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Title: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: kyledvor61 on March 28, 2009, 11:35:22 AM
Picked up my new ride last night. It's a HOUSER 250r geometry frame with a YZ426 motor. Motor has a 450 cylinder so its the same as the yz450f dirtbike. The head is ported but I suspect theres more. Shorty exhaust.

Houser frame
PEP triple rate front shocks
Axis rear
Houser swinger
JD a-arms
Holeshots on back
beadlocks all around
burgard stem
Denton stabilizer

EVERYTHING AFTERMARKET. Theres only a few honda parts on it, so stfu :lol:

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/hybrid1.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/hybrid2.jpg)

Not the best lookin, but it sure as fast of the few laps I took last night.

Going to take it out in the yard for a bit, then on goes the stock exhaust :lol:

Let me know what you gus think.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: FoundArealQuad on March 28, 2009, 11:37:24 AM
Very nice.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on March 28, 2009, 01:31:58 PM
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/DSC03540.jpg) (http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/DSC03541.jpg) (http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/DSC03542.jpg) (http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/DSC03543.jpg)

Notice, NO LINK rear end, shock mounts directly to the swinger. Pretty trick i think (http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/DSC03548.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/DSC03545.jpg)


Notice all the travel :grin_nod: (http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/DSC03547.jpg) (http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/DSC03544.jpg)
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Peelz on March 28, 2009, 01:33:50 PM
No offense. I liked the yfz better.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on March 28, 2009, 01:37:59 PM
I like it better. Took a few laps round the yard. I felt very comfortable on it. Just my size. Front end is very nice so far, stays planted and very comfortable. Stabilizer feels very good, pinned it over some bumps and didnt even feel em.

Motor is a torque monster holy shit. throttle repsonse is truly incredible, I just cant describe it. Didnt get to ride for very long, but it seemed like it didnt rev out as much as the yfz. but all the power is down low, and i love it.

Peels just wondering, what makes you like the yfz better?
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on March 28, 2009, 01:43:12 PM
Also got 2 sets of handguards, filter, header, and Cylinder!


Not bad for $2700 I'd say :grin_nod:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Peelz on March 28, 2009, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on March 28, 2009, 01:37:59 PM
I like it better. Took a few laps round the yard. I felt very comfortable on it. Just my size. Front end is very nice so far, stays planted and very comfortable. Stabilizer feels very good, pinned it over some bumps and didnt even feel em.

Motor is a torque monster holy shit. throttle repsonse is truly incredible, I just cant describe it. Didnt get to ride for very long, but it seemed like it didnt rev out as much as the yfz. but all the power is down low, and i love it.

Peels just wondering, what makes you like the yfz better?

It didn't look like kids built it in shop class. :lol: j/k just playing, I know you wanted a built bike without paying a bunch. Congrats.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on March 28, 2009, 02:00:13 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on March 28, 2009, 01:54:38 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on March 28, 2009, 01:37:59 PM
I like it better. Took a few laps round the yard. I felt very comfortable on it. Just my size. Front end is very nice so far, stays planted and very comfortable. Stabilizer feels very good, pinned it over some bumps and didnt even feel em.

Motor is a torque monster holy shit. throttle repsonse is truly incredible, I just cant describe it. Didnt get to ride for very long, but it seemed like it didnt rev out as much as the yfz. but all the power is down low, and i love it.

Peels just wondering, what makes you like the yfz better?

It didn't look like kids built it in shop class. :lol: j/k just playing, I know you wanted a built bike without paying a bunch. Congrats.

ahh whatever old man :lol:

But thanks, I'm happy with it so far. Even if it is a total turd, I can part it out for wayyyyyy more :grin_nod:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Temptation on March 28, 2009, 02:13:07 PM
Lets see some video of it already..........................................................
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on March 28, 2009, 02:20:46 PM
Quote from: Temptation on March 28, 2009, 02:13:07 PM
Lets see some video of it already..........................................................
I've only taken it around the yard 3 times :lol:

I'll get one later, its sleeting right now, and theres a shit ton of snow on the way.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Danny T on March 28, 2009, 02:49:16 PM
is it lighter than the YFZ? looks sweet
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on March 28, 2009, 02:59:49 PM
Quote from: dmx434343 on March 28, 2009, 02:49:16 PM
is it lighter than the YFZ? looks sweet
I'm not completely sure, but I belive so. It's got no electric start, so thats 20 pounds less right there. and all the stuff is aftermarket so id assume its lighter.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: socalrappy700 on March 28, 2009, 03:51:44 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on March 28, 2009, 01:33:50 PM
No offense. I liked the yfz better.

I have to agree.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: dabigbratj on March 28, 2009, 08:12:58 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on March 28, 2009, 03:51:44 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on March 28, 2009, 01:33:50 PM
No offense. I liked the yfz better.

I have to agree.
+1
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Krandall on March 28, 2009, 10:53:21 PM
I'm disagreeing with Eric, Erich, and jake... F*cKIN BAD ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana:

If you part this sucker out you'll make it WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than your $2700 you have invested.. Nice buy man.. kinda ugly plastics. but if you shop around since its built w/ the 250r frame.. There's some SWEEEET options for you man! :batman:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: dabigbratj on March 28, 2009, 10:59:08 PM
Quote from: Krandall on March 28, 2009, 10:53:21 PM
I'm disagreeing with Eric, Erich, and jake... F*cKIN BAD ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana:

If you part this sucker out you'll make it WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than your $2700 you have invested.. Nice buy man.. kinda ugly plastics. but if you shop around since its built w/ the 250r frame.. There's some SWEEEET options for you man! :batman:
:bash: :slap:
i would agree you could get alot more out of it but just not to appealing
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Segkast on March 29, 2009, 01:59:22 AM
BAD ASS Indeed. Good pickup :cheers:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on March 29, 2009, 02:01:32 AM
yea i know its not the best looking, and I really dont care. set of plastics and some PC can fix that if i want.

I'm happy so far. I'll post more updates when I actually get to ride the damn thing.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Peelz on March 29, 2009, 03:36:46 AM
Quote from: Krandall on March 28, 2009, 10:53:21 PM
I'm disagreeing with Eric, Erich, and jake... F*cKIN BAD ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana:

If you part this sucker out you'll make it WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than your $2700 you have invested.. Nice buy man.. kinda ugly plastics. but if you shop around since its built w/ the 250r frame.. There's some SWEEEET options for you man! :batman:

DUH! It has handguards.   :lol: jus playin'
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on March 29, 2009, 09:45:15 AM
notice from the pics in the driveway, no handguards :lol:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Mad Dog on March 29, 2009, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: dabigbratj on March 28, 2009, 08:12:58 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on March 28, 2009, 03:51:44 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on March 28, 2009, 01:33:50 PM
No offense. I liked the yfz better.

I have to agree.
+1


You guys are funny, I'd take the new quad over a yfz any day of the week.  Any of you ever seen/ridden a Lonestar or Houser framed R?  And the 426 is an excellent powerplant, heck this is the quad I wanted back in 2003 when I got this raptor.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: socalrappy700 on March 29, 2009, 09:55:29 AM
Quote from: Krandall on March 28, 2009, 10:53:21 PM
I'm disagreeing with Eric, Erich, and jake... F*cKIN BAD ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana: :nana:

If you part this sucker out you'll make it WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more than your $2700 you have invested.. Nice buy man.. kinda ugly plastics. but if you shop around since its built w/ the 250r frame.. There's some SWEEEET options for you man! :batman:

This coming from a homo with hand guards.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: socalrappy700 on March 29, 2009, 09:57:29 AM
Quote from: Mad Dog on March 29, 2009, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: dabigbratj on March 28, 2009, 08:12:58 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on March 28, 2009, 03:51:44 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on March 28, 2009, 01:33:50 PM
No offense. I liked the yfz better.

I have to agree.
+1


You guys are funny, I'd take the new quad over a yfz any day of the week.  Any of you ever seen/ridden a Lonestar or Houser framed R?  And the 426 is an excellent powerplant, heck this is the quad I wanted back in 2003 when I got this raptor.

Its just not my style.  And yes, I've seen and ridden a houser framed R. 
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Mad Dog on March 29, 2009, 10:29:26 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on March 29, 2009, 09:57:29 AM
Quote from: Mad Dog on March 29, 2009, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: dabigbratj on March 28, 2009, 08:12:58 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on March 28, 2009, 03:51:44 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on March 28, 2009, 01:33:50 PM
No offense. I liked the yfz better.

I have to agree.
+1


You guys are funny, I'd take the new quad over a yfz any day of the week.  Any of you ever seen/ridden a Lonestar or Houser framed R?  And the 426 is an excellent powerplant, heck this is the quad I wanted back in 2003 when I got this raptor.

Its just not my style.  And yes, I've seen and ridden a houser framed R. 

Ok, both of the quads are four stroke yamaha powered 450cc atvs designed for mx type racing.  Is it more about the styling or the premise of a pre-built atv from a manufacturer vs what is basically a standard variation on a custom 250R?
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: FoundArealQuad on March 29, 2009, 10:38:39 AM
I thinks it's a great buy. When is your first race and when are you going to D town on that thing.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: socalrappy700 on March 29, 2009, 10:50:19 AM
Quote from: Mad Dog on March 29, 2009, 10:29:26 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on March 29, 2009, 09:57:29 AM
Quote from: Mad Dog on March 29, 2009, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: dabigbratj on March 28, 2009, 08:12:58 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on March 28, 2009, 03:51:44 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on March 28, 2009, 01:33:50 PM
No offense. I liked the yfz better.

I have to agree.
+1


You guys are funny, I'd take the new quad over a yfz any day of the week.  Any of you ever seen/ridden a Lonestar or Houser framed R?  And the 426 is an excellent powerplant, heck this is the quad I wanted back in 2003 when I got this raptor.

Its just not my style.  And yes, I've seen and ridden a houser framed R. 

Ok, both of the quads are four stroke yamaha powered 450cc atvs designed for mx type racing.  Is it more about the styling or the premise of a pre-built atv from a manufacturer vs what is basically a standard variation on a custom 250R?

Two things I didn't like about the houser R, one was the ride, it just didn't suit me well.  And the second was the looks, I'm just not a fan of it.  Plus I would never pick up something that was used for racing by someone else, I just don't trust how they took care of it. 
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on March 29, 2009, 12:33:10 PM
MD you seem to know more about these things than I do. Might have to hit ya up if I ever have any questions.

and Socal dont hate :lol: I really dont care about the styling, i wanted a built bike and i got it. and its still a yami motor. :clap:



foundarealquad, I'm not racing it. I'd like to, but Dad wont let me, and im not old enough to race a 450cc machine.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Mad Dog on March 29, 2009, 02:39:33 PM
No it's not technically the "prettiest" setup and doesn't look like a tricked out 700R hill shooter.  I was always partial to the front plastics and headlight setup from the '88 R in red.  But it is a classic look and still a good one to me.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Livingmylife93 on March 29, 2009, 05:45:32 PM
Awesome bike kyle  :nana:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Krandall on March 29, 2009, 08:52:18 PM
They make some SWEET cowl style Carbon Fiber hoods for those! change up the color scheme and you'll have a trick lookin bike!

Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on March 29, 2009, 11:13:10 PM
Quote from: Krandall on March 29, 2009, 08:52:18 PM
They make some SWEET cowl style Carbon Fiber hoods for those! change up the color scheme and you'll have a trick lookin bike!


yea quadtech made em and they were discountinued(i know its not spelled right, and i dont care) a few years back. there goin for $300 :(


and i plan on going thru and painting and plastics etc. next winter
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: who else but rk on March 30, 2009, 12:06:14 AM
very nice pickup. not a fan of 250r swaps at all ( its like a ls1 in an rx7) but there still sweet quads and the yz426 engine is bullet proof. does it have a hot start?
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on March 30, 2009, 02:49:27 PM
Quote from: who else but rk on March 30, 2009, 12:06:14 AM
very nice pickup. not a fan of 250r swaps at all ( its like a ls1 in an rx7) but there still sweet quads and the yz426 engine is bullet proof. does it have a hot start?
no it sure as hell needs one. took my midget ass about 30 kicks in the driveway a minute ago
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Peelz on March 30, 2009, 03:07:11 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on March 30, 2009, 02:49:27 PM
Quote from: who else but rk on March 30, 2009, 12:06:14 AM
very nice pickup. not a fan of 250r swaps at all ( its like a ls1 in an rx7) but there still sweet quads and the yz426 engine is bullet proof. does it have a hot start?
no it sure as hell needs one. took my midget ass about 30 kicks in the driveway a minute ago

no electric start?  f**k that!
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on March 30, 2009, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on March 30, 2009, 03:07:11 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on March 30, 2009, 02:49:27 PM
Quote from: who else but rk on March 30, 2009, 12:06:14 AM
very nice pickup. not a fan of 250r swaps at all ( its like a ls1 in an rx7) but there still sweet quads and the yz426 engine is bullet proof. does it have a hot start?
no it sure as hell needs one. took my midget ass about 30 kicks in the driveway a minute ago

no electric start?  f**k that!
yea no shit!!! just my midget ass sittin in the driveway kickin away gettin it to TDC every kick, fuuuuuuuuck that. im startin to get the rhythm of it though
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Colorado700R on March 30, 2009, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on March 30, 2009, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on March 30, 2009, 03:07:11 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on March 30, 2009, 02:49:27 PM
Quote from: who else but rk on March 30, 2009, 12:06:14 AM
very nice pickup. not a fan of 250r swaps at all ( its like a ls1 in an rx7) but there still sweet quads and the yz426 engine is bullet proof. does it have a hot start?
no it sure as hell needs one. took my midget ass about 30 kicks in the driveway a minute ago

no electric start?  f**k that!
yea no shit!!! just my midget ass sittin in the driveway kickin away gettin it to TDC every kick, fuuuuuuuuck that. im startin to get the rhythm of it though

If only your parents would been better practiced in the rhythm method

:lol:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Peelz on March 30, 2009, 04:03:13 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on March 30, 2009, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on March 30, 2009, 03:38:30 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on March 30, 2009, 03:07:11 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on March 30, 2009, 02:49:27 PM
Quote from: who else but rk on March 30, 2009, 12:06:14 AM
very nice pickup. not a fan of 250r swaps at all ( its like a ls1 in an rx7) but there still sweet quads and the yz426 engine is bullet proof. does it have a hot start?
no it sure as hell needs one. took my midget ass about 30 kicks in the driveway a minute ago

no electric start?  f**k that!
yea no shit!!! just my midget ass sittin in the driveway kickin away gettin it to TDC every kick, fuuuuuuuuck that. im startin to get the rhythm of it though

If only your parents would been better practiced in the rhythm method

:lol:

epic owned right there. :lol: :lol:

Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: FoundArealQuad on March 30, 2009, 08:51:33 PM
Quote from: who else but rk on March 30, 2009, 12:06:14 AM
very nice pickup. not a fan of 250r swaps at all ( its like a ls1 in an rx7) but there still sweet quads and the yz426 engine is bullet proof. does it have a hot start?
Your just pissed that the LS1 in a RX7 would eat that Viper alive :lol:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Peelz on March 30, 2009, 09:38:49 PM
Quote from: FoundArealQuad on March 30, 2009, 08:51:33 PM
Quote from: who else but rk on March 30, 2009, 12:06:14 AM
very nice pickup. not a fan of 250r swaps at all ( its like a ls1 in an rx7) but there still sweet quads and the yz426 engine is bullet proof. does it have a hot start?
Your just pissed that the LS1 in a RX7 would eat that Viper alive :lol:

:owned:

Foundarealquad received some Karma for the RK bashing.  :lol:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: who else but rk on March 31, 2009, 07:19:42 AM
Quote from: FoundArealQuad on March 30, 2009, 08:51:33 PM
Quote from: who else but rk on March 30, 2009, 12:06:14 AM
very nice pickup. not a fan of 250r swaps at all ( its like a ls1 in an rx7) but there still sweet quads and the yz426 engine is bullet proof. does it have a hot start?
Your just pissed that the LS1 in a RX7 would eat that Viper alive :lol:
:lol: i love the rotary engine thats why. i mean yea the ls1 is a solid powerplant. but rotarys sound sooooo good.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Flynbyu on March 31, 2009, 11:35:50 AM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on March 28, 2009, 01:37:59 PM
I like it better. Took a few laps round the yard. I felt very comfortable on it. Just my size.


So it's like a 50cc?

:lol:

~Brian
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Peelz on March 31, 2009, 11:53:29 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on March 31, 2009, 11:35:50 AM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on March 28, 2009, 01:37:59 PM
I like it better. Took a few laps round the yard. I felt very comfortable on it. Just my size.


So it's like a 50cc?

:lol:

~Brian

:lol: that is even pushin it.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on April 01, 2009, 02:10:32 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on March 31, 2009, 11:53:29 AM
Quote from: Flynbyu on March 31, 2009, 11:35:50 AM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on March 28, 2009, 01:37:59 PM
I like it better. Took a few laps round the yard. I felt very comfortable on it. Just my size.


So it's like a 50cc?

:lol:

~Brian

:lol: that is even pushin it.
nah i measured last night its 447cc. needed to replce the base gasket, found the head had some wear since one of the cam tower bolts was broke, and the cam wasnt sitting even. have to get a new race head, and that 447cc might turn into about 480cc
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Flynbyu on April 01, 2009, 02:16:11 PM
Pretty snappy is it?

~Brian
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on April 01, 2009, 03:25:55 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 01, 2009, 02:16:11 PM
Pretty snappy is it?

~Brian
if you mean the cam tower bolts, then yes :mad:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Krandall on April 01, 2009, 03:40:25 PM
 ???

What hapend? 
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on April 01, 2009, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: Krandall on April 01, 2009, 03:40:25 PM
???

What hapend? 
wasnt me. saw the base gasket was leaking and took off the head and thats what I found. Looked at it and Dad said I needed a new head. He said everything else looks good though. cylinder and piston were ok, so i might keep them in. but if he lets me im goin bigger on the bore.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Mad Dog on April 01, 2009, 04:10:09 PM
not worth the 2 hp to go bigger IMO, not unless you need to re-work the cylinder walls.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Peelz on April 01, 2009, 05:02:06 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on April 01, 2009, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: Krandall on April 01, 2009, 03:40:25 PM
???

What hapend? 
wasnt me. saw the base gasket was leaking and took off the head and thats what I found. Looked at it and Dad said I needed a new head. He said everything else looks good though. cylinder and piston were ok, so i might keep them in. but if he lets me im goin bigger on the bore.

reason #1 for not buying previously raced, frankenstein quad.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on April 01, 2009, 05:47:18 PM
for how cheap i bought it for, its worth putting the money into to rebuild it
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Peelz on April 01, 2009, 07:29:47 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on April 01, 2009, 05:47:18 PM
for how cheap i bought it for, its worth putting the money into to rebuild it

OK, good luck.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: socalrappy700 on April 02, 2009, 08:30:44 AM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 01, 2009, 05:02:06 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on April 01, 2009, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: Krandall on April 01, 2009, 03:40:25 PM
???

What hapend? 
wasnt me. saw the base gasket was leaking and took off the head and thats what I found. Looked at it and Dad said I needed a new head. He said everything else looks good though. cylinder and piston were ok, so i might keep them in. but if he lets me im goin bigger on the bore.

reason #1 for not buying previously raced, frankenstein quad.

