Interesting info on K&N filters

Started by 1raptor, July 29, 2008, 07:12:22 AM

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1raptor

Well after reading this article I gotta say Im gonna think twice about using K&N air Filters
http://www.duramax-diesel.com/spicer/index.htm
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Krandall

Damn.. That is out right pointing @ the fact that the K&N sucks. :help:


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preddy08

Quote from: Krandall on July 29, 2008, 08:44:02 AM
Damn.. That is out right pointing @ the fact that the K&N sucks. :help:

Thats why I dont run then on something that I wont be rebuilding every year.
Just a little 81hp trail bike.


Peelz

Quote from: preddy08 on July 29, 2008, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: Krandall on July 29, 2008, 08:44:02 AM
Damn.. That is out right pointing @ the fact that the K&N sucks. :help:

Thats why I dont run then on something that I wont be rebuilding every year.

Hopefully, having the prefilter helps?

what do you run preddy?
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Peelz

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preddy08

Quote from: Peels660 on July 29, 2008, 10:08:52 AM
Quote from: preddy08 on July 29, 2008, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: Krandall on July 29, 2008, 08:44:02 AM
Damn.. That is out right pointing @ the fact that the K&N sucks. :help:

Thats why I dont run then on something that I wont be rebuilding every year.

Hopefully, having the prefilter helps?

what do you run preddy?

A pre filter will help, but wont get it all.

I run a K&N with a pre filter, only because I will be tearing it down this winter for some more goodies. If I have a bike that I dont want to wrench on for years I would with out a doubt run a twin air.

I have done tear down on two predators both similar builds, one with K&N and one with twin air. both had pre filters too.

The K&N had a shit load of debris on the piston and the  cylinder was in pretty bad shape. the twin air foam filter bike was noticeably cleaner and in better shape.
Just a little 81hp trail bike.


Peelz

Quote from: preddy08 on July 29, 2008, 10:14:29 AM
Quote from: Peels660 on July 29, 2008, 10:08:52 AM
Quote from: preddy08 on July 29, 2008, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: Krandall on July 29, 2008, 08:44:02 AM
Damn.. That is out right pointing @ the fact that the K&N sucks. :help:

Thats why I dont run then on something that I wont be rebuilding every year.

Hopefully, having the prefilter helps?

what do you run preddy?

A pre filter will help, but wont get it all.

I run a K&N with a pre filter, only because I will be tearing it down this winter for some more goodies. If I have a bike that I dont want to wrench on for years I would with out a doubt run a twin air.

I have done tear down on two predators both similar builds, one with K&N and one with twin air. both had pre filters too.

The K&N had a shit load of debris on the piston and the  cylinder was in pretty bad shape. the twin air foam filter bike was noticeably cleaner and in better shape.

$hit! Thanks for the info. I have never read anything bad about k&n before today. I will go twin next time I mod.

+1
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preddy08

Quote from: Peels660 on July 29, 2008, 10:23:05 AM
Quote from: preddy08 on July 29, 2008, 10:14:29 AM
Quote from: Peels660 on July 29, 2008, 10:08:52 AM
Quote from: preddy08 on July 29, 2008, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: Krandall on July 29, 2008, 08:44:02 AM
Damn.. That is out right pointing @ the fact that the K&N sucks. :help:

Thats why I dont run then on something that I wont be rebuilding every year.

Hopefully, having the prefilter helps?

what do you run preddy?

A pre filter will help, but wont get it all.

I run a K&N with a pre filter, only because I will be tearing it down this winter for some more goodies. If I have a bike that I dont want to wrench on for years I would with out a doubt run a twin air.

I have done tear down on two predators both similar builds, one with K&N and one with twin air. both had pre filters too.

The K&N had a shit load of debris on the piston and the  cylinder was in pretty bad shape. the twin air foam filter bike was noticeably cleaner and in better shape.

$hit! Thanks for the info. I have never read anything bad about k&n before today. I will go twin next time I mod.

