinal purposes. However, the states have different laws and penalties.
In Canada, cultivation is illegal except for medical use, and a campaign to legalize it is under way nationwide.
However, Prime Minister Stephen Harper takes a tough stance and wants mandatory minimum jail sentences for dealers and growers. And Emery is having trouble getting the City of Vancouver to re-licence his stores, which include The Vapour Lounge, a cafe, a convenience store and the studios for Pot TV. Vancouver is suffering a string of killings over cocaine from Mexico, sometimes bartered for homegrown marijuana.
___
Emery's latest brush with the law began on July 29, 2005, when Canadian and American drug enforcement officers nabbed him along with two employees of Emery Seeds — Michelle Rainey and Gregory Keith Williams.
Emery was arrested in Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia, and was returned to Canada's West Coast by U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration agents. Police raided Emery's Vancouver store, which doubles as the headquarters for the British Columbia Marijuana Party he leads.
It was the culmination of an 18-month investigation by American authorities. The DEA said at the time that Emery's business and his Cannabis Culture magazine generated $5 million a year to bolster his trafficking efforts.
"He's a drug trafficker, plain and simple," said the DEA's Rodney Benson in 2006. "Marc Emery is a significant threat to the United States."
The two employees have since pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court in Seattle to conspiracy to manufacture marijuana, law enforcement officials say. They have entered into a plea agreement and will be sentenced on July 17. They faced 10 years to life in prison, but prosecutors agreed to recommend two years' probation, Emery said.
According to a DEA statement, Rainey said in her plea that she sent seeds and growing instructions to customers at Emery's instruction. She said 75 percent of the customers were in the U.S.
Williams said he handled the phone orders and the wire transfer information, and also sold seeds directly to store customers. On numerous occasions in 2004, Williams sold seeds to an undercover agent, the DEA release said.
Jason Gratl of the B.C. Civil Liberties Association said Rainey and Williams were arrested to leverage Emery into surrender, and the charges against him could have disguised an ulterior motive.
"It appears the proceedings were initiated to quell certain quarters of the marijuana movement on both sides of the border," Gratl said.
Emery said he was willing to die in a U.S. jail for his cause.
"Dying as a victim of the state's cruelty would really help a person like me. The way you die is very important," he said. "Martin Luther King was killed and that's very important to his legacy."
His wife, Jodie, a former provincial Green Party candidate, snorted at this.
"I hate when he talks like that," she interjected. "I think it would be better if he continued the work he does."
Emery smiled, unrepentant.
"I had a very good reason for selling those seeds," he said. "I wanted to defeat the U.S. war on drugs."
David Carradine from "KungFu" was found dead in Thailand today. Apparently, he hung himself.
Bad grasshopper. :lol:
No details, it was on public radio a second ago. :lol:
New Buddhist motto...."Do no harm, but feel free to hang yourself"
:rofl:
Quote from: Colorado700R on June 04, 2009, 03:06:41 PM
New Buddhist motto...."Do no harm, but feel free to hang yourself"
:rofl:
Post of the day! :lol:
"the noose is mightier than the gun" :lol:
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on June 04, 2009, 03:32:42 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on June 04, 2009, 03:06:41 PM
New Buddhist motto...."Do no harm, but feel free to hang yourself"
:rofl:
Post of the day! :lol:
"the noose is mightier than the gun" :lol:
so this is now the "breaking noose thread"
Quote from: dragonz on June 04, 2009, 11:04:10 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on June 04, 2009, 03:32:42 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on June 04, 2009, 03:06:41 PM
New Buddhist motto...."Do no harm, but feel free to hang yourself"
:rofl:
Post of the day! :lol:
"the noose is mightier than the gun" :lol:
so this is now the "breaking noose thread"
Hmm, this all happened in Thailand ???
I think the poor bastard had a post sexual adam's apple discovery :rofl:
This is sad :( :( :(
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090605/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/brazil_plane
French, Brazilians still on hunt for downed Airbus
PARIS – French and Brazilian search teams have found no debris confirmed to have come from the Airbus A330 that vanished over the Atlantic, officials said Friday.
Confusion broke out after Brazilian officials said Thursday that a helicopter had plucked from the sea an airplane cargo pallet from the Air France flight — only to retract the claim hours later.
France's Transportation Minister, Dominique Bussereau, suggested Friday that searchers were back to square one in the hunt for Flight 447 bound from Rio de Janeiro to Paris, which went down off Brazil late Sunday.
"French authorities have been saying for several days that we have to be extremely prudent," Bussereau told France's RTL radio. "Our planes and naval ships have seen nothing."
A French Defense Ministry official, speaking only on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly on the matter, said French teams "cannot precisely confirm the zone where the plane went down."
Also Friday, Brazil's Air Force was flying designated relatives of victims Friday from Rio de Janeiro to the military's search command post in the northeastern city of Recife so they could tour the operation and ask questions. Recife has a large air force base where debris and any human remains will be brought after being picked up at sea.
The pallet Brazilian officials initially said came from the plane pallet was made of wood, and the plane was not carrying wooden pallets, Brazilian Air Force Gen. Ramon Cardoso told reporters. He did not say where the pallet might have come from.
"So far, nothing from the plane has been recovered," Cardoso said.
Cardoso said a large oil slick spotted by search plane pilots was not from the Airbus, but that another slick of kerosene found may have been from the downed passenger jet.
"The oil was not from the plane because there wasn't oil of that quantity (on the plane) to cause that slick," he said.
Bussereau called the false finding of debris by the Brazilian teams "bad news ... We would have preferred that it had come from the plane and that we had some information," he said.
Bussereau said the search must continue and stressed that the priority was finding the flight recorders. The plane went down with 228 people on board in the world's worst aviation disaster since 2001.
French officials stopped short of criticizing their Brazilian counterparts.
"Brazilian authorities first indeed hoped to have found parts of the plane, then unfortunately, arriving in the area, realized it wasn't the case," said French Foreign Ministry spokesman Eric Chevallier. "Unfortunately that can happen."
French Defense Minister Herve Morin and the Pentagon have said there no signs that terrorism was involved, but Morin declined to rule out the possibility.
From the start of the investigation, "I've said we can't exclude terrorism," Morin told reporters Friday. "We have no element which allows us to corroborate that."
"The inquiry that is taking place has never excluded this thesis," he said.
Brazil's defense minister said the possibility was never considered.
