As it stands right now, JVR will no longer be performing my GNCC racer build. It is possible that the GNCC turbo will still be made, however that is up in the air. I have gone ahead and made the decision to move the build to Shawn's house (Preddy08) whenever someone "else's 795" stops taking up all the space in the man's garage. :lol: Motor will probably be shipped out to be rebuilt and reworked. More than likely Team Rocket Factory at this point.
8-15-11: I've added everything I have for the build. Just getting it out there. Some things I am still hedged on but still lots of time for decisions.
Update 8-16-2011
Motor
CP 13:1 105mm
Iridium spark plug
Nology Spark Wire (resistor removed) (TQS ATV)
Curtis Sparks XX6 2.5" Big Core exhaust system
High Tension Cylinder Stud Kit (TRF)
High Tension Head Stud Kit (TRF)
Power Commander V ignition
Dynatek non programmable ign
Falicon Rod/ Barker Balanced Crank (+6mm)
FLUIDYNE Radiator
SPAL Fan
STG 2 head (KDS Racing)
Kibblewhite Springs
Ferrera Valves
X4 Cam
UM Racing Aluminum Airbox w/ UM airbox cover filter
White Knuckle TB 54mm
KDS Evac Valve
Slingshot Lock up (Gigot Performance)
OEM Full Fiber Clutch Plates
3 Separate Grounding Points (3 separate ground cables)
SCE Copper Gasket 105mm
Replaced Bearings
Replaced Crankcase
3.5 gal White Knuckle Aluminum Fuel tank
Changed:
+ 3.5gal White Knuckle Aluminum Fuel tank
- FCI intake
+ UM Racing Aluminum Airbox w/ UM airbox cover filter
- 106mm JE piston
+ 105mm JE piston
- X2 cam
+ X4 cam
- JE Piston
+ CP Piston
- +2 Head Bo Port
+ +2 KDS Racing Head
Tires
HiPer ProFil foam tire inserts (HSD Racing)
HiPer mud plugs
HiPer Tech 3 wheels 4+1 offset
ITP GNCC fronts (22x8x10)
Maxxis RAZR 2 rears (20x11x9)
Suspension
Lonestar swingarm (+2") w/ skid plate mounts (zerked for swingarm pivot bearings)
ARS FX XC (+.5") A-arms
EXIT Triple Rate LT Shocks
GT Thunder XC Link
Drive
DFR Block Off Plate
Sidewinder Sprocket(s) and Chain Kit 36/15
Zerk bearing carrier
Axcalibur XC Racing Axle (-2 to +1) Lonestar
Lonestar lightweight rear wheel hubs
Lonestar lightweight front wheel hubs
Protection
reinforced weak points on frame (gusetting)
Pro Armor Raptor 700 Revolution Nerf Bars W/ Heel Guard Nets B
Composite belly skid
Rear Rotor Guard (HSDRacing)
Sprocket Guard (HSDRacing) Set w/ Rear Rotor Guard
TM Designworks Casesaver
DFR frame savers
PowerMadd Gauntlets
All Out Throttle Graphics Set
Bumper/Grab Bar/Seat
Quadtech hump seat
EZ Lift Grab Bar (Custom made)
Pro Armor "Bull Horn" Black Front Bumper
Braking/ Controls
"Wave" Front/ Rear brake rotor (Streamline)
ODI grips
Braided brake lines Front/ Rear (Streamline)
Zbroz Racing +2 steering stem
Zbroz Racing Steering Flag
OMI greasable mount
GPR IV Steering Stabilizer
Pro Taper twin wall bars
Dr D reverse lever
Zbroz Racing XC tie rods
Sunline clutch lever
Sunline front brake lever
Honda 400EX Thumb Throttle (250cc Spring)
Pro Armor ProGRIP Foot Peg
Zbroz Racing Anti-vibe 1 - 1/8" bar clamp
8-10-11: Discussing with my aluminum fabricator buddy of having the fuel tank custom made. He has some ideas but the welds will have to be done by an outside source. He said no problem on making a tank to fit the OEM components, he just wants the frame and seat so he can understand what he is working with.
