Ice racing tires

Started by SULLY0556, January 20, 2011, 07:57:51 AM

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SULLY0556

January 20, 2011, 07:57:51 AM
Here's the place to share your ice tire knowledge.  I'm always looking for new ideas and tricks so post em' up and lets find a good combination!!

Sully
06 700R with:
Big black tires, Lots of shiny metal stuff, some stinky oily stuff inside, AM/FM 8-track hi-fi system, Leopard skin seat cover, Fuzzy dice, curb feelers, a "soccer mom" license plate, and a "my other bike's a Bayou" bumper sticker.

SULLY0556

#1
January 20, 2011, 08:10:57 AM
On the rears I started with Cheng-shin C-826 18x9.5x8 tires.  The first set I built I used Golds and cut the leading edge of the knob for a smaller profile.  They worked ok but not great.
06 700R with:
Big black tires, Lots of shiny metal stuff, some stinky oily stuff inside, AM/FM 8-track hi-fi system, Leopard skin seat cover, Fuzzy dice, curb feelers, a "soccer mom" license plate, and a "my other bike's a Bayou" bumper sticker.

SULLY0556

#2
January 20, 2011, 08:19:27 AM
The next set of tires I used Kold Kutters.  I still trimmed the leading edge of each knob and nutted the studs inside the tires.  I also put a 15 degree angle on each stud going into the knob. These worked much better.  You want to angle the stud so when it contacts the ice the head is actually tipped back and the leading edge contacts the ice first.  if you put them on backwards the stud head will fill up with ice and you'll lose all traction.  Make sure you're on the throttle thru the corners or you'll quickly lose traction.
06 700R with:
Big black tires, Lots of shiny metal stuff, some stinky oily stuff inside, AM/FM 8-track hi-fi system, Leopard skin seat cover, Fuzzy dice, curb feelers, a "soccer mom" license plate, and a "my other bike's a Bayou" bumper sticker.

SULLY0556

#3
January 20, 2011, 08:25:10 AM
  Now the last set I did I used Kold Kutter Kanadians 1-1/2" screws.  I trimmed all 4 edges of every knob and nutted the studs.  I again used the 15 degree angle and tuned them for turning more than straight ahead running.  They work awesome.  After 2 seasons on them I'm starting to lose some studs, they are pulling out with the nut still on them so the next set of tires will have an extra 1/4" of rubber inside the tire and a new trick I learned installing the studs.  ;)
Here's some pics of the last set, the studs I used, and the nuts I used.

Sully
06 700R with:
Big black tires, Lots of shiny metal stuff, some stinky oily stuff inside, AM/FM 8-track hi-fi system, Leopard skin seat cover, Fuzzy dice, curb feelers, a "soccer mom" license plate, and a "my other bike's a Bayou" bumper sticker.

SULLY0556

#4
January 20, 2011, 08:26:24 AM
More pics
06 700R with:
Big black tires, Lots of shiny metal stuff, some stinky oily stuff inside, AM/FM 8-track hi-fi system, Leopard skin seat cover, Fuzzy dice, curb feelers, a "soccer mom" license plate, and a "my other bike's a Bayou" bumper sticker.

SULLY0556

#5
January 20, 2011, 08:27:35 AM
Some more
06 700R with:
Big black tires, Lots of shiny metal stuff, some stinky oily stuff inside, AM/FM 8-track hi-fi system, Leopard skin seat cover, Fuzzy dice, curb feelers, a "soccer mom" license plate, and a "my other bike's a Bayou" bumper sticker.

SULLY0556

#6
January 20, 2011, 08:29:30 AM
  Here's the nuts I used, they go on pretty easy with a nut-driver and cut their own threads.  Of course you need to protect your studs so make (or buy) a set of skins to keep the studs off the cement at all times!!
06 700R with:
Big black tires, Lots of shiny metal stuff, some stinky oily stuff inside, AM/FM 8-track hi-fi system, Leopard skin seat cover, Fuzzy dice, curb feelers, a "soccer mom" license plate, and a "my other bike's a Bayou" bumper sticker.

SULLY0556

#7
January 20, 2011, 08:30:57 AM
For front tires I originally went with Kold Kutters and didn't nut the screws.
06 700R with:
Big black tires, Lots of shiny metal stuff, some stinky oily stuff inside, AM/FM 8-track hi-fi system, Leopard skin seat cover, Fuzzy dice, curb feelers, a "soccer mom" license plate, and a "my other bike's a Bayou" bumper sticker.

SULLY0556

#8
January 20, 2011, 08:34:14 AM
My current set I used Bridgestone DH05 (dirt hooks) and they are AWESOME!  I also used Kanadians and nutted each stud.  These tires needed to be balanced on the rims since they're not a high-speed tire but they hook up great.  I took my time marking the stud pattern and didn't over-stud them.  My front end never washes out and I can stop on a dime if needed.
06 700R with:
Big black tires, Lots of shiny metal stuff, some stinky oily stuff inside, AM/FM 8-track hi-fi system, Leopard skin seat cover, Fuzzy dice, curb feelers, a "soccer mom" license plate, and a "my other bike's a Bayou" bumper sticker.

SULLY0556

#9
January 20, 2011, 08:39:35 AM
Now for some other tricks that I found help on the ice.....

Every rider I ran with was hanging off the bike in the corners and had their inside leg flopping in the air.  I built a set of foot-peg extensions and now I get great securement in the corners and can actually push the inside down with my foot while cornering. :thumbs:
 
   Some undercoating paint or bed-liner works well for a tough and good looking finish.
06 700R with:
Big black tires, Lots of shiny metal stuff, some stinky oily stuff inside, AM/FM 8-track hi-fi system, Leopard skin seat cover, Fuzzy dice, curb feelers, a "soccer mom" license plate, and a "my other bike's a Bayou" bumper sticker.

SULLY0556

#10
January 20, 2011, 08:44:53 AM
  The next problem was a little more tricky.   I still didn't have enough traction in the rear and the bike scaled out badly with too much weight up front.  The engine on a Rappy is set forward so it's hard to get more weight on the back tires.   I bought another swing arm and removed 2" from it.  It made a huge difference and the handeling is still pretty good.  Some bed-liner finished it off nicely.  :)
06 700R with:
Big black tires, Lots of shiny metal stuff, some stinky oily stuff inside, AM/FM 8-track hi-fi system, Leopard skin seat cover, Fuzzy dice, curb feelers, a "soccer mom" license plate, and a "my other bike's a Bayou" bumper sticker.

SULLY0556

#11
January 20, 2011, 08:46:30 AM
A few more pics of the swinger
06 700R with:
Big black tires, Lots of shiny metal stuff, some stinky oily stuff inside, AM/FM 8-track hi-fi system, Leopard skin seat cover, Fuzzy dice, curb feelers, a "soccer mom" license plate, and a "my other bike's a Bayou" bumper sticker.

SULLY0556

#12
January 20, 2011, 08:47:30 AM
Finished, painted, and mounted.
06 700R with:
Big black tires, Lots of shiny metal stuff, some stinky oily stuff inside, AM/FM 8-track hi-fi system, Leopard skin seat cover, Fuzzy dice, curb feelers, a "soccer mom" license plate, and a "my other bike's a Bayou" bumper sticker.

SULLY0556

#13
January 20, 2011, 08:51:38 AM
Now she still needed to be lowered down a bit.  I was too cheap to buy a lowering kit and I had a spare rear link so here's what we did.  :)   I have a buddy at a machine shop so he actually did this for me.   I did need to cut away a bit of the rear link for clearance but she's nice and low now with good suspension.
06 700R with:
Big black tires, Lots of shiny metal stuff, some stinky oily stuff inside, AM/FM 8-track hi-fi system, Leopard skin seat cover, Fuzzy dice, curb feelers, a "soccer mom" license plate, and a "my other bike's a Bayou" bumper sticker.

SULLY0556

#14
January 20, 2011, 08:52:18 AM Last Edit: January 20, 2011, 09:47:04 AM by SULLY0556
Here's where I needed to grind a bit off the link.
06 700R with:
Big black tires, Lots of shiny metal stuff, some stinky oily stuff inside, AM/FM 8-track hi-fi system, Leopard skin seat cover, Fuzzy dice, curb feelers, a "soccer mom" license plate, and a "my other bike's a Bayou" bumper sticker.
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