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Title: sprocket hub play
Post by: bustedplastic on September 18, 2009, 04:53:11 PM
So I was about to put a new chain on and I grabbed my rear sprocket and there is play front to back.  It's not a lot, but im sure this isnt good?  Do these hubs wear out?  Or is it possible the splines on my axle are shot?  Blah, sometimes i hate this thing.
Title: Re: sprocket hub play
Post by: Danny T on September 18, 2009, 05:00:21 PM
probably the carrier bearings are shot?

http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?topic=1488.0
Title: Re: sprocket hub play
Post by: Krandall on September 21, 2009, 11:57:57 AM
can't say I've had play in my sprocket. when you wiggle it, do you see the sprocket hub moving and not the axle?

If so. I'd go to the sprocket hub before I point at the axle.
Title: Re: sprocket hub play
Post by: bustedplastic on September 22, 2009, 12:22:17 AM
So ive got the axle out, and there is definitely play in the sprocket hub.  But how the hell do you get the sprocket hub off the axle?!? Service manual says theres a circlip, but i sure dont see one.  The microfiche doesnt even list one.  what am I missing?  The picture below shows the difference.  Any help would be appreciated!

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z187/madredr1/sprockethub.jpg)
Title: Re: sprocket hub play
Post by: Krandall on September 28, 2009, 08:50:03 AM
Theres one in there. You have to slide the axle out part way to the left (looking from the back,a nd then hit the sprocket hub to move it to the right. There should be a brass colored circlip in there. :thumbs:


that #19 in the bottom pic is actually an oring that seals between the bearing carrier and the sprocket hub.
Title: Re: sprocket hub play
Post by: bustedplastic on October 12, 2009, 11:05:54 AM
thanks, yeah, that circlip wasnt on any microfiche and it didnt come with the new hub, so i just reused the old one, it still went in tight, so should be ok... 
Title: Re: sprocket hub play
Post by: Peelz on October 12, 2009, 03:55:45 PM
on a side note, has anybody had trouble with their sprocket bolts working their way out? Bike brand new in Februray, Second time for mine. Time for some locktite.
Title: Re: sprocket hub play
Post by: Krandall on October 12, 2009, 04:04:23 PM
I had problems getting mine OUT! ::) :help:
Title: Re: sprocket hub play
Post by: bustedplastic on October 12, 2009, 04:38:46 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on October 12, 2009, 03:55:45 PM
on a side note, has anybody had trouble with their sprocket bolts working their way out? Bike brand new in Februray, Second time for mine. Time for some locktite.

Oh yeah, several times.  I was thinking of getting longer bolts and lockwashers, but i dont know if thats a good idea....  Red loctite has been holding well for the last couple rides though...
Title: Re: sprocket hub play
Post by: Ezkymco on October 14, 2009, 02:15:22 PM
Quote from: bustedplastic on September 18, 2009, 04:53:11 PM
So I was about to put a new chain on and I grabbed my rear sprocket and there is play front to back.  It's not a lot, but im sure this isnt good?  Do these hubs wear out?  Or is it possible the splines on my axle are shot?  Blah, sometimes i hate this thing.

I've got the same problem, I think it's due to water and dirt corroding the splines.  I'm gonna try loctite 660 which should take up the play, otherwise it's a new axle and hubs $$$ :'(  The only thing I'm worried about is whether It'll come apart if required. :confused:

http://www.loctite.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/henkel_uke/hs.xsl/2831_UKE_HTML.htm?iname=Loctite%C2%AE+660&countryCode=uke&BU=industrial&parentredDotUID=productfinder&redDotUID=1000000J02K (http://www.loctite.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/henkel_uke/hs.xsl/2831_UKE_HTML.htm?iname=Loctite%C2%AE+660&countryCode=uke&BU=industrial&parentredDotUID=productfinder&redDotUID=1000000J02K)
Title: Re: sprocket hub play
Post by: Peelz on October 14, 2009, 03:14:13 PM
you totally sure it isn't the whole axle wiggling right? I thought this once too, and it was my carrier bearings.
Title: Re: sprocket hub play
Post by: Ezkymco on October 15, 2009, 12:43:46 AM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on October 14, 2009, 03:14:13 PM
you totally sure it isn't the whole axle wiggling right? I thought this once too, and it was my carrier bearings.

I put the axle in a vice and put the hubs back on to check, and yup, there's play :(
Title: Re: sprocket hub play
Post by: bustedplastic on October 15, 2009, 11:52:44 AM
Quote from: Ezkymco on October 15, 2009, 12:43:46 AM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on October 14, 2009, 03:14:13 PM
you totally sure it isn't the whole axle wiggling right? I thought this once too, and it was my carrier bearings.

I put the axle in a vice and put the hubs back on to check, and yup, there's play :(

I bought a new hub and there's still a little bit of play, so either my axle is worn or i'm just wondering if there is a little from teh factory and i didnt notice it before....
Title: Re: sprocket hub play
Post by: Ezkymco on October 16, 2009, 02:53:31 AM
Quote from: bustedplastic on October 15, 2009, 11:52:44 AM
Quote from: Ezkymco on October 15, 2009, 12:43:46 AM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on October 14, 2009, 03:14:13 PM
you totally sure it isn't the whole axle wiggling right? I thought this once too, and it was my carrier bearings.

I put the axle in a vice and put the hubs back on to check, and yup, there's play :(

I bought a new hub and there's still a little bit of play, so either my axle is worn or i'm just wondering if there is a little from teh factory and i didnt notice it before....

Can someone with a nice newish Rappy check for us please, just put the park brake on and grab hold of the sproket and see if it moves on the axle.  Would be very greatful if someone could do this. :thumbs:

Thanks,
Pete
Title: Re: sprocket hub play
Post by: Krandall on October 16, 2009, 06:22:00 AM
I'm 99% sure that there's no play in my sprocket hub. But I'll check when I get home. :thumbs:
Title: Re: sprocket hub play
Post by: Bert on January 28, 2010, 04:31:40 PM
I noticed my 06 had play on the sprocket hub.  I talked with Kenneth @ KB Motorsports (sponsor here) and he said his YFZ was the same.  Figured it was just the aluminum alloy its made from. Gonna be loose after some riding.  I had a hard time getting my sprocket bolts out, they were in there.  :lol:  I did use locktite when reinstalling the bolts. Haven't had any issues yet.  For the guys worried about the bolts backing out what about using safety wire as an insurance policy?
Title: Re: sprocket hub play
Post by: wrekd on January 31, 2010, 10:25:32 PM
My sprocket hub has been loose for quite a while now. Didn't strip out yet, but Im waiting for it one of these days.