8-15-11: Also looking to have a company out of Nashville custom mold the tank (plastic/ rubber) to match the factory tank mounting. Have to call them soon to start on the details.
8-10-11: Swapping some of the components for items already installed on my old 770 build. I don't see a reason to make a second +2 head when mine only had 10 hours on it. Same with my 13:1 105mm CP piston. Both did very well. The GNCC turbo will more than likely have a Bo Port and JE piston when/ if it gets assembled.
How about you tell us how you really feel and lets get this shit handled.
1. Your bike, where the FERK is it?
2. Does it take years to achieve your goals on the above list? (Tonto and I nearly did the above in 20 hours on my bike.)
You'll spell out "shit" but not "f**k"? :confused: :rofl:
I feel like the 770 build from a few years ago was lugging because of the cam and the gearing (RJ cam, 36/15 gearing). Also, there was more power left on the table with the restrictive TB and clutch slippage in the upper RPM. not to mention a blown head gasket.
The quad is in pieces in Utah, torn down in several tiny little boxes.
Honestly, no. I was able to build the 770 motor in less than a week once all the parts arrived. But since im overseas I am at the mercy of others AND I am not in need of my atv just yet. So I set a timeline for the atv to be done by the time I get home. Ill be home at this time next year if all goes well.
Well, lets get Aaron to go pick your boxes up, cut your losses, and get this circus show on the road. I know a couple of guys that would love to get your pieces back together, that aren't going through a mid life crises, divorce, and bankruptcy.
Yeah, I'm pushing for you to spill the beans and vent your frustrations.... Do ya blame me??
Screw my frustrations. This isn't Oprah, this IS SPARTA!!.....er....um.....RaptorSource..... :P
I'm just looking for input on my engine. The 770 did great, and had more to go. So i'd like to hear some input on getting this one done right and ready for some GNCC
Someone say Sparta?
What's with the X2 cam? I would think you'd want a Web4 or 5050 with those motor specs...I run a web4 on a 727cc stroker and it does fine in the woods
For 2 years I had the X4 on the sheet until a few weeks ago. I started thinking more XC instead of top end. That's where things started to get dicey.
The X2 is a good low end power delivery cam, but would I be better with a power curve that delivers in the first 3K or across the whole range? What about a late delivery cam that provides solid torque at the start then lots of HP later on for the straight runs where im not needing the hill climbing torque?
If this was SCORE and I was going to Baja i'd say X4 without question. But in the woods I started to think X2 would be the better performer. But im impartial because of re-thinking the whole engine so what do you think? I'm open to suggestion
Chris..first off, sorry I missed your pm :(
As for the cam, and your goal to extend rpms, I would go straight to the web 4. The lower rpm power difference isn't enough to worry about, and the higher rpm performance in the web 4 will worth it.
also if your doing a stroker tq shouldnt be a problem
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 28, 2011, 12:22:49 PM
Chris..first off, sorry I missed your pm :(
As for the cam, and your goal to extend rpms, I would go straight to the web 4. The lower rpm power difference isn't enough to worry about, and the higher rpm performance in the web 4 will worth it.
You are forgiven, only cause your wife likes me better.
I'm looking for solid power through the rpm range. I'd sacrifice high dyno numbers for consistent power. On my old quad if i was mid range in 3rd you couldn't get the smile off my face. I just looked over the old dyno sheet again, it really does lag up to 5k. A very steep peak with the rj cam. I also think believe Shaun and I were discussing the x4 not handling the woods very well. Does the x2 drop clean off after mid range?
Txredxj - I hear ya. The crank in there will give torque, pairing it with the right piston and cam is important.
105mm 10.75:1 and the x-2 cam. I have +2 TB. And no Ignition.
Here's what mine looked like w/ the x2.
