Has Anyone changed carrier bearings?

[wobble]

Wow this is great information from Dave and Frank. 

Randy, you should make this a sticky. 

I'll probably be doing my buddy's bearings before trail riding season in a couple months. I'll try to remember to take some pics while we are doing it. It really isn't hard to do at all. Goes quick. I was surprised at how easy it was. Cussed myself out for procrastinating so long on it. 

[Colorado700R]

damn. I guess I didn't hit submit....

Isn't it stupid rediculous that the pivot works or ANY aftermarket bearing kit is cheaper than OEM...

Bass Turds 

Randy, you should make this a sticky. 

Done 

[r00st]

All Balls makes great bearings. I am not sure if they carry them for the 700? I put some in my DS730 before I sold it (was a bear as it was totally frozen up) but its not a bad install at all.
Check ebay or rocky for the all balls.

Another tip to make install go even easier...is put the grease packed bearings in a ziplock inside your freezer for about an hour...than put your carrier on a cookie sheet in the over set @ about 300 for 10-15 minutes. Pull the carrier out and the bearings, and they will pretty much drop right in (you can tap them in with a plastic hammer very easily) Saves you from having to pound in the bearings!

I didnt use a bearing installer kit on the DS...just used a really large socket (I actually think it was my counter shaft socket) and it fits over the bearings perfectly.

[russ-russ]

One thing to note for anyone thinking of going to an aftermarket carrier, the stock 700 carrier is a twin row setup.  Two bearings on each side.   The freezer/over trick will save you some serious grief, also the same type of trick for removing the stock bearings from the carrier, use a propane torch to heat the carrier and the old bearings will drop out much easier.

[digitalhearing]

Thanks for the detailed information on the freezer-oven trick,  I still haven't tackled this but I will need to soon as my new swingarm should be done any time.  Thanks again, I can't wait to "drop" them in.   

Grant

[r00st]

Believe you me, having them drop right in with a couple light taps is far better than trying to do it at room temp. The idea of slamming a hammer on brand new bearings just makes me cringe!

The DS730 I had was a 2001 and I did the bearings this year (so 7 years on stock bearings!)...It took 3 guys a case of beer and about 6-8 hours to get that damn job done. I learned my lesson, and will change out the bearings a little more often

Overall if there are no hiccups (such as a stuck axle...or the carrier gets stuck in the swinger...mine did both) then its really a simple project!

[wobble]

Another tip to make install go even easier...is put the grease packed bearings in a ziplock inside your freezer for about an hour...than put your carrier on a cookie sheet in the over set @ about 300 for 10-15 minutes. Pull the carrier out and the bearings, and they will pretty much drop right in (you can tap them in with a plastic hammer very easily) Saves you from having to pound in the bearings!

I didnt use a bearing installer kit on the DS...just used a really large socket (I actually think it was my counter shaft socket) and it fits over the bearings perfectly.

Good call r00st. I forgot all about that step. Although I didn't put the carrier in the oven, I did have the bearings in the freezer before install. Really helped them go in MUCH easier.

[Danny T]

Thanks for all the tips guys, my brothers bearings are out and have lots of play.

Is it difficult to get the actual carrier out? ANY SUGGESTIONS?

Thanks

[Krandall]

Thanks for all the tips guys, my brothers bearings are out and have lots of play.

Is it difficult to get the actual carrier out? ANY SUGGESTIONS?

Thanks

The actual carrier is pretty easy. You have to take off the complete right side of the axle.. Hub, Brake rotor, and axle nut. (and make sure to take the chain off. Once that'd done loosen the 4 pinch bolts on the swinger and it should slide out to the right.

[700crazzzynuttts]

If ya would like to do away with those pesky ball bearings !! then I highly suggest contacting RPM, they have the cure . taper roller bearings

[Bert]

If ya would like to do away with those pesky ball bearings !! then I highly suggest contacting RPM, they have the cure . taper roller bearings

It would be great if Brad @ RPM had a core exchange program to minimize downtime 

[SandDragon]

NEVER hit your bearings with a hammer!!!  Bearings are always made to tight tolerance so that the bearing stays put on the outside and spins on the inside, or visa versa.  Heated aluminum becomes brittle, yes cylinders are heated to drop sleeves and such, but I'm not 100% on the temperature. There is a breakover point where it is a no-no to heat the aluminum.  Just be careful as to how hot you get the pieces.  IMO it is always better to press bearings in or on than whack em'.  If you must whack em'... always use a piece of wood or other "buffer" to avoid direct contact between a bearing and a hammer.  At least you aren't working on a 660... those rear ends are a pain in the ... rear end. LOL.   

[mustangracer42]

All Balls makes great bearings. I am not sure if they carry them for the 700? I put some in my DS730 before I sold it (was a bear as it was totally frozen up) but its not a bad install at all.
Check ebay or rocky for the all balls.

Another tip to make install go even easier...is put the grease packed bearings in a ziplock inside your freezer for about an hour...than put your carrier on a cookie sheet in the over set @ about 300 for 10-15 minutes. Pull the carrier out and the bearings, and they will pretty much drop right in (you can tap them in with a plastic hammer very easily) Saves you from having to pound in the bearings!

I didnt use a bearing installer kit on the DS...just used a really large socket (I actually think it was my counter shaft socket) and it fits over the bearings perfectly.

I'm doing this replacement right now but have a question.  Obviously there are two brgs on each side but in the pkg of new brgs I got it has two of them with a seal on the inside and outside  and the other two brgs only have a seal on one side.  What order do they go in?  I'm guessing that it's one totally sealed brg and one half sealed brg on each side but which way does the open sid of the half sealed brg go? 

Did I explain this well enough for somebody to help me out?

Thanks in advance

[Krandall]

Mine were placed. double sealed ones on the outside, and the single inside w/ the seal facing inside.

[mustangracer42]

that's what I thought but it always helps to have that litytle bit of reassurance form somebody who's already done it.

Thanks Randy