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Title: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Livingmylife93 on October 16, 2010, 10:42:04 PM
What is the advantage of these over the stock style?

These are the ones that have two lines coming directly off the resevoir.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ASR-Yamaha-Raptor-700-MX-Pro-Racing-Brake-Lines-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem53e42da9f0QQitemZ360310483440QQptZMotorsQ5fATVQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
Title: Re: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Alkire193 on October 17, 2010, 03:38:54 AM
That looks more like a generic advertising picture for the product.

Your brake lines will have one line coming from the reservoir to a junction ("T" or "y" block) and two lines coming off of there going to the front brake calipers.

Title: Re: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Spartan on October 17, 2010, 04:56:26 AM
No there is another type of brake line system that goes straight from the MC to the brake calipers, which is the dual line style. It is supposedly more equal in braking...I've tried it but I couldn't get my system to pressurize and went to a T style.
Title: Re: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Livingmylife93 on October 17, 2010, 06:14:50 AM
Quote from: Spartan727 on October 17, 2010, 04:56:26 AM
No there is another type of brake line system that goes straight from the MC to the brake calipers, which is the dual line style. It is supposedly more equal in braking...I've tried it but I couldn't get my system to pressurize and went to a T style.

Yea, thats what im talking about...
So it didnt work out for you?
Title: Re: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Spartan on October 17, 2010, 06:39:41 AM
Well for me I had problems, but I always have problems with stuff :lol: I think Colorado700R is running a dual line setup on his...but yeah for me I had too many problems and went back to a new T style.
Title: Re: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Mad Dog on October 17, 2010, 08:59:28 AM
I have a dual line on the 700, t-style on the 660.  Don't really notice a difference in braking feel or distribution of force though both are stiffer than stock lines.

If your setup is working I wouldn't bother with changing it.
Title: Re: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Alkire193 on October 17, 2010, 03:09:04 PM
I dont think that auction is for a dual brake line set up. Looking at the sellers other auctions, that is a generic picture for steel braided hoses. The picture he has for a TRX is the same.  :confused:
Title: Re: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Spartan on October 17, 2010, 03:14:41 PM
QuoteYou are looking at American Stars Dual Stainless Steel DOT Approved PFTE Front Racing Brakelines.

From the auction..

The pictures may be generic but a lot of lines are similar lengths and looks.
Title: Re: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Krandall on October 18, 2010, 09:23:03 AM
I believe Aaron switched to a dual line setup.
Title: Re: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Livingmylife93 on October 18, 2010, 02:14:24 PM
Im switching because im getting +3 a-arms soon, so i need longer lines...
Title: Re: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Colorado700R on October 18, 2010, 03:37:30 PM
I have the dual line setup from speedlinez they have a double banjobolt out of the resivior (one to each caliper).  the advantage is more available fluid pressure.  My front brakes are extremely sensative now, and i litteraly use one finger to brake in some trail cornering.

I think I paid $70.00 for the setup from speedlinez.

Aaron
Title: Re: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Colorado700R on October 18, 2010, 03:39:55 PM
here's the link http://www.speedlinez.com/ATVBrakelines.html . they are available for up to +3 arms for 69.99 + 7.00 shipping.

Aaron
Title: Re: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Kamakazi on October 18, 2010, 04:20:37 PM
aaron, can you post some pictures of your installed lines and all of the connecting points?
Title: Re: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Mad Dog on October 18, 2010, 07:59:12 PM
Quote from: kamakazi on October 18, 2010, 04:20:37 PM
aaron, can you post some pictures of your installed lines and all of the connecting points?

There are two points for each line, one at the brake rez on the bars and one at the brakes themselves.
Title: Re: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Alkire193 on October 23, 2010, 03:20:27 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on October 18, 2010, 03:37:30 PM
I have the dual line setup from speedlinez they have a double banjobolt out of the resivior (one to each caliper).  the advantage is more available fluid pressure.  My front brakes are extremely sensative now, and i litteraly use one finger to brake in some trail cornering.

I think I paid $70.00 for the setup from speedlinez.

Aaron


id like to hear more about this, this is the first ive heard of a dual banjo off the reservoir. Sorry to mislead the initial poster..... :(
Title: Re: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Colorado700R on October 23, 2010, 04:45:53 PM
it just stacks the brakeline heads between washers on a banjo bolt with two ports spaced perfectly for the line heads.
Title: Re: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Alkire193 on October 23, 2010, 05:57:14 PM
<---- is officially hijacking your thread  :lol:

Im interested because a more sensitive front brake with decrease the motion for my hands. The more I have to reach out and pull in fully to the grip, the larger the risk of cramping in the palm.

How much more sensitive are we talking? How much are you pulling to stop?

Any downside? Leaking? Inconsistent braking? Binding around the steering stem? Stress on the reservoir bolt when turning full right or full left? Details MAN I NEED DETAILS!  :P

Title: Re: What is the advantage of dual brake lines?
Post by: Colorado700R on October 23, 2010, 06:21:49 PM
Quote from: Alkire193 on October 23, 2010, 05:57:14 PM
<---- is officially hijacking your thread  :lol:

Im interested because a more sensitive front brake with decrease the motion for my hands. The more I have to reach out and pull in fully to the grip, the larger the risk of cramping in the palm.

How much more sensitive are we talking? How much are you pulling to stop?

Any downside? Leaking? Inconsistent braking? Binding around the steering stem? Stress on the reservoir bolt when turning full right or full left? Details MAN I NEED DETAILS!  :P



well you rode the thing in sand, so that don't help judge much, but on loamy dirt with good front tires a panic brake will put you over the bars REAL quick.

Braking is much firmer than stock lines, fast 4-5th gear trail riding is use at most two fingers on the lever, and total movement is just barely beyond the master cylinder "click"

Haven't had any leak issues at all, very consistant, haven't noticed binding and the resi has not had any issue thus far (Had this on for 1.5 years).  I do believe that this setup will make you go through more front break pads due to the increase in pressure, and the confidence it gives you to dive bomb corners harder. But i don't see that as a negative at all.