The Scion Tc and the Rappy (Finally)

[who else but rk]

false.
superchargers dont have to spool something up so they produce power alot faster then the every day turbo
ever herd of turbo lag?   
and the trd does not void warrenty.
the whine? thats the sound of bad ass
do you really thing " man that sounds nice" when you here a " vvvvvvvrrrrrrrraaaaaaaammmmmm PSSHHH" in a whiney 4 cylinder sound? i kno i dont

[kyledvor61]

false.
superchargers dont have to spool something up so they produce power alot faster then the every day turbo
ever herd of turbo lag?   
and the trd does not void warrenty.
the whine? thats the sound of bad ass
do you really thing " man that sounds nice" when you here a " vvvvvvvrrrrrrrraaaaaaaammmmmm PSSHHH" in a whiney 4 cylinder sound? i kno i dont

whenever my neighbor gets a mercedes he gets supercharged or naturally aspirated since theres no lag like the turbo models :grin_nod:

[who else but rk]

and there are no turbo model mercedes besides deisel lol

[Krandall]

Turbos on  4cyl motors arent all bad. Look @ the STi's

[Colorado700R]

false.
superchargers dont have to spool something up so they produce power alot faster then the every day turbo
ever herd of turbo lag?   
and the trd does not void warrenty.
the whine? thats the sound of bad ass
do you really thing " man that sounds nice" when you here a " vvvvvvvrrrrrrrraaaaaaaammmmmm PSSHHH" in a whiney 4 cylinder sound? i kno i dont

Turbos build 3 times the boost of Superchargers, and do not tax the motor while doing it  

[kyledvor61]

and there are no turbo model mercedes besides deisel lol

i thought there were some in the S, SL, or CL class, im toolazy to look

[Jester2893]

false.
superchargers dont have to spool something up so they produce power alot faster then the every day turbo
ever herd of turbo lag?   
and the trd does not void warrenty.
the whine? thats the sound of bad ass
do you really thing " man that sounds nice" when you here a " vvvvvvvrrrrrrrraaaaaaaammmmmm PSSHHH" in a whiney 4 cylinder sound? i kno i dont

Efficiency
This is the turbo's biggest advantage. The turbocharger is generally more economical to operate as it as it is driven primarily by potential energy in the exhaust gasses that would otherwise be lost out the exhaust, whereas a supercharger draws power from the crank, which can be used to turn the wheels. The turbocharger's impeller is also powered only under boost conditions, so there is less parasitic drag while the impeller is not spinning. The turbocharger, however, is not free of inefficiency as it does create additional exhaust backpressure and exhaust flow interruption.

Surge
Because a turbocharger first spools up before the boost is delivered to the engine, there is a surge of power that is delivered immediately when the wastegate opens (around 3000 rpm).


Noise
The turbocharger is generally quiter than the supercharger. Because the turbo's turbine is in the exhaust, the turbo can substantially reduce exhaust noise, making the engine run quieter. Some centrifugal superchargers are known to be noisy and whistley which, annoys some drivers (we, however, love it!)



Maximum Power Output
Turbos are known for their unique ability to spin to incredibly high rpms and make outrages peak boost figures (25psi+). While operating a turbocharger at very high levels of boost requires major modifications to the rest of the engine, the turbo is capable of producing more peak power than superchargers.


Conclusion

While the supercharger is generally considered to be a better method of forced induction for most street and race vehicles, the turbo will always have its place in a more specialized market. Superchargers generally provide a much broader powerband that most drivers are looking for with no "turbo lag". In addition, they are much easier to install and tune, making them more practical for a home or novice mechan

Yes turbos spool later, but when they spool there able to give a more boost of power the superchargers. I happen to like turbos in 4 cylinders, and I like superchargers in drag cars.

[Jester2893]

Turbos on  4cyl motors arent all bad. Look @ the STi's SRT4's

[kyledvor61]

false.
superchargers dont have to spool something up so they produce power alot faster then the every day turbo
ever herd of turbo lag?   
and the trd does not void warrenty.
the whine? thats the sound of bad ass
do you really thing " man that sounds nice" when you here a " vvvvvvvrrrrrrrraaaaaaaammmmmm PSSHHH" in a whiney 4 cylinder sound? i kno i dont

Efficiency
This is the turbo's biggest advantage. The turbocharger is generally more economical to operate as it as it is driven primarily by potential energy in the exhaust gasses that would otherwise be lost out the exhaust, whereas a supercharger draws power from the crank, which can be used to turn the wheels. The turbocharger's impeller is also powered only under boost conditions, so there is less parasitic drag while the impeller is not spinning. The turbocharger, however, is not free of inefficiency as it does create additional exhaust backpressure and exhaust flow interruption.

Surge
Because a turbocharger first spools up before the boost is delivered to the engine, there is a surge of power that is delivered immediately when the wastegate opens (around 3000 rpm).


Noise
The turbocharger is generally quiter than the supercharger. Because the turbo's turbine is in the exhaust, the turbo can substantially reduce exhaust noise, making the engine run quieter. Some centrifugal superchargers are known to be noisy and whistley which, annoys some drivers (we, however, love it!)



Maximum Power Output
Turbos are known for their unique ability to spin to incredibly high rpms and make outrages peak boost figures (25psi+). While operating a turbocharger at very high levels of boost requires major modifications to the rest of the engine, the turbo is capable of producing more peak power than superchargers.


Conclusion

While the supercharger is generally considered to be a better method of forced induction for most street and race vehicles, the turbo will always have its place in a more specialized market. Superchargers generally provide a much broader powerband that most drivers are looking for with no "turbo lag". In addition, they are much easier to install and tune, making them more practical for a home or novice mechan

Yes turbos spool later, but when they spool there able to give a more boost of power the superchargers. I happen to like turbos in 4 cylinders, and I like superchargers in drag cars.

I like superchargers in drag cars

[who else but rk]

false.
superchargers dont have to spool something up so they produce power alot faster then the every day turbo
ever herd of turbo lag?   
and the trd does not void warrenty.
the whine? thats the sound of bad ass
do you really thing " man that sounds nice" when you here a " vvvvvvvrrrrrrrraaaaaaaammmmmm PSSHHH" in a whiney 4 cylinder sound? i kno i dont

Efficiency
This is the turbo's biggest advantage. The turbocharger is generally more economical to operate as it as it is driven primarily by potential energy in the exhaust gasses that would otherwise be lost out the exhaust, whereas a supercharger draws power from the crank, which can be used to turn the wheels. The turbocharger's impeller is also powered only under boost conditions, so there is less parasitic drag while the impeller is not spinning. The turbocharger, however, is not free of inefficiency as it does create additional exhaust backpressure and exhaust flow interruption.

Surge
Because a turbocharger first spools up before the boost is delivered to the engine, there is a surge of power that is delivered immediately when the wastegate opens (around 3000 rpm).


Noise
The turbocharger is generally quiter than the supercharger. Because the turbo's turbine is in the exhaust, the turbo can substantially reduce exhaust noise, making the engine run quieter. Some centrifugal superchargers are known to be noisy and whistley which, annoys some drivers (we, however, love it!)



Maximum Power Output
Turbos are known for their unique ability to spin to incredibly high rpms and make outrages peak boost figures (25psi+). While operating a turbocharger at very high levels of boost requires major modifications to the rest of the engine, the turbo is capable of producing more peak power than superchargers.


Conclusion

While the supercharger is generally considered to be a better method of forced induction for most street and race vehicles, the turbo will always have its place in a more specialized market. Superchargers generally provide a much broader powerband that most drivers are looking for with no "turbo lag". In addition, they are much easier to install and tune, making them more practical for a home or novice mechan

Yes turbos spool later, but when they spool there able to give a more boost of power the superchargers. I happen to like turbos in 4 cylinders, and I like superchargers in drag cars.

yea did you even read the conclusion?
its a better way. shure a turbo may be more green but if you want green just get a damn prius.
i guess i should step out of this argument because i hate 4 cylinders. we both had vallid points and there both good.
end
of
story
srt4s
are
verry
gay
tho

[Bert]

RK - its not about turbo's being green 
Superchargers offer parasitic loss to your engine (ie: crankshaft)
Turbo's are almost like free power

[Jester2893]

  Turbos are green?

Do you mean money? Turbos are cheaper then superchargers.
Honestly depending on your application one is going to be better then the other.
Drag cars use superchargers because they need boost ASAP!
Street cars/tuners use turbos because its what its all about. Getting the most power out of a 4 banger.

[who else but rk]

since they use exaust gases, more green.
all in all
4 cylinders no mater what are gay
6 - turbo
8- supercharged
v10- turbo  :grin_nod: ( fastest )
12- turbo
14- who the FERK makes a 14?
16- the 2 modern 16 cylinders i kno are turbo

[Krandall]

since they use exaust gases, more green.
all in all
4 cylinders no mater what are  :fruity:
6 - turbo
8- supercharged
v10- turbo  :grin_nod: ( fastest )
12- turbo
14- who the F ck makes a 14?
16- the 2 modern 16 cylinders i kno are turbo

4 cyl might be gay.. but, how come that's what all the rally cars are pretty much?

[who else but rk]

there all euro q.u.e.e.r.s