Hello all.
I've spent the past 5 years...and about all my money modding and riding another brand... :rolleyes: It is now about all it's ever gonna be and I so figured, OK...done. Sooo...a few days back, as I was wasting valuable time...browsing Craigs List and sure enough, I came across what ended up being a steal deal on an 06 Raptor so I thought :nana:. I've been told by more than one, that this is the bike to have.
Now I'm in a whoooole new world that I know absolutely nothing about, other than that this thing is the fastest (and dirtiest) stock anything I've ever ridden! :jaw: I'm now the proud owner of a what seems to be a pretty well used bone stock 700. So tonight's the night to dump the oil, tear off all the blue plastics and start luvn on 'er. Heck I haven't even found the oil filter cover yet... :lol:
I figure that I'm just gonna have to start the way I did with my first love and read, read, read, but I also want to say that I would welcome any information, tips, tricks, and help from what appears is gonna be a bunch of new friends in the Yammy world. I'm comin' from carbs in the 400...440...and finally 470 world to EFI on monster CCs stock! I'm told by some that once you go Rappy... Well anyway, I'm looking forward to slowly going broke and bankrupt yet again, but I'd like to do it making less mistakes. Post or PM me anything you feel an ultranoob needs to know right out of the shoot.
Thanks!
Welcome ;)
Sell it & buy a Black '03 660................LOL
sounds like a nice deal you got there
What kind of ideas do you have? I went along ways to get to the kind of speed I have now. A couple of things that are killing our bikes from the stock pov, is the intake and exhaust. A bigger intake and a more proven exhaust will open up the potential of the stock motor. When you add these two, and you will, you'll need a fuel controller. Such as dobeck or dynojet powercommander. As far as intakes, bigger is better no matter what. Exhaust, well that's a biggie. The arguement of single vs duals is substantial, yet the duals, being more expensive rule the raptor world. Like you said, do your homework.
Quote from: quakerstate770 on September 10, 2010, 10:13:21 PM
What kind of ideas do you have? I went along ways to get to the kind of speed I have now. A couple of things that are killing our bikes from the stock pov, is the intake and exhaust. A bigger intake and a more proven exhaust will open up the potential of the stock motor. When you add these two, and you will, you'll need a fuel controller. Such as dobeck or dynojet powercommander. As far as intakes, bigger is better no matter what. Exhaust, well that's a biggie. The arguement of single vs duals is substantial, yet the duals, being more expensive rule the raptor world. Like you said, do your homework.
Great advice and welcome aboard :thumbs:
yep...let this thing breathe, and you will be surprised. Intake especially. And I have the cheap one. But it made a big difference in the low end feel. Big displacement motor, it is just plugged up.
I ripped out the sparky and put in a phoenix sparky (same as getting a slip-on) cheap intake, and a dobeck style FI controller. Total of around $160, and I can immediately feel the difference. (for the cost)
If it is mad power you re after, then BIg 3 with duals will get you where you want to be.. :thumbs:
welcome to the madness.
Welcome aboard man!!!!!
There's lots of great people and great advice to be had here!!!
Welcome to RS....main thing of all is enjoy your quad :lol: I loved mine when it was stock, but it was my first sport quad and the power was unbelievable then.
I dont know things, I will help you :thumbs:
Quote from: Spartan727 on September 12, 2010, 12:49:17 PM
Welcome to RS....main thing of all is enjoy your quad :lol: I loved mine when it was stock, but it was my first sport quad and the power was unbelievable then.
Now..... we whine when we .5 hp low at 8000 rpm :lol:
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on September 12, 2010, 05:35:11 PM
Quote from: Spartan727 on September 12, 2010, 12:49:17 PM
Welcome to RS....main thing of all is enjoy your quad :lol: I loved mine when it was stock, but it was my first sport quad and the power was unbelievable then.
Now..... we whine when we .5 hp low at 8000 rpm :lol:
:rofl: Supporting mods are a beeyutch :(
Welcome. I went from a red 440 myself to a 700....what a difference. :jaw:
When you get bored with the power, start with the big 3 and look into a 15t sprocket (depending on what type of riding you do). I started with Barkers, GYTR filter and PCIII, and the increase was more than I expected...but again, I'm starting to get bored with it. The potential in these motors is the great part...you can make as much power as your wallet allows.
This link should help you out greatly:
http://raptorsource.com/manuals/raptor_700.pdf
Welcome to the site, and the Rappy World :cheers:
Quote from: Alkire193 on September 12, 2010, 02:50:53 PM
I dont know things, I will help you :thumbs:
sound advice chris.
:lol:
Hey, thank you guys for the welcoming and for all the good advice. If I knew how to add multiple post quotes into one reply I could address some posts together in that reply. Let me know how that's done and I will try it.
Is it worth just going to the PC5 right from the get go, vs PClll? I take it you're unanimous on the PC being the best. Any other recommendation for similar results for less $$$?
For stock bore without going to high comp, (besides price) would I do better to consider a single instead of duals?
Anyone do the YFZ front shocks with the GTT rear link on the stocker?
Thanx
on the right side of posts, you should see "quote"
bam and bam :)
As far as shocks go. I had YFZ fronts on my rappy for a bit (found a deal on a-arms / shocks about 3 months later) but the time I DID have them on it was a NIGHT and DAY difference. so much smoother.
for the price, its a solid mod.
As far as single vs. duals.
There's a SOLID gain when comparing the 2 to make the cost worth while. If there's ANY doubt in your mind that you'll upgrade the motor in the future. Its best to get it out of the way.
I had my stock pipe for 4 months.
bought an HMF full pipe setup.. Had that for about 6 months. And sold it and bought barker duals. Haven't looked back since.
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pipe shoot out
http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?topic=3655.0
Quote from: Krandall on September 13, 2010, 06:31:11 PM
As far as shocks go. I had YFZ fronts on my rappy for a bit (found a deal on a-arms / shocks about 3 months later) but the time I DID have them on it was a NIGHT and DAY difference. so much smoother.
for the price, its a solid mod.
As far as single vs. duals.
There's a SOLID gain when comparing the 2 to make the cost worth while. If there's ANY doubt in your mind that you'll upgrade the motor in the future. Its best to get it out of the way.
I had my stock pipe for 4 months.
bought an HMF full pipe setup.. Had that for about 6 months. And sold it and bought barker duals. Haven't looked back since.
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Ok, along with the GTT link how would you pit the YFZ shocks with a works triple rate spring upgrade rated for a 200lb rider, against 08 SE stockers. I weigh 205+, ride mostly xc with 2 or so visits to the dunes each year and as said, want to lower with the GTT and will eventually go to +2 arms. You've prolly seen both in the FS. I'm also concerned about the front being too high with the linkge.
I heard the kinda the opposite tonight from a member. He said that he had the YFZs and that they were way too muchy due to the way they set up on the 700 and terrible to ride with. I figure that the SEs are set up factory for about a 165-75lb rider aren't they? He mentioned that his were set up for a 200lb rider ( Editing a miss understanding here. He said that they "worked well" for a 200lb rider not "set up for") but I don't think that he has different springs...
Thanks
IMHO, anyone who went from pogos to YFZ shocks and didn't like them didn't take the time to dail them in correctly. In your case I think the works YFZ's will be good, especially with lowering the rear to help unload the front end a bit.
Aaron
Quote from: Colorado700R on September 17, 2010, 08:39:28 AM
IMHO, anyone who went from pogos to YFZ shocks and didn't like them didn't take the time to dail them in correctly. In your case I think the works YFZ's will be good, especially with lowering the rear to help unload the front end a bit.
Aaron
Hey Aaron, If the link lowers the rear by what I understand is about 1.5" and the stock Rappy shocks are taller than the YFZs wouldn't using the Raptor stockers in fact load up the rear suspension vs the front. Did you mean unload the rear a bit? Any idea how much the YFZs actually lower the front? I think as I am seeing it, I would have to put a stiffer spring on either one being that they are both coming off of stock length a-arms and I'm going to eventually end up with +2s when I find an affordable set....
the front does lower a little. don't remember the number. But I had the opportunity to ride a 700 with them. Felt pretty good. Looked like the bike sat flat, as opposed to the slight rise of the front stock. I am 190 lbs. and this was vs 660 pogos at the time. My stock SE shocks frickin rule.
But I would say custom sprung shocks might edge them out. Just a guess.
Quote from: zrappypappy414 on September 17, 2010, 09:42:35 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on September 17, 2010, 08:39:28 AM
IMHO, anyone who went from pogos to YFZ shocks and didn't like them didn't take the time to dail them in correctly. In your case I think the works YFZ's will be good, especially with lowering the rear to help unload the front end a bit.
Aaron
Hey Aaron, If the link lowers the rear by what I understand is about 1.5" and the stock Rappy shocks are taller than the YFZs wouldn't using the Raptor stockers in fact load up the rear suspension vs the front. Did you mean unload the rear a bit? Any idea how much the YFZs actually lower the front? I think as I am seeing it, I would have to put a stiffer spring on either one being that they are both coming off of stock length a-arms and I'm going to eventually end up with +2s when I find an affordable set....
I think you'll end up evening it out actually. if you lower the rear 1.5 w/ the GTT link. The YFZ shocks actually lower from stock pogo's to the YFZ's right around 1.25-1.50 inches. Depends on if the shocks were touched or not.
Quote from: Krandall on September 17, 2010, 02:21:00 PM
Quote from: zrappypappy414 on September 17, 2010, 09:42:35 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on September 17, 2010, 08:39:28 AM
IMHO, anyone who went from pogos to YFZ shocks and didn't like them didn't take the time to dail them in correctly. In your case I think the works YFZ's will be good, especially with lowering the rear to help unload the front end a bit.
Aaron
Hey Aaron, If the link lowers the rear by what I understand is about 1.5" and the stock Rappy shocks are taller than the YFZs wouldn't using the Raptor stockers in fact load up the rear suspension vs the front. Did you mean unload the rear a bit? Any idea how much the YFZs actually lower the front? I think as I am seeing it, I would have to put a stiffer spring on either one being that they are both coming off of stock length a-arms and I'm going to eventually end up with +2s when I find an affordable set....
I think you'll end up evening it out actually. if you lower the rear 1.5 w/ the GTT link. The YFZ shocks actually lower from stock pogo's to the YFZ's right around 1.25-1.50 inches. Depends on if the shocks were touched or not.
You know I think I may have to go with the SEs after all because if the YFZ shocks lower by 1.25-1.5" on stock a-arms then odds are that they will lose another 1-1.5" when mounted on +2s which is where i'll end up. At that, at 205+lbs soaking wet, they may even end up tooo mushy....Does that make sense?
Yeah, if you end up w/ +2's I wouldn't suggest the YFZ's.. Once you stretch the arms out you'll add more weight onto the shocks.