(http://bob2bob.com/images/LittleSahara2010/SDC12976.JPG)
Barker +2 or RE +2 head.
Web 4, or RE's big boy, or the RJ. Depends on the head you go with.
Falcon +6 or Barker +7...
just get ARP stud kit.
Quote from: 4gunz4x4z on July 28, 2011, 09:35:46 PM
Barker +2 or RE +2 head.
Web 4, or RE's big boy, or the RJ. Depends on the head you go with.
Falcon +6 or Barker +7...
just get ARP stud kit.
I have TRF stud kits already for cylinder and head. 2x sets, one for each build. I agree ARP is a great brand though
I was going to grab a Barker crank and have falicon swap in a long rod, then lighten it. Expensive but it seemed like a good idea when I talked to them on the phone. I have been looking, I can't find Barker cranks are their website at all. Found them on TRF though.
Never heard much of anything for the RE Big Boy. WEBB 4 is making a comeback. Im thinking by not being so ignorant with my gearing I could see positive results with the WEBB 4.
I have the KDS +2 already, maybe just rebuild it and use that? KDS did make some great heads, they just didn't ship them to people.
Randy, that is what I needed to see. X-2 pours on the power early then tapers off a little through the range, then the HP keeps climbing. I still wish the power would come earlier in the range though. Some great numbers for your 727.
I have no experience with any of the big cams, but I do know the x-2 is a beast in the trails 8)
Your choice of intake and TB size will determine your RPM range the most, but a big cam with with a longer duration like the web 4 will help maximize on that range.
Also, you need to consider not only what will give you the best power for your application, but how much power will the track/course hold. Even with 15-36 gears at 9K feet, the tq of my bike makes me oversteer badly on corner exit. Power is only as good as what you can put to the ground for your races.
Personally, I think your 770 was plenty, but you're the racer not me.
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 29, 2011, 07:51:01 AM
Your choice of intake and TB size will determine your RPM range the most, but a big cam with with a longer duration like the web 4 will help maximize on that range.
the tq of my bike makes me oversteer badly on corner exit.
That's not torque you goof, that's from lack of better suspension and tires...... CRIPES
Quote from: 4gunz4x4z on July 29, 2011, 08:04:15 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 29, 2011, 07:51:01 AM
Your choice of intake and TB size will determine your RPM range the most, but a big cam with with a longer duration like the web 4 will help maximize on that range.
the tq of my bike makes me oversteer badly on corner exit.
That's not torque you goof, that's from lack of better suspension and tires...... CRIPES
I've tried almost every tire on the market now. The HS GNCCs are by far the best for me. Suspension on the rear of atv's is not like cars. The atv rear is designed more to handle air time and the subsequent landing, whoops impact, ect. vice maintaining traction in corners. Not much can be done there with a solid axle anyway.
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 29, 2011, 08:11:49 AM
Quote from: 4gunz4x4z on July 29, 2011, 08:04:15 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 29, 2011, 07:51:01 AM
Your choice of intake and TB size will determine your RPM range the most, but a big cam with with a longer duration like the web 4 will help maximize on that range.
the tq of my bike makes me oversteer badly on corner exit.
That's not torque you goof, that's from lack of better suspension and tires...... CRIPES
I've tried almost every tire on the market now. The HS GNCCs are by far the best for me. Suspension on the rear of atv's is not like cars. The atv rear is designed more to handle air time and the subsequent landing vice maintaining traction in corners. Not much can be done there with a solid axle anyway.
There rear shock has more control then you think. I agree, GNCC's or RazR's are superior. Sounds like somebody needs a new suspension and his name rhymes with Lolorado700r..
I go on camera for 90 minutes and return to this. :rofl:
I agree with Gunz. The 15/36 that I had and you have is not a great gearing for the woods. However it doesnt cause the oversteer effect. Thats camber, tire pressure and suspension. Unless i'm misunderstanding what you are saying.
