Hey guys, im looking at picking up something to move the toys. Not right away, I just want to settle around a toy hauler or a gooseneck trailer with break area/living area (like Zbroz had at St A's this year).
Who thinks gooseneck with a nice work and break/living area?
Who thinks a toy hauler would be better?
With the gooseneck ill have to trade in my 1500 for a 2500 turbo diesel to move it. With the toy hauler it has one purpose, but it would have all the comforts of home.
Thoughts? Opinions?
I have always wanted to get a nice enclosed trailer, and build my living area in the front of it. Toy haulers are bad ass...but I don't go on enough trips to validate buying one.
I vote enclosed if you don't plan on using it a lot...you'd have a lot more flexibility in the space options. I was looking at toyhaulers and a lot of them barely have any room for quads and work stations. With an enclosed (and don't have to use a gooseneck) you can create a large work area and make the living spaces portable.
I wanted a Toyhauler also but they are more camper than hauler. I don't camp/ride more than once or twice a year so I sold my 7x14 enclosed and ordered a new 2011 8.5x18 enclosed. It will hold 4 quads so we can go as a group on rides with only 1 vehicle. I can use it alot more like moving furniture and stuff like that too. I will sleep in it with an air mattress when I camp. Goosenecks are nice to pull but overkill if you don't really need it.
I'd go toy hauler, there are some nice one......
found a pretty cool one for 42k but i'd have to get a new truck also.
Get a RV and pull an enclosed trailer with it.
Quote from: Spartan727 on August 22, 2010, 12:51:33 PM
Get a RV and pull an enclosed trailer with it.
Ok...um, good idea BALLA
I was suggesting that to mags, sorry :lol: just keeping up the post whoring, Christina
I'd say toyhauler also. Mine hauls 3 full size quads in it. Then you also have the shower, toilet, fridge, stove, generator, AC etc. Once you have one you realize how much it sucked not having one.
I use to have a 28' All American Sport Toy hauler and I hated every second of it. It makes every trip with the camper 2x more expensive. You always take more food than you need. Your MPG will be but in half. You spend more time in the camper than riding. I had to store mine about 20 minutes away (PITA). Cleaning it up afterwords always takes about 2hrs. Your buddys will use it and trash it and not help clean it. Driving with the camper was a TOTAL PAIN and is hard on the truck, even with my dodge diesel. Ours would only hold 2 quads. PITA to winterize, mine always swayed at highway speeds, the list goes on.
The only pro's that I saw was acutal sleeping. Even then it was kind of a con at time. One of the first times we took the camper out he had kinda a late night so we all crashed hard and didn't wake up till 11 O'freeking clock! :rofl: Granted it was a quite camp ground, but still :lol:
I would really like a 16' enclosed trailer and make some flip down cots.
Here's a pic of my old setup.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/preddy08/PICT0061.jpg)
Quote from: preddy08 on August 22, 2010, 06:38:53 PM
I use to have a 28' All American Sport Toy hauler and I hated every second of it. It makes every trip with the camper 2x more expensive. You always take more food than you need. Your MPG will be but in half. You spend more time in the camper than riding. I had to store mine about 20 minutes away (PITA). Cleaning it up afterwords always takes about 2hrs. Your buddys will use it and trash it and not help clean it. Driving with the camper was a TOTAL PAIN and is hard on the truck, even with my dodge diesel. Ours would only hold 2 quads. PITA to winterize, mine always swayed at highway speeds, the list goes on.
The only pro's that I saw was acutal sleeping. Even then it was kind of a con at time. One of the first times we took the camper out he had kinda a late night so we all crashed hard and didn't wake up till 11 O'freeking clock! :rofl: Granted it was a quite camp ground, but still :lol:
I would really like a 16' enclosed trailer and make some flip down cots.
Here's a pic of my old setup.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/preddy08/PICT0061.jpg)
Mine is the same size as yours but fits 3 quads, probably just a different floor plan. I have to agree the towing mpg sucks (about 11) and you have to keep the speeds down due to swaying. Do tend to sleep in too much also but its nice being able to get a good nights sleep. Another downside is you always seem to be working on them, just like a quad. But all the bad points involved I wouldn't ever think of not having one now.
I could only manage about 9 MPG towing that hog :(
Quote from: preddy08 on August 22, 2010, 07:27:34 PM
I could only manage about 9 MPG towing that hog :(
I get right at 11 with mine fully loaded, 3 quads, 130 gallons of water, 25 gallons of gas, somewhere around 10,000 pounds. Truck gets 20+ not pulling anything.
Quote from: Troy31 on August 22, 2010, 08:18:07 PM
Quote from: preddy08 on August 22, 2010, 07:27:34 PM
I could only manage about 9 MPG towing that hog :(
I get right at 11 with mine fully loaded, 3 quads, 130 gallons of water, 25 gallons of gas, somewhere around 10,000 pounds. Truck gets 20+ not pulling anything.
I get 15 city and 18ish highway. Why oh why did I trade my F-150 for this thing. It would pull the trailer strighter than the dodge and suprisingly got 7MPG pulling
Quote from: preddy08 on August 22, 2010, 08:36:33 PM
Quote from: Troy31 on August 22, 2010, 08:18:07 PM
Quote from: preddy08 on August 22, 2010, 07:27:34 PM
I could only manage about 9 MPG towing that hog :(
I get right at 11 with mine fully loaded, 3 quads, 130 gallons of water, 25 gallons of gas, somewhere around 10,000 pounds. Truck gets 20+ not pulling anything.
I get 15 city and 18ish highway. Why oh why did I trade my F-150 for this thing. It would pull the trailer strighter than the dodge and suprisingly got 7MPG pulling
I've got an 07 Classic Duramax, 16+ city 20+ highway on a +90hp tune.
I have no experience with one but I've heard weight distribution hitches do wonders for the swaying. A gooseneck or fifth wheel eliminates that need and will pull better than the bumper pull.
It's not really what you are wanting to do but I'm kicking around the idea of a small ~25' 5th wheel with a 10' utility trailer behind it. In my case, I have plenty of room for crap at my place so I don't have to store anything off site. I have an 18' utility but I'd have to measure the overall length. It is a more cumbersome setup but it's not something I will be hauling around all the time.
It can tow 40,000 pounds....just sayin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2010-33-HAULMARK-3301QS-COLUMBIA-CHASSIS-NO-RESERVE-/330463430142?pt=RVs_Campers
That's a little out of my price range but maybe it can be a VIP give away. I like how there's NO RESERVE (ERMAHGERD!!!) but it starts at over a quarter million anyway. Well no [crap] there's no reserve! :lol:
I'd say go with a enclosed trailer and get some cots. Seems like it would be easier to take care of, clean, store and wouldn't cost so much for gas. Not to mention it would be easier to haul. A toy hauler would be nice if you were going to use it a lot like traveling across country for the better part of a year.
I couldn't justify spending that kinda money for a toy hauler that would only get used once in a while, and an appropriate size truck to haul it, but if you can and that is what you want to do then by gosh just do it! :thumbs:
Good luck in your decision!
Quote from: disco on August 23, 2010, 11:37:41 AM
That's a little out of my price range but maybe it can be a VIP give away. I like how there's NO RESERVE (ERMAHGERD!!!) but it starts at over a quarter million anyway. Well no [crap] there's no reserve! :lol:
But just think about it, you could tow a rail, 8 quads, a rhino and all the gas, gear and tools you could need.
Get one of these. :confused:
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i160/goofballtech/Image%20Hosting%20Temp/photo.jpg)
That's peculiar... kinda cool though.
Disco...no, bad Disco. :rofl:
Going to fast you always get trailer sway when hauling. I like the idea of customizing a gooseneck. It seems like a Toy Hauler is a great idea to take family vacations where you ride some and then you just spend time with family the rest. Maybe I could step back from a gooseneck and go a size down to a regular bumper haul, add a nice living area that is comfortable. I just like what Zbroz had. It was a place to live, microwave, tv and all that, then you have a large work area behind that. I dont want to be hunched over because I cant stand up in my trailer. If I could add a shower system to a trailer then id be set for racing, some of the events are 14+ hour drives and doing that sweaty and mud covered is something im not feeling. Then I can probably also keep a 1500 to haul it, ill just have to upgrade to the HEMI.
Keep talking, I like what im hearing, thanks for your post Preddy, that was good to know!
I thinking of buying one these, instead of the car I would fill it with 4 wheelers. :nod: :nod:
Chris you might think about of these as well, oh its only a million $$$.
I saw one of those on Top Gear.....F'n sweet!!
I'd haul my DBS in there, then pull a double decker trailer with the LS7 sandcar and the quads :nod:
Sounds like this would be perfect for you!
I'm not sure who makes them, but always thought they were a good idea. Its like a toyhauler with more emphasis on toys.
http://omaha.craigslist.org/rvs/1899549479.html
Looks like a Work & Play :thumbs:
Quote from: Colorado700R on August 23, 2010, 06:23:29 PM
Looks like a Work & Play :thumbs:
They are made by Forest River, a very good company IMO. Same company makes Laredo, Cardinal, and Spinnaker.
Quote from: Mad Dog on August 23, 2010, 06:34:08 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on August 23, 2010, 06:23:29 PM
Looks like a Work & Play :thumbs:
They are made by Forest River, a very good company IMO. Same company makes Laredo, Cardinal, and Spinnaker.
My old camper was a Forest River All American Sport 28'. All and all a very nice sturdy camper.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-US-Cargo-Phantom-Limited-49-Toy-Hauler-/320572169658?pt=RVs_Campers
This is really what I want....
Shaggin' Wagon! :clap:
Mike, that is exactly what im talking about when I say gooseneck. I need a place to sleep and work and race from :)
Quote from: Alkire193 on August 23, 2010, 10:29:04 PM
Mike, that is exactly what im talking about when I say gooseneck. I need a place to sleep and work and race from :)
You would need atleast a one ton dually diesel to pull that.
If you do end up getting a larger truck, I'd shop by GCWR if you're going to pull something big. Everybody drives around overweight anyway but that's your call. *cough* been there, done that. *cough*
By the book, my truck has a GCWR of 20,000#. The truck itself is ~7100# empty. Add four guys and gear so say 1000# and lets me pull 11,900#. Now say I add an 45 gallon auxiliary tank at 400# (fuel 315, tank 85), four quads @ 1600#, everything just whittles away at your capacity.
truck 7100 12900 remaining payload
gear/guys 1000 11900
aux fuel (dsl) 400 11500
four quads 1600 9900
F-650 Turbo Diesel with the motor from a locomotive fed on the tears of gingers everywhere?
Most enclosed trailers have a lower floor than a toy hauler so if you are adding living area to a enclosed there is not much room to add water tanks under the floor.
I brought an enclosed and added a counter with drawers on the front wall.
Quote from: disco on August 24, 2010, 09:45:29 AM
If you do end up getting a larger truck, I'd shop by GCWR if you're going to pull something big. Everybody drives around overweight anyway but that's your call. *cough* been there, done that. *cough*
By the book, my truck has a GCWR of 20,000#. The truck itself is ~7100# empty. Add four guys and gear so say 1000# and lets me pull 11,900#. Now say I add an 45 gallon auxiliary tank at 400# (fuel 315, tank 85), four quads @ 1600#, everything just whittles away at your capacity.
truck 7100 12900 remaining payload
gear/guys 1000 11900
aux fuel (dsl) 400 11500
four quads 1600 9900
This is something very few people consider. I'm very surprised that the highway patrol doesn't enforce it. You can spot them on the road pretty easily, especially when it's just a 3/4 ton truck pulling a huge 5th wheel trailer.
Quote from: XC_Raptor700R on August 28, 2010, 07:19:29 AM
Quote from: disco on August 24, 2010, 09:45:29 AM
If you do end up getting a larger truck, I'd shop by GCWR if you're going to pull something big. Everybody drives around overweight anyway but that's your call. *cough* been there, done that. *cough*
By the book, my truck has a GCWR of 20,000#. The truck itself is ~7100# empty. Add four guys and gear so say 1000# and lets me pull 11,900#. Now say I add an 45 gallon auxiliary tank at 400# (fuel 315, tank 85), four quads @ 1600#, everything just whittles away at your capacity.
truck 7100 12900 remaining payload
gear/guys 1000 11900
aux fuel (dsl) 400 11500
four quads 1600 9900
This is something very few people consider. I'm very surprised that the highway patrol doesn't enforce it. You can spot them on the road pretty easily, especially when it's just a 3/4 ton truck pulling a huge 5th wheel trailer.
They have been running checks on the highway heading to ocotillo wells and glamis. Even if you've done mods to handle the weight they just go off the rating.
I had no idea that it was a ticket-able offense to drag a load over what your truck is rated. So my 1500 pulling a gooseneck will probably get nailed? haha
Funyun?
He's hiding in the hauler
http://cosprings.craigslist.org/rvs/1928768648.html
Quote from: Colorado700R on September 02, 2010, 05:45:03 PM
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Must have been sold already.
Was a big enclosed for 6500. Looked like a steal of a deal
:( Could have been parked in my driveway....
there are lots of big enclosed trailers down here in FL for sale...I've seen a 24-26 footer go for 4-4500 bucks.
gunny is selling his 24'er that Alkerie made a mess in :P
HEY! yea....that was my bad. All that oil needs some cat litter to get up, I just couldnt get it up on my own (let the jokes commence). I blame Randy, just sayin....
What will Mike do for a trailer if he sells his 24ft?