Investigators are looking into whether malfunctions in instruments used to determine airspeed may have led the plane to be traveling at the wrong speed when it encountered turbulence from towering thunderstorms over the Atlantic.
Two aviation industry officials told The Associated Press on Thursday that investigators were studying the possibility that an external probe that measures air pressure may have iced over. The probe feeds data used to calculate air speed and altitude to onboard computers. Another possibility is that sensors inside the aircraft reading the data malfunctioned.
If the instruments were not reporting accurate information, the jet could have been traveling too fast or too slow as it hit turbulence from violent thunderstorms, according to the officials.
Jetliners need to be flying at just the right speed when encountering violent weather, experts say — too fast and they run the risk of breaking apart. Too slow, and they can lose control.
European planemaker Airbus has sent an advisory to all operators of the A330 reminding them of how to handle the plane in conditions similar to those experienced by Flight 447, which was an Airbus A330-200 version.
Airbus spokesman Justin Dubon said the planemaker sent a reminder of A330 operating procedures to airlines late Thursday after the French agency investigating the crash said the doomed flight had faced turbulent weather and inconsistency in the speed readings by different instruments. That meant "the air speed of the aircraft was unclear," Dubon said.
In such circumstances, flight crews should maintain thrust and pitch and — if necessary — level off the plane and start troubleshooting procedures as detailed in operating manuals, Dubon said.
Meteorologists said the Air France jet entered an unusual storm with 100 mph (160 kph) updrafts that acted as a vacuum, sucking water up from the ocean. The moist air rushed up to the plane's high altitude, where it quickly froze in minus-40 degree temperatures. The updrafts also would have created dangerous turbulence.
The jetliner's computer systems ultimately failed, and the plane broke apart likely in midair as it crashed into the Atlantic on a flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris Sunday night.
But investigators will have little to go on until they recover the plane's "black box" flight data and voice recorders, now likely on the ocean floor miles beneath the surface.
:jaw: damn.
I know, talk about a slap to the face. here' they were thinkin they found it all... and now back to looking for the entire plane.
I don't think they will be able to recover the aircraft......It's in 12,000 feet of water minimum.
~Brian
sad.. 228 people :(
The A330 is comparable to the size of Boeing's 777.
Very large aircraft.
~Brian
Maybe you can shed some light on this for me Brian...
how do you lose an aircraft in this day and age? Aren't all fflights tracked via radar? so they should have some sort of last known location? or what makes this so difficult?
Quote from: Krandall on June 05, 2009, 11:21:30 AM
Maybe you can shed some light on this for me Brian...
how do you lose an aircraft in this day and age? Aren't all fflights tracked via radar? so they should have some sort of last known location? or what makes this so difficult?
You are tracked via transponder.....When you ask for permission to taxi to the active, the tower will assign you a transponder number....Cessna 204, taxiway Alpha, hold short runway 7
SQUAWK 2700. At that time you would repeat instructions, and set your transponder to "2700". That will identify you to ground and ATC. This number stays with you....until you change centers (ie-Minneapolis center, Dallas, Memphis) as you fly cross country. ATC will assign you a new number to track you as you change centers. When you are flying in the type of aircraft I fly, you can see it when you get pinged by radar. A yellow light flight flash or get brighter. Now if you CHANGE the transponder frequency, they will loose track of you and you will not be identified. You will be seen, but not identified. If you are highjacked, set transponder to 7500 and when you get pinged, you can be assured the military would be along side of you in minutes.
1200 is used in non-air controlled traffic, as a visual flight rule squawk....you need not not change it unless you are entering controlled airspace, and ATC assignes you a number. You must change it per ATC instruction.
The Airbus A330 is a fly by wire aircraft. No cables to rudders, etc. It's all electronic. It's all computerized, so it has several computers on board to back each one up in a failure. I've never heard of a complete failure. If you do loose power, there is a generator that pops out of the side of the aircraft, and turns an air driven turbine to power the system, so all the bases are covered. ATC can pinpoint the last location of the broadcast of the flight, which will get search and rescue close, but when you're at FL350, and at 500 mph, even at a high rate of descent you're still going to travel 50-100 miles from the last transmission. You can't descend too fast because it would rip the wings off at more than 10,000 feet per minute. When you get to VNE (Velocity NEVER EXCEED) speed, it's VERY dangerous. The aircraft could break apart and I think that's happened in this case. It became a lawn dart into the ocean tragically.
~Brian
There are
Lawn Dart? not sure I will ever fly again...thanks. :lol:
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on June 05, 2009, 12:04:03 PM
Lawn Dart? not sure I will ever fly again...thanks. :lol:
If they had a loss of cabin pressure as reported by the aircraft's computers, you have a very short time to get to 10,000 AGL.
~Brian
RECIFE, Brazil – An Air France memo to its pilots Friday about the crash of Flight 447 said the airline is replacing instruments that help measure airspeed on all its medium- and long-haul Airbus jets.
Investigators have focused on incorrect speed readings as one potential factor in the crash.
With Brazil and France disagreeing about whether pieces of the jet have even been found in the Atlantic, investigators are using the last messages sent by the plane to determine the cause and try to avoid future disasters.
Air France declined to comment on the memo obtained by The Associated Press, saying it was for pilots only.
Airbus said the matter was part of the investigation into the crash that killed 228 people flying from Rio de Janeiro to Paris Sunday. The Bureau of Investigation and Analysis, which is leading the French probe of the crash, said it would address all questions at a Saturday news conference.
The memo sent Friday said Air France has been replacing instruments known as Pitot tubes and will finish in "coming weeks." It does not say when the replacement process started.
The plane's "black boxes" may be miles below the surface and investigators are looking for clues in the messages sent from the plane's computers just before it disappeared. One theory: the outside probes that feed speed sensors may have iced over, giving incorrect information to the plane's computers. The autopilot may have then directed the plane to fly too fast or too slow when it met turbulence from towering thunderstorms.
Airbus sent an advisory to airlines late Thursday reminding them how to handle the A330 in similar conditions.
The memo sent by Air France Friday says that a series of actions to reduce the risks of loss of airspeed information are being reinforced by "notably, the improvement of pitot models on Airbus' fleet of medium- and long-haul flights."
"On this topic, a program of replacing pitots with new models is under way," the memo reads. "It should be completed in coming weeks."