That was a huge reason I thought it was a bad idea....doesn't matter how cheap you got it.  It may be cheap but you can't ride it right now since it needs to be fixed. 
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Colorado700R on April 02, 2009, 08:57:03 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on April 02, 2009, 08:30:44 AM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 01, 2009, 05:02:06 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on April 01, 2009, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: Krandall on April 01, 2009, 03:40:25 PM
???

What hapend? 
wasnt me. saw the base gasket was leaking and took off the head and thats what I found. Looked at it and Dad said I needed a new head. He said everything else looks good though. cylinder and piston were ok, so i might keep them in. but if he lets me im goin bigger on the bore.

reason #1 for not buying previously raced, frankenstein quad.

That was a huge reason I thought it was a bad idea....doesn't matter how cheap you got it.  It may be cheap but you can't ride it right now since it needs to be fixed. 

If your happy with it Kyle, that's all that matters.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Mad Dog on April 02, 2009, 10:13:24 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on April 02, 2009, 08:30:44 AM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 01, 2009, 05:02:06 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on April 01, 2009, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: Krandall on April 01, 2009, 03:40:25 PM
???

What hapend? 
wasnt me. saw the base gasket was leaking and took off the head and thats what I found. Looked at it and Dad said I needed a new head. He said everything else looks good though. cylinder and piston were ok, so i might keep them in. but if he lets me im goin bigger on the bore.

reason #1 for not buying previously raced, frankenstein quad.

That was a huge reason I thought it was a bad idea....doesn't matter how cheap you got it.  It may be cheap but you can't ride it right now since it needs to be fixed. 

I got mine brand new, and I can't ride it right now because it needs to be fixed...

;)
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: socalrappy700 on April 02, 2009, 10:34:26 AM
Quote from: Mad Dog on April 02, 2009, 10:13:24 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on April 02, 2009, 08:30:44 AM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 01, 2009, 05:02:06 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on April 01, 2009, 04:07:36 PM
Quote from: Krandall on April 01, 2009, 03:40:25 PM
???

What hapend? 
wasnt me. saw the base gasket was leaking and took off the head and thats what I found. Looked at it and Dad said I needed a new head. He said everything else looks good though. cylinder and piston were ok, so i might keep them in. but if he lets me im goin bigger on the bore.

reason #1 for not buying previously raced, frankenstein quad.

That was a huge reason I thought it was a bad idea....doesn't matter how cheap you got it.  It may be cheap but you can't ride it right now since it needs to be fixed. 

I got mine brand new, and I can't ride it right now because it needs to be fixed...

;)

That has a bunch of factors to it...the work you had done, its been raced hard.  Your has had the same life this quad has. 
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Mad Dog on April 02, 2009, 10:43:12 AM
I guess I don't see a difference b/w racing and "racing hard", if you're racing you're trying to win regardless.  The difference is the maintenance you put into it.  I have made efforts to properly maintain the mechanical workings of my atv, proactively replacing some parts and replacing others at the first sign of trouble.  When you're dealing with a performance engine the plain fact is that you're going to have a dramatically shortened lifespan, the difference b/w kyle and I being that his motor was designed for that level of performance directly from a motorcycle intended for mx/xc and mine has been modified from more humble beginnings as a lazy dual sport bike motor which yamaha threw reverse on and tweaked for trail atv duty.

Performance costs reliability and money no matter where it comes from, but the relationship of these is neither linear nor static.  New or used that motor of his was designed with short service intervals in mind.  Valve trains on such machines don't last long and the high rpm isn't exactly a favor to the bottom end either.  Hard to say how long such a motor will run if it's coddled, but IMO most recreational riders do not baby their bikes when they are on them.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: socalrappy700 on April 02, 2009, 10:48:12 AM
Quote from: Mad Dog on April 02, 2009, 10:43:12 AM
I guess I don't see a difference b/w racing and "racing hard", if you're racing you're trying to win regardless.  The difference is the maintenance you put into it.  I have made efforts to properly maintain the mechanical workings of my atv, proactively replacing some parts and replacing others at the first sign of trouble.  When you're dealing with a performance engine the plain fact is that you're going to have a dramatically shortened lifespan, the difference b/w kyle and I being that his motor was designed for that level of performance directly from a motorcycle intended for mx/xc and mine has been modified from more humble beginnings as a lazy dual sport bike motor which yamaha threw reverse on and tweaked for trail atv duty.

Performance costs reliability and money no matter where it comes from, but the relationship of these is neither linear nor static.

There is no difference, racing is racing hard...same meaning, just different wording. 

