Looks Like McCain chose wisely

[Flynbyu]

She was a mayor of a city 5,500 people two years ago, govenor of a state with less than a million people (excluding bear, moose, and caribou).

I wouldn't let her do my taxes, much less be my President.

~Brian

[kyledvor61]

She was a mayor of a city 5,500 people two years ago, govenor of a state with less than a million people (excluding bear, moose, and caribou).

I wouldn't let her do my taxes, much less be my President.

~Brian

i meant more like how hillary would shit a brick

[Peelz]

"Both sides spend too much on pep rallies trying to sway voters by a speech they didn't write."

Amen again Flynbyu!

[FoundArealQuad]

I don't know anymore. I'm a Republican, but the Party has not done its self any favors in the last 6yrs. Something has to give with the next administration and I don't which one is the right one to do it right now. When they get into there debates with direct questions maybe I'll make my choice. America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. Abraham Lincoln

[socalrappy700]

She was a mayor of a city 5,500 people two years ago, govenor of a state with less than a million people (excluding bear, moose, and caribou).

I wouldn't let her do my taxes, much less be my President.

~Brian

It takes a ton of work and experience to run a state, no matter what the size.  And its not like Obama is bleeding experience.......other then wearing out his "present" button.  And he's from Illinois, the most politically screwed up and corrupt state out there.

[socalrappy700]

Those speeches are never worth a crap, and I choose not to watch the convention stuff. Both sides spend too much on pep rallies trying to sway voters by a speech they didn't write.

They say what the public wants to hear, written by some college educated moron that spent more on his education than I'll make in two years for a fancy piece of paper that says "I can write a speech." The speeches all say one thing, and the candidate will do something completely different.

Congressional Quarterly has reported that Sen. John McCain has voted with President Bush 90 percent of the time, while Sen. Barack Obama has voted with Bush 40 percent of the time.

I have a great amount of respect for the man that piloted A-4 Skyhawks over Vietnam (another bullshit war we shouldn't have been involved in), and spent nearly a decade in a prison camp with severe injuries. McCain is by far the closest Republican I could vote for. Where he is loosing me: His choice of VP, his tax plan, ending the war and bringing our troops home in the next year to year and a half (huge spending issue), and his failure to convince me he's not like every other Republican.....A President that seems to always help the rich, and skips over the majority of America, lower class and middle class.

I don't know about all of you, but I can't afford another eight years of a Republican like Bush. Bush in my opinion has had one good year, his first year. The rest have really sucked due to a bullshit war, emense spending, his administrations foreign policy, and his administration's blind eye to the nations economy. Everyone always blames it on a "Democratic controlled Congress". Democrats didn't take control of Congress/House until January 2007, and with a Democratic President, I think we as a country can move forward to tackle issues important at home.

~Brian

Yes they ALL use speech writers but they also speak what they feel, its not like they are told what to say, they tell the speech writers what they want to say and the writers "dress" it up so its deliverable.  Yes McCain has voted on the same issues as bush most of the time, but its the 10% of the stuff that he's voted against is the stuff that matters.  I looked at all the votes and I agree with all of him, I'm glad he voted against bush on all the ones he did.  Yes obama voted only a 40% with bush....well thats because a "present" vote doesn't count, anytime a law or bill comes in front of him that has any meat he fires out the present vote.  I'm not sure about you guys but I don't want a president that doesn't have a spine.  And do you really think Obama is going to get the troups out that fast?  You have to be kidding on me, he's already starting to flip on his opinion about when to bring them home.  Something the news has some how forgotten to talk about that much.  And you talk about taxes, well I hope you like yours going up.....who do you think is going to pay for this medical care plan....the people like you and I that are paying for our insurance or busting our ass to get a job that has insurance.  Just think of all the social programs that we're going to be paying for.  And you might want to look at who was pushing the bills to change the finance laws to "help" the poor little people that couldn't buy a house so the mortgage companies could give these funky loans to get the payments down....well it was those loans that got us in these problems.  You can bet your ass it wasn't the republicans pushing those laws.  And you blame spending on bush...well check history, both sides spend money like crazy.  And the democrats sure love the big government and taxing the crap out of the people that bust their ass to make something of themselves.  I say instead of offering a hand out to the lower class which doesn't teach them anything lets try offering a hand up. 

[Peelz]

i have to disagree with the speech thing..mostly.

You cannot tell me that George W has anything to do with any of his speeches. He can't even read them, let alone be a part of writing them. Like a 4th grader doing an oral boook report his mom wrote so her son wouldn't fail.

[socalrappy700]

I'll agree with you there.  I'm sure he takes no part in the speech writing process.  I'm sure he has his ideas but he just doesn't know how to deliver it.  You have to sell an idea, Kennedy and Regan were proof of that.