Pitot tubes are L-shaped metal tubes — about eight inches (20 centimeters) long on their longer side — that protrude from the wing or fuselage of a plane. The pressure of the air entering the tube lets sensors measure the speed and angle of the flight, along with less vital information like outside air temperature.
They are heated to prevent icing.
A blocked or malfunctioning Pitot tube could cause an airspeed sensor to work incorrectly and cause the computer controlling the plane to accelerate or decelerate in a potentially dangerous fashion.
Airbus said the French agency investigating the crash found that the doomed flight had faced turbulent weather and inconsistency in the speed readings by different instruments.
That meant "the measured air speed of the aircraft was unclear," Justin Dubon said.
In such circumstances, flight crews should maintain thrust and pitch and — if necessary — level off the plane and start troubleshooting, Dubon said.
Meteorologists said the Air France jet entered an unusual storm with 100 mph (160 kph) updrafts that acted as a vacuum, sucking water up from the ocean. The moist air rushed up to the plane's high altitude, where it quickly froze in minus-40 degree temperatures. The updrafts also would have created dangerous turbulence.
The jetliner's computer systems ultimately failed, and the plane likely broke apart in midair.
Brazilian officials have insisted for three days that military pilots have spotted wreckage from Flight 447 scattered across the ocean's surface. Air Force Brig. Gen. Ramon Cardoso again expressed confidence Friday that at least some of the objects — an airplane seat, a slick of kerosene and other pieces — are from the plane that vanished Sunday with 228 people on board.
"This is the material that we've seen that really was part of the plane," Cardoso said.
But ships guided by planes in the search area have been hampered by extremely poor visibility, and have recovered no wreckage. "We don't have any information yet that any of the ships are near any of the objects," Cardoso said.
The only piece retrieved so far, a cargo pallet, turned out to be sea garbage. Like other suspicious objects, it had to be hauled up and checked out, said Brazilian Navy Adm. Edson Lawrence.
French officials stopped short of criticizing their Brazilian counterparts, but France's Transportation Minister Dominique Bussereau said his own country's searchers have found no signs of the Airbus A330.
"French authorities have been saying for several days that we have to be extremely prudent," Bussereau told France's RTL radio. "Our planes and naval ships have seen nothing."
A French Defense Ministry official, speaking only on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly on the matter, also questioned the Brazilian claims, saying French teams "cannot precisely confirm the zone where the plane went down."
Cardoso also said a large oil slick spotted by search plane pilots was not from the Airbus, but that authorities believe another slick of kerosene was probably from the downed passenger jet.
France is sending a submarine to the zone where the plane is thought to have gone down to detect signals from the two black boxes, said military spokesman Christophe Prazuck. The Emeraude, already in the Atlantic, will arrive next week, he said. The vessel, which can dive up to 980 feet (300 meters) is to be used to help try to detect the signals noises from the boxes — believed to be up to 13,100 feet (4,000 meters) underwater. It will try to capture the acoustic signals, which can last 30 days, Prazuck said.
The Pentagon has said there are no signs terrorism was involved. Brazil's defense minister said the possibility was never considered. French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner agreed that there is no evidence supporting a "terrorism theory," but said "we cannot discard that for now."
Brazil's Air Force was flying relatives of victims to the search command post in the northeastern city of Recife Friday to tour the operation and ask questions. Recife has a large air force base where debris and any human remains would be brought.
Great job Pentagon....as if we didn't already know that.
~Brian
also mode 3 IFF is UHF, there fore line of sight to an ATC reciever. It's a big damn ocean, with no transponders to relay to the Aircontrol centers. The curvature of the eaerth plays a massive part in this, since even at 30,000', line of sight is only ~300nm.
Satellites are capable to support tracking, but it cost mega $$$$ for that to maintain, so I doubt it's constant.
Aaron
Gotcha, thanks for the info. I just figured, they were always tracked.... I didn't know there were so many factors. Makes sense now that I think about it. sad thing, hopefully it was a quick death for everyone aboard. :(
There are waypoints on flights over water that aircraft fly toward. When the aircraft is getting ready to depart, a flight plan is loaded and it will fly to the designated points along the route. When autopilot is engaged, you would select "NAV" and the airplane is virtually a worry free other than checking fuel burn, etc.. Now if weather pops up along the flight path, the crew can request higher altitudes to escape turbulence, or ATC may devert you around or "thread the needle" in between storms. You can't fly over storms usually because storm tops can be much higher than your service ceiling, so you must fly around them. Over open water, ATC should have diverted them or turned them around if it was that bad. The flight was previously delayed due to bad weather.
~Brian
I would bet there's going to be some big lawsuits when it's all said and done.
EW YORK (AP) -- General Motors Corp. has a tentative deal to sell its Saturn brand to former race car driver and dealership group owner Roger Penske, both companies said Friday.
Penske has signed a memorandum of understanding that would give his dealership chain, Penske Automotive Group, Saturn's 350 dealerships, the companies said. Penske said that he expects to offer all the dealers new franchise agreements and will retain all 13,000 Saturn employees for the immediate term.
"I would expect that the model that we're putting together, the distribution model, will be profitable day one," Penske said in an interview with The Associated Press. "We'll have less costs. We'll not be in the manufacturing side."
Neither Penske nor GM would say how much Penske is paying for the brand. Penske said he expects the deal to close in the third quarter.
Penske Automotive Group also distributes Daimler AG's Smart subcompacts in the U.S., but Smart has its own dealership network and Saturn dealers will continue to exclusively distribute Saturn vehicles, Penske said.
Initially, GM will continue to produce on a contract basis the Saturn Aura sedan as well as the Vue and Outlook SUVs, the companies said. But Penske said he is in talks with manufacturers around the world about building Saturn cars in the future.
"We will be selling as many GM cars -- a many GM-produced cars -- under the Saturn brand as possible," Penske told reporters in a conference call Friday.
GM had announced plans earlier this year to sell the Saturn brand. The car maker launched Saturn in 1990 with the tagline "a different kind of car company." GM's hope was that Saturn would attract younger buyers with smaller, hipper cars to better compete with Japanese imports. It built a new plant in Spring Hill, Tenn., devoted to Saturn production.
The factory had more flexible work rules than traditional GM plants for the employees who built the cars.
Despite a cult-like following that drew thousands to annual reunions in Spring Hill, the brand never made money for GM. The factory stopped making Saturns in 2007 and currently builds only the Chevrolet Traverse.