What I found on the 15/36 set up is that coming out of a corner I had to wait for the power arrive. If I could maintain mid 3rd gear on the trails I had a lot of fun, but if I had to climb or downshift I wasn't getting anywhere out of corners fast. I also noticed this lug on the MX track when I come out of corners with slower acceleration as the smaller 450's. Once I hit the mid range I was untouchable.
Krandall - Is the X2 installed on the atv I timed at St. Anthony's? I felt that low end, is was nice but I didn't get a feel for it because I had to return to the trailer. It did feel really good.
Colorado - The only reason I don't stick to the 770 (I agree with you about it being enough) is because now that I have the means, I don't want to come home and find that I need even more and the motor has to be redone again. Even Shaun finds himself adding to his trail runner. I'd rather have the power and not need it than need the power and wish I had it.
Gunny, I do need better suspension...no doubt. But I think the reason you don't have the same experience as I do has to do more with the length of your quad versus the stock length. I don't have near the corner over steer on my extended swing arm as I did at stock length. But, with that extra length, we also loose a touch of cornering speed and overall nimbleness required to run GNCC.
Quote from: Alkire193 on July 29, 2011, 08:52:36 AM
Krandall - Is the X2 installed on the atv I timed at St. Anthony's? I felt that low end, is was nice but I didn't get a feel for it because I had to return to the trailer. It did feel really good.
Yep, that's what was in there.
What about the turbo?
Quote from: funyun on July 29, 2011, 03:23:43 PM
What about the turbo?
That one im happy to share about. Glad you asked. Racer Productions (owns and operates the GNCC) said they wouldn't allow it to run. I had them on the edge of allowing it for one season because the GNCC rules are vague, and the AMA rulings say no superchargers and nitrous, then in another section they say no turbochargers (conflicting rules). Also, AMA states things like, no hi comp pistons, CC's must be stamped onto the cylinder, etc. No one follows the rules, so I asked if they would let me slip by with a turbo. They almost went for it then deemed it an unfair advantage that could cause a danger to younger riders (being run down by awesomeness). The turbo will still be built, im still very interested in completing it, however a second build was started for the actual racing. That is what this thread is about.
Also, the first build contains whatever this build doesnt so I can mix and match. Fox floats on one, EXITs on the other, OMF/ Douglas wheels on one, HiPer on the other, Maxxis Razr 2's on one, GNCC's and GBC afterburns for the other (afterburns for muddy races), etc. So if I decide I want to exchange a part its right there on the other quad.
Colorado- I agree, I wouldnt go beyond +2 for GNCC. I had my +4 in the woods and it was fun but +2 would be ok I think with the right gearing and mods. Definetly cant be too wide or long for XC races. .5" wider each side and +2 long is enough IMO
If you serious about racing GNCC a 727 105 motor with a venom 14.1 piston, that would be plenty! Do a +1 port, hi compression, with a X-2 and a +3 TB. There is no way in HELL a 54mm TB would stay on in a full blown GNCC race. So far I havent had a issue with mine, but its in the back of my mind at ALL TIMES! Duals are out of the question too. A proven Sparks exhaust is simple, light and makes good HP. You will tear up a set of duals in no time with long travel shocks and all the harsh terrain. I would rather give up a couple of HP in the 6000+ RPM range for the insurence of not having exhaust issues. If your building a GNCC bike you HAVE to build it 100% that its not going to break down. Studs, Orings are all parts I would use if going high compression. I would leave the SCE gasket alone. The MLG's are just fine. I've been running it for 4 years with no issues.
FYI its Shawn, not Shaun :lol:
Thanks Shaun :rofl: :P My mistake, I knew it was a 50/50 chance to get the spelling right when I was typing it.
That's the first time I heard that before. 54mm fall off? Why can't they stay put?
I've got the Sparks Exhaust on the list already. I have seen a duals Raptor at GNCC and they didnt finish pretty. The whole sheet is built to be reliable, thats why I want to back off the bore and keep with the stroke. Definitely Hi-comp with belly skids and then a rotor/ sprocket guard from HSDRacing.com . Fuel tank is going to be made to have a 4 gal capacity. The list is huge to have this thing done right. But the motor is something id like more input on. Keep talking, I was hoping you would reply on here eventually.
