Paddle Tire Rollout/paddle count/gearing/ swingarm length...

[Peelz]

mind has officially blown.

I was about to say this....

"you ever see that scene in scanners, when they guy's head blows up?"

[Quadracers]

Thanks Guys!

I know it's alot of info to process, if you have questions feel free to ask. Glad to contribute.

Here's a little more info, these are starting points only. Final set up adjustments must be done at the track or destination of your choosing. Don't forget tire pressure is also a key ingredient in completing your set up package. Never disregard a tire until you have played with the pressure. Start at 6 psi and work your way down, you will find the sweet spot somewhere between 3 - 6 psi if you are paddled correctly.

Duner
Raptor) stock - 60 HP, 70 - 72 rollout 7 paddle Hauler 8"x 8" rim, stock - +4" swingarm, 14 x 38 gearing.

Raptor) 60 - 70 HP, 70 - 72 rollout 7 - 8 paddle Hauler 8" x 8" rim, +6" swingarm, 14 - 15 x 38.

Raptor) 70 - 80 HP, 70 - 72 rollout 7 - 9 paddle Hauler 8" x 8" rim, +6" - 8" swingarm, 15 x 38 gearing.

Raptor) 80 - 90 HP, 70 - 72 rollout 7 - 10 paddle Hauler 8" x 8" rim, +8" swingarm, 15 x 38 gearing.

Hillshooter
Raptor) stock - 60 HP, 72 - 74 rollout 7 - 8 paddle Hauler 8" x 7" rim, +4" - 6" swingarm, (8"x 7" rim will give you 1 1/2 more rollout), 14 x 38 gearing.

Raptor) 60 - 70 HP, 72 - 74 rollout 7 - 9 paddle Hauler 8" x 7" rim, +6" swingarm, 15 x 38 gearing.

Raptor) 70 - 80 HP, 76 - 80 rollout 8 - 10 paddle Hauler 9" x 8" rim, +8" swingarm, 15 x 38 - 40 gearing.

Raptor) 80 - 90 HP, 80 rollout 10 - 12 paddle Hauler 9" x 8" rim, +8" - 10" swingarm, 15 x 36 - 38 gearing.

Raptor) 90 - 100 HP, 80+ rollout 12 paddle Hauler 9" x 8" rim, +10" - 12" swingarm, 16 x 38 - 40 gearing.

[jstev]

That is what I was looking for
Quadracers thanks for your input.  Now how much does rider weight play on you chart there?  I weigh 270 plus 2 swinger, around 60 hp on a 660.  On weight more is less right?  So less paddles for me than skinny asses?

[Quadracers]

That's correct. I would go on the low paddle side for you, in which ever category your bikes fits into HP wise. Your added weight will allow the bike to still leave hard with much less paddle than someone who weighs
180 lb., plus you will have more MPH with say 7 paddles then 10.

[Quadracers]

Another point I forgot to make is that when you remove the stock 20 x 10 x 9 (62 rollout) tires and install the larger 22 x 11 x 8 (72 rollout) Haulers you are making a gear change equal to 1 countershaft tooth. So even tho you might still have the stock 14 x 38 gearing, with the larger 72 rollout tires it is comparable to running a 15 tooth countershaft sprocket. If you want to maintain the same operating RPMs as 14 x 38, you will need to go down to 13 x 38 to do so will the larger 72 rollout tires.

[cowtownup]

Thanks!!!

[Troy]

WOW, Tom you are the man, that's the most information on tires and swingers and gearing I've seen and you gave it all out in one shot.  Thanks a ton, that will help alot of people on here and get the majority of people where they need to be.  That's what it's all about, helping your fellow atvers out 

[Colorado700R]

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Aaron

[Pw383426]

Damn Tom, that's alot of info 

What's your opinion on Glider vs Hauler Vs Extremes vs Rippers?

[Quadracers]

Your welcome guys, hope the information helps.

Thanks for the free up grade Aaron, very much appreciated.

[Quadracers]

Damn Tom, that's alot of info  

What's your opinion on Glider vs Hauler Vs Extremes vs Rippers?

Rippers are way to much tire for 4 strokes in the sand as well as in 300 ft. We ran some on our rigid that is a NOS build with well over a 120 hp and they really affected our MPH while only showing slight gains in our 60 ft. times. Overall ET was slower.

Extremes are the perfect tire for Raptors in 300 ft. racing and exceptionaly high HP bikes in the sand.

Haulers and Gliders are the ideal tire for hillshooting or duning for most builds, both can get you into the winners circle. Just remember less is more.

[Colorado700R]

What's your take on the hauler/glider combos?

[bighamster]

anyone try the skat hawks yet?  we always stay at south camp (little sahara) and you have to travel on the road.