Yours is a different story, I know you've taken care of it.  I still wonder if it was messed up at barkers.  But I don't know if Kyle's was taken care of so I would be worried to pick something like that up. 
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Peelz on April 02, 2009, 11:24:01 AM
Just thinking this is too much dough for a pieced-together quad that you have to tear apart. Kyle isn't really spending his own money yet, so no biggie for him. I would not buy it. And I would be pissed as F**k if I brought it home and motor was shot. But, as Colorado said "if he is happy, that is all that matters"` :thumbs:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Mad Dog on April 02, 2009, 11:34:09 AM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 02, 2009, 11:24:01 AM
Just thinking this is too much dough for a pieced-together quad that you have to tear apart. Kyle isn't really spending his own money yet, so no biggie for him. I would not buy it. And I would be pissed as F**k if I brought it home and motor was shot. But, as Colorado said "if he is happy, that is all that matters"` :thumbs:

I don't really call it a "pieced together" quad, it's a hybrid and probably the most popular type and one of the most successful race setups of the 90's.  This is exactly what pro riders were running in AMA events.  But I just need to shut up and let it die as well.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Peelz on April 02, 2009, 11:36:30 AM
Quote from: Mad Dog on April 02, 2009, 11:34:09 AM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on April 02, 2009, 11:24:01 AM
Just thinking this is too much dough for a pieced-together quad that you have to tear apart. Kyle isn't really spending his own money yet, so no biggie for him. I would not buy it. And I would be pissed as F**k if I brought it home and motor was shot. But, as Colorado said "if he is happy, that is all that matters"` :thumbs:

I don't really call it a "pieced together" quad, it's a hybrid and probably the most popular type and one of the most successful race setups of the 90's.  But I just need to shut up and let it die as well.

"pieced together" as in home-built. i am not as trusting as some of you. It is cool to have all that stuff though. But, I agree, I will stfu as well.  Let Kyle have his thread back.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on April 02, 2009, 02:03:25 PM
I'm happy with it. so out of my thread :lol:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: socalrappy700 on April 02, 2009, 02:05:57 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on April 02, 2009, 02:03:25 PM
I'm happy with it. so out of my thread :lol:

Who asked you?

:rofl:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Flynbyu on April 02, 2009, 02:13:22 PM
Kyle's thread will be getting moved to VIP. Ante up kyle.

:lol:

~Brian
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: BRAD on April 02, 2009, 02:15:15 PM
Not a bad looking Bike man.  Looks like you ran through some Dog Shit in that first pic though :lol:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on April 02, 2009, 06:47:09 PM
Quote from: BRAD on April 02, 2009, 02:15:15 PM
Not a bad looking Bike man.  Looks like you ran through some Dog Shit in that first pic though :lol:
that wasnt me, those were the pics he sent me :lol:




and brian your an ass :rofl:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Krandall on April 02, 2009, 09:15:40 PM
fyi - love the avitar!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on April 03, 2009, 07:41:02 PM
Quote from: Krandall on April 02, 2009, 09:15:40 PM
fyi - love the avitar!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
???

Cam Journals-the damage

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/DSC03568.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/DSC03575.jpg)

Cams-looks good to me?

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/DSC03576.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/DSC03577.jpg)

Valves-picture makes it look darker than it actually is*

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/DSC03579.jpg)

Cylinder-looks good to me. smudges at the end are from my fingers*

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/DSC03580.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/DSC03582.jpg)
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on April 06, 2009, 07:18:22 PM
head is f*cked  :( :( :'( :'( :'( :( :'( :( :'( :( :'(
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Krandall on April 06, 2009, 10:02:02 PM
bummer :(
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: socalrappy700 on April 07, 2009, 05:35:34 AM
Good thing the quad was a "deal"
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Peelz on April 07, 2009, 06:37:16 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on April 07, 2009, 05:35:34 AM
Good thing the quad was a "deal"

:grin_nod:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Flynbyu on April 07, 2009, 08:54:28 AM
I wouldn't want to "deal" with that.

:lol:

~Brian
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: preddy08 on April 07, 2009, 11:22:29 AM
Why is the head f'ed. You can have it repaired. KILLER BIKE IMHO!

Unless you can find a killer deal on another head, just have that one repaired. Send it off to Bo and be done with it!
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: dabigbratj on April 07, 2009, 01:16:50 PM
Quote from: preddy08 on April 07, 2009, 11:22:29 AM
Why is the head f'ed. You can have it repaired. KILLER BIKE IMHO!

Unless you can find a killer deal on another head, just have that one repaired. Send it off to Bo and be done with it!
+1
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Danny T on April 10, 2009, 12:30:15 PM
what route did you end up going kyle
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Peelz on April 10, 2009, 01:05:48 PM
Quote from: Danny T on April 10, 2009, 12:30:15 PM
what route did you end up going kyle

he decided to come out of the closet, and stop living a lie. I applaud the young man.  :rofl:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on April 10, 2009, 03:43:11 PM
Peels, f*ck you

and im not sure yet, but i know I need a new head. I'm probably going to be buying a stocker and having ported by TTM racing and get some aftermarket cams
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Danny T on April 10, 2009, 04:55:34 PM
did you call anyone like Bo or something to see if they could fix your head? or you just want a new one..?
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on April 10, 2009, 08:20:56 PM
Quote from: Danny T on April 10, 2009, 04:55:34 PM
did you call anyone like Bo or something to see if they could fix your head? or you just want a new one..?
I was told the porting was pretty much a hackjob, and there some other minor issues, so im going new.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Danny T on April 11, 2009, 12:21:20 PM
oh ok, well good luck with it and post pics along the way. i wish i knew how to tare down a motor:(
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on April 11, 2009, 03:38:59 PM
Will do. and im sure everyone on here will help you, or if you call up a sponsor they can walk you through it.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on April 11, 2009, 09:18:22 PM
whoo whoo, scored a stock head with valves and cams for $315 shipped.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Krandall on April 12, 2009, 08:52:52 PM
Nice!!! sending it out for porting? ???
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on April 13, 2009, 07:57:05 PM
Quote from: Krandall on April 12, 2009, 08:52:52 PM
Nice!!! sending it out for porting? ???
Yup sending to TTM racing. Getting porting, full valve job, 98mm CP piston and gasket kit for $525.

