I had went through and set the sag ETC. butonly bottomed out either going into a whoop or coming out of it. but it rides really rough no matter what i change.I think the lowering kit took travel outta my suspension along with taking ground clearance. just not real sure. the trails we ride are real rocky and rough on the flat it felt good.plus i like the lowering kit for hillclimbing and added stability. it has the stance of a yfz right now.also helps keep the front end down better than a stocker