[Flynbyu]

Actually you can bet your ass it was the Republicans pushing the laws to make it easy for morons to get homes, they were in control until last January! During the Bush Administration, there have been more homeowners than ever, and more foreclosures than ever. Why? People living beyod their means?  Sure, but a piss poor economy, a weak dollar, and thousands of jobs lost due to a president's focus on Iraq while turning a blind eye on people who are suffering, the American low and middle class people.  Bush has the right to veto any bill as you know, but Bush has also found ways of exercising control over (or circumventing) Congress without using the veto. Bush went more than five years without exercising his veto power simply because he did not have to: the Republicans who controlled Congress gave him everything he wanted.

The threat of a veto can be just as powerful as a veto itself, and the Bush administration says it has issued 141 such threats since taking office. Some involved disputes over federal spending, an area where Mr. Bush has used veto threats to force compromise with fellow Republicans on Capitol Hill.

Yet some in the party, irate over the federal deficit, say they wish Mr. Bush had exercised his veto power sooner.

In 2002, the president came close to vetoing a $190 billion farm bill that expanded subsidies for growers.

"I think he should have vetoed the farm bill, because it was a lousy bill that perpetuated a really bad system," said Nicholas E. Calio, who was then Mr. Bush's assistant for legislative affairs. "But some people convinced him that discretion was the better part of valor."

(Source New York Times)

He had every right to veto any measure that has been made into law, but didn't until stem cell research was brought to his desk by Democrats after they took control of Congress. Instead, he has set a record. As of March 2006, 1,889 days in office, President Bush had yet to veto a single one of the 1,091 bills sent to him by Congress -- a record leaving him trailing only Thomas Jefferson in number of days served without exercising the veto.

Since the Democrats took over Congress in January of 2007, he has vetoed 12 times!!!!!!!

~Brian

[socalrappy700]

It wasn't bush pushing the new finance bills to help the mortgage companies with the funky loans.  Look it up.  Nancy P was the queen of that one.  

And I guess bush was the first one that used the veto power.  

[socalrappy700]

But this isn't a bush thread.  This is about Palin.  Stop trying to link her to bush.  Its no secret that you don't like him.  Democrats don't like her because she is anti big government.  As soon as she became the governor she balanced the budget.  Nice work in my book, cut the fat and get jobs going.  The oil pipeline she pushed really helped create jobs in her home state. 

[Flynbyu]

It wasn't bush pushing the new finance bills to help the mortgage companies with the funky loans.  Look it up.  Nancy P was the queen of that one.  

And I guess bush was the first one that used the veto power.  

Actually the mortgage industry was in a wreck before the Dems took control. They offered legislation to help American families out. I've seen first hand what it has done to lending on people with a spotless credit history. It was for $1 Billion dollars.

Yes, the Dems pushed for a bailout, but it's small in comparison to Iraq.

It's funny the Republicans want to bitch about spending a $1 billion on the American public, but they will spend $1 Trillion in Iraq.

Haven't you heard? One trillion dollars is the new "bailout" standard.

~Brian

[Flynbyu]

She's against big government, probably because she's not sure how to cope with it.

She was a mayor of a city of 5400 people, and governor of a state of 670,000 people.

Anyone smarter than the average bear in Alaska could balance a budget. I'm confident you could and have had the same result if not better. She has created jobs in her state?  As of July 2008, the unemployment rate in Alaska was above the national average 6.1%, and unemployment has risen in her state since she has became the governor in 2006, including an opening for Alaska's Public Safety Commissioner! (Ha!)

See graph below.



(Source State of Alaska's Worforce Info site)

I'm not linking her to Bush, and yes it's true, I dislike Bush as a President. He'll go down as the worst President in history.

I'm just stating the facts, and my opinion. Her record has not impressed me at all, and I think there were more people that were qualified to be the candidate that were not picked. In my opinion, it was a terrible move on John McCain's part choosing someone with her record and experience, not to mention future legal trouble.

Have a good weekend.

~Brian

[1FST690]

Why does the Alaska unemployment rate seem to mirror that of the entire United States over that time peroid? Would that not be more indicative of the overall economy not one govenor vs. another?

[Flynbyu]

Why does the Alaska unemployment rate seem to mirror that of the entire United States over that time peroid? Would that not be more indicative of the overall economy not one govenor vs. another?

Sure, I'd buy that.

Due to it's goegraphic location and harsh enviroment, I figured it would have been higher.

I was just using that graph to counter Erich's statement about Palin creating jobs. The unemployment rate did go up during her term.

~Brian