I thought about skipping the FCI intake and going with a more OEM set up, larger intake hose, larger filter but keep the airbox with an Outerwear's filter on the top and possibly and Outerwear's on the filter itself for the really muddy races. Or races where I ford a river. Otherwise I need to find a way to protect the filter in the FCI w/box set up and im stumped on that.
I was also thinking of stripping the wires and cables for the lights and trying to do a one off airflow kit like the 450's have. Seal off the Raptors hood and flow the air through the ducting where the headlights should be. Its been effective for the 450 riders I see with it and the Raptors radiator gets blocked almost every race. Its a better use than having lights ill never turn on. Any thoughts?
I've been meaning to replay, just havent found the time.
I dont know if I'd worry too much about the grill and mud. The race I did was a nasty sloppy mess. Ranined/snowed most of the race and this is how my bike looked half way into the race.
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/preddy08/ae91b536.jpg)
This is my build thread, not "Preddy shows off his awesome racing photos" thread :lol: Look at the determination in his eyes :batman:
What race was that where they had you riding at night?
This is mine after I got her home. Halfway in it looked about the same (we raced after it rained all week). One female rider I passed was sitting on a hill, her quad sunk to the handlebars in the river I had to ford. Gotta love it
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d162/bit646/P8270008.jpg)
I learned a lot from this race. Handlebars were too low, suspension was worse than stock, atv was too low, HC2/Ebay Filter/TBR exhaust = FAIL against built 450's, front tires were stock AND bald, goggles were useless after 10 minutes, radiator was left exposed, no airbox around the filter, bad nikasil coating caused smoking and power loss. 36/15 gearing is stupid on a 686 with 40hp :rofl: , no belly skid installed, installing your bumper with bolts instead of zip ties makes it stay installed longer.....*sigh* glad I wont be that unprepared again :thumbs:
Nice Colorado, I used to have one of those trucks :lol:
How have those C-series rears held up? I have those on both my raptor and yfz, and was wondering if they ever had problems in extreme use conditions...
The studs wore out the holes very easily on the 2 sets I have owned. Honestly, ive never had any issue with the wheels when I race. But you can bend them or slip a bead easily. As for a basic weekend warrior wheel, they do ok. 3 out of 5 if I had to rate them for average weekend trail use.
I never really noticed that with my lugs but I'll keep an eye on that. And I think I have ripped a bead already, I had a problem with one of my rear tires staying up, even took it to a tire store. ended up filling it with slime which throws off the balance.
What intake system were you looking at again?
I'd like to go with something similar to the FCI w/ box set up. Use a stock air box, replace the lid with the outerwears lid then it should be good. Keeps the muck out
All of the color schemes on this page are interesting. All blacked out with a sharp AOT graphics kit to accent the atv OR the red frame on black and white with the AOT graphics kit to make it more attractive. Either way, im pretty sure it will end up as one of these because red frame is the color i've wanted since the start.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1d1OMhUPzz8/TId2ZbrLvPI/AAAAAAAAFBw/WZioKtkE7iU/s1600/2011+Yamaha+Raptor+700R+SE.jpg
This is more like the 2011 SE with a graphics kit/ slate topper, slate nerfs ~
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d162/bit646/RaptorRWB.jpg)
I thought this was very sharp ~
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d162/bit646/RaptorRB.jpg)
since you mention AOT i have to show you the work they did for me
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/ekoso/raptor%20mods%20and%20pics/DSC08911.jpg)
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/ekoso/raptor%20mods%20and%20pics/DSC08939.jpg)
Quote from: kamakazi on August 07, 2011, 08:20:57 AM
since you mention AOT i have to show you the work they did for me
Very nice Kami!
