I hate oil

[ThisGuyAlex]

actually it's the epa.....said no more refineries and such here in the u.s.

[Krandall]

they need to figure out how to run a car on salt water or CO2

[socalrappy700]

hydrogen will be the way to go.

[Krandall]

hydrogen will be the way to go.

why Hydrogen? (all I know is the hindenburg blew up )

If they could use CO2 with a bi-product of Oxygen, it'd be a win win!

[socalrappy700]

hydrogen will be the way to go.

why Hydrogen? (all I know is the hindenburg blew up )

If they could use CO2 with a bi-product of Oxygen, it'd be a win win!

To be honest I don't have time to type up the full answer to this.  But I will when I get a chance.  Right now it leads the race to a new fuel system.  GM is using 400 cars in california and so is honda.  Ford is using hydrogen powered shuttle buses in florida. 

[Krandall]

Bi-Products? Availability? Costs?


Just quick simple answers are fine simple mind at work

[Peelz]

Yep, for sale in Southern Cal.

http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/?ef_id=1097:3:s_5239a13bb270c6dafa1b3efbc18cd02d_1053084942:xGXIzdBkHWMAACq9GVQAAAAW:20080710150618

[socalrappy700]

Bi-Products? Availability? Costs?


Just quick simple answers are fine simple mind at work

water
very easy to get now that they have the technology to produce it at the station
beyond cheap

[FoundArealQuad]

Methane, with all the Raptor riders talking shit it could power the world

[Krandall]

Methane, with all the Raptor riders talking shit it could power the world

There's a guy in Minn. First in the states to have his farm completely run by Methane. He works directly with the Univ of Minn on the project. His cow manure powers the whole place and he even sells excess energy back to the electric company here. He gave myself and a friend a tour. was WAY awesome.



Hmm, So hydrogen seems to be an obvious clear path. wtf is the hold up?

[Peelz]

Methane, with all the Raptor riders talking shit it could power the world

I think you could have generated a bit of methane with just this post.

[FoundArealQuad]

Oil companies are embedded into are politics that's why.

[RR34]

so where do you fill up on H

[FoundArealQuad]

The Chrysler building just got sold to a Arab oil producing country. At least they won't try to blow that one up. Makes me sick

[socalrappy700]

Oil companies are embedded into are politics that's why.

Oil companies have their hands into hydrogen.  They see the writing on the wall, they have been working on developing this technology for awhile.

Hmm, So hydrogen seems to be an obvious clear path. wtf is the hold up?

They should have something in the next few years.  Right now they are doing the studies to find the best way to have this at gas stations since there will still need to be gas for quite a few years, since people will not be able to convert their older gas engines.  There is a guy out of sweden that is producing a unit that can make the fuel right at the gas station.