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Mini-Raptors (250, 80, and 50cc) => Mini Motor Mods => Topic started by: FoundArealQuad on June 17, 2008, 09:17:32 PM

Title: Z50
Post by: FoundArealQuad on June 17, 2008, 09:17:32 PM
Does anybody know all the trick to uncork them. I went to the sand with my daughter and the quad would not climb anything.
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: RR34 on June 18, 2008, 08:06:15 PM
pleaser refer to the last 2 characters of your title. that will explain EVERYTHING :grin_nod:
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: Livingmylife93 on June 18, 2008, 08:31:37 PM
Unscrew the throttle restrictor, and there is engine kits for them...
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: FoundArealQuad on June 18, 2008, 08:39:30 PM
I know I have to take out the clutch limiter, washer at the beginning of the head pipe, and sparky. I know there has to be more than that. Going to buy new filter soon, and get into the carb. I don't really want to bore it though.
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: kyledvor61 on June 18, 2008, 11:09:39 PM
not to be a dick but I dont really think it would be worth buying mods for..
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: Livingmylife93 on June 19, 2008, 08:36:29 AM
not to be a dick but I dont really think it would be worth buying mods for..

+1

can she handle an 80 or 90?
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: Flynbyu on June 19, 2008, 09:54:59 AM
I know I have to take out the clutch limiter, washer at the beginning of the head pipe, and sparky. I know there has to be more than that. Going to buy new filter soon, and get into the carb. I don't really want to bore it though.

I don't blame you....Tried a different sprocket yet?

~Brian
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: FoundArealQuad on June 19, 2008, 12:02:55 PM
No not yet. I paid $1500 for it and it was fine when she was 4 now that she is almost 6 its getting to be slow for her. I would like not to buy another quad until she is 9 so she can get a Rappy 250, but I think thats not going to happen. :(
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: Flynbyu on June 19, 2008, 12:05:43 PM
Good news is that kids bikes are hard to find, and new ones are expensive. You'll be able to clean house when you sell it!

Finding a replacement she can ride is a tough one.

~Brian
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: RR34 on June 19, 2008, 12:46:35 PM
she could probably handle your 525 easy giver her that and upgrade to  a YFZ! everybody wins :clap:
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: FoundArealQuad on June 19, 2008, 12:46:52 PM
I hear you. I just don't want to buy an Apex 90 with a two stroke and have her be in over her head. I can't find any Pred 90s used and be damned if I buy another new one.
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: FoundArealQuad on June 19, 2008, 12:49:32 PM
she could probably handle your 525 easy giver her that and upgrade to  a YFZ! everybody wins :clap:
There you go typing keyboard diarrhea again :slap:
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: RR34 on June 19, 2008, 12:51:36 PM
she could probably handle your 525 easy giver her that and upgrade to  a YFZ! everybody wins :clap:
There you go typing keyboard diarrhea again :slap:

i just drank a mt. dew and cant keep my hands steady for shit! <--- i used backspace like 50 times on that and on this GERD DAMNIT. :(
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: exentix on June 19, 2008, 04:48:30 PM
she could probably handle your 525 easy giver her that and upgrade to  a YFZ! everybody wins :clap:
There you go typing keyboard diarrhea again :slap:

i just drank a mt. dew and cant keep my hands steady for shit! <--- i used backspace like 50 times on that and on this GERD DAMNIT. :(
now cody, just slow down, it will be OK!  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: kyledvor61 on June 19, 2008, 04:58:19 PM
perhaps a raptor 80?
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: exentix on June 19, 2008, 05:01:35 PM
perhaps a raptor 80?
just to make sure, this year they arent making the 50 or 80 right? they went to a 90?
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: FoundArealQuad on June 19, 2008, 06:55:52 PM
perhaps a raptor 80?
just to make sure, this year they arent making the 50 or 80 right? they went to a 90?
The Raptor 50 is pretty damn weak also so is the 80.
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: kyledvor61 on June 19, 2008, 09:36:19 PM
perhaps a raptor 80?
just to make sure, this year they arent making the 50 or 80 right? they went to a 90?
The Raptor 50 is pretty damn weak also so is the 80.

just throwin options out there. what about a chinese 110 or 90? cheap, and if it breaks down, who cares
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: RR34 on June 20, 2008, 10:31:23 AM
just say screw and get her a cobra 90. :lol:
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: who else but rk on June 20, 2008, 11:19:45 AM
perhaps a raptor 80?
+1
my sis had a grizzly 80 and it was soooo easy to drive. they sell cheap too. my sisters sold for 800 bucks
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: grap660 on June 20, 2008, 07:52:07 PM
perhaps a raptor 80?
just to make sure, this year they arent making the 50 or 80 right? they went to a 90?
The Raptor 50 is pretty damn weak also so is the 80.

just throwin options out there. what about a chinese 110 or 90? cheap, and if it breaks down, who cares

+1 im with kyle just buy a chinese made quad we bought my 8 yr bro and he likes it
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: Bert on July 01, 2008, 11:56:41 PM
I know I have to take out the clutch limiter, washer at the beginning of the head pipe, and sparky. I know there has to be more than that. Going to buy new filter soon, and get into the carb. I don't really want to bore it though.

What I remember reading
1. Clutch spacer
2. washer restricting exhaust mounted @ the beginning of the head pipe
3. washer restricting the intake mounted @ the carb
4. sparky can be modified with a larger washer welded in to maintain USFS Regs.
5. K&N w/Outerwares upgrade
6. Drilling holes in the airbox lid
7. possible air baffle in the airbox or intake ( I don't remember )
8. In the carb there's a removable jet that restricts fuel
9. DynaTek Ignition advances the timing ( $175 Ebay )
10. Rejet
11. Exhaust pipe
12. 88cc race engine

7 of these mods are free to the consumer & jetting & K&N are cheap mods
I read about this on Z400 central & the popular opinion was that the DynaTek was a big gain, definately worthwhile. A Z50 with all 11 mods could & would spank 80 & 90 quads all day providing they weren't Cobra's or Pro Sharks.  Oh yea, with most mods performed the Igniton Timing is so stupid that it leaves the little 50 hitting the very low RPM limiter & thank DynaTek that their igniton raises the RPM limiter


Polarass525 - I think you & Tommy could fab a header pipe for the quad & see what that does for it.  It looks as if a conduit bender would work for making the header  :lol:
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: devildog108 on July 07, 2008, 05:50:51 AM
Can you tell me the year?  It depends on the year it is as to the different mods.  Spark arrestor and clutch ring are the first 2.  The 08' models also have a rev limiter that will keep it at bay.  If its newer, the "work around" isnt the same as the 06 and below.  I am in the same process as you are looking for more power.  Kymco is the maker so the mods you and I do will be identical depending on the year.  I also just recieved a letter about a recall on the carb hanging in full open.  Wonder if thats why my 7 yr old hit that tree???
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 07, 2008, 07:32:00 AM
Its an 06 4 stroke
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: devildog108 on July 07, 2008, 02:40:03 PM
Yeah, we have the same one.  There is a pep up kit sold.  Ill find the URL and send it your way.  Do you know about the change on the CDI?
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 07, 2008, 02:48:53 PM
No I don't any help would be great though. Thanks :thumbs:
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: devildog108 on July 07, 2008, 04:57:36 PM
No I don't any help would be great though. Thanks :thumbs:

Is it safe to say you have opened up the thumb throttle and removed the belt sleeve?  The power up kit is $350.00 and up and from what i gather is pretty tough.  I am waiting a little bit because my two are insame as is.  Check out the pics

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Title: Re: Z50
Post by: Bert on July 07, 2008, 06:22:55 PM
With the boys flyin like that the  suspension updates will begin  :lol:
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: devildog108 on July 07, 2008, 07:13:19 PM
They already need it.  The one  :thumbs:
With the boys flyin like that the  suspension updates will begin  :lol:
in the red is the hellion and is already bottoming them out.  I have to stiffin them up b4 the next ride!!
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 07, 2008, 07:50:04 PM
The only problem my daughter has is paying attention to were she is going.
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: Bert on July 08, 2008, 12:29:55 AM
The only problem my daughter has is paying attention to were she is going.
I know the kid & she's pretty sharp for a 6 year old.  I wonder what the hell she's thinking about when she rides  ???

My nephew is always paying attention to who's watching him vs driving (crash yet to happen)
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: devildog108 on July 08, 2008, 05:12:51 PM
my memories going.  www.hetrickracing.com  I emailed them and got a quick response. The site doesnt list the 4stroke options, but they have it...... :hammer: Look at the power up kits for the 50's and 90's......Thats what i am doing next to theirs. :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 08, 2008, 05:32:12 PM
Thanks I'll get on the phone with them soon :thumbs:
Title: Re: Z50
Post by: devildog108 on July 08, 2008, 06:57:45 PM
email as well, they anwered me pretty quickly :clap: