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I've been riding my buddies yfz alot, actually more than my own 350... And love how easy i can do wheelies on it. I like riding it on the track and im not sure how it would do on trails, and it does feel very small. Im probably still going to get a 700 so dont shoot me  :lol:   cause i do ride alot more trails than track and want to be comfortable. and i need reverse...

Is it as easy to do wheelies on a 700?

The only thing that limits me on my wheelies is the room that I have. And I ride in a dry riverbed, if thats any indication on how long my wheelies are.

like i keep telling you. the yfz is fine on the trails.

I can't say for a 450, as I've only ridden one 2 times. But it's easy as heck to lift the front end on my rappy.

easy to lift it, hard to hold it. i hate the balance point on these. so what if it wheelies hard? does that mena oyu shouldnt get it lol

I don't think the balance point was hard to find. Especially using the stock radials

the ballence point is all the way back there.

I am still not that great at wheelies on the 700. Put me on a 400EX, Suzuki 400, or a blaster, or even a street bike and I can hold the front up a long time!

I can hold it whole driway way which is 2nd-4th and just run out of room. I could hold it forever :grin_nod:

Quote from: who else but rk on July 07, 2008, 10:46:56 AM
the ballence point is all the way back there.

I bet it back there on that KTM of yours also  :grin_nod: :thumbs:

Michael

hang off the back, sitting on the grabbar and the balance point shifts forward. That was key for me hard to get over wanting to lean over the tank. Easy as pie. Holding it gets tough with the 660=too much torque, twitchy throttle. Second gear wheelies are great.

man all it takes is throttle control and balance all i gotta do is sit back on the seat snap the throttle  hold on and go for as much room as i got

Quote from: thatguy on July 07, 2008, 11:17:18 PM
man all it takes is throttle control and balance all i gotta do is sit back on the seat snap the throttle  hold on and go for as much room as i got

Yep thats pretty much how it goes  :grin_nod:

Michael

Quote from: who else but rk on July 07, 2008, 10:46:56 AM
the ballence point is all the way back there.

So how was the 700 on the track when getting air? Balanced?



Livingmylife93 - I learned to ride wheelies because that's how the Rappy likes it  ;)

 :confused: what do you mean...

I actually found my R1 to be alot easier to wheelie then the raptor. The raptor has a very small balance point area.....if you arent high enough you end up chasing the wheelie, and sooner or later it goes down b/c you are at the rev limiter...or it goes past the BP a little too quickly and the next thing you know your staring at the blue sky. I find it easier though to do stand up wheelies on the raptor eaiser then sit downs. The raptor comes up in 4th gear at like 50 mph too. It prolly heps though that i used to ride wheelies on a 1 liter bike at 90 mph

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0nZCF_2IJs
:thumbs:

WOW, really. I had a hard time with wheelies on my r1. I can litterly ride a wheelie as long as I like on my raptor.

yeah i found when i stood up n the R1, there was alot of room to work with the balance point, and there was enough engine that could put you back up to the balance point if it started to drop a little.

I find with the raptor, once it starts coming down, there isnt much more you can do to bring it back to the BP....but thats just me...i guess everyone is diffrent and has a diffrent comfort zone. I nver dropped my street bike, but managed to end up on the grab bar of my raptor more then once..go figure

Quote from: TimelessR1 on July 08, 2008, 12:33:52 PM
yeah i found when i stood up n the R1, there was alot of room to work with the balance point, and there was enough engine that could put you back up to the balance point if it started to drop a little.

I find with the raptor, once it starts coming down, there isnt much more you can do to bring it back to the BP....but thats just me...i guess everyone is diffrent and has a diffrent comfort zone. I nver dropped my street bike, but managed to end up on the grab bar of my raptor more then once..go figure

My FZ1 is the same way, you can catch the wheelie by giving it more gas. Raptor is either up or down. Staring at the clouds or going back down.

I've rode the YFZ and the Rappy and would say the Rappy 700 is easier. I did ride a Suk 450 and that was a challenge to even get up.

Quote from: TimelessR1 on July 08, 2008, 12:16:05 PM
I actually found my R1 to be alot easier to wheelie then the raptor. The raptor has a very small balance point area.....if you arent high enough you end up chasing the wheelie, and sooner or later it goes down b/c you are at the rev limiter...or it goes past the BP a little too quickly and the next thing you know your staring at the blue sky. I find it easier though to do stand up wheelies on the raptor eaiser then sit downs. The raptor comes up in 4th gear at like 50 mph too. It prolly heps though that i used to ride wheelies on a 1 liter bike at 90 mph

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0nZCF_2IJs
:thumbs:

Really...Cause there is no way possible that it is easier for me to get and stay in the sweet spot of the balance point on my gixxer verses the raptor.  ???  Cause I can slow my wheelies down on the raptor, I guess maybe since I have ended up sliding down the road on my ass at 80+ I never wanted to be at the sweet spot on the bike cause there isn't much room for error.

Michael

Quote from: Peels660 on July 08, 2008, 01:09:12 PM
Raptor is either up or down. Staring at the clouds or going back down.

lol you would know now wouldn't you. those raptors don't like having their grab bars broke off.  :rofl:



i havn't personally road a YFZ but the ones up at silver lake were doing some impressive wheelies up test hill. and like all the others have said the raptor is a wheelie machine you just have to know how to handle it.  :thumbs: