Hey guys, I'm posting this up for 2 reasons...
1. How many would be interested in a Carbon Fiber hood.
2. Do you like this hood if you're interested in a CF hood? (If not.. What style/kind are you looking for?)
(http://store.albaaction.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/large/RAP700-HOOD-BK.jpg)
Quote from: Krandall on August 28, 2008, 08:21:09 AM
Hey guys, I'm posting this up for 2 reasons...
1. How many would be interested in a Carbon Fiber hood.
2. Do you like this hood if you're interested in a CF hood? (If not.. What style/kind are you looking for?)
I have been real close to buying that for my rappy, but its hard to justify the cost! That and my rappy is pretty ugly as shit and that would stick out like a sore thumb.
I like the idea. But I'm not a fan of the open style grill. I like the fins that the raptor grill has.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on August 28, 2008, 08:27:17 AM
I like the idea. But I'm not a fan of the open style grill. I like the fins that the raptor grill has.
+1
Where's the minus one symbol?? ??? ??? I like the open hood!!
Quote from: dmx434343 on August 28, 2008, 08:56:16 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on August 28, 2008, 08:27:17 AM
I like the idea. But I'm not a fan of the open style grill. I like the fins that the raptor grill has.
+1
+1
Or a skull and flames instead of the grill area
not sure, but they may just be an outer shell whereas you could use a the stock or custom grill gaurd underneath.
Aaron
Stock style raptor hood but in CF.
8) Keep the ideas flowing.. I'm here with a pencil and paper jotting down all input!
Jay :grin_nod:
Quote from: powder coater on August 28, 2008, 09:34:31 AM
Stock style raptor hood but in CF.
Thats just what I'm thinking.
But I would like to see the mesh in-between the "fins".
or maybe some blade looking fins behind the CF fins. know what i mena?
Quote from: dmx434343 on August 28, 2008, 10:59:36 AM
or maybe some blade looking fins behind the CF fins. know what i mena?
??? nope
You have to draw it out for krandall. He wears the foam helmet for a reason.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on August 28, 2008, 12:53:48 PM
You have to draw it out for krandall. He wears the foam helmet for a reason.
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Thats our boy!
:rofl: :rofl:
I like the 5-point seat belt for his office chair!!
Saftey first :clap:
Back on topic, I like the idea of having a second grill gaurd :thumbs:
I really want that hood, but no way in hell am I gonna take off my blue CF hood and put on a black one, especially when my tank cover matches my hood. Now if some one would make a blue one for my bike I'd buy it in a heart beat.
I just had mine painted to look like carbon fiber
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/vermin99/P1020204.jpg)
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Man that looks good. I like black open one too. I'm looking for the red hood and tank topper.
Quote from: vermin88 on August 28, 2008, 10:07:13 PM
I just had mine painted to look like carbon fiber
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/vermin99/P1020204.jpg)
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/vermin99/P1020205.jpg)
Ok, I'm sold. What did that set you back?
I wonder how all this cool stuff and us guys buying it ??? :rolleyes: effects the divorce rate ?? LOL
Quote from: fastraptor on August 29, 2008, 09:49:56 AM
I wonder how all this cool stuff and us guys buying it ??? :rolleyes: effects the divorce rate ?? LOL
It helps mine.
When work or life gets me down she sends me to the dunes.
My wife feel it is still cheaper than conventional therapy, and you do not have to blame all your problems on your parents.
I was sourcing material for this project last week, here's my version
I like the Raptor stock hood fins
I would like to keep my hood & insert guards in between each hood fin
I would like the guard be mounted flush with the outside of the fins.
Does that make sense?
Excuse my art work but this is what I mean :lol:
It would be nice if the guard had holes small enough to stop ice racing screws, similiar to 1/4 self tap sheet metal screws
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I get what your sayin!!! Nice job paintshop'in 8)
I edited my hood design since the stock hood only has 2 fins :lol:
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you red my mind, that exactly what I was thinking. I would like to see a few different mesh ideas.
I think thats what he was tryin to say bert, i dig that design too :thumbs:
I've got a stocker coming for mockup. If you guys are serious about wanting something like this, I can make it up. Price will be around $170 in 2x2 twill 3k carbon fiber. ( A lot nicer quality than the one pictured which is standard weave )
THanks, Jay
I am in no way trying to harpoon anyone's idea.
But if you can find a hood for an '06 SE Raptor you'll have both the stock fins and the carbon fiber look. And it holds up to anything regular plastic would.
I wish Yamaha would make all the black plastic out of the same stuff. After 2 years and hundreds of miles in just about every type of weather it still looks new.
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Thats what I was thinking headrope. All that is is a stock 06 Se hood with a grill insert.
I would much rather see an open hood!!
Preddy - what do you mean? Open like a stock hood...
Quote from: Bert on August 30, 2008, 09:56:41 PM
Preddy - what do you mean? Open like a stock hood...
I think he means like the one from Alba 8)
Ah. Got it.
... and sorry those redneck "researchers" got everyone all excited . I'm sure you get enough attention riding quads without all the Bigfoot hunters trying to catch you.
I realize there are only so many options but have they all been explored?
I think more brainstorming is needed, quit holding out & post up :lol:
I have a few other ideas. I'll do a little draw up tonight when I get home. :)
I like the carbon fiber look!! :nana:
Is the 660 hood the same as the 700? I've got a first version that should be done in a couple weeks.
Thanks, Jay
No, the 660 and 700 are different. And the 700 is different for 09.
Damn that sucks. So what would we a popular one to make? I do not want to invest too much of my time into something that will not be wanted.
Thanks, jay
I think your best bet would be to stick with the 06-08 700. This is by far the most common right now.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on September 11, 2008, 08:46:20 AM
I think your best bet would be to stick with the 06-08 700. This is by far the most common right now.
+1
I would love a carbon fiber hood but...I will probably go ahead and upgrade to the 700 before that! :grin_nod:
Well I'll have a Carbon fiber 660 raptor hood done in a few days. It will be available so if anyone wants to claim it let me know. I'll have pics of it soon.
Jay
i will work on one for the 06-08 style
Jay, do you guys offer that CF 700 hood in any other colors? I like the CF look, but I think the greyish silver may not match up on my blue raptor with high gloss black accents.
Looks like I'll be putting the 06-08 Raptor CF hood into production. I know this sounds like awhile, but ETA for finished hood looks like Dec 1 or sooner.
Jay
Damn you! I'm getting ready to buy one now!!
Very sweet Jay! :clap:
December 1 is pretty freaking soon if you ask me!!!
I can't wait to see the finished product, can you give us any hints? :clap: :clap: :clap:
Nice work, keep us posted.
Its gonna be pretty close to a stock look, maybe with a mesh grill though. From what I gathered, it sounds like alot of guys want the original look. We'll see, I've still got it here to make changes. The hood might get pushed back a little since this week is shot for me to work on it, but I'm gonna get rockin' on it next week and get it in for molding.
Jay
I'll be waiting...keep us updated. I'm sure I'll be one of the first buyers :grin_nod: i got money just laying around for the rappie and i wanna spruce up the looks
If you want the stock look but in carbon filber just get the 06 se hood.
I'm sure it will look even better then that.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on September 17, 2008, 09:38:09 AM
I'm sure it will look even better then that.
If I want a CF hood (which I do) I want something that looks different than stock. Why pay big bucks for an item that could be bought from maier for 70 bucks?
I'm a fan of the Alba one. But I think it'd be cool to see something similar to the 250r hoods. full shield basically, w a nice intake spot?
don't know how it'd look on the rappy because the 250r is more flat vs the rappy being more verticle.
it would be nice to have a sick ass carbon fiber hood if you plan on gettin some secret carbon fiber pipes
Alba
(http://store.albaaction.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/large/RAP700-HOOD-BK.jpg)
vermin88 - Carbon Fiber (painted)
(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/vermin99/P1020204.jpg)
1st pic - O6 SE Hood
2nd pic - modified Alba Hood
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I'm sending a PM to Busby :thumbs:
ok what ya need me for ?
bert, the vermin ones...are they painted to look cf or are they cf painted blue. EIther way...SICK! I want that!
I like the stock look of the raptor, and I don't want to change it's lines. I have carbon fiber accents on my streetbike, too.
Busby would you mind knocking out some designs of Carbon Fiber hoods?