I won't show the proof Mike did for me until it gets color matched to the quad. Mike does awesome work though, I was amazed. :thumbs:
Quote from: kamakazi on August 07, 2011, 08:20:57 AM
since you mention AOT i have to show you the work they did for me
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/ekoso/raptor%20mods%20and%20pics/DSC08911.jpg)
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h156/ekoso/raptor%20mods%20and%20pics/DSC08939.jpg)
That is the best set of graphics I have ever seen on a quad. Ever!!! Man those are truly badass..... Kamakaze, why do you have the word kamikaze misspelled?
FYI, that was my handle over the road when I was a truck driver, I've had that name ever since I had my offroad club "4 gunz 4x4z" when I was a kid.
thanks gunny, i like the graphics as well, mike did do a very nice job putting the picture in my head onto vinyl. as for the spelling of kamakazi, its just my twist on it, didnt really want to be associated with the pilots, just a nickname ive had since i was a teenager.
Alkrie, sorry for hijacking your thread, was not my intention :thumbs:
not at all bud, I got my answers, ill be adding pics as the build progresses later. those are some nice graphics though, thank you for sharing
Gonna transfer the build to Preddy08 :clap: see first page for updates!
Bought some LSR lightweight front wheel hubs as spares today from a guy on MR. They have a sealed bearing cap to keep the muck out. It was between those and Hardkor wheel hubs for the build, these were cheaper and looked better IMO. Need to get both the new set and the spare set anodized or PC'd when it all comes together.
Also, sent a message to TRF about rebuilding the motor with all my goodies. Waiting for a response to get things in motion.
Lots of other things starting to move on this build, hopefully some pictures start pouring in early September time frame.
Also, color scheme will most likely be Yamaha SEII Yellow, black frame with black AOT graphics and colored logos. Mike Dudas can make a kit to cover most of the atv's plastics now so ill try to cover as much of the large yellow areas as possible for a really neat look! :clap: :clap:
I'm really looking forward to doing a XC build. These duner bikes are for little sissy girls!
Whats up with your motor? I wouldnt mind doing it myself.
Heck yea, XC rules!
Beau from Team Rocket Factory just replied as is ok with what I was going for:
-KDS Stage 2 head with X-4 cam, refreshed and rebuilt
-105.5/105 14:1 piston (can't settle on the piston)
-SCE copper gasket with re-plated cylinder, cylinder and head grooved to create the "barrier" in the copper gasket to relieve head gasket issues. welded and re-drilled water ports
-Barker +6mm crank with Falicon rebuild (they can rebuild it, they have the technology....)
-new cases
-new bearings
-new tranny forks
-gigot clutch
this list goes on. You sure you want to tackle this? I wanted to make it easier on you than having to do all the engine work alone.
I really think you'd be better off buying a OEM motor and taking the entire bottom end (minus the crank) and using it.
Have you priced out case half's and tranny gears? Of the top of my head i think its gonna be 2500+
I've seen stock motors sell for 1200 bucks, and you get to sell/keep the cylinder and head.
$518 for the crank case, I haven't looked at the transmission yet. The gear sets are ok, the forks looked like they were heat damaged or treated (Ebay purchase) so they will need to be replaced.
The one crank bearing $51.00, $60.00 balancer bearings, $300-$350 transmission bearings, $150 for new forks. The only reason im interested in piecing it together is the fact that all the components are new and undamaged factory parts vs a low hours motor that I don't know how its been treated.
If I can find a low hours part out with a decent bottom end ill jump on it, otherwise it will have to be piece by piece. Do you know any good bottom ends running around?
all bottom ends on this site are well used and abused.
:rofl:
Left myself wide open for that one. Well played sir..... :rofl:
Got your message Chris. I get back to the states the 23rd. I'll see what I can do after that :thumbs:
Quote from: Colorado700R on August 16, 2011, 06:17:28 PM
Got your message Chris. I get back to the states the 23rd. I'll see what I can do after that :thumbs:
Take your time, you have better things to do than a road trip when you get back. Still waiting on Shawn to finish practicing atv rebuilding on Mike's atv :rofl:
Quote from: Krandall on August 16, 2011, 01:45:52 PM
all bottom ends on this site are well used and abused.
