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[Colorado700R]

There were no terrorist groups in Iraq. Saddam wouldn't have put up with that shit. He ruled with an iron fist, and killed innocent people and people suspected as a threat to his power.

Same reason Mutaqa Al-Sadr was just an alter boy then. If he tried to rally peeps while Saddam was in power, he'd be dead now.

~Brian

Common enemy common goal.  Just like any other war, the US not only destroys the physical arms of the enemy, we also attack infrastructure.  Iraq was and is a major part of  the supply, training, and other support systems.  

[Flynbyu]

You don't think we had enough satellites looking for activity in the dessert? We had patrols flying in the no fly zone to the north and south for how long? Twelve years?

I saying we would have had the location if there was any. If Saddaam was an actual threat to national security, he would have been watched like a hawk.

All he did was push the buttons of a hot head President and it got 4252 of our soldiers killed. Sure the Iraqis are better off but it's been at the expense of our familes, and our taxpayers.

Afghanistan has just had 1091 US soldiers killed in action. Still unacceptable, but if I were in uniform, I would be much happier serving there hunting for Osama and associates. At least I would believe that our soliders didn't die in vain.

I think the US focused too hard on Iraq looking for things that do not exsist, when we should have been looking for the root of our problem to begin with, Osama bin Laden.

I personally think Osama is not there. I think he's either in Pakistan, or he's back in Africa.

~Brian

[Colorado700R]

You don't think we had enough satellites looking for activity in the dessert? We had patrols flying in the no fly zone to the north and south for how long? Twelve years?

I saying we would have had the location if there was any. If Saddaam was an actual threat to national security, he would have been watched like a hawk.

All he did was push the buttons of a hot head President and it got 4252 of our soldiers killed. Sure the Iraqis are better off but it's been at the expense of our familes, and our taxpayers.

Afghanistan has just had 1091 US soldiers killed in action. Still unacceptable, but if I were in uniform, I would be much happier serving there hunting for Osama and associates. At least I would believe that our soliders didn't die in vain.

I think the US focused too hard on Iraq looking for things that do not exsist, when we should have been looking for the root of our problem to begin with, Osama bin Laden.

I personally think Osama is not there. I think he's either in Pakistan, or he's back in Africa.

~Brian

We know they had them, we just don't know what they did with them

[Flynbyu]

There were no terrorist groups in Iraq. Saddam wouldn't have put up with that shit. He ruled with an iron fist, and killed innocent people and people suspected as a threat to his power.

Same reason Mutaqa Al-Sadr was just an alter boy then. If he tried to rally peeps while Saddam was in power, he'd be dead now.

~Brian

Common enemy common goal.  Just like any other war, the US not only destroys the physical arms of the enemy, we also attack infrastructure.  Iraq was and is a major part of  the supply, training, and other support systems.  

I believe that, sure. What I don't believe is there was supply, training, and support for Osama bin Laden in Iraq.

Osama bin Laden would not have supported a dictator like Saddam, and Saddam would not have supported bin Laden. Osama would have been considered a threat to Saddam and his regime. Besides, Saddam called himself a Muslim, but persectued fellow Muslims and had thousands executed.

~Brian

[Colorado700R]

There were no terrorist groups in Iraq. Saddam wouldn't have put up with that shit. He ruled with an iron fist, and killed innocent people and people suspected as a threat to his power.

Same reason Mutaqa Al-Sadr was just an alter boy then. If he tried to rally peeps while Saddam was in power, he'd be dead now.

~Brian

Common enemy common goal.  Just like any other war, the US not only destroys the physical arms of the enemy, we also attack infrastructure.  Iraq was and is a major part of  the supply, training, and other support systems.  

I believe that, sure. What I don't believe is there was supply, training, and support for Osama bin Laden in Iraq.

Osama bin Laden would not have supported a dictator like Saddam, and Saddam would not have supported bin Laden. Osama would have been considered a threat to Saddam and his regime. Besides, Saddam called himself a Muslim, but persectued fellow Muslims and had thousands executed.

~Brian

Just like a terrorist muslim leader would not lower themselves into the drug trade?  Oops, don't look now....they already have.

[Peelz]

what is wrong with the drug trade?

[Flynbyu]

You don't think we had enough satellites looking for activity in the dessert? We had patrols flying in the no fly zone to the north and south for how long? Twelve years?

I saying we would have had the location if there was any. If Saddaam was an actual threat to national security, he would have been watched like a hawk.

All he did was push the buttons of a hot head President and it got 4252 of our soldiers killed. Sure the Iraqis are better off but it's been at the expense of our familes, and our taxpayers.

Afghanistan has just had 1091 US soldiers killed in action. Still unacceptable, but if I were in uniform, I would be much happier serving there hunting for Osama and associates. At least I would believe that our soliders didn't die in vain.

I think the US focused too hard on Iraq looking for things that do not exsist, when we should have been looking for the root of our problem to begin with, Osama bin Laden.

I personally think Osama is not there. I think he's either in Pakistan, or he's back in Africa.

~Brian

We know they had them, we just don't know what they did with them

They had chemical weapons, and short range missiles (Scuds) in the first conflict, but after that George Sr. took care of business and got the hell out. Iraq wanted Israel and other countries like Iran to think that Iraq had them. Iraq wants to be perceived as a threat, but after spending 6 years there without a trace of "WMD's"  I'm saying it's all bullshit. If it were true, I think we would have had more support like we did in the first conflict.