As GM focused more on high-profit pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles, Saturn began to languish in the late 1990s. Then in 2006, car buyers began to find Saturn's new models more appealing. But after a good year in 2007, sales dropped 22 percent last year as the U.S. car market withered.
Today, Saturn production is scattered at plants across the U.S. The Aura is built at GM's factory at Kansas City, Kansas. The Outlook is built in Lansing, Mich., while the Vue is built in Ramos Arizpe, Mexico.
The Saturn Sky roadster is built in Wilmington, Del., but that plant is scheduled to close in July and the model will be discontinued. The Saturn Astra was imported from GM's plant in Antwerp, Belgium, and was discontinued last year.
Penske Automotive will take over the separate Saturn parts factory in Spring Hill, which will continue to make Saturn components.
Penske Automotive owns the second-largest U.S. automobile retail chain by sales and consistently scores high in customer satisfaction surveys. the company also has race teams in the IndyCar, NASCAR and Grand-Am series. Penske received wide acclaim for heading Detroit's successful effort to host the 2006 Super Bowl.
Carl F. Galeana, who owns two Saturn dealerships north of Detroit, said Friday he was thrilled that Penske would be the Saturn buyer.
"Roger Penske is an icon in the business world," Galeana said. "I've worked with him personally. Nobody works harder than Roger Penske."
Galeana said the fact that Penske is interested in Saturn means the brand has value.
"It allows Saturn to get back to its original roots, which is to be an independent car company," he said.
GM, which filed for bankruptcy court protection on Monday, has said it plans to shed its Saturn, Hummer, Pontiac and Saab brands. Earlier this week, GM said it found a buyer for Hummer in China's Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery Co.
However, any such deal would require Chinese Commerce Ministry approval, and reports in state-run newspapers Friday said Sichuan Tengzhong had not yet obtained such an approval.
I bet you'll see Hertz rental cars go to all Saturn......Hertz car dealerships selling new Saturns too. Good news for Springhill, TN.
~Brian
Awesome news!!!! I hope it works out for Saturn, they make a solid car!!! Drove one for 2 years, sold it to my friend who's still driving it, has just over 200k on the clock!
I wish he woulda got GMC like he wanted in the first place :(
Still surprised about Hummer. Can't wait for the next Douche in a gm who talks $hit about my truck being Unamerican.
Quote from: Colorado700R on June 05, 2009, 02:13:02 PM
I wish he woulda got GMC like he wanted in the first place :(
That would have been REALLY expensive.
~Brian
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on June 05, 2009, 02:22:25 PM
Still surprised about Hummer. Can't wait for the next Douche in a gm who talks $hit about my truck being Unamerican.
Parts = Japan
Assembly = US
What's so difficult about that? No big deal.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on June 05, 2009, 02:31:05 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on June 05, 2009, 02:22:25 PM
Still surprised about Hummer. Can't wait for the next Douche in a gm who talks $hit about my truck being Unamerican.
Parts = Japan
Assembly = US
What's so difficult about that? No big deal.
~Brian
It's not. But others think it is.
GM
parts: Japan, CHina, Cambodia
assembly:10% USA
90% canada/mexico. :lol:
LOL, those numbers are nowhere near exact. Just an estimate, from seeing an origin sticker on window. And slightly fudging the numbers. :lol:
10% USA = A guy adding the MSRP when it gets off the boat from JAPAN.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on June 05, 2009, 02:40:21 PM
10% USA = A guy adding the MSRP when it gets off the boat from JAPAN.
:lol:
~Brian
quote O' the day! :lol:
Think how much more cars would cost if they were built/assembled 100% in the US.
PARIS – Air France had not acted on a recommendation to change airspeed-detecting instruments on Flight 447 before the plane crashed in turbulent weather, the French agency investigating the disaster said Saturday.
The French accident investigation agency, BEA, found the doomed plane received inconsistent airspeed readings by different instruments as it struggled in a massive thunderstorm on its flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris with 228 people aboard.
No debris from the aircraft has been found and without the aircraft's black box recorders, aviation investigators have little information to help them determine what caused the crash.
Airbus had recommended to all its airline customers that they replace speed-measuring instruments known as Pitot tubes on the A330, the model that crashed, said Paul-Louis Arslanian, the head of the agency.
"They hadn't yet been replaced" on the plane that crashed, said Alain Bouillard, head of the French investigation. Air France declined immediate comment.
Arslanian cautioned that it is too early to draw conclusions about the role of Pitot tubes in the crash, saying Airbus had made the recommendation for "a number of reasons."
Investigators are relying on 24 messages the plane sent automatically during the last minutes of the flight to try to locate the wreckage.
The signals show the plane's autopilot was not on, officials said, but it was not clear if the autopilot had been switched off by the pilots or had stopped working because it received conflicting airspeed readings.
In Brazil, visibility and weather conditions improved Saturday in the area searchers are focusing on but debris earlier spotted on the ocean's surface may have sunk by now.
"Debris doesn't indefinitely float, and when it sinks we will not have the means of finding them," Air Force Brig. Gen. Ramon Cardoso told reporters late Friday.
Earlier, Cardoso insisted that the debris spotted — an airplane seat, a slick of kerosene and other pieces — was from the plane. But he confirmed that Brazilian searchers had yet to recovered any of the material.
He said searchers did not pursue the reports of debris — the first sighting was reported on Tuesday — because priority was given to the hunt for survivors or the remains of victims.
Meanwhile, a German government-owned satellite spotted debris in the Atlantic on Wednesday, a German Aerospace Center spokesman said, but he added it was unclear whether the material came from the plane.
BEA chief Arslanian said the crash of Flight 447 does not mean similar plane models are unsafe, he said, adding that he told family members not to worry about flying.
"My sister and her son are going to take an A330 next week," he told a news conference at the agency's headquarters, near Paris.
He says planes can be flown safely "with damaged systems."
The flight disappeared nearly four hours after takeoff, killing all on board. It was Air France's deadliest plane crash and the world's worst commercial air accident since 2001.
The investigation is increasingly focused on whether external instruments may have iced over, confusing speed sensors and leading computers to set the plane's speed too fast or slow — a potentially deadly mistake in severe turbulence.
An Air France memo to its pilots Friday about the crash said the airline is replacing the Pitot tubes on all its medium- and long-haul Airbus jets.