Your ideas Rock 8)
Peels - vermins is OEM paint & the modified Alba is .. ???
Quote from: Bert on September 17, 2008, 06:40:03 PM
Busby would you mind knocking out some designs of Carbon Fiber hoods?
Your ideas Rock 8)
Peels - vermins is OEM paint & the modified Alba is .. ???
how is the pattern on there? is it carbon fiber? If so...$$$$$$$ yikes, but looks like it is worth it!
when you say designs do you mean things like tribal but with a carbon look to them ?
how is the pattern on there? is it carbon fiber? If so...$$$$$$$ yikes, but looks like it is worth it!
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If you was asking me this peels then it is hard to tell with a photo I have seen some things from a distance that look like carbon but when you get close to them they are just a sticker, the problem with printing now days is that resolution can be set so high and with 10 colour shades being printed into one area you can almost make anything look like the real thing.
I was askin bert, he posted it. Maybe you should go to bed! :lol: Now..it is 10 til midnight in the UK! :lol:
:lol: maybe you should look again at the clock it is 01:54AM :P
Busby I reposted some pics on page 4. After seeing your T-shirt designs I figured you would have some great ideas for a new Raptor hood.
Quote from: Busby on September 17, 2008, 06:54:14 PM
:lol: maybe you should look again at the clock it is 01:54AM :P
I am wrong again :lol:
Quote from: Bert on September 17, 2008, 06:57:27 PM
Busby I reposted some pics on page 4. After seeing your T-shirt designs I figured you would have some great ideas for a new Raptor hood.
I dont mind putting some things together as long as I am not going to be treading on someone's toe's.... But and this is a big BUT I don't know if my designs would be good enough to keep the balance of airflow right for the radiator.... If you guy's want me to put together something design wise what I will do is change the venting slots at the front but I I need a basic shell to work with so I would need someone to post a full frontal picture that I could then start to work with.
Let me know what you guys ???
Quote from: Krandall on August 28, 2008, 08:21:09 AM
Hey guys, I'm posting this up for 2 reasons...
1. How many would be interested in a Carbon Fiber hood.
2. Do you like this hood if you're interested in a CF hood? (If not.. What style/kind are you looking for?)
(http://store.albaaction.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/large/RAP700-HOOD-BK.jpg)
I think your good to go
ok you guys are gonna have to try and picture the way this is going to look when it is on the hood as I can't do 3D stuff, with each of these you would obviously have the grill guard behind it so that it would continue to protect the rad.
Also some of the design on the 1st image would have to be changed slightly.
If these are nothing like what you was hoping for then I am sorry that I couldn't do something more creative but I wasn't 100% sure what was being asked of me.
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a364/busbyeie/grillfront.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a364/busbyeie/grillfront1.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a364/busbyeie/grillfront2.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a364/busbyeie/grillhood3.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a364/busbyeie/grillhood4.jpg)
Alright maybe I'm losing it, but I guess I'll just toss this out there. FourWerx makes REAL carbon fiber products. We do not use "carbon fiber coatings' or anything of that matter. We are one of the few companies out there who believe that there is an actual use for carbon fiber/ titanium / and other lightweight products. If you are just wanting the "carbon fiber Look" ( even though it looks nothing like carbon fiber when printed ) then go with Maier or Quadtech who are just making fake looking parts.
Now if you actually care about running the real thing, come to me as I can do that. Quality is huge with FourWerx and you'll get nothing but that from us. I know there is a concern with $ being spent on certain parts, but you DO get what you pay for and you can't expect to pay for mild steel and get GOLD.
Jay
Quote from: FourWerx on September 18, 2008, 09:37:19 AM
Alright maybe I'm losing it, but I guess I'll just toss this out there. FourWerx makes REAL carbon fiber products. We do not use "carbon fiber coatings' or anything of that matter. We are one of the few companies out there who believe that there is an actual use for carbon fiber/ titanium / and other lightweight products. If you are just wanting the "carbon fiber Look" ( even though it looks nothing like carbon fiber when printed ) then go with Maier or Quadtech who are just making fake looking parts.
Now if you actually care about running the real thing, come to me as I can do that. Quality is huge with FourWerx and you'll get nothing but that from us. I know there is a concern with $ being spent on certain parts, but you DO get what you pay for and you can't expect to pay for mild steel and get GOLD.
Jay
+1 Totally agree.
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on September 18, 2008, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: FourWerx on September 18, 2008, 09:37:19 AM
Alright maybe I'm losing it, but I guess I'll just toss this out there. FourWerx makes REAL carbon fiber products. We do not use "carbon fiber coatings' or anything of that matter. We are one of the few companies out there who believe that there is an actual use for carbon fiber/ titanium / and other lightweight products. If you are just wanting the "carbon fiber Look" ( even though it looks nothing like carbon fiber when printed ) then go with Maier or Quadtech who are just making fake looking parts.
Now if you actually care about running the real thing, come to me as I can do that. Quality is huge with FourWerx and you'll get nothing but that from us. I know there is a concern with $ being spent on certain parts, but you DO get what you pay for and you can't expect to pay for mild steel and get GOLD.
Jay
+1 Totally agree.
agreed....That is what i was wondering. My only concern, is that I keep the Raptor's factory lines.
Now, go make an entire carbon fiber body kit. How sweet(expensive) would that be! :thumbs:
Stealth Raptor! Had that daydream many times...All blacked out!
Just want to say that I only used a carbon look so you guys could get a rough idea & I am in no way able to use carbon fibre I only did a few designs but at the end of the day it is fourwerx that will say what happens as they know what they are doing and I don't 8)
Ok, well never mind. Guess I was way off base here :mad:
Any Idea on weight savings with you CF hoods?
I'm not trying to get on anyones case, especially you Bugsby. You do good work! :thumbs:
My main point was just to tell you guys that I do not do the "look" thing.. I do the real thing. There were a couple guys that were talking about carbon fiber coatings, and I just do not go that route.
Basically with a carbon fiber hood, your looking at a few ounces of savings over plastic. Weight is weight though, and between the look and weight savings its worth the $.
Jay
Not to mention that Carbon Fibre looks the nutts too, my buddy had a Ducati that had Carbon Fibre panels all over it and the thing looked really sweet.
Only other thing I like the look of more then Carbon Fibre is Kevlar.
I know you wasn't getting on my case Fourwerx I was just pointing out that you know what has to be done with Carbon Fibre when it comes down to manufacturing as where I don't ;) :thumbs:
I was a bit excited when I pm'd Busby about throwing out some design ideas. I didn't mean to step on your toes Jay. With the 700 being a high sales quad I beleive the market is waiting for FourWerx to raise the bar :)
I just want to thank those of you who understand the meaning of quality and functionality in a part. I myself do not own a raptor, but I do take great passion for the sport and installing a quality part onto my machines and those of my customers is the highest satisfaction I could recieve. When planning out my builds I'm always taking into consideration the factors that come into play throughout my entire machine. If I'm running a high quality exhaust, i do not want to mix in cheap other parts to take away from my build. This is why I use only the best available products, and let me tell you.. there is nothing more eye catching than a real carbon fiber product.
Bugsby, what kind of Duc does you friend have? I have an 08 Ducati 848 and its going thru the entire CF treatment right now. It'll be 99% full carbon fiber bodywork, along with a full Carbon fiber/Kevlar fuel tank. :) Can't wait!!!
Jay
Jay,
Would CF skid plates survive?
Quote from: FourWerx on September 19, 2008, 09:36:53 AM
Bugsby, what kind of Duc does you friend have? I have an 08 Ducati 848 and its going thru the entire CF treatment right now. It'll be 99% full carbon fiber bodywork, along with a full Carbon fiber/Kevlar fuel tank. :) Can't wait!!!
Jay
:confused: Check the name :rofl:
He had a Duc 916 if i remember right, he spent loads on it then sold it and went over to super moto now he just rides a naked kawa as his normal means of getting to and from work.
Your 848 should look sweet when it has been done. It is amazing how just a few carbon fibre parts make a massive change in just looks.
Sorry about that Busby....
And CF skidplate DO hold up. I have run a few on a trx and also have a couple out there in circulation for YFZ's.
Jay
Quote from: FourWerx on September 19, 2008, 11:41:04 AM
Sorry about that Busby....
And CF skidplate DO hold up. I have run a few on a trx and also have a couple out there in circulation for YFZ's.
Jay
How much would it be for a set (Engine and swinger Skid) for a 700?
Aaron
I'd like a full body skid for the YFZ Jay. Let me know when and how much to pay you.
I'm gonna stay out of the line of skidplates for the time being with all of these other things going on. If you can make me a template I can cut something out for ya as long as its flat, otherwise I'm sorry right now I just can't take that project on.
Jay
Quote from: FourWerx on September 19, 2008, 01:47:33 PM
I'm gonna stay out of the line of skidplates for the time being with all of these other things going on. If you can make me a template I can cut something out for ya as long as its flat, otherwise I'm sorry right now I just can't take that project on.
Jay
Crap :'(
If you change you mind later, let me know :thumbs:
Quote from: FourWerx on September 19, 2008, 11:41:04 AM
Sorry about that Busby....
And CF skidplate DO hold up. I have run a few on a trx and also have a couple out there in circulation for YFZ's.
Jay
:lol: np bud happens more times then I can remember and it isn't the worst thing i have been called by a long shot :rofl:
Hood looks good, when I decide to put plastics back on the Raptor this winter I may think about getting it.
Hey Jay,
do you by chance have a sneak peak design for us? :D
I'm jonesin over here!
pm'd you Krandall.....
Hoods coming soon. Only making two to start, and Krandall has first dibs.
If you guys would like to make a special group order, I can do that. With the amount of work I've got for the KTM stuff right now, Its looking like a 30 day window for any new orders unless I have openings.
I do not have any pics, but they are basically going to be factory shaped 07 style hoods made from CarbonFiber...
Pricing is set at $162.00 per hood.
Thanks, Jay @ FourWerx
Any chance i can have a look at the preview hood,as i may be interested in buying :grin_nod: :thumbs:
No sneek peeks sorry guys! ;) but here are some of my other parts that I've been working on....
Heatshield Piece for KTM:
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w176/FourWerx/SDC11061.jpg)
KFX400 Hood:
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w176/FourWerx/PICT0137.jpg)
YFZ Hood:
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w176/FourWerx/PICT0135.jpg)
Quote from: FourWerx on October 09, 2008, 08:41:54 PM
No sneek peeks sorry guys! ;) but here are some of my other parts that I've been working on....
Heatshield Piece for KTM:
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w176/FourWerx/SDC11061.jpg)
KFX400 Hood:
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w176/FourWerx/PICT0137.jpg)
YFZ Hood:
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w176/FourWerx/PICT0135.jpg)
Those pieces look very nice :grin_nod: :thumbs:
Looks like more of my hard earned cash will be leaving my pocket when the raptor hood is finished :lol: :rofl:
Quote from: FourWerx on October 07, 2008, 06:32:20 PM
pm'd you Krandall.....
Hoods coming soon. Only making two to start, and Krandall has first dibs.
If you guys would like to make a special group order, I can do that. With the amount of work I've got for the KTM stuff right now, Its looking like a 30 day window for any new orders unless I have openings.
I do not have any pics, but they are basically going to be factory shaped 07 style hoods made from CarbonFiber...
Pricing is set at $162.00 per hood.
Thanks, Jay @ FourWerx
Hey jay, do you by any chance know sandjunkie from the ktm forum ?? He does the carbon fiber dipping of all plastics and boy does it look awsome !!!
Yea i know who that is, but you have to understand by you comparing my work to that of "dipped" CF coating, its an insult to me. I do REAL stuff, not fake carbon.
I've built show quality machines time and time again, and would never get to that point with having FAKE carbon fiber. Only real stuff here, sorry....
Jay
Quote from: FourWerx on October 14, 2008, 09:22:54 PM
Yea i know who that is, but you have to understand by you comparing my work to that of "dipped" CF coating, its an insult to me. I do REAL stuff, not fake carbon.
I've built show quality machines time and time again, and would never get to that point with having FAKE carbon fiber. Only real stuff here, sorry....
Jay
Sorry, I did not mean to sound like I was trying to compair you to him!!!
Was just currious if ya new him???
Please don't get me wrong I do think the stuff you are showing is awsome as well, and am still looking at all avenues.
I am not going back to cf on my rappy due to the chipping factor, so I am indeed looking hard at the product you are offering.
WAS NOT TRYING TO INSULT YOU :(