Holy crap dont faint!
on topic post by peels!!! :nod:
Thinking if I have time Ill start on that hotcam this weekend. (if I have time) I want to have it in before the trip I hope to take in April, and get a dyno run down there.
Any last advice before I screw $hit up? THink I can handle the homemade tool thing. HOw long shold it take do you think? ;)
thanks fellas
OK fine then. :lol:
Watch the youtube videos. So easy a caveman could do it. So I dunno want krandall is classified as...
Quote from: Spartan727 on March 23, 2011, 11:31:09 AM
Watch the youtube videos. So easy a caveman could do it. So I dunno want krandall is classified as...
I did.
looking for any personal advice from guys who have done it.
ive done it a few times.... will most likely take you about 2.5 hrs
nothing real hard,,, dont drop the bolts or retainer plate in the motor
beware of the center decomp mechanism pin to not fall out into the motor
check your cam timing and set at TDC before removal and double check cam timing before final assemblie
needed tools.
feeler gauges from .004 thousandths and up
10 mm socket
8 mm socket
10 mm wrench
needle nose pliers
1 zip tie
BLUE medium strength loctite (for the cam retainer plate bolts)
RED permanent strength loctite (for the cam sprocket and decompression bolts)
Cam removal tool (6mm allthread and 1/2 in pcv pipe, nut and large washer)
RECOMMENDED to use a IN/LB TORQUE WRENCH
75-80 in/lbs on the retainer bolts
160-180 in/lbs on the cam sprocket bolts
Peels which Hot Cam you go with?
You ever think about a programmable ignition ?
Quote from: Bert on March 23, 2011, 03:13:48 PM
Peels which Hot Cam you go with?
You ever think about a programmable ignition ?
stage 2 and no, absolutely never will put that on my bike. :lol:
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on March 23, 2011, 03:44:37 PM
Quote from: Bert on March 23, 2011, 03:13:48 PM
Peels which Hot Cam you go with?
You ever think about a programmable ignition ?
stage 2 and no, absolutely never will put that on my bike. :lol: (unless I find one for 25 bucks)
:confused: figures...
Quote from: Spartan727 on March 23, 2011, 03:56:47 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on March 23, 2011, 03:44:37 PM
Quote from: Bert on March 23, 2011, 03:13:48 PM
Peels which Hot Cam you go with?
You ever think about a programmable ignition ?
stage 2 and no, absolutely never will put that on my bike. :lol: (unless I find one for 25 bucks)
:confused: figures...
not even then.....
Its very easy. The homeade tool does all the work for you.
Make sure when you are adjusting the valves you hold the top of them while you tighten the nut though.
Other than that follow the torque specs and you'll be good to go.
Quote from: DL700 on March 23, 2011, 11:48:47 AM
ive done it a few times.... will most likely take you about 2.5 hrs
nothing real hard,,, dont drop the bolts or retainer plate in the motor
beware of the center decomp mechanism pin to not fall out into the motor
check your cam timing and set at TDC before removal and double check cam timing before final assemblie
needed tools.
feeler gauges from .004 thousandths and up
10 mm socket
8 mm socket
10 mm wrench
needle nose pliers
1 zip tie
BLUE medium strength loctite (for the cam retainer plate bolts)
RED permanent strength loctite (for the cam sprocket and decompression bolts)
Cam removal tool (6mm allthread and 1/2 in pcv pipe, nut and large washer)
RECOMMENDED to use a IN/LB TORQUE WRENCH
75-80 in/lbs on the retainer bolts
160-180 in/lbs on the cam sprocket bolts
oh snap. Completely missed this excellent post behind all the BS. Thanks you very much DL. :)
Note: this job is way easier than I trumped myself up to expect.
Not done yet though. Couldnt find my loctite and stopped til I could go get some. We know about the bad juju of bolts falling out :(
yep, so easy even peelzy can do it...
That means I have a good shot and doing it on my own. :rofl:
Quote from: Spartan727 on March 29, 2011, 04:06:06 PM
yep, so easy even peelzy can do it...
hey... :bird: :lol:
I pull the cam out(and install it) fully assembled. I loosen up the adjustment fully on the rockers, take out the cam retaining plate, take out the intake rocker, spin the cam over to were you can get the exhaust rocker out and slide the cam out. Reverse the procedure to install.
I dont take the decompression parts off until the cam is out and then swap it over to the new cam and then put the new cam in.
You ever done one on an 09+ yet? where the cam bearing stays in the head? I was reading that supposedly that made it easier to take the cam out without removing the rocker pins...
That is correct. The only reason you have to pull the rockers is to clear the cam bearing on the end of the cam. The 09+ bikes have a slip fit bearing were the bearing is pressed into the cam journal of the cylinder head. If your gonna install a 08 and under cam just press the bearing off the end and machine .001" or so off the cam were the bearing goes so it will slip snuggly into the bearing in the cylinder head.
so what about the other way around? say someone has an 08 down head and get a 09 cam without the bearing? can they just pop off the old bearing and install it on the new cam? this question came up earlier on the shoutbox today.
really really much easier than I thought. Marking that chain where the cam gear TDC mark is was the best thing I could've done....
fired right up. idle sounds less "puss-like" :lol:
valves tickin though. need adjusted.
Press the bearing off the stock cam, slip it on to the 09 cam and slide the cam/bearing into the cylinder head.