:rofl:
OOOOOOHHH MAN!!!! I'm getting HAWT
did someone say "bottom end"
First off I'd like to say sorry to Chris and anyone else who is following this build. My life has settled down and I'm able to commit a good amount of time to Chris's bike.
Yesterday I started sorting out some details. Spoke with Chris today about it. Got some shit hammered out. I have most of the parts I need, but need some minor parts to get the ball rolling to really get it lookin good.
Here's some pics of what I tossed together to get Chris Amped up again.
The grey is a custom that my shop put together for me. Its a one off and IMO look freeking amazing! These pics are taken in my dark garage right around midnight. The misc blue parts on the bike are matched exactly to what Houser uses on their nerfs and what Yamaha uses on the plastic. Keep in mind this is in a dark garage, in the sunlight they will POP like no other! Tons of sparkle.
Drop panties Chris and commence lubrication :lol:
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/preddy08/DSC00510.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/preddy08/DSC00511.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/preddy08/DSC00512.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/preddy08/DSC00513.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/preddy08/DSC00515.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/preddy08/DSC00516.jpg)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/preddy08/DSC00517.jpg)
Chris was worried about too much blue if I PC'ed some parts blue, but I think the upper arms look really good. I might tie in some more blue as the project goes on, but for now this looks really good IMO! Keep in mind the plastic will be blue with custom graphics (not whats on there) and the wheels will be Hipers with blue rings.
One comment about the dog in the corner and I'll murder some bishes! Thats her spot and thats where she'll stay :bird:
Preddy, are you a queen?
The Queen has Corgi's...........
Quote from: preddy08 on June 17, 2012, 12:30:57 AM
One comment about the dog in the corner and I'll murder some bishes! Thats her spot and thats where she'll stay :bird:
I kept asking, "What dog?" Then the picture loaded and I had flashbacks to the Grudge movies. Dog is creeping me out.
Love the photos! That gunmetal looks great!! Quadtech F'ed up the seat though. It was supposed to be black black blue, not silver. And I emailed them as such. Lets see how it ends up, did you ever order the second seat from the company you recommended?
Love the arms with the nerfs too!! This thing is lookin sah-ex-ee
Quote from: dragonz on June 17, 2012, 12:55:12 AM
Preddy, are you a queen?
The Queen has Corgi's...........
I'm comin for ya Dragon, its murderin time!!!!! :P
Its the wifes dog, she sits in the corner and minds her own biz-nasss.
So SHUTTY!
Quote from: Alkire193 on June 17, 2012, 01:04:44 AM
Quote from: preddy08 on June 17, 2012, 12:30:57 AM
One comment about the dog in the corner and I'll murder some bishes! Thats her spot and thats where she'll stay :bird:
I kept asking, "What dog?" Then the picture loaded and I had flashbacks to the Grudge movies. Dog is creeping me out.
Love the photos! That gunmetal looks great!! Quadtech F'ed up the seat though. It was supposed to be black black blue, not silver. And I emailed them as such. Lets see how it ends up, did you ever order the second seat from the company you recommended?
Love the arms with the nerfs too!! This thing is lookin sah-ex-ee
No I never got around to getting ahold of the other seat company, I'll get on that this week.
The dog is fine with me, but a little curious to see what preds was thinkin with the screwdrivers? Anyone else thinking they won't hold up to alkys abuse? Starting to question this mans building tactics...
Why is the dog hiding in the corner... lookin skeeered?
:rofl:
Quote from: Krandall on June 17, 2012, 11:28:37 AM
Why is the dog hiding in the corner... lookin skeeered?
:rofl:
Live with preddy, you'd be one scared sumbitch too lol
Bike looks good Shawn. Fukin Alkires spare bike will be cooler than my only bike :lol: