Which head would you run?

Started by MAN, June 07, 2009, 12:44:16 PM

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MAN

Hey guys.
I need a little help on what head to run. I will have two different heads to choose from to run on my bike, both will be new. I'm pretty sure I'm sticking with Bo's head but I wanted to get some thoughts and opinions from you guys. Keep in mind, I ride mostly in the woods. Also, I may stroke it this winter but it will still be a pump gas build. Race gas is too much around here.   

Head one is Bo's Trex port with +1 Ferrea intake valves, Kibblewhite Spring Kits, HDD 5050 cam.

Head two is the one I won on here last month. It is a KDS's CNC Port, +2 Ferrea intake and exhaust valves, Bee-Hive Springs, and an RJ Cam. If you have not got your VIP on here yet you need to NOW!

I'm thinking the KDS head is just too much for what I have done and what kind of riding I do. What would you do? ??? :thumbs:

07 Raptor 700r
PC3, DMC Force 4's, FCI with box, CP 11:1 piston, HDD/Web 5050 cam, Kibblewhite Springs, VelociRaptor Trex II +1 port, +2 TB, 07-09 YZ450f Tusk clutch kit, Ron Woods clutch springs, Evac, Dynatek with HDD map, i5500 +2 LT kit, WiigStyle rear shock, CCP, Hiper CF1 beadlocks, GNCC's and more..

1badazz_700r

I would go with the kds build :thumbs: I have a bo white head and i will be upgrading to kenny's head over the winter.Bo's head is awesome dont get me wrong,but kenny's head is top notch and will not restict anything you want to add in the future. plus you won it so its free which is even better. I trail ride mostly and wouldnt hesitate to get the kds package

Just a little 778
105.5 WK cylinder CP 11:1
hotrods +5 crank
racersedge +2 head,with webb4
54mmTB with custom intake
sparks X-6exhaust
PC5/w autotune
dynatek programmable
slingshot lockup
+3 stock swingarm
hiper dual beadlocks/w gncc holeshots
flexx bars,burgard+2stem/w antivibe
ASV's
odi's

RaptorRandy

That's a no Brainer IMHO.......go with the CNC head and take advantage of the superior technology. That head won't hold you back anywhere on your current  or a future pump gas stroker stroker build.




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99 F250 PSD

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Gunz

KDS was my original plan, till I won the Barker. Next time I buy a head it'll be KDS, nothing against Bo. CNC for the win.


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941 +10 w/bar

MAN

Looks like you guys are big fans of the CNC port. I'm just not sold on the +2 valves yet. I don't see to many builders using them in there bikes. That's why I thinking I will keep Bo's head for my build. 
07 Raptor 700r
PC3, DMC Force 4's, FCI with box, CP 11:1 piston, HDD/Web 5050 cam, Kibblewhite Springs, VelociRaptor Trex II +1 port, +2 TB, 07-09 YZ450f Tusk clutch kit, Ron Woods clutch springs, Evac, Dynatek with HDD map, i5500 +2 LT kit, WiigStyle rear shock, CCP, Hiper CF1 beadlocks, GNCC's and more..

Gunz

Im running +2 ferreas in my CNC Barker. I don't see what the problem is.  ???


Dent Source LLC

941 +10 w/bar

MAN

I don't have the build you have and most likely never will. I could be wrong but I'm thinking the +2 valves will take away from the bottom end power on my small build?
07 Raptor 700r
PC3, DMC Force 4's, FCI with box, CP 11:1 piston, HDD/Web 5050 cam, Kibblewhite Springs, VelociRaptor Trex II +1 port, +2 TB, 07-09 YZ450f Tusk clutch kit, Ron Woods clutch springs, Evac, Dynatek with HDD map, i5500 +2 LT kit, WiigStyle rear shock, CCP, Hiper CF1 beadlocks, GNCC's and more..

RaptorRandy

Quote from: MAN on June 07, 2009, 05:48:32 PM
Looks like you guys are big fans of the CNC port. I'm just not sold on the +2 valves yet. I don't see to many builders using them in there bikes. That's why I thinking I will keep Bo's head for my build. 

I ran +2mm valves at all four corners on my 780 for over 3 years on two different combos. If you ever plan on going to a 105mm or larger bore they will really shine.




07 Aljo 199LTD toy box
99 F250 PSD

Trust in the LORD with all your heart,
And lean not on your own understanding;
In all your ways acknowledge him,
And He shall direct your paths.

MAN

Quote from: RaptorRandy on June 07, 2009, 07:09:54 PM
Quote from: MAN on June 07, 2009, 05:48:32 PM
Looks like you guys are big fans of the CNC port. I'm just not sold on the +2 valves yet. I don't see to many builders using them in there bikes. That's why I thinking I will keep Bo's head for my build. 

I ran +2mm valves at all four corners on my 780 for over 3 years on two different combos. If you ever plan on going to a 105mm or larger bore they will really shine.

So you don't think it will rev slower or lose any on the bottom end with KDS's head on my stock bore/stroke 11.1 build? I don't see me getting to crazy with the mods after this build. Like I said, I may do a crank but then again I may not. I ride tight trails in WV and I don't need much more then 65-70hp if I even need that. :lol:
07 Raptor 700r
PC3, DMC Force 4's, FCI with box, CP 11:1 piston, HDD/Web 5050 cam, Kibblewhite Springs, VelociRaptor Trex II +1 port, +2 TB, 07-09 YZ450f Tusk clutch kit, Ron Woods clutch springs, Evac, Dynatek with HDD map, i5500 +2 LT kit, WiigStyle rear shock, CCP, Hiper CF1 beadlocks, GNCC's and more..

Tim Barker

you will be fine with the +2s it will rev faster than you realize.

Barkers Performance
www.barkersexhaust.com

SprinterX

Tough decision hey MAN. Most guys in the know are saying to go with the CNC head and that would be my recommendation too.

Don't forget who asked and contacted you first here on RS about buying your BO head.
08 Raptor 700

RE +1 head, X4 cam, TQS 11.5 piston, KDS +3 TB & evac, FCI,
Barkers duals, PC5 with A/T, Dyna Programmable, DL700 tune.
+2 I-Shock arms, Rock axle, reworked shocks, GTT link, +4 oem ext'd swinger
Elka Sys5 Dampner, Fasst Flexx on Rox anti-vibe risers, TT HIDs
Razr2 on HiPers, Skat 21/12/8 8pdl extremes, Sandstar frts
Roll bumper, PA guards/nerfs/skids

MAN

Quote from: SprinterX on June 07, 2009, 09:47:14 PM
Tough decision hey MAN. Most guys in the know are saying to go with the CNC head and that would be my recommendation too.

Don't forget who asked and contacted you first here on RS about buying your BO head.


:lol: Your first in line if I sale that head. :thumbs:
07 Raptor 700r
PC3, DMC Force 4's, FCI with box, CP 11:1 piston, HDD/Web 5050 cam, Kibblewhite Springs, VelociRaptor Trex II +1 port, +2 TB, 07-09 YZ450f Tusk clutch kit, Ron Woods clutch springs, Evac, Dynatek with HDD map, i5500 +2 LT kit, WiigStyle rear shock, CCP, Hiper CF1 beadlocks, GNCC's and more..

Krandall

My vote would also be the KDS Head. the head design is what makes or breaks builds. Not that you NEEED the power. But. that's the first spot that you get restricted basically. Go big or go home right? :lol:


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Quote from: MAN on June 07, 2009, 09:55:36 PM
Quote from: SprinterX on June 07, 2009, 09:47:14 PM
Tough decision hey MAN. Most guys in the know are saying to go with the CNC head and that would be my recommendation too.

Don't forget who asked and contacted you first here on RS about buying your BO head.


:lol: Your first in line if I sale that head. :thumbs:

Thanx, appreciate that.  :thumbs:
08 Raptor 700

RE +1 head, X4 cam, TQS 11.5 piston, KDS +3 TB & evac, FCI,
Barkers duals, PC5 with A/T, Dyna Programmable, DL700 tune.
+2 I-Shock arms, Rock axle, reworked shocks, GTT link, +4 oem ext'd swinger
Elka Sys5 Dampner, Fasst Flexx on Rox anti-vibe risers, TT HIDs
Razr2 on HiPers, Skat 21/12/8 8pdl extremes, Sandstar frts
Roll bumper, PA guards/nerfs/skids

Colorado700R

KDS all the way buddy.  Gives you more options for the future, and we all say "Well, I'm not gonna mod it THAT much" but multi thousands of $$$ later we're still searching for more HP.  The great thing about the Rappy IMO, is that even 70 HP is still "trailable" because of it's wider gearing.

Aaron