I'm installing a Dynatek here shortly and was wanting your opinions. I did a search on the other forum, read lots of advice, some for it some against but at the end of it, was still left not knowing which is better. I'll say this, I don't like that T splice-ing thing at all. I plan on skinning some of the insulation back off the wire(not cutting it) and then solder the Dyna wire onto it. Oh, and I'm in the South East so we get supper muddy and wet all the time! So I'm a little worried about corrosion that's why I don't trust that T thing. Thoughts?
That's the way I'll be doing it.
I would solder and then use the heat shrink wrap around the wires. :thumbs:
Quote from: Krandall on July 08, 2008, 02:49:12 PM
That's the way I'll be doing it.
I would solder and then use the heat shrink wrap around the wires. :thumbs:
Sound advice coming from an "uber puter geek" :rofl: but I have installed many stereos and GPS untis, many automotive chips, using t-splices and the work AWSOME!!! You hear the horor stories about people using them because there improperly crimped and or the wrong guage.
The tool is only as good as its user.......
Quote from: preddy08 on July 08, 2008, 03:01:08 PM
Quote from: Krandall on July 08, 2008, 02:49:12 PM
That's the way I'll be doing it.
I would solder and then use the heat shrink wrap around the wires. :thumbs:
Sound advice coming from an "uber puter geek" :rofl: but I have installed many stereos and GPS untis, many automotive chips, using t-splices and the work AWSOME!!! You hear the horor stories about people using them because there improperly crimped and or the wrong guage.
The tool is only as good as its user.......
But most automotive chips don't see weather. Wiring on a quad will see water/mud.. Most wiring under a car hood is lucky to see a rain drop.
I don't know. I've never been a fan of those splices. Once water gets in, it's game over.
Quote from: Krandall on July 08, 2008, 03:04:13 PM
Quote from: preddy08 on July 08, 2008, 03:01:08 PM
Quote from: Krandall on July 08, 2008, 02:49:12 PM
That's the way I'll be doing it.
I would solder and then use the heat shrink wrap around the wires. :thumbs:
Sound advice coming from an "uber puter geek" :rofl: but I have installed many stereos and GPS untis, many automotive chips, using t-splices and the work AWSOME!!! You hear the horor stories about people using them because there improperly crimped and or the wrong guage.
The tool is only as good as its user.......
But most automotive chips don't see weather. Wiring on a quad will see water/mud.. Most wiring under a car hood is lucky to see a rain drop.
I don't know. I've never been a fan of those splices. Once water gets in, it's game over.
That is what Dielectric greese is for, and they do make weather proof t-splices.
I LOVE dielectric grease. It's my friend. But you know deep down inside, there's no way to get a better connection than direct splice/solder. :) ;)
make sure to use double wall shrink tubing, do not use single wall!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Krandall on July 08, 2008, 03:26:57 PM
I LOVE dielectric grease. It's my friend. But you know deep down inside, there's no way to get a better connection than direct splice/solder. :) ;)
True that, but I hate making such a perminate modification to a wiring harnes.
i would say just solder it. just make sure it's good and clean and use good solder and do it right you will never have to worry about it. and like krandall said use shrink wrap and the grease stuff. :thumbs:
Preddy
Where would I find a weather proof T-splice?
I'll buy some, not sure if I'll use them for the DynaTek....
Before you solder, make sure you have heat sinks set. those components will fry with too much heat through the wire.
Aaron
try putting silicon over the heat shrink or splice let it dry and the tape it I have been doing this for years on boats and Qauds and never have any problems
I would say solidering is the best way to go,but i live in the UK and we get very wet and muddy and i T-spliced my Dynatek as i didnt want to do it the other way and its been fine,touch wood :thumbs:
From my understanding you are not supposed to solder them. I don't know allot about it but I know you car stereo guys think soldering is da chit. That is just what I heard from a rebutable builder and dynatek..To each there own though.. :thumbs:
do you know if they gave any reason not to? ???
Quote from: Krandall on July 09, 2008, 07:53:31 AM
do you know if they gave any reason not to? ???
Well I really didn't get a reason from Dyna but I know that Kenny was a ol school car stereo guy and I told him I was getting ready to solder and he said not to.
Hmmm, I'll have to give that hillbilly a call. :lol:
Well I did just talk to a guy at Dyna and he says you can do it but its a permanent connection (obviously) and he did not reccomend it as most people that do mods move it allot and are taking it on and off. So there you go, you can do it!
Quote from: J-HILT on July 09, 2008, 10:20:21 AM
So there you go, you can do it!
Sweeettt !! :rockon:
when you solder a connection, the wire is no longer flexible where the solder is. this is especially true with novice solderers. with vibration, the wire may brake at the point of solder. now if you take the wires and interweave them in a continuous line and then use double wall shrink tubing, the glue in the shrink tubing will seal the wire from the elements, and still allow the wire to flex.
Quote from: kamakazi on July 10, 2008, 03:11:38 PM
when you solder a connection, the wire is no longer flexible where the solder is. this is especially true with novice solderers. with vibration, the wire may brake at the point of solder. now if you take the wires and interweave them in a continuous line and then use double wall shrink tubing, the glue in the shrink tubing will seal the wire from the elements, and still allow the wire to flex.
urgghhhhh.. Good point. Back to the drawing board... To tell you the truth though, I just looked at the t thing they sent last night and it looks a whole lot better than the ones that I saw when they first came out. I might just use it after all. :give:
or just use a 25 cent piece of double wall shrink tubing. when you heat the shrink tubing a glue inside melts and flows out to seal from the elements. trust me this is the best way to go, and its cheap and easy.
Excuse my ignorance but how do you get the shrink tubing over the wires? ??? Does the heat shrink come with a cut down the middle to put over the wires?
Put it on before you crimp the wires in place.
Quote from: preddy08 on July 11, 2008, 04:17:43 PM
Put it on before you crimp the wires in place.
Dang Preddy, I'm not that ignorant! :lol: I was talking about getting the heat shrink over the tps wire that is already connected to the plug. That way, I won't have to cut the wire etc.
Does anybody know if Yamaha offers a "pin popper" for the connectors on the Raptor? This way you could pop out the pin, crimp both wires into a new pin and reinstall. It would look factory and reversable. Also, at work we have heat shrink butt connectors with solder inside that melts when you heat it to shrink it.
you should be able to get a multi tool for weatherpak connector at almost any electronics shop, or maybe you can borrow a tool from any car dealer ship.
or get a nice set of waterproof connectors....