Some pics from after I put on the Flexx bars, handguards, and some other stuff I forgot.

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/DSC03561.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/DSC03563.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/DSC03564.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/DSC03562.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/DSC03566.jpg)
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Krandall on April 14, 2009, 10:49:39 AM
nice! still need some new plastics. ;) :thumbs:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: dabigbratj on April 14, 2009, 11:43:32 AM
Quote from: Krandall on April 14, 2009, 10:49:39 AM
nice! still need some new plastics. ;) :thumbs:
+1
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Flynbyu on April 14, 2009, 01:28:58 PM
Handguards?

You better watch your ass Randy.

:lol:

~Brian
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Peelz on April 14, 2009, 01:34:28 PM
Quote from: Flynbyu on April 14, 2009, 01:28:58 PM
Handguards?

You better watch your ass Randy.

:lol:

~Brian

Ohhhh, I bet he will.  :lol:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on April 14, 2009, 02:10:25 PM
Quote from: Krandall on April 14, 2009, 10:49:39 AM
nice! still need some new plastics. ;) :thumbs:
yea yea i know. Put some stickers on it to make me feel better :lol:

needs black plastics,frame and hubs
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on April 20, 2009, 03:46:38 PM
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/DSC03650.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/DSC03656.jpg)


:batman:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: Krandall on April 20, 2009, 04:21:56 PM
what color is everything gonna be?
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on April 20, 2009, 04:47:33 PM
http://www.exriders.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=253252&perpage=13&pagenumber=4

Frame and swinger is gonna be same color as the one all the way at the bottom. fluroscouent (sp I know, and dont care) orange. plastics a-arms hubs nerfs maybe others are gonna be black.

Head is being ported. 98mm CP 12.5:1 piston (480cc)
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: dabigbratj on April 22, 2009, 07:55:51 AM
should look good
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on May 07, 2009, 03:50:28 PM
Got the head and piston in today. Cylinder is going to be bored today or tomorrow. new cam chain and head studs on order thru the dealer.

Head also had brand new valves guides everything  :clap:

Not bad for cell phone pics
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/head.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/head2.jpg)
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on May 20, 2009, 08:37:53 PM
First Night


(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/DSC03849.jpg)(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/DSC03854.jpg)


Yes thats a 14-71 blower in the background haha
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler
Post by: kyledvor61 on May 20, 2009, 08:40:13 PM
second day and current.
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/image0017.jpg)(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/image0018.jpg)



Waiting for hub seals, piston rings, and something else I cant remember from the dealer. Got my shiny new durablue axle in. Hopefully this weekend I can ride.



and I ditched the orange color scheme, went black spray paint. $500 cheaper and 3 weeks less sounded better to me
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: kyledvor61 on May 27, 2009, 03:16:54 PM
First is suspension pulled up. 2nd is shocks pushed down. third is just a wider one
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/a.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/a1.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/a4.jpg)



(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/a2.jpg)(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/a3.jpg)(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/a5.jpg)(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/a6.jpg)(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/a7.jpg)(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/a8.jpg)
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: Krandall on May 27, 2009, 03:19:22 PM
how about a side shot showing the new fancy frame! :thumbs:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: kyledvor61 on May 27, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
so heres what I did

painted...
frame
swingarm
grab bar
nerfs
hubs
plastics
exhaust tip
gas tank

Bought a new head. and it came complete with brand new valves and guides etc.
got the head ported
cut out the airbox so its an open filter as you can see in 6th pic
got a durablue X-33 axle.
put on flexx bars
got silver and chrome handguards but there not on yet



Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: kyledvor61 on May 27, 2009, 03:29:09 PM
and dont be hatin on the blue seat. i never got around to recovering or dying it.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: preddy08 on May 27, 2009, 03:29:58 PM
Can a mini-ho muster up the umph to kick start the bike  ???
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: kyledvor61 on May 27, 2009, 03:34:40 PM
Quote from: preddy08 on May 27, 2009, 03:29:58 PM
Can a mini-ho muster up the umph to kick start the bike  ???
thats the thing, we couldnt get it started yesterday. It has spark (brand new plug) and its getting fuel. It would pop and sometimes run for a half second and die. in the driveway we tried pulling and dumping into gear and that didnt work either. timing is dead on as well.

but before i took it apart, it took me awhile when it was cold. but once it was warmed up i got it first kick
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: Krandall on May 27, 2009, 03:36:08 PM
any thoughts yet as to what it could be?
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: kyledvor61 on May 27, 2009, 03:37:49 PM
nope not a clue. im just guessing it has to be the carb. it was being tossed around for awhile so it must not be working correctly. thats my only guess. timing is perfect, i know its getting fuel, and brand new plug has spark




what do you guys think of it? $30 and a few hours in spray paint later
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: Krandall on May 27, 2009, 03:51:54 PM
Looks a LOT better.