~Brian

[Colorado700R]

One of the global anti-american setiments is that the US can wage war from afar and level a country with out a single bullet flying on us soil.  

Sadams hatred for us for the decimation of his armed forces and infrastructure was fuel enough to reach out to an other wise "non-desirable" with a common goal to achieve an attack and support future attacks on the US soil.

[Flynbyu]

They grow opium in Afghanistan, not Iraq.

Iraq has oil, but it was firmly controled by Saddam. His wealth at his time of capture should have been a sign he was firmly in control.

~Brian

[Colorado700R]

You don't think we had enough satellites looking for activity in the dessert? We had patrols flying in the no fly zone to the north and south for how long? Twelve years?

I saying we would have had the location if there was any. If Saddaam was an actual threat to national security, he would have been watched like a hawk.

All he did was push the buttons of a hot head President and it got 4252 of our soldiers killed. Sure the Iraqis are better off but it's been at the expense of our familes, and our taxpayers.

Afghanistan has just had 1091 US soldiers killed in action. Still unacceptable, but if I were in uniform, I would be much happier serving there hunting for Osama and associates. At least I would believe that our soliders didn't die in vain.

I think the US focused too hard on Iraq looking for things that do not exsist, when we should have been looking for the root of our problem to begin with, Osama bin Laden.

I personally think Osama is not there. I think he's either in Pakistan, or he's back in Africa.

~Brian

We know they had them, we just don't know what they did with them

They had chemical weapons, and short range missiles (Scuds) in the first conflict, but after that George Sr. took care of business and got the hell out. Iraq wanted Israel and other countries like Iran to think that Iraq had them. Iraq wants to be perceived as a threat, but after spending 6 years there without a trace of "WMD's"  I'm saying it's all bullshit. If it were true, I think we would have had more support like we did in the first conflict.

~Brian

Negative, UN weapons inspectors were in charge of the destruction of WMDs back in 1998, the Iraqs failed to produce the weapons or valid documentation of there destruction.  Thats why Bubba Clinton started this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Liberation_Act

[Flynbyu]

One of the global anti-american setiments is that the US can wage war from afar and level a country with out a single bullet flying on us soil.  

Sadams hatred for us for the decimation of his armed forces and infrastructure was fuel enough to reach out to an other wise "non-desirable" with a common goal to achieve an attack and support future attacks on the US soil.

Again, Saddam was not a threat to US national security. The crippling sanctions to Iraq and the no fly zone established by our Air Force took care of that. Saddam could have possibly financed an attack with his large amount of wealth, but I honestly doubt he would have attempted anything like. What would he have gained by attacking the US? Fame? Fortune? He was already wealthy, and we've had a firm grip oin his balls since 1991.

~Brian

[Flynbyu]

You don't think we had enough satellites looking for activity in the dessert? We had patrols flying in the no fly zone to the north and south for how long? Twelve years?

I saying we would have had the location if there was any. If Saddaam was an actual threat to national security, he would have been watched like a hawk.

All he did was push the buttons of a hot head President and it got 4252 of our soldiers killed. Sure the Iraqis are better off but it's been at the expense of our familes, and our taxpayers.

Afghanistan has just had 1091 US soldiers killed in action. Still unacceptable, but if I were in uniform, I would be much happier serving there hunting for Osama and associates. At least I would believe that our soliders didn't die in vain.

I think the US focused too hard on Iraq looking for things that do not exsist, when we should have been looking for the root of our problem to begin with, Osama bin Laden.

I personally think Osama is not there. I think he's either in Pakistan, or he's back in Africa.

~Brian

We know they had them, we just don't know what they did with them

They had chemical weapons, and short range missiles (Scuds) in the first conflict, but after that George Sr. took care of business and got the hell out. Iraq wanted Israel and other countries like Iran to think that Iraq had them. Iraq wants to be perceived as a threat, but after spending 6 years there without a trace of "WMD's"  I'm saying it's all bullshit. If it were true, I think we would have had more support like we did in the first conflict.

~Brian

Negative, UN weapons inspectors were in charge of the destruction of WMDs back in 1998, the Iraqs failed to produce the weapons or valid documentation of there destruction.  Thats why Bubba Clinton started this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Liberation_Act

You can't destroy what you don't have.

~Brian

[Colorado700R]

They grow opium in Afghanistan, not Iraq.

Iraq has oil, but it was firmly controled by Saddam. His wealth at his time of capture should have been a sign he was firmly in control.

~Brian

You said a leader like Osama (Afganistan) wouldn't support Saddam (Iraq), but the truth is that these too would do ANYTHING to achieve their goals.  Sell drugs, weapons to radicals, etc.


And for the record Zero soliders have died in vain.  They died serveing their country, you and I may not agree with the decisions, but that will never discredit their honor and sacrafice for all of us.

[Peelz]

Wanna find Osama? Rent a movie at blockbuster in his name, then return it a week late. Those Nazi's will find him. They stop at nothing. 


Also, None of us would ever say that for real Aaron. 

[Krandall]

I don't want to step in between you to.. BUT...

If they had WMD's... How come they can tell me when North Korea appears to be rebuilding a nuclear powerplant / centerfuge but can't tell me where some huge ass missiles have moved. The fact is.. the US is always watching... If they DID have them. in my opinion, they would have found them. I know the desert is big. But so is our governments eyes.