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[Flynbyu]

There are some people here that speak really terrible. Straight out of the trailer rednecks.

~Brian

[Colorado700R]

there a guy I know who sets tires under his trailer so it appears to be mobile (Axles are gone) so he doesn't have to pay property taxes 

[Krandall]

there a guy I know who sets tires under his trailer so it appears to be mobile (Axles are gone) so he doesn't have to pay property taxes 

that's AWESOME!   

[Flynbyu]

The funeral I went to was out in BFE, and I drove by a ton of mobile homes.....one was being bricked.

No shit.

~Brian

[Peelz]

there a guy I know who sets tires under his trailer so it appears to be mobile (Axles are gone) so he doesn't have to pay property taxes 

That made my day!

I like when the people around insulate with straw bales around the trailer skirting for winter...then leave it til it rots.. 

[Krandall]

I've got nothin against people who live in trailer houses. Only because that's where my parents started out. But they were always about keeping everything maintained. It's the trashy people that give the rest of the people a bad name.

Kind of like the sheep f*ckers. It's people like socal that completely tear them apart that give the rest of thems a bad name

[Peelz]

I've got nothin against people who live in trailer houses. Only because that's where my parents started out. But they were always about keeping everything maintained. It's the trashy people that give the rest of the people a bad name.

Kind of like the sheep f*ckers. It's people like socal that completely tear them apart that give the rest of thems a bad name

WOrd.....tainting the good sheepf**kers name!

[Krandall]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081216/ap_on_re_us/adam_walsh

Fla. police close books on '81 Walsh killing
Closure in 27-Year-Old Cold Case ABC News HOLLYWOOD, Fla. – A serial killer who died more than a decade ago is the person who decapitated the 6-year-old son of "America's Most Wanted" host John Walsh in 1981, police in Florida said Tuesday. The announcement brought to a close a case that has vexed the Walsh family for more than two decades, launched the television show about the nation's most notorious criminals and inspired changes in how authorities search for missing children.

"Who could take a 6-year-old and murder and decapitate him? Who?" an emotional John Walsh said at Tuesday's news conference. "We needed to know. We needed to know. And today we know. The not knowing has been a torture, but that journey's over."

Walsh's wife, Reve, at one point placed a small photo of their son on the podium.

Police named Ottis Toole, saying he was long the prime suspect in the case and that they had conclusively linked him to the killing. They declined to be specific about their evidence and did not note any DNA proof of the crime, but said an extensive review of the case file pointed only to Toole, as John Walsh long contended.

"Our agency has devoted an inordinate amount of time seeking leads to other potential perpetrators rather than emphasizing Ottis Toole as our primary suspect," said Hollywood Police Chief Chadwick Wagner, who launched a fresh review of the case after taking over the department last year. "Ottis Toole has continued to be our only real suspect."

Toole had twice confessed to killing the child, but later recanted. He claimed responsibility for hundreds of murders, but police determined most of the confessions were lies. Toole's niece told the boy's father, John Walsh, her uncle confessed on his deathbed in prison that he killed Adam.

Wagner acknowledged numerous missteps in the investigation and apologized to the Walshes.

"I have no doubt," John Walsh said. "I've never had any doubt."

Many names have been mentioned in connection to the case in the years since the killing, including serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer, but Toole's has persistently nagged detectives. John Walsh has long said he believed the drifter was responsible, saying investigators found at Toole's home in Jacksonville a pair of green shorts and a sandal similar to what Adam was wearing.

Toole died in prison of cirrhosis in 1996 at the age of 49. He was serving five life sentences for murders unrelated to Adam's death.

The Walshes, who appeared Tuesday flanked by their other children, long ago derided the investigation as botched. Still, John Walsh praised the Hollywood police department for closing the case.

"This is not to look back and point fingers, but it is to let it rest," he said.

Adam Walsh went missing from a Hollywood mall on July 27, 1981. Fishermen discovered his severed head in a canal 120 miles away two weeks later. The rest of his body was never found.

Authorities made a series of crucial errors, losing the bloodstained carpeting in Toole's car — preventing DNA testing — and the car itself. It was a week after the boy's disappearance before the FBI got involved.

"So many mistakes were made," John Walsh said in 1997, upon the release of his book "Tears of Rage," which harshly criticized the Hollywood Police Department's work on the case. "It was shocking, inexcusable and heartbreaking."

For all that went wrong in the probe, the case contributed to massive advances in police searches for missing youngsters and a notable shift in the view parents and children hold of the world.

Adam's death, and his father's activism on his behalf, helped put faces on milk cartons, shopping bags and mailbox flyers, started fingerprinting programs and increased security at schools and stores. It spurred the creation of missing persons units at every large police department.

"In 1981, when a child disappeared, you couldn't enter information about a child into the FBI database. You could enter information about stolen cars, stolen guns but not stolen children," said Ernie Allen, president of the Center for Missing and Exploited Children, co-founded by John Walsh. "Those things have all changed."

The case also prompted national legislation to create a national database and toll-free line devoted to missing children, and led to the start of "America's Most Wanted," which brought those cases into millions of homes.

What it also did, said Mount Holyoke College sociologist and criminologist Richard Moran, is make children and adults alike exponentially more afraid.

"He ended up really producing a generation of cautious and afraid kids who view all adults and strangers as a threat to them and it made parents extremely paranoid about the safety of their children," Moran said.

[Flynbyu]

I saw that.

Terrible.

Too bad it took them that long to finally get closure. I remember that happeneing when I was little. My mom was terrified for a long time. I couldn't play outside.

~Brian

[Krandall]

I saw that.

Terrible.

Too bad it took them that long to finally get closure. I remember that happeneing when I was little. My mom was terrified for a long time. I couldn't play outside.

~Brian

I can remember hearing about it still even when I was in elementary school crazy. Glad they got it figured out though

[Colorado700R]

Obama named John Salazar from CO to head the department of the interior.......


Kiss your public riding areas good bye gents, he's a super douche....


Your welcome 

[Mad Dog]

Only a few of our national parks are rideable to begin with.  There are a lot of good open national forests though, but here in the midwest they're getting clearcut already so unless there are good trees to be harvested in the riding area I don't expect they'll close those either.

[Colorado700R]

Only a few of our national parks are rideable to begin with.  There are a lot of good open national forests though, but here in the midwest they're getting clearcut already so unless there are good trees to be harvested in the riding area I don't expect they'll close those either.

ummm, you best check the amount of trails going through national forests MD.  He could majorly impact that.

[Mad Dog]

Only a few of our national parks are rideable to begin with.  There are a lot of good open national forests though, but here in the midwest they're getting clearcut already so unless there are good trees to be harvested in the riding area I don't expect they'll close those either.

ummm, you best check the amount of trails going through national forests MD.  He could majorly impact that.

...like I said...

lots of trails through forests but they're using the forests for clearcutting.  more likely to close land for more clearcutting than for enviro hippies.

[Colorado700R]

Only a few of our national parks are rideable to begin with.  There are a lot of good open national forests though, but here in the midwest they're getting clearcut already so unless there are good trees to be harvested in the riding area I don't expect they'll close those either.

ummm, you best check the amount of trails going through national forests MD.  He could majorly impact that.

...like I said...

lots of trails through forests but they're using the forests for clearcutting.  more likely to close land for more clearcutting than for enviro hippies.

Guess we'll see, but this guy has a record of going overboard on some issues, hopefully he doesn't just side with those "Thrillsport" Nazis growing in popularity around boulder and denver