Pitot tubes protrude from the wing or fuselage of a plane and help measure the speed and angle of the flight, along with less vital information like outside air temperature.
They feed airspeed sensors and are heated to prevent icing.
A blocked or malfunctioning Pitot tube could cause an airspeed sensor to work incorrectly and cause the computer controlling the plane to accelerate or decelerate in a potentially dangerous fashion.
On Thursday, European plane maker Airbus sent an advisory to all operators of the A330 reminding them of how to handle the plane in conditions similar to those experienced by Flight 447.
Peter Goelz, a former managing director of the National Transportation Safety Board, said that advisory and the Air France memo about replacing flight-speed instruments "certainly raises questions about whether the Pitot tubes, which are critical to the pilot's understanding of what's going on, were operating effectively."
But questions about speed sensors are only one of many factors investigators are considering. Automatic transmissions from the plane showed a chain of computer system failures that indicate the plane broke apart in midair.
President Barack Obama said at a news conference with French President Nicolas Sarkozy Saturday that the United States had authorized all of the U.S. government's resources to help investigate the crash.
Arslanian said investigators are searching a zone of several hundred square miles (square kilometers) for the debris.
An intensive international effort so far has failed to recover any confirmed wreckage, and concern has grown about whether searchers were even looking in the right place.
It is vital to locate a beacon called a "pinger" that should be attached to the cockpit voice and data recorders, now presumed to be deep in the Atlantic, Arslanian said.
"We have no guarantee that the pinger is attached to the recorders," he said.
Holding up a pinger in the palm of his hand, he said: "This is what we are looking for in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean."
Investigators are trying to determine the location of the debris in the ocean based on the height and speed of the plane at the time the last message was received. Currents could also have scattered debris far along the ocean floor, he said.
"You see the complexity of the problem," he said.
Laurent Kerleguer, an engineer specialized in the ocean floor working with the investigation team, said the zone seen as the most likely site of the debris was 15,112 feet (4,606 meters) at its deepest point and 2,835 feet (864 meters) at its shallowest.
France is sending a submarine to the area to try to detect signals from the black boxes, said military spokesman Christophe Prazuck. The Emeraude will arrive next week, he said.
I smell a HUGE lawsuit.
~Brian
bye bye Air France.
That aircraft has a minimum of four airspeed indicators, two digital, two analog fed by the pitot (pee-toe) static tubes. GPS can be used to determine the speed of the aircraft as well.
The pitot-static tube is a pressure measurement instrument used to measure fluid flow velocity.....If there opening is covered, you will not get an airspeed reading on analog gauges. The sensors that dechiper and convert the dynamic pressure to an airspeed are critical. I have flown with my pitot clogged by a bug once, and the only way I could tell my approximate speed was by listening to the engine and the whistle of the air going around the aircraft. Pretty spooky landing....I had to make sure I had enough speed when landing. I was caught in ground effect for 1000 feet before touching down so I estimate I was 10-15 knots faster than I should have been landing.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Airspeed_p1230157.jpg/180px-Airspeed_p1230157.jpg)
~Brian
You sound like the instructional videos I bought to study. :lol:
I didn't read the whole article, but they were cruising around 30k feet.If autopilot decreased the engine power because of a jacked pitot tube, they would start losing altitude. If they started losing altitude, the pilot should have been able to notice, and therefore increase engine power, right? Seems simple, but flying isnt easy and i wasnt in the cockpit so i cant say what happened...
But losing altitude in a storm, you probably have zero visibility so you'd never know it. Read on another site, a guy said he can track his $199 iPhone so why doesn't a multi-million dollar airplane have the same capability? Also read finding this plane wasn't like finding a needle in a haystack, it's like trying to find a needle in a hayfield.
I feel for the families.
The plane has an altimeter. These pilots had to be instrument rated right?
That's what I don't understand. Don't these planes have radio altimeters? I'm no pilot but if your instruments can't be trusted for airspeed, keep your throttles forward. You won't fall out of the sky at a high throttle setting. Watch the artificial horizon and keep it level till you're out of the storm. I doubt you can over speed in level flight.
Last I read the plane is believed to to have broken up at altitude. That must have been a heck of a storm. *cough* flyboeing *cough* Didn't the 777 pass it's wing stress certifications on the first try and Airbus had a hard time with them?
Divers find large tail section from Air France jet
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090608/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/brazil_plane
RECIFE, Brazil – Brazilian divers found a large tail section from an Air France jet on Monday, one of the biggest pieces yet recovered from wreckage that is helping narrow the search for Flight 447's black boxes. A U.S. Navy team is bringing in high-tech underwater listening devices to detect pings from the data and voice recorders.
Brazilian and French military ships that have so far recovered 16 bodies and large amounts of plane wreckage searched amid a sea of floating debris, finding the tail section with Air France's trademark red and blue stripes.
Brazilian military officials reduced the number of recovered bodies from the 17 announced Sunday, saying there had been a counting error.
What caused the Airbus A330 to crash May 31 with 228 people on board will remain a mystery unless searchers can locate the plane's black box flight data and voice recorders, likely buried deep in the middle of the ocean.
Two U.S. Navy devices that can detect emergency beacons to a depth of 20,000 feet (6,100 meters) are being flown to Brazil with a Navy team, according to the Pentagon. They will be delivered to ships that will then listen for transmissions from the black boxes, which are programmed to emit signals for at least 30 days.
Sixteen bodies were recovered Saturday and Sunday about 45 miles (70 kilometers) from where the jet sent out messages signaling electrical failures and loss of cabin pressure.
Authorities also announced that searchers spotted two airplane seats and debris with Air France's logo, and recovered dozens of structural components from the plane. They had already recovered jet wing fragments, and said hundreds of personal items believed to from passengers were plucked from the water.
Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva said his nation's military would do all it can to retrieve bodies and return them to relatives.
"We know how significant it is for a family to recover their loved one," Silva said Monday on his weekly radio show. He added: "During this painful time it's not going to resolve the problem, but it is an immense comfort to know they can bury their loved ones."
France is leading the investigation into the cause of the crash, while Brazilian officials are focusing on the recovery of victims and wreckage from Flight 447, which likely broke up in midair in turbulent weather the night of May 31 en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris.
French military spokesman Christophe Prazuck said the nuclear attack submarine Emeraude would arrive at the scene later this week and "will try to find the acoustic pings emitted by the black box."
