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Title: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Headrope on June 22, 2011, 05:42:17 PM
I've read the service manual-and other threads -but am apparently stupid and need some help.
How do I get the disk rotor assembly to slide off the axle? Do I have to remove the four allen screws?
How do I pry it away from the swingarm without damaging the rotor?
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Mad Dog on June 22, 2011, 08:43:17 PM
Allen screws are only holding the rotor on the hub.  If you're worried about bending the disc you can remove them but I warn you they may be stuck in and you may end up stripping them out, I know I have before.

It's designed to slide off, at least it is on the other Yamahas I've owned.  More than likely it's stuck on there, and liberal application of lubricants or some time with the torch to heat it up may be in order.
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Headrope on June 22, 2011, 10:53:14 PM
It took almost 3/4 a can of PB Blaster, a couple of hours of soaking, and some prying but the rotor assembly finally came off. No wonder my bearings toasted. :lol:
Thanks for the help. Everything suggested it was supposed to slide off but it didn't want to budge and had I not read your reply I would have removed the allen bolts AND attacked it with a BFH (big effin hammer). You saved me some money, bro. Appreciate it. :cheers:
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Mad Dog on June 23, 2011, 03:03:41 PM
Glad you got it apart, they can be a bear when they stick like that.  I had a heck of a time removing my carrier after it seized in there.
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Headrope on June 23, 2011, 10:05:38 PM
Got it apart but still have a ways to go.
This is how toasted the bearings are.
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Krandall on June 24, 2011, 07:13:52 AM
first time replacing them?!! :rofl:

is THAT what a grenade looks like! :lol:
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Colorado700R on June 24, 2011, 07:17:48 AM
Looks like mine, it's amazing how nice it rolls when there replaced :lol:
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Headrope on June 24, 2011, 03:26:14 PM
Krandall - Yep. First time replacing them. I've put hundreds of miles on my quad each year since 2006 and have crossed many creeks and streams. Lesson learned, I guess.
Colorado - I bet.
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Krandall on June 24, 2011, 03:33:00 PM
that thing's gonna roll like butta now :thumbs:
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Headrope on June 29, 2011, 05:19:04 PM
Anyone got a picture of what the inside of a carrier should look like, or a diagram of where bearings belong? I've done just about everything I can think of to remove what looks to the leftover of bearing races from the carrier but they don't want to budge. Maybe they're actually part of the carrier?
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Alkire193 on July 03, 2011, 06:34:09 PM
Bearings, the ultimate go fast mod  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: russ-russ on July 04, 2011, 09:32:34 AM
Anyone got a picture of what the inside of a carrier should look like, or a diagram of where bearings belong? I've done just about everything I can think of to remove what looks to the leftover of bearing races from the carrier but they don't want to budge. Maybe they're actually part of the carrier?
Heat is your friend.  A heat gun or a propane torch will make the job much easier.  

You have to move the spacer sleeve (#5) to one side a little bit in order to get behind one of the bearings to drive them out.  If you picture the two ball bearings stacked on top of each other, then the sleeve, then the other two bearings like this:   ||=||

You need to use a long punch and a hammer to to reach through the assembly and drive the bearings out the other side.  Does that help any?

(http://www.imagessite.com/OEM_Images/Yamaha_atv_images/Y06YFM700RV22.gif)
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Headrope on July 05, 2011, 01:47:35 PM
Information is helpful but stuff I've already tried. I have even tried putting the carrier assembly on a electric hotplate (like for cooking), letting it get good and hot and then squirting cold water on the bearing races.
No dice. I'm thinking I might be effed.
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: russ-russ on July 05, 2011, 08:06:49 PM
If you cover the ride here and back, I'll get it done for you.  I have a hydraulic press and a 20 lb. sledge. :P

But seriously, if you have hit your breaking point, I'll help you out.

Those of us with the fastest (yellow) rappy's gotta stick together. :thumbs:
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Raptor Trent on July 08, 2011, 03:52:45 PM
Just wondering if you got it goin. I have a complete carrier layin in the shop. If you cant get it done or ruin it tryin, give me a call and maybe I can make you a deal on this carrier. I really dont get on the forums much anymore so it would be best to call me on my cell phone. Trent 580-931-6037.
Hope you get it goin.
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Headrope on July 10, 2011, 04:53:19 PM
Appreciate the offers but I might be OK. I took the carrier to a speed shop and let them pound on it. It was funny listening while waiting:  tink, tink, tink followed by bam, bam, bam, followed by the pshsssss of a torch, more banging and the whir of an air wheel. Big ups to Rainier Honda & Yamaha.  :cheers:

Next up: Getting the bearing spacer off the axle. Then - hopefully - it will just be a matter of throwing the Pivot Works kit in the freezer for a while, putting the carrier on a hotplate and buttoning everything back up. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: russ-russ on July 10, 2011, 10:05:09 PM
Good deal.  When you are putting things back together, grease the piss out of the axle and spacer sleeve to help prevent rust for next time.  Hell, grease everything.
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Headrope on July 11, 2011, 03:06:58 PM
The sleeve does come off the non-drive (right) side, right? It slides but keeps getting hung up in the center of the axle.
Sorry for all the questions. I can get busted heads bolts out of an engine built in 1966 but apparently can't figure out the axle on a quad assembled only 5 years ago. This is nuts.

UPDATE: Ended up having to cut the bearing spacer off. The axle looks OK. Won't know for sure until I go to put it all back together though and a new bearing spacer is on order.
I miss the good ol' days when parts shops actually had parts * sigh *
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Bert on July 12, 2011, 03:47:06 AM
Good deal.  When you are putting things back together, grease the piss out of the axle and spacer sleeve to help prevent rust for next time.  Hell, grease everything.
On #5 the spacer  I used antisieze. I haven't had it apart since then so....
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Headrope on July 26, 2011, 02:44:45 AM
Parts finally came in and - well, IT"S FIXED!!!!!!!
Thanks for all the help. Everything tests out on pavement. Will test it out for realsies next week at Coos Bay.
Title: Re: Help a 'idiot remove an axle
Post by: Krandall on July 26, 2011, 06:13:02 AM
 :thumbs: :clap: