Fox Floats

Started by Colorado700R, May 14, 2008, 03:33:53 PM

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Ranger

Cool...How big are those pumps anyways? On extended rides I usually have a camelback on that has extra pockets for storage (kinda like a backpack)...I have some small air compressors I can probably stick on the truck for quick pre-ride adjustments and have the pump for on the fly crap...

Alkire193

Im late I know. The GNCC events I participated in I was surrounded by the Fox Floats. Of course the sponsored guys have to say they are the best, but id say 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 racers ran Fox floats in the pro class. They are simply too pricey for me though. Maybe if they bring them down in price one day.

Bert

Alkire
Check out the Fox Float R shocks in this link. Thought I read they sell for 700.00
http://www.foxracingshox.com/atv/sport

Alkire193

Quote from: Bert on July 23, 2009, 05:58:57 AM
Alkire
Check out the Fox Float R shocks in this link. Thought I read they sell for 700.00
http://www.foxracingshox.com/atv/sport

I was speaking of the Evo's that are almost 2K each. Pro guys and their money  :(

Kenneth

Quote from: Alkire193 on July 23, 2009, 03:35:30 PM
Quote from: Bert on July 23, 2009, 05:58:57 AM
Alkire
Check out the Fox Float R shocks in this link. Thought I read they sell for 700.00
http://www.foxracingshox.com/atv/sport

I was speaking of the Evo's that are almost 2K each. Pro guys and their money  :(

The Fox Float Evols are listed 1495.00 on our website (retail). We give away a free helmet cam and a gift card with every purchase.  :thumbs:
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Alkire193

Thats an Each or bundle purchase price?

Ranger

Those are for 2 shocks basically...

Woolfman

Quote from: KB Motorsports on July 30, 2009, 09:58:18 PM
Quote from: Alkire193 on July 23, 2009, 03:35:30 PM
Quote from: Bert on July 23, 2009, 05:58:57 AM
Alkire
Check out the Fox Float R shocks in this link. Thought I read they sell for 700.00
http://www.foxracingshox.com/atv/sport

I was speaking of the Evo's that are almost 2K each. Pro guys and their money  :(

The Fox Float Evols are listed 1495.00 on our website (retail). We give away a free helmet cam and a gift card with every purchase.  :thumbs:

How much is the gift card for I was planning on Float R's but would love the Evols?

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Woolfman

The Evols are ride height adjustable was wondering if anyone knows if they are adjustable enough that you could go from stock aarms to long travel?

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Krandall

Not sure, I know on regular shocks that's not do-able even w/ a revalve due to the shock rod not being long enough to compensate for the extra travel. That's per GT-Thunder. :thumbs:


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Woolfman

Yeah I knew the floats aren't because they aren't ride height adjustable.  The evols one valve is for ride height the other is for firmness.

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Jay@RacersEdge

The floats are adjustable height, the more air you have in them the taller the shock gets and vice versa :thumbs:

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Is there such a thing as Floats for stock arms vs +2 arms though?

I would think that there'd be a difference similar to regual type shocks.


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Quote from: Jay@RacersEdge on August 19, 2009, 10:55:57 AM
The floats are adjustable height, the more air you have in them the taller the shock gets and vice versa :thumbs:

Thats the Evols.  The floats it may take out some sag but not ride height adjustable

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JOHNNY BAJA

Here's just a little more infomation on the Fox Float X Evols shocks. Let me dispell a few "myths" about these shocks first.

Fox has several versions of these shocks, here's the breakdown.

- Fox Floats are for standard travel or +2 A-Arms
- Fox Float X Evols are for long travel suspension with the newer versions having both low and high speed adjustments
- Fox Floats X Evols have ALL the adjustments - Hi/Low Speed compression, rebound, ride height etc...

- No, they don't leak air after every ride when sitting, I've gone months without having to add air to the chambers. Only if there is a substantial temperature change should you re-check and add air to the shocks. Of couse, a smart rider will ALWAYS do a quick PM on the shocks as well as the entire quad before every ride.
- No, you don't have to put your quad on blocks when not riding or when the quad is stored
- The hand pumps are small enough to put in your Camelback if you wanted (Really not needed but it sure made it easy to dial in my shocks making several runs down Sand Highway at Glamis)
- Cost to have Fox rebuild them is around $200 - $250 for the pair
- Cost of these shocks new is around $1500 for the pair, used sets can be picked up on yfzcentral.com and yfztech.com for around $800 - $1200
- They don't have to be rebuilt every year of riding
- About the only thing that can happen is you blow a valve or seal and you will still be able to "limp" back to your stagging area at much slower pace. I have actually let the air out of one shock and tried it just see what happens. Yes, your quad will lean to one side and you have little or no suspension but if you go slow and be smart you'll be fine.

The best part about these shocks is that NO OTHER SHOCK gives you this adjustability for riding conditions, terrain, rider weight etc... try that with your spring shocks and lets see how much money you end up spending having them revalved or springs changed.

I have rode quads with everything from the stock pogo sticks to YFZ450 shocks to Elka's, IShocks, PEP shocks etc.. and I can honestly say that these Fox Evol's have out performed all of them. One of the first things you notice about the Fox Evols is that you are missing something. THE SPRINGS! Fox uses two air chambers to replace the spring(s) on a typical front shock. For what it's worth, I weighed my old set of YFZ450 shock compared to my Fox Evol's and the Fox Evol's are about 2 pounds lighter per shock. After all, theres not many things lighter then air, right?


The EVOL air chamber is adjusted to control the "bottom-out characteristics of the shock. The MAIN air chamber is adjusted to change ride height and roll/pitch stiffness of the ATV. Included with your Fox Float X Evol shocks are two seperate hand pumps that are used to adjust the air pressure in each chamber. The ability to change your air pressure in each chamber will allow you to fine tune your shocks for different riding terrains, style or even different weight riders. With a conventional "Spring" shocks ,you would have to first purchase another set of springs and second most people would have to send their shocks to either the Manufacturer or a shop to swap out the springs. Both will incur additional cost and down time to set your shocks up.




The Fox Float X Evol's also have your Compression adjustment (at the top of the shock) as well as your Rebound adjustment (at the bottom of the shock). Instead of needing tools such as a screw driver or wrench to make adjustments, the Fox Evol's have these nice little knobs you turn to make your adjustments. I never had a problem using tools to make these adjustments but it sure is nice just to turn a knob to change these settings.






Now I have received a few PM's and Emails from members asking "Do they loose air if the quad sits" or "Do you have to put your quad on stands when you're not riding to protect the seals" or "How often do you have to add air to the chambers". I called Fox and asked them these very questions and they said... NO, NO and only if there is a big temperature change or you want to adjust your settings. After a month with them, they still have the same air pressure in BOTH air chambers that I originally set up for my riding style and terrain. The only thing you really need to watch regarding the air pressure is Temperature. ie. setting the psi in each chamber in your garage where the ambient temperture is usually much warmer then the outside temperature that you ride in. If it's over a 30 degree difference then it is recommended that the pressure settings be reset.

Now I came into my Long Travel suspension and these Fox Float X Evols by purchasing another quad that already had this set up. I swapped the set up over to my Raptor 700 and returned my other quad back to stock supension. Now these are not the cheapest shocks on the market but I've seen new shocks on ATV Internet sites & magazines from $1200 - $1400 and used on YFZTech.com and YFZCentral.com from $800 - $1200. I called Fox and asked how much to rebuild/freshen up these shocks and they said around $200 for the pair. That's really not that bad compaired to cost of having your spring style shocks rebuild/revalved or changing to different springs.

Now this is only my personal opinion and experience with different shocks that I've been able to ride with. I hope this helps answers some of the questions or concerns with the Fox Float X Evol Long Travel Shocks. Feel free to PM or email with any questions or if you are thinking about investing (ya, I said invest because nothing is cheap for our Raptor 700's) into a new set of shocks and if you live in Arizona or see me out at Glamis and would like to "Test" ride my quad with these shocks let me know, we'll set something up.