Power Commander 5 Info Please

[Gunz]

Different setups maybe? IE fuels, pipes, intake setup....some might change their intake setup if they ride 2 different styles like dune/woods. IDK I'm grabbing at straws here....... but I would use the 2 different maps.


Let me get this straight. The O2 sensor hook up will automatically adjust a map for your applications? So if I decided to go from stock to 11:1 and big 3, it would automatically make a map for me? No more dyno's or begging for a map everytime I make an upgrade?

[Krandall]

supposedly the auto tune kids need a "base map" to start with.

[tonyrt44]

supposedly the auto tune kids need a "base map" to start with.

Yes you're right.
PCV needs a base map to run, and it will adjust the fuel% as it goes based on the user's required A/F input.

if you don't install a base map, PCV will go into a learning phase to establish its own base map. I just don't know how long it takes to accomplish it

[tonyrt44]

When Dyno tuned, A/F can be controlled as a variable through out the rpm range, ie.  12.8 @ idle and 13.5 @ 8500rpm

Can this flexibility be applied to the PCV self adjusting O2 setup?

[Krandall]

Hoping Steve will chime in


I'm hoping this isn't "To good to be true" I can see quite a few people ditching the PCIII and going to the 5 if it means no more dyno's. I know for me it'd be great. Closest one to me is a 4 hour drive 1 way!

[TechQuadShop]

Basically everything you have read here is true.  Hassan (tonyrt) is correct as well.  You upload a map on your pc5 and then set your desired A/f ratio.  The auto tune kit will make adjustments to your map to keep you at this ratio. 

PC3 maps will not work. 

PC5 is designed for 2009 raptor's

We will have PC5's for the 2006-2008 available in kit

[Krandall]

Basically everything you have read here is true.  Hassan (tonyrt) is correct as well.  You upload a map on your pc5 and then set your desired A/f ratio.  The auto tune kit will make adjustments to your map to keep you at this ratio. 

PC3 maps will not work. 

PC5 is designed for 2009 raptor's

We will have PC5's for the 2006-2008 available in kit

That's crazy. Maybe you could shed some light.

What's the difference between an 09' raptor and an 06'?  I thought it was (in a nutshell) the hood/dash..

[Onelunglow]

Basically everything you have read here is true.  Hassan (tonyrt) is correct as well.  You upload a map on your pc5 and then set your desired A/f ratio.  The auto tune kit will make adjustments to your map to keep you at this ratio. 

PC3 maps will not work. 

PC5 is designed for 2009 raptor's

We will have PC5's for the 2006-2008 available in kit

That's crazy. Maybe you could shed some light.

What's the difference between an 09' raptor and an 06'?  I thought it was (in a nutshell) the hood/dash..

Could be that the wires/connectors they use for a pc5 match only the 09 raptor. I've seen it on different banshee before. 

[Krandall]

Trying to think of what the PCIII plugs into...

Goes into the Fuel Injector and TPS... Can you think of anything else I'm missing..

I'm gonna see if they have different part #'s.

[Peelz]

yep, just like a car. Loop system with o2 sensor. Will adjust itself to changing conditions, but can only go so far before needing base settings remapped. THis sounds promising. Love seeing the little kids with their half-assed attempts to be drag racers sitting with their laptops hooked up to their little hondas.

My favorite thing about this is you could have quiet cores to ride with your family in your local park, then rip them sucka's outta there to go hit the dunes or drags.

[Gunz]

Hoping Steve will chime in


I'm hoping this isn't "To good to be true" I can see quite a few people ditching the PCIII and going to the 5 if it means no more dyno's. I know for me it'd be great. Closest one to me is a 4 hour drive 1 way!

I'll be all over it like a fly to $hit.... :grin_nod:

[Dhunter1231]

I'm skeptical   

[RaptorRandy]

So far the only info I have found on the PC5 and the Auto tune kit is on the PC5 website and it only has the info for the Harley Davidson unit. I assume it will be pretty much the same for the Raptor other than individual cylinder tuning, obviousley.

Auto Tune for Power Commander V
"Auto Tune" kits are available that include Wide Band O2 sensors and control boxes. It will plug directly into the PCV and allow automatic fuel adjustments.
Auto Tune can make a map for each gear it can map each cylinder separately for each gear if needed. (basic settings would make one map for all gears)
"Warm Up" fuel adjustment (unit reads engine temp and allows fuel/timing adjustments based on it)
Each map cell is individually adjustable so you can specify an exact AFR value for each area if needed. This allows the tuner/user to select specific AFR targets for idle, cruise, and large throttle opening areas. By doing this you can automatically tune the cruise area for best fuel economy while at the same time achieve maximum power at wide open throttle.
If we do not have the exact map for your combination of parts you simply need to choose the closest one and let the Auto Tune kit do the rest. If you have an very heavily modified engine and/or short drag pipes verifying your settings on a dynamometer is recommended.

Here's a link to the page: http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander_hd/powercommander_v_information.aspx#autotune




Randy 

[fastraptor]

I think it in theory it is great and if they get it right the first time it will have the ovious advantages,I think the sensor may be bulkey it would be cool if someone made a small sensor

[Krandall]

I think it in theory it is great and if they get it right the first time it will have the ovious advantages,I think the sensor may be bulkey it would be cool if someone made a small sensor

plus, it's also requiring you to tap into an exhaust pipe somewhere.