The Ventose, a French military frigate, arrived Sunday and is now under Brazil command, Prazuck said. That ship has found and brought aboard seven of the 17 bodies of victims discovered so far, and about 30 pieces of debris that "most probably come from the plane," Prazuck said.
A French navy ship, the Mistral, is headed to the site, he said, and the oceanographic survey ship Pourquoi Pas, equipped with deep-water unmanned subs, is also en route and will try to retrieve the black box.
The search is focusing on a zone of several hundred square miles (square kilometers) roughly 400 miles (640 kilometers) northeast of the Fernando de Noronha islands off Brazil's northern coast.
Brazilian authorities have refused to release the precise coordinates of where they are looking, except to say the area lies southeast of the last jet transmission and could have indicated the pilot was trying to turn around in mid-flight and head back to the islands.
The investigation is increasingly focused on whether external instruments on the Airbus A330 may have iced over, confusing speed sensors and leading computers to set the plane's speed too fast or slow — a potentially deadly mistake.
The French agency investigating the disaster said airspeed instruments on the plane had not been replaced as the maker had recommended, but cautioned that it was too early to draw conclusions about what role that may have played in the crash.
The agency, BEA, said the plane received inconsistent airspeed readings from different instruments as it struggled in a massive thunderstorm.
Munhoz and Brazilian Navy Capt. Giucemar Tabosa Cardoso declined to comment on the condition of the bodies, saying that information would be too emotionally painful for relatives.
Neither would authorities immediately identify hundreds of personal items that have been recovered. Relatives of the victims were devastated by an announcement Saturday that a laptop computer and briefcase containing a plane ticket had been found.
"We don't want to cause them more suffering," Munhoz said.
The bodies and plane wreckage were being transported by Brazilian and French ships and should arrive Tuesday at the Fernando de Noronha islands, where the military has set up a staging post for the search operation. From there, remains and debris will be taken to the northeastern coastal city of Recife for identification.
Meanwhile, friends and family remembered geologist Michael Prince Harris and his wife, Anne Debaillon Harris — the only U.S. citizens on the plane — in a memorial service Sunday in Lafayette, Louisiana.
The couple had lived in Lafayette before moving to Houston and then Brazil.
The Pentagon has said there are no signs that terrorism was involved in the crash. French officials have also said there are no signs, but that terrorism has not been ruled out. Brazil's defense minister said the possibility wasn't considered.
Peelz and Preddy rejoice!!!
http://ERMAHGERD.yahoo.com/news/adam-lambert-finally-confirms-i-m-gay/23594?nc
Adam Lambert Finally Confirms: "I'm Gay"
Matthew Rolston for Rolling StoneUs Magazine Adam Lambert finally confirms his sexuality in the new issue of Rolling Stone (on stands tomorrow).
"I don't think it should be a surprise for anyone to hear that I'm gay," the American Idol runner-up says.
"I'm proud of my sexuality," continues the rocker, who was photographed holding hands with interior designer Drake LaBry earlier this month. "I embrace it. It's just another part of me."
But Lambert, 27, from San Diego -- who performed Sam Cooke's "A Change Is Gonna Come" on the Idol finale -- says he's not the poster boy for gay rights.
"I'm trying to be a singer, not a civil rights leader," he tells RS contributor Vanessa Grigoriadis.
Lambert admits that he was nervous about coming out while Idol was still on the air because contestants are under a media embargo, and he wanted to do it on his "own terms." (He also says producers were open to him handling it however he wanted to.)
"I was worried that [coming out] would be so sensationalized that it would overshadow what I was there to do, which was sing," Lambert tells the mag. "I'm an entertainer, and who I am and what I do in my personal life is a separate thing. it shouldn't matter. Except it does. It's really confusing."
Lambert credits the FOX reality show with helping him gain self confidence.
"I finally checked into my self-worth for the first time in my life, and the fact that it coincided with Idol is so sweet," he says. "I mean, I still have moments where I think, 'Oh, my skin is terrible, and I'm a little fat -- I should really go to the gym more.' But for the most part, when I look in the mirror now, I finally see somebody who can do something cool."
For more details on which Idol Lambert is attracted to, how he came out to his family, and what was going through his head when those photos of him in drag hit the web mid-season, pick up the newest issue of Rolling Stone, on stands Wednesday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090609/ap_on_re_us/us_missile_hooked
Fla. fisherman hooks live missile in Gulf waters
MADEIRA BEACH, Fla. – Florida authorities say a commercial fisherman reeled in a live missile in the Gulf of Mexico and kept it on his boat for 10 days.
The sheriff's office in Pinellas County say the boat's captain, Rodney Soloman, hooked the air-to-air guided missile 50 miles off the Panhandle town of Panama City. The Air Force and Navy use Gulf waters off the Panhandle for weapons training.
Soloman had the missile aboard his boat for 10 days before returning Monday to port in Madeira Beach, near St. Petersburg.
A bomb squad was called in from MacDill Air Force Base and dismantled the missile in an empty parking lot.
The bomb squad said the missile was very corroded from floating in saltwater for a long time. They said it was live and in a very unstable state.
Quote from: Krandall on June 09, 2009, 09:12:21 AM
For more details on which Idol Lambert is attracted to, how he came out to his family, and what was going through his head when those photos of him in drag hit the web mid-season, pick up the newest issue of Rolling Stone, on stands Wednesday.
THIS Is what Rolling stone has been up to..
WHAT THE FUK!
Quote from: Krandall on June 09, 2009, 09:12:21 AM
Peelz and Preddy rejoice!!!
http://ERMAHGERD.yahoo.com/news/adam-lambert-finally-confirms-i-m-gay/23594?nc
Adam Lambert Finally Confirms: "I'm Gay"
Matthew Rolston for Rolling StoneUs Magazine Adam Lambert finally confirms his sexuality in the new issue of Rolling Stone (on stands tomorrow).
"I don't think it should be a surprise for anyone to hear that I'm gay," the American Idol runner-up says.
:bird:
I called it. Fairy. Little bastard can sing though.
WHy does this Story read like Preddy's unwritten autobiography? :lol:
OHHHHHHHHHHH YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
(http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/2218/216316-macho_man_randy_savage_large.jpg)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090609/ap_on_re_us/us_nc_building_collapse
2 missing, 20 hurt in NC Slim Jim plant collapse
GARNER, N.C. – Officials now say only two people are unaccounted for after an explosion at a Slim Jim meat products plant in North Carolina.
Emergency Medical Services official Jeffrey Hammerstein says a third person initially declared missing was found and went to the hospital along with 20 other people. He says authorities were still searching for two others but it wasn't clear whether they were inside the building.
Hammerstein said five injured people were tagged as priority patients with serious conditions.
Several workers reported hearing an explosion before the collapse, and Garner Mayor Ronnie Williams says injuries ranged from burns to smoke inhalation. Emergency crews were keeping people away
Quote from: Krandall on June 09, 2009, 09:15:24 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090609/ap_on_re_us/us_missile_hooked
Fla. fisherman hooks live missile in Gulf waters
MADEIRA BEACH, Fla. – Florida authorities say a commercial fisherman reeled in a live missile in the Gulf of Mexico and kept it on his boat for 10 days.
The sheriff's office in Pinellas County say the boat's captain, Rodney Soloman, hooked the air-to-air guided missile 50 miles off the Panhandle town of Panama City. The Air Force and Navy use Gulf waters off the Panhandle for weapons training.
Soloman had the missile aboard his boat for 10 days before returning Monday to port in Madeira Beach, near St. Petersburg.
A bomb squad was called in from MacDill Air Force Base and dismantled the missile in an empty parking lot.
The bomb squad said the missile was very corroded from floating in saltwater for a long time. They said it was live and in a very unstable state.
Lucky bastid! I'd beg them to let me keep it. They can have the guidance and warhead, just let me hang that thing in the garage.
Could the U.S. Be Drawn into a New Korean War?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090610/wl_time/08599190371700
To fear a new Korean War is historically inaccurate, because, in fact, the last one never ended: the world's most dangerous border, across which some 2 million North Korean, U.S. and South Korean troops face each other along the 38th parallel of the Korean Peninsula is, in fact, simply an armistice line. On July 27, 1953, the U.S. and North Korea signed a truce pausing, but not ending, a war that claimed more than 2 million lives, including those of 36,940 U.S. troops. And the North's recent nuclear and missile saber-rattling has many growing nervous about the potential for a resumption of hostilities.
North Korea, in fact, announced on May 27 that it was withdrawing from the armistice. It declared it could no longer guarantee the safety of ships sailing through the Yellow Sea off its western coast, and would no longer respect the legal status of several islands off South Korea's coast. It also vowed to attack South Korea if North Korean vessels suspected of smuggling nuclear and missile components are stopped and searched by a U.S.-led U.N. naval armada - a proposal currently under discussion. (See pictures of North Koreans at the polls.)
U.S. officials are concerned that political instability inside the Pyongyang regime may raise the danger of confrontation. "Dear Leader" Kim Jong Il has been weakened by a stroke suffered late last year, his 26-year old heir apparent is not yet ready to take the reins and the North Korean military is eager to maintain its preeminence in the coming political succession. "Any time you have a combination of this behavior of doing provocative things in order to excite a response - plus succession questions - you have a potentially dangerous mixture," said U.S. Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair on Monday.
Despite the rising tensions, however, a number of factors militate against a new chapter being opened in the Korean War. South Korea, backed by the U.S., doesn't want war, because the North has some 13,000 artillery tubes aimed at Seoul and the more than 10 million South Koreans living within 30 miles of the DMZ. North Korea, backed by China, doesn't want war because if it comes, it all but guarantees the collapse of Kim's regime, which is also the family business. (See pictures of the rise of Kim Jong Il.)
Washington has made clear that it wants to solve this latest flare-up via diplomatic channels. "Our focus is now - and has been and likely will continue to be - on coming up with diplomatic and economic pressures that will persuade the North to abandon its pursuit of nuclear weapons and the platforms to deliver them," Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell said June 8. And if that fails? "We all need to be prudent about our planning for defensive measures." That suggests neither Washington nor Seoul is going to take preemptive military action.
The immediate priority of the U.S. and its allies is to prevent North Korea from spreading its nuclear know-how around the world. And their own lever is China's influence over the hermit regime. "There's a view that if you want to get the Chinese to act on North Korea, you need to signal a willingness to take military action," Scott Snyder, a Korea expert with the Council on Foreign Relations, said last week. "But at the same time, how do you do that - especially in conjunction with allies - without the Chinese feeling that you're trying to manipulate them tactically?"
China's role will be key, according to Larry Wortzel, who served two tours as a U.S. Army military attachÉ in Beijing. "China will not let North Korea collapse," he was told by several top People's Liberation Army officials during the Clinton Administration, according to his account in the latest issue of the U.S. Army journal Parameters. Beijing will help Pyongyang survive any sanctions. "There are limits to what the United States and its allies can do," he warns, "unless they want a complete break with, or to invite conflict with, China." China's motives are twofold: keep North Korean refugees from flooding across the border, as well as keep a U.S. ally from emerging on China's doorstep.
If it came to war, however, a key goal of any large North Korean attack would be to launch as many shells and rockets toward Seoul from its artillery tubes and launchers, many self-propelled or on railcars. The goal of U.S. and South Korean forces would be to destroy that artillery capability before too many rounds could be launched. While North Korea would build any attack around its 1.2 million–strong army, the U.S. and South Korea would rely more on their air and naval forces.
The Pentagon has largely refrained from saber-rattling, and is not planning to reinforce the 28,000 U.S. troops now in South Korea, or the 35,000 stationed in Japan. When pressed, U.S. military leaders concede that even their defensive plans will be tougher to implement given the fact that they currently have roughly 175,000 troops deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq. "There would have to be a level of ad hoc conglomeration of forces," General James Conway, the Marine commandant, told a Senate panel June 2. "But in the end, I am convinced we would prevail."
Thank GERD for dipshit Dictators........Job security for me :nod:
ERUSALEM (CNN) -- It was supposed to be a pleasant surprise, but turned into the shock of a lifetime.
A woman scours a garbage heap in Tel Aviv for her mother's missing mattress.
A woman scours a garbage heap in Tel Aviv for her mother's missing mattress.
A woman in Tel Aviv, Israel, gave her elderly mother a new mattress as a surprise gift, throwing out the old tattered bed her mother had slept on for decades. The gesture ended up bankrupting Annat's mother, who had stuffed her savings of nearly $1 million inside her old bed for decades, Annat told Israel Army Radio.
