http://www.atkusa.com/documents/2008ATKATVVR.pdf
Engine Type: Liquid Cooled, 4-Stroke Single
DOHC 4- Valve Head
Displacement: 449cc
Bore & Stroke: 95 x 63.4mm
Horsepower / RPM 48HP @ 10,000 RPM
Compression Ratio: 12.3:1
Carburetion: Electronic Fuel Injection
Ignition: 12v Battery w Inductive Coil
Starting System: Electronic Start
Transmission: 5-Speed Cassette No Reverse
Clutch: Magura Hydraulic
Fuel Capacity: 3.2 Gallons
Wheel Base:
Length: 49.5"
Width: 73.5"
Front: 48.5" Rear: Adjustable Nominal 50"
Frame: Aluminum Perimeter Twin-Spar
Seat Height: 32.5"
Ground Clearance: 4.5"
Front Suspension: FOX Float X EVOL AirShox w 11" Travel
Rear Suspension: Ohlin 10" Travel
Front Brakes: Hydraulic Dual Disc. W Parking
Rear Brake: Hydraulic Single Disc.
Front Tire: Riders Option
Rear Tire: Riders Option
Dry Weight: 370 lbs
Drive: 2-Wheel Drive
Colors: Red & Black
2008 450 VR MSRP $7,995
2008 450 MX MSRP $11,495 :confused:
Looks like an excellent bike mechanically, with alot of optional accessories too. Making great horsepower as well. :thumbs: It just looks plain ugly. :confused:
the cannondales are sweet, verry exotic
I thought they might have better looking plastics by now ::)
man i bet these will sell just as good as the old cannondales :thumbs:
forgot to mention that is ugly as shit. and they used the same picture for the mx one even though it has different stuff. thats good advertising fuckheads,
Quote from: Polarass525 on June 17, 2008, 09:19:48 PM
I thought they might better looking plastics by now ::)
Agreed, they're still fugly :confused:
Quote from: Colorado700R on June 17, 2008, 09:44:23 PM
Quote from: Polarass525 on June 17, 2008, 09:19:48 PM
I thought they might better looking plastics by now ::)
Agreed, they're still fugly :confused:
They have always done that. They are pretty stupid
Any idea on ATK production #'s ? ?
I saw a Dale at the ice races last season, prior to that I hadn't seen one in person in quite a while...
I've almost bought two of them in the past, if I find one cheap I might still get one just because they are different.
Yea riding a KTM powered F.I.S. Polaris isn't different enough :rofl:
Quote from: Bert on July 15, 2008, 09:22:31 AM
Yea riding a KTM powered F.I.S. Polaris isn't different enough :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl:
Can't buy a Raptor like everybody else. :lol:
Quote from: Polarass525 on July 15, 2008, 12:05:31 PM
Can't buy a Raptor like everybody else. :lol:
buy a yfz then :clap:
When the Outlaw goes it will be for a KTM or a Rappy. Can't say which one yet because I have not rode a KTM yet.
Quote from: Polarass525 on July 15, 2008, 03:02:13 PM
When the Outlaw goes it will be for a KTM or a Rappy. Can't say which one yet because I have not rode a KTM yet.
its supposed to be dissappointing for the money but still badass
Quote from: Polarass525 on July 15, 2008, 03:02:13 PM
When the Outlaw goes it will be for a KTM or a Rappy. Can't say which one yet because I have not rode a KTM yet.
For the price they want for the KTMs, they better provide a good looking hooker as a "benefit"
:lol:
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 15, 2008, 03:06:28 PM
Quote from: Polarass525 on July 15, 2008, 03:02:13 PM
When the Outlaw goes it will be for a KTM or a Rappy. Can't say which one yet because I have not rode a KTM yet.
For the price they want for the KTMs, they better provide a good looking hooker as a "benefit"
:lol:
yea no shit :clap: :lol:
True, but I like the power delivery of the 525 and you do get a lot of stuff for the price.
Quote from: Polarass525 on July 15, 2008, 03:10:53 PM
True, but I like the power delivery of the 525 and you do get a lot of stuff for the price.
I'm beeting you could use the money saved by going with a rappy to mod it to out preform the KTM.
I don't remember ther specs, but I think the only diffrence would end up being weight, and it's not that major
I know the Rappy would be cheaper in the long run. It would be nice to have a lower Comp motor. It would also be less maintenance. I talked Bert into buying his in 2006 so I should take my own advice :lol: I really like the way the new ones look and they have came along way in the suspension department.
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 15, 2008, 03:20:12 PM
Quote from: Polarass525 on July 15, 2008, 03:10:53 PM
True, but I like the power delivery of the 525 and you do get a lot of stuff for the price.
I'm beeting you could use the money saved by going with a rappy to mod it to out preform the KTM.
I don't remember ther specs, but I think the only diffrence would end up being weight, and it's not that major
this is how I talked my buddy out of it. 7k$ for raptor + $1500 in mods will kill the ktm. Maybe not on a track, but everywhere else.
The 06 Raptor front shocks aren't the greatest that's for sure.
Otherwise the Raptor has been low maintenance :thumbs:
Great Machine
a buddy of mine has been trying to sell him cannondale, its kinda modded, if any1 is interested
cannondale cannibal 2002 440 with suspension +1.75 white bros. pipe nerfbars, duncan bumper trade for trx 450r or $3000 OBO
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l208/fox609x/050908212702.jpg)
(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l208/fox609x/050908212725.jpg)
:clap:
dang them things dont look no different from the old ones. ugly as hell. but i would like to have one
Quote from: Peels660 on July 15, 2008, 04:37:36 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 15, 2008, 03:20:12 PM
Quote from: Polarass525 on July 15, 2008, 03:10:53 PM
True, but I like the power delivery of the 525 and you do get a lot of stuff for the price.
I'm beeting you could use the money saved by going with a rappy to mod it to out preform the KTM.
I don't remember ther specs, but I think the only diffrence would end up being weight, and it's not that major
this is how I talked my buddy out of it. 7k$ for raptor + $1500 in mods will kill the ktm. Maybe not on a track, but everywhere else.
hmmmmmm
you gota look at the ktm before you judge it. the 700 was great, but it will need alot more then 1.5k in mods to " kill" the 525xc..
also i think that these quads are completly different, and its like compairing pumpkins to blueberries
Quote from: who else but rk on August 22, 2008, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on July 15, 2008, 04:37:36 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 15, 2008, 03:20:12 PM
Quote from: Polarass525 on July 15, 2008, 03:10:53 PM
True, but I like the power delivery of the 525 and you do get a lot of stuff for the price.
I'm beeting you could use the money saved by going with a rappy to mod it to out preform the KTM.
I don't remember ther specs, but I think the only diffrence would end up being weight, and it's not that major
this is how I talked my buddy out of it. 7k$ for raptor + $1500 in mods will kill the ktm. Maybe not on a track, but everywhere else.
hmmmmmm
you gota look at the ktm before you judge it. the 700 was great, but it will need alot more then 1.5k in mods to " kill" the 525xc..
also i think that these quads are completly different, and its like compairing pumpkins to blueberries
power wise I disagree, suspension wise I agree.
Aaron
power wise the 700 is the best plant.
but the ktm will beat it every where besides that
Quote from: who else but rk on August 22, 2008, 01:23:15 PM
power wise the 700 is the best plant.
but the ktm will beat it every where besides that
I don't think the xc was involved in this thread comparison was it?
Quote from: Peels660 on July 15, 2008, 04:37:36 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 15, 2008, 03:20:12 PM
Quote from: Polarass525 on July 15, 2008, 03:10:53 PM
True, but I like the power delivery of the 525 and you do get a lot of stuff for the price.
I'm beeting you could use the money saved by going with a rappy to mod it to out preform the KTM.
I don't remember ther specs, but I think the only diffrence would end up being weight, and it's not that major
this is how I talked my buddy out of it. 7k$ for raptor + $1500 in mods will kill the ktm. Maybe not on a track, but everywhere else.
Quote from: Polarass525 on July 15, 2008, 03:26:47 PM
I know the Rappy would be cheaper in the long run. It would be nice to have a lower Comp motor. It would also be less maintenance. I talked Bert into buying his in 2006 so I should take my own advice :lol: I really like the way the new ones look and they have came along way in the suspension department.