+1

Foam filters don't flow like K&N,  but there is a reason for that. :thumbs:
Just a little 81hp trail bike.


Peelz

Quote from: preddy08 on July 29, 2008, 10:25:06 AM
Quote from: Peels660 on July 29, 2008, 10:23:05 AM
Quote from: preddy08 on July 29, 2008, 10:14:29 AM
Quote from: Peels660 on July 29, 2008, 10:08:52 AM
Quote from: preddy08 on July 29, 2008, 09:59:35 AM
Quote from: Krandall on July 29, 2008, 08:44:02 AM
Damn.. That is out right pointing @ the fact that the K&N sucks. :help:

Thats why I dont run then on something that I wont be rebuilding every year.

Hopefully, having the prefilter helps?

what do you run preddy?

A pre filter will help, but wont get it all.

I run a K&N with a pre filter, only because I will be tearing it down this winter for some more goodies. If I have a bike that I dont want to wrench on for years I would with out a doubt run a twin air.

I have done tear down on two predators both similar builds, one with K&N and one with twin air. both had pre filters too.

The K&N had a shit load of debris on the piston and the  cylinder was in pretty bad shape. the twin air foam filter bike was noticeably cleaner and in better shape.

$hit! Thanks for the info. I have never read anything bad about k&n before today. I will go twin next time I mod.

+1

Foam filters don't flow like K&N,  but there is a reason for that. :thumbs:

understood.  Just need a good compromise between flow and filtering. Unless for drags, I assume, then go for the best air flow. :thumbs: I get pretty dirty when I ride, so better look into something new.
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Krandall

I say it's totally a toss up. Depends on the terrain your riding. if it's dusty, I switch out to my Uni, if it's rained recently and no dust, I run my K&N w/ prefilter. @ the dunes, I'll be running my K&N. :)

Last time I ran my Uni filter @ the dunes, :O SOOOOOOOOOOOO MUUUUUUUUUUCH SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND stuck in the foam.. :lol:


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Peelz

Quote from: Krandall on July 29, 2008, 10:52:55 AM
I say it's totally a toss up. Depends on the terrain your riding. if it's dusty, I switch out to my Uni, if it's rained recently and no dust, I run my K&N w/ prefilter. @ the dunes, I'll be running my K&N. :)

Last time I ran my Uni filter @ the dunes, :O SOOOOOOOOOOOO MUUUUUUUUUUCH SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND stuck in the foam.. :lol:

same with the k&n. Sand everywhere-it was nasty. I think K&N is good for sand, it is the fine dust of the summer from dry dirt and gravel roads that is worrying me. :help:
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Jamie700R

#12
Ive used K&N on my 660 and now my 700 with a prefilter. Everytime i clean it(which is after every ride) because of extremely dusty conditions, I use a white towel and wipe inside of the intake as far as i can reach. It has always come out clean. They may not be the best application on cars/trucks in dusty conditions as most don't use a prefilter on the street. Until i see some proof inside the intake of dust or dirt getting by ill continue to use one.   Very good read though. :thumbs:

Peelz

Quote from: Jamie700R on July 29, 2008, 11:18:43 AM
Ive used K&N on my 660 and now my 700 with a prefilter. Everytime i clean it(which is after every ride) because of extremely dusty conditions, I use a white towel and wipe inside of the intake as far as i can reach. It has always come out clean. They may not be the best application on cars/trucks in dusty conditions as most don't use a prefilter on the street. Until i see some proof inside the intake of dust or dirt getting by ill continue to use one.   Very good read though. :thumbs:

I'll do that the next time I clean it. Come to think of it. Mine did not look exceptionally dirty.
Krandall: "peelz. I'll be real with you. As much as I hate on you for soccer, I really don't mind it"


Jamie700R

I also run with a EHS airbox lid. I ran without a lid a few times and my airbox was coated in dust and dirt but my intake was still spotless.