If you spray carb cleaner or starting fluid into the carb, will it run?
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 PAGE 7)
Post by: kyledvor61 on May 27, 2009, 03:59:07 PM
doesnt make a difference with or without the starter fluid, and i tried alot yesterday. with, without, choke on/off etc.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: socalrappy700 on May 27, 2009, 04:10:21 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on May 27, 2009, 03:37:49 PM
nope not a clue. im just guessing it has to be the carb. it was being tossed around for awhile so it must not be working correctly. thats my only guess. timing is perfect, i know its getting fuel, and brand new plug has spark




what do you guys think of it? $30 and a few hours in spray paint later

30 bucks in spray paint but it still isn't running yet.  Should of gone with the YFZ 450R   :rofl:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 PAGE 7)
Post by: Krandall on May 27, 2009, 04:15:05 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on May 27, 2009, 03:59:07 PM
doesnt make a difference with or without the starter fluid, and i tried alot yesterday. with, without, choke on/off etc.
hmmm

the only thing I can think of is... make sure the carb is getting gas to it. Otherwise, if it's not running, only logical thing I can think of is it being timing related.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: Lady4Fiddy on May 27, 2009, 04:15:49 PM
Kyle, have you checked the richness of the fuel? We had the same problem with my YFZ and we had to mess with the fuel mixture for a while until we got it right. It would start, then die. After we got it warm  it would stay started but would pop.

Hope this helps! Good luck!  :thumbs:

Oh and Kyle... get a real quad!   :P  Just kidding buddy!
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: kyledvor61 on May 27, 2009, 04:19:44 PM
mod list that I can think of!

Houser frame
JB +2 a-arms
PEP 18.5" Quad rate remote rezzie ZPS shocks
Axis dual rate remote rezzie rear shock
nissin brakes
braided lines
Burgard +? stem
Fasst flexx bars
oury grips
grip donut things
Pro design kill switch
RTC Clutch lever
grooved radial front tires
ITP Holeshot MXR4 rear tires
Douglas offset beadlocks all around
Denton stabilizier
AC Bumper
AC nerfs
AC grab bar
Laker custom plastics
PWR radiator
YZ426F bottom end
wet sump conversion
Hot Rods crank and rod making 450cc
YZ450F cylinder
YFZ450 head
Kibblewhite valves
Kibblewhite dual spring kit with Titanium retainers
YZ400 Keihin carb
UNI filter
no airbox
Clarke gas tank
Durablue X-33 axle
LSR anti-fade nut
LSR seat latch

thats what I remember as of now. Not sure what kind of swingarm
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: kyledvor61 on May 27, 2009, 04:21:22 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on May 27, 2009, 04:10:21 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on May 27, 2009, 03:37:49 PM
nope not a clue. im just guessing it has to be the carb. it was being tossed around for awhile so it must not be working correctly. thats my only guess. timing is perfect, i know its getting fuel, and brand new plug has spark




what do you guys think of it? $30 and a few hours in spray paint later

30 bucks in spray paint but it still isn't running yet.  Should of gone with the YFZ 450R   :rofl:
sure id take one, but i wouldnt be able to afford it until next year!

and nikki, thanks ill check into that. it has to be carb related it. i didnt check it before i put it on. ill take it off next and go through all of it.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: Hefe on May 28, 2009, 12:11:05 PM
WTF is up with that pipe??

just to satisfy the curiosity, remove the can..
see if it starts

you have a huge motor getting all this air into it (ported head)
and it can't escape (pea shooter exhaust)

let me know if that helps
its a long shot.. I know
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: Colorado700R on May 28, 2009, 01:36:38 PM
1) cover quad in ether

2) add amonium nitrate a desiel fuel to gas tank

3) get looooooooong Jumper cables

4) spark to car battery

5) order YFZ 450R, and enjoy a quad that actually runs

:lol:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: Peelz on May 28, 2009, 01:56:35 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on May 28, 2009, 01:36:38 PM
1) cover quad in ether

2) add amonium nitrate a desiel fuel to gas tank

3) get looooooooong Jumper cables

4) spark to car battery

5) order YFZ 450RRaptor 700r, and enjoy a quad that actually runs

:lol:


Fixed :thumbs:

:lol:

+1 on the ether. I might be able to score some, if necessary.  :lol:

Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: Colorado700R on May 28, 2009, 02:15:10 PM
only real sized people fit on raptors
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: Peelz on May 28, 2009, 02:17:31 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on May 28, 2009, 02:15:10 PM
only real sized people fit on raptors

did I say