Quote from: kyledvor61 on July 15, 2008, 03:03:28 PM
Quote from: Polarass525 on July 15, 2008, 03:02:13 PM
When the Outlaw goes it will be for a KTM or a Rappy. Can't say which one yet because I have not rode a KTM yet.
its supposed to be dissappointing for the money but still badass
just a few posts up from yours.......
Quote from: who else but rk on August 22, 2008, 01:23:15 PM
power wise the 700 is the best plant.
but the ktm will beat it every where besides that
tis' exactly what I posted...read again:
7k$ for raptor + $1500 in mods will kill the ktm. Maybe not on a track, but everywhere else.I don't ride a track. ;)
Those KTM's are ripping up the gncc series though. I won't say they are bad bikes, but they are too expensive to buy to just ride once or twice a month. Most of us don't get to ride that much, so the rest of the time is spent modding one part at time.(half of the fun) :thumbs: Raptor is a much better machine for me. I need quad to be low maintenance, durable, and easy to repair. Raptor is an easy win. Oh, and comfortable to ride all day.
Peels - I'm sure you noticed in RK's sig PUMPKIN LOVER
:rofl: He'll defend KTM until he switches brands :rolleyes:
yes, despite me having a raptor before and now have a ktm DIRTBIKE , ktms are better at every thing :rolleyes:
i said that same thing then and i will say the same thing now- the ktm is a better quad. if you dont agree you must not have seen the ktm. everything is a step up on the ktms, from the frame all the way down to the bolts.
Quote from: who else but rk on August 23, 2008, 08:04:40 AM
yes, despite me having a raptor before and now have a ktm DIRTBIKE , ktms are better at every thing :rolleyes:
i said that same thing then and i will say the same thing now- the ktm is a better quad. if you dont agree you must not have seen the ktm. everything is a step up on the ktms, from the frame all the way down to the bolts.
yep...it is a "step up"....in price! :rofl:
Quote from: Peels660 on August 23, 2008, 08:07:58 AM
Quote from: who else but rk on August 23, 2008, 08:04:40 AM
yes, despite me having a raptor before and now have a ktm DIRTBIKE , ktms are better at every thing :rolleyes:
i said that same thing then and i will say the same thing now- the ktm is a better quad. if you dont agree you must not have seen the ktm. everything is a step up on the ktms, from the frame all the way down to the bolts.
yep...it is a "step up"....in price! :rofl:
and?
you get what you pay for
Quote from: Peels660 on August 23, 2008, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: who else but rk on August 23, 2008, 10:28:42 PM
you get what you pay for
a 10,000 dollar pumpkin? :rofl:
id rather pay 10,000 for the pumpkin then $2000 for a 660 :lol:
Quote from: kyledvor61 on August 23, 2008, 11:01:37 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on August 23, 2008, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: who else but rk on August 23, 2008, 10:28:42 PM
you get what you pay for
a 10,000 dollar pumpkin? :rofl:
id rather pay 10,000 for the pumpkin then $2000 for a 660 :lol:
sure...you must have more cash than me, and get to ride more than me too. That pumpkin better carve itself for halloween or something for that price. :grin_nod:
Quote from: Peels660 on August 23, 2008, 11:04:01 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on August 23, 2008, 11:01:37 PM
Quote from: Peels660 on August 23, 2008, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: who else but rk on August 23, 2008, 10:28:42 PM
you get what you pay for
a 10,000 dollar pumpkin? :rofl:
id rather pay 10,000 for the pumpkin then $2000 for a 660 :lol:
sure...you must have more cash than me, and get to ride more than me too. That pumpkin better carve itself for halloween or something for that price. :grin_nod:
it better :'( :lol:
Its a great quad if you race, but for the dunner, drag racer, and trail rider it's a bit over kill.
Quote from: Polarass525 on August 24, 2008, 05:11:50 PM
Its a great quad if you race, but for the dunner, drag racer, and trail rider it's a bit over kill.
well said. :thumbs:
You can put Honda TRX 250 plastic on the Cannondale/ATKs, they look a lot better. As far as the quads and bikes go they used the best of everything for all the components. I have an 03 Cannondale 440 E motorcycle and love it.
When the engine craps out, I am thinking of mounting a Raptor 700 motor in it. That should be an awesome motorcycle to ride :grin_nod: