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Started by spdraycr, July 03, 2009, 09:34:43 PM

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spdraycr

ok,im gna have ur post open later when i go home to get crackin at this again.seems like its somthin little,but yet annoying,that is giving me the problem.it sucks but is kinda good because at the same time im learning as i go...yippee for me... :clap:
drive it like ya stole it..

Peelz

#31
open these posts. This one helped me back int RF days. great writeup!!!!!

complete carb how to with pics

http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?topic=20.0

clear tube float mod

http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?topic=5.0

and this jetting 101

http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?topic=8.0
Krandall: "peelz. I'll be real with you. As much as I hate on you for soccer, I really don't mind it"


Segkast

Oury grips & Yamalube

Peelz

Quote from: SegKast on July 15, 2009, 11:44:07 AM
All good reads  :thumbs:

the memories..... :lol:

that thread did not make me miss my 660 :lol:
Krandall: "peelz. I'll be real with you. As much as I hate on you for soccer, I really don't mind it"


spdraycr

ok fellas,heres the latest.thanks to my buddy wayne who has his own race team,shop etc,i got some jets that seem to work for me at the moment.installed a 150 and 155 and after a little rubbing,petting and caressing,she turned over and started up for me.idled very high for a little bit,but then seemed to settle down a bit.all seems well and back to normal except my header pipe gets cherry red while at ldle.if i ride and get some wind flowing on it,it cools down (obviously,duh),but still glows.when i give it gas,it revs back up until im in gear and roll out alil.also had afew fire balls shoot out.im assuming this is all because now im running rich due to the extra amount of gas flowing.question is,how bad is this and how long before something horrible happens to me/bike?should i go down in jet size,do i need to go up in pilot size,do i adjust idle screw.....what do you guys/gals (where applicable) think?
drive it like ya stole it..

Peelz

jets seem like they are in the right zone.  Check a/f screw. 2-3 turns out from fully in. Then, might need a bigger pilot. 25 instead of 22.5. Might need to adjust needles?

Is your airbox lid on?
Krandall: "peelz. I'll be real with you. As much as I hate on you for soccer, I really don't mind it"


spdraycr

ok cool.is a/f short for air fuel?which/where is that?how do i adjust the needles/where are those.please excuse all the questions,im trying to learn as i go...no im not running with a lid.cut the whole box off for you know....that custom look..lol.
drive it like ya stole it..

Peelz

Quote from: spdraycr on July 22, 2009, 12:31:08 PM
ok cool.is a/f short for air fuel?which/where is that?how do i adjust the needles/where are those.please excuse all the questions,im trying to learn as i go...no im not running with a lid.cut the whole box off for you know....that custom look..lol.

yes a/f is mixture.

read those links I posted.

http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?topic=20.0

the needle is what pops up to allow fuel and air into the carb. When it gets enough vaccum, it opens up more and more. Changing the position of the spring adjusts how much vacuum it takes to lift the needle up. Move clip down further on the needle=less tension on the spring allowing to move faster, higher = richer mixture (more fuel) MOve it up = leaner fuel, more tension. Read that thread, and look at pics very close. You will find out most of what you need to know. (might be backwards)  :lol:

Running without your airbox completely, I would think you need to adjust pilot size, and a/f idle screws.. COuld still be lean.

MD, Segkast...help a brutha. I am running out of info :lol: YOu guys still have your 660's  ;)
Krandall: "peelz. I'll be real with you. As much as I hate on you for soccer, I really don't mind it"


Segkast

I think Peels is pretty much on point here, I don't have a lot to add :lol: Seriously though, read through those posts like they're a text book and you got mid-terms coming up. Pay attention and read them a  couple times if you need to. I know I have !

Unfortunately this is just gonna be a bitch until you get it right...was for all of us, and is whenever we change something again, and again... LMFAO

You know, I just had a thought... when I bought my CT pipe it came with some longer titanium needles as well. I'm still running those and haven't had a problem. ( This is just kind of a side thought, don't think it will help your issue much?) Do you guys know where you can buy just different needles ? Wonder if you can just order the needles themselves from CT ?
Oury grips & Yamalube

Segkast

How's your plug look ? Can you go out anywhere and ride it wide open in the condition it's in ?

Run it for a few minutes where it's at, check the plug.

If you can, run it wide open somewhere, shut it down and pull the plug as quick as you can (bring the tools).

Your mains and pilots control the flow at different points. I might have this backwards now, but I believe the mains control more of your 1/4-1/2 throttle, where the pilots are full throttle. This is why I suggest checking the plug after going wide open like that - will give you a more accurate idea of what's going on, where.

Oury grips & Yamalube

spdraycr

cool.yea im gonna tinker with it today.at least i got it running again..with the help of everybody here of course ;) im gonna change the pilots and see what happens.maybe that will help get my header pipe back to normal color. honestly,i cant wait to get the new 700se so i dont have to worry about most of these problems..hehehe (evil genious laugh)...tt and flat track races this weekend and i just may go...another question-how do i do a standing burn out?i see the guys do it before they race on the clay and i know its to get the tires hot,but is there any trick to it or no?
drive it like ya stole it..

spdraycr

the plug before this one turned white at the tip.was told that was because it was too lean.put a new one in and checked it after racing through the gears on my street last night and it looked ok.i run the ngk plugs.the bike doesnt bog down or miss or do anything out of the ordinary.just the header pipe has been cherry red when not riding (at idle)and it tends to idle high sometimes when im sitting still and mash the throttle.seems like i could be running alil rich..
drive it like ya stole it..

Peelz

Quote from: SegKast on July 22, 2009, 02:05:42 PM
I think Peels is pretty much on point here, I don't have a lot to add :lol: Seriously though, read through those posts like they're a text book and you got mid-terms coming up. Pay attention and read them a  couple times if you need to. I know I have !

Unfortunately this is just gonna be a bitch until you get it right...was for all of us, and is whenever we change something again, and again... LMFAO

You know, I just had a thought... when I bought my CT pipe it came with some longer titanium needles as well. I'm still running those and haven't had a problem. ( This is just kind of a side thought, don't think it will help your issue much?) Do you guys know where you can buy just different needles ? Wonder if you can just order the needles themselves from CT ?

Post of the day :lol:

And...I was right? holy biscuits :lol:  Hey, Pipes glowing red can happen. Don't remember my 660 doing it, the headers were caked with mud... :lol: Raptor 700 does it stock. Just happens. Worst case..you are a bit lean.
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Krandall

Quote from: SegKast on July 22, 2009, 02:05:42 PM
Unfortunately this is just gonna be a bitch until you get it right...was for all of us, and is whenever we change something again, and again... LMFAO


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Segkast

Cherry headers and a white ass plug sounds lean to me. Is it a new pipe ? My CT glowed pretty hot when I popped it on, before I fucked w/the carbs, and then still did after jetting it for a little bit. It stopped after like the second ride though ?
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