New DMC's look like Barkers?

[downfour]

the only reason the these dmc pipes are decent is because they copied off the barkers..      FERK dmc they wouldn't ever get a dime of my money.. 

[Pile0g00]

the only reason the these dmc pipes are decent is because they copied off the barkers..      F ck dmc they wouldn't ever get a dime of my money.. 

You have no proof of that

[Tim Barker]

Actually i think we do.

[socalrappy700]

If Tim says they do then I'll buy that.  He's aces in my book.

[Tim Barker]

In January dmc calls on a couple of my dealers and asks them if they will design them a system like ours and also tells a few others that i am going out of business. Then they have the megaphone part of the system made by the same company that supplies us. They also offer different size reverse cones for tuning the exhaust JUST like I do. If you change the exhaust cans they look just like Mine. {BUT THAT IS NOT A COPY}  Maybe they should come up with their own idea and still make a good pipe that might get them a lot more respect.

[kyledvor61]

In January dmc calls on a couple of my dealers and asks them if they will design them a system like ours and also tells a few others that i am going out of business. Then they have the megaphone part of the system made by the same company that supplies us. They also offer different size reverse cones for tuning the exhaust JUST like I do. If you change the exhaust cans they look just like Mine. {BUT THAT IS NOT A COPY}  Maybe they should come up with their own idea and still make a good pipe that might get them a lot more respect.

that blows man

[downfour]

In January dmc calls on a couple of my dealers and asks them if they will design them a system like ours and also tells a few others that i am going out of business. Then they have the megaphone part of the system made by the same company that supplies us. They also offer different size reverse cones for tuning the exhaust JUST like I do. If you change the exhaust cans they look just like Mine. {BUT THAT IS NOT A COPY}  Maybe they should come up with their own idea and still make a good pipe that might get them a lot more respect.

thanks tim..      this dmc shit pisses me off..         

[Pile0g00]

In January dmc calls on a couple of my dealers and asks them if they will design them a system like ours and also tells a few others that i am going out of business. Then they have the megaphone part of the system made by the same company that supplies us. They also offer different size reverse cones for tuning the exhaust JUST like I do. If you change the exhaust cans they look just like Mine. {BUT THAT IS NOT A COPY}  Maybe they should come up with their own idea and still make a good pipe that might get them a lot more respect.

Sorry but that sounds like a lot of hearsay and slander to me...  Even if they did want to make a pipe "like" yours then that is not copying.  That is the nature of competition... One company will come out with a kick butt 450 quad, then another rival company will come out with one "like" it, only they will try to make some improvements.  If they seriously infringed on any copyrights then get a lawyer and deal with it like business men.  If not, then just focus on one upping them like every other company rival.  From what I hear you are already working on a better pipe.  All this seems very unprofessional to me.

[RaptorRandy]

the only reason the these dmc pipes are decent is because they copied off the barkers..      F ck dmc they wouldn't ever get a dime of my money.. 

I'm glad someone finally said it.......I have been biting my tongue out of respect for sponsors who will be selling these.

[RaptorRandy]

Pile......you need to drop that line of garbage to Tim.
I know that DMC purchased a set of Barker pipes from a well know sponsor and copied them....that's all I have to say about that.

Just remember, it ain't slander if it's the truth......

[preddy08]

In January dmc calls on a couple of my dealers and asks them if they will design them a system like ours and also tells a few others that i am going out of business. Then they have the megaphone part of the system made by the same company that supplies us. They also offer different size reverse cones for tuning the exhaust JUST like I do. If you change the exhaust cans they look just like Mine. {BUT THAT IS NOT A COPY}  Maybe they should come up with their own idea and still make a good pipe that might get them a lot more respect.

Sorry but that sounds like a lot of hearsay and slander to me...  Even if they did want to make a pipe "like" yours then that is not copying.  That is the nature of competition... One company will come out with a kick butt 450 quad, then another rival company will come out with one "like" it, only they will try to make some improvements.  If they seriously infringed on any copyrights then get a lawyer and deal with it like business men.  If not, then just focus on one upping them like every other company rival.  From what I hear you are already working on a better pipe.  All this seems very unprofessional to me.

I agree with Pile. Yes it sucks that DMC is'nt savy enought to design there own pipes. Thats just the nature of the business. Do you really thing that companys dont look at one another for "ideas" for there own product.

Did DMC do something shitty and underhanded, yes. (if the hearsay is correct, not saying it is'nt)

Did they do something illegal, no.

This shit happens all the time.

[air]

This whole thread has been  hijacked.  The topic of if it is a ripped off design or not should be discussed elsewhere. 
KBR was sent a set of pipes to dyno and he did that. He posted his findings here to help us make informed decisions.
We should give Kam a bit of respect instead of bashing on his thread.
Tim I am sorry if they ripped off your Pipe .
I saw the ones at KBR and thought the looked awfully familiar.
I own a set of yours and they are great, Except for the red label, Should have got black.

[Colorado700R]

This whole thread has been  hijacked.  The topic of if it is a ripped off design or not should be discussed elsewhere. 
KBR was sent a set of pipes to dyno and he did that. He posted his findings here to help us make informed decisions.
We should give Kam a bit of respect instead of bashing on his thread.
Tim I am sorry if they ripped off your Pipe .
I saw the ones at KBR and thought the looked awfully familiar.
I own a set of yours and they are great, Except for the red label, Should have got black.

Subject has been split, to peserve Kams work 

Thread orgin is here http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?topic=1486.0

[air]

This whole thread has been  hijacked.  The topic of if it is a ripped off design or not should be discussed elsewhere. 
KBR was sent a set of pipes to dyno and he did that. He posted his findings here to help us make informed decisions.
We should give Kam a bit of respect instead of bashing on his thread.
Tim I am sorry if they ripped off your Pipe .
I saw the ones at KBR and thought the looked awfully familiar.
I own a set of yours and they are great, Except for the red label, Should have got black.

Subject has been split, to peserve Kams work 

Thread orgin is here http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?topic=1486.0

Thank you.

[downfour]

sorry for the jack..     but i think it should have been said..      no disrespect to the sponsors selling them..    i however wouldn't sell them..    its one thing to make a product close but to pretty much completely design the product from someone elses and change minor things is bullshit..     just my opinion..