A massive search is under way at the city dump, where security has been beefed up to keep out treasure-seekers who have heard Annat's story in Israeli media.
Annat, who did not want to reveal the rest of her name, told Israel Army Radio that she woke up early Sunday to get a good deal on a new mattress as a surprise for her mother.
She fell asleep that night, exhausted after lugging up the new mattress and hauling down the old one to be taken out with the trash.
When her mother realized the next day what her daughter had done, she told her that she had been using the mattress to stash away her life savings and had nearly $1 million padding the inside of the worn-out mattress.
Annat ran downstairs, but it was too late. The garbage truck had already taken away the money-stuffed mattress.
Annat alerted the two major dump sites in the Israeli city in an effort to locate the bed, but so far she has had no luck. Yitchak Burba, one of the dump site managers, told Army Radio that he and his men are working relentlessly to try to help Annat find the million-dollar mattress among the tons of garbage at the landfill.
The publicity has triggered a wave of people also trying to find the mattress and its contents for themselves. Burba has increased security around the dump to keep them out.
Annat told Army Radio that when her mother realized her queen-sized bank had been tossed, she told her to "'leave it.'"
"'The heart is crying but you know we could have been in a car accident or had a terminal disease,'" Annat said her mother told her.
Annat is also taking the situation in stride.
"It's a very, very sad story but I've been through worse," she told Army Radio. "It's a matter of proportions in life ... people need to know how to accept the good and the bad in life."
I'd be sleeping at the dump looking.
~Brian
what's a ticket cost to Tel Aviv....... I bet it's less than 1,000,000 :D
Do you know how many people will be searching the dump now?
:lol:
Palestine unloads on the dump now.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on June 10, 2009, 01:35:09 PM
Do you know how many people will be searching the dump now?
:lol:
Palestine unloads on the dump now.
:lol:
~Brian
Think of all the cool stuff you can find @ the dump anyways.. It always amazes me the stuff people throw out!!! There's a good episode of It's always Sunny in Philly about it! :lol:
Always a good porn mag in the trash.
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on June 10, 2009, 01:37:02 PM
Always a good porn mag in the trash.
~Brian
Sticky pages more than likely. :help:
So are most National Geographic magazines.
:lol:
~Brian
Quote from: Flynbyu on June 10, 2009, 01:46:55 PM
So are most National Geographic magazines.
:lol:
~Brian
National Geographic = underage (<18) Porn Mag... :lol:
The JCP catalog isn't too bad either.....I wished I got as many Victoria's Secret magazines back in the day as I do now.
I'd never leave the house.
~Brian
Quote from: Krandall on June 10, 2009, 01:51:43 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on June 10, 2009, 01:46:55 PM
So are most National Geographic magazines.
:lol:
~Brian
National Geographic = underage (<18) Porn Mag... :lol:
KYLE!!
Quote from: Hefe on June 10, 2009, 02:33:18 PM
Quote from: Krandall on June 10, 2009, 01:51:43 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on June 10, 2009, 01:46:55 PM
So are most National Geographic magazines.
:lol:
~Brian
National Geographic = underage (<18) Porn Mag... :lol:
KYLE!!
Yeah, but why is he looking at the guys in loin cloths?
Pealer is cooking up a hellacious batch.......
DES MOINES, Iowa – Looking out the 11th floor window of her law office, Jane Wiggins did a double take and grabbed her camera. The dark, undulating clouds hovering outside were unlike anything she'd seen before.
"It looked like Armageddon," said Wiggins, a paralegal and amateur photographer in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. "The shadows of the clouds, the lights and the darks, and the greenish-yellow backdrop. They seemed to change."
They dissipated within 15 minutes, but the photo Wiggins captured in June 2006 intrigued — and stumped — a group of dedicated weather watchers who now are pushing weather authorities to create a new cloud category, something that hasn't been done since 1951.
Breaking into the cloud family would require surviving layers of skeptical international review. Still, Gavin Pretor-Pinney and his England-based Cloud Appreciation Society are determined to establish a new variety. They've given Wiggins' photo and similar pictures taken in different parts of the world to experts in England, and are discussing the subject fervently online.
"They (the clouds) were the first ones that I noted of this type and I was unsure which category to put them under," said Pretor-Pinney, author of "The Cloudspotter's Guide." "When we put pictures up online we list the category, and I wasn't sure how to categorize it."
Some scientists are skeptical. They argue that researchers who have long watched the sky haven't seen anything distinctly new for decades.
There are three main groups of clouds: cumulous, cirrus and stratus. Each has various sub-classifications built on other details of the formation.
Brant Foote, a longtime scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo., said the clouds photographed by Wiggins already fit into the existing cumulous classification.
But Pretor-Pinney, who never studied meteorology, believes the clouds merit their own cumulus sub-classification. He proposes they be called altocumulus undulatus asperatus. The last word — Latin for roughen or agitate — is a reference to the clouds' undulating surface.
"Not necessarily gentle or steady, but quite violent-looking, turbulent, almost twisted in its appearance," he said.
The group has compiled several photographs documenting the formations from the billowy, rolling clouds shot by Wiggins in Iowa to ones from New Zealand that were much more menacing, hanging lava-like in the sky.
Foote said it would be "very unusual" for such a formation to be recognized as a new variety of cloud.
"People have been looking at clouds for hundreds of years and the general cloud classification is well defined," Foote said. "It's not as if someone discovered a new plant in the Amazon. It's what you've seen every day. There was no atmospheric condition that caused a new kind of cloud to form."
Pretor-Pinney is working with the Royal Meteorological Society in Reading, England, to prepare his case. If that group signs off, the proposal will go to the United Nation's World Meteorological Organization in Geneva.
Society executive director Paul Hardaker said a small panel within the society is gathering evidence to review. Their efforts include talking with those who took the submitted photos to determinine when, where and amid what weather they were taken. Hardaker said meteorologists tend to be skeptical of such proposals.
"We like to believe that just about everything that can be seen has been, but you do get caught once in a while with the odd, new, interesting thing," Hardaker said. "By this stage we think it's sufficiently interesting to explore it further and we're optimistic about the information we've got."
:lol:
~Brian
they were all tweaking HEAVILY!!! :lol: :lol:
Dark clouds of noxious gas from cooking dope.
:lol:
~Brian
Damn Right.
Time to lock this one down....Thanks for everyone chipping in on the news!
Post news here: http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?topic=4782.0
~Brian