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Title: Compression HP gain chart
Post by: Kenny on December 12, 2009, 04:49:33 PM
I thought I would put up a chart for general compression gains. These gain are listed in %, and these are general guidelines. Notice the diminishing returns as compression ratio goes up. You can build a big power engine without high compression, but you will normally see more power up until combustion chamber shape or fuel quality becomes a problem :thumbs:

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee157/kennybasham/Compressiongains-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Compression HP gain chart
Post by: Colorado700R on December 12, 2009, 05:22:51 PM
what about TQ?
Title: Re: Compression HP gain chart
Post by: Troy on December 12, 2009, 05:23:43 PM
Damn, I need to get up to 16:1, that 15:1 isn't cutting it at all.
Title: Re: Compression HP gain chart
Post by: Kenny on December 12, 2009, 06:01:16 PM
See what I'm sayin'? :nod:
Title: Re: Compression HP gain chart
Post by: SprinterX on December 13, 2009, 12:06:13 PM
Quote from: troywcc on December 12, 2009, 05:23:43 PM
Damn, I need to get up to 16:1, that 15:1 isn't cutting it at all.

:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Compression HP gain chart
Post by: Krandall on December 15, 2009, 10:07:28 AM
15:1 is for girlz troy :lol:
Title: Re: Compression HP gain chart
Post by: preddy08 on December 15, 2009, 10:28:53 AM
Quote from: Krandall on December 15, 2009, 10:07:28 AM
15:1 is for girlz troy :lol:

Girls and THIS GUY  :P
Title: Re: Compression HP gain chart
Post by: Troy on December 15, 2009, 11:05:56 AM
I don't know why that made me think of that joke preddy, what has two thumbs and loves blowjobs?  THIS GUY!!!
Title: Re: Compression HP gain chart
Post by: preddy08 on December 15, 2009, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: troywcc on December 15, 2009, 11:05:56 AM
I don't know why that made me think of that joke preddy, what has two thumbs and loves blowjobs?  THIS GUY!!!

You can't see it but I typed that with two thumbs up, pointing to myself.  :rofl:


Title: Re: Compression HP gain chart
Post by: nikita on December 26, 2009, 09:28:54 AM
what about making this sticky? :thumbs:

it will good if u could add the gas octane number in the chart, sir
Title: Re: Compression HP gain chart
Post by: Kenny on January 07, 2010, 12:09:39 PM
About all that can be said about octane ratings are general guidelines each builder finds through experience on specific builds at his particular altitude. We normally find that a 12:1 Raptor motor will do just fine with a WEB 290 (4) on pump gas. Change that cam out for the RJ and you may find you'll need to do a mild mix in high temps with a hot motor......... A spark plug heat range change, a piston a piston with tighter squish, combustion chamber shape and seasonal fuel blending etc..... The Raptor motor will normally run at about 175° if you are riding at a fairly fast pace with plenty of airflow through the radiator, if you do a lot of slow technical riding the fan won't cut on till about 220°. That can make a huge difference. We have had motors that wanted to use race/pump blend at sea level with 11.5:1 at the same time we have specially built pump gas engines to over 13.7:1 on pump gas at sea level. It is just to broad to define. Even the age of your gas can change this....... :thumbs:
Title: Re: Compression HP gain chart
Post by: Tim Barker on January 09, 2010, 07:25:38 AM
Quote from: Kenny on January 07, 2010, 12:09:39 PM
About all that can be said about octane ratings are general guidelines each builder finds through experience on specific builds at his particular altitude. We normally find that a 12:1 Raptor motor will do just fine with a WEB 290 (4) on pump gas. Change that cam out for the RJ and you may find you'll need to do a mild mix in high temps with a hot motor......... A spark plug heat range change, a piston a piston with tighter squish, combustion chamber shape and seasonal fuel blending etc..... The Raptor motor will normally run at about 175° if you are riding at a fairly fast pace with plenty of airflow through the radiator, if you do a lot of slow technical riding the fan won't cut on till about 220°. That can make a huge difference. We have had motors that wanted to use race/pump blend at sea level with 11.5:1 at the same time we have specially built pump gas engines to over 13.7:1 on pump gas at sea level. It is just to broad to define. Even the age of your gas can change this....... :thumbs:

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Title: Re: Compression HP gain chart
Post by: VelociRaptor on January 09, 2010, 03:02:32 PM
Yeah! Answer your phone lol.
Title: Re: Compression HP gain chart
Post by: preddy08 on January 09, 2010, 04:44:57 PM
YES ANSWER YOU PHONE!!  :P  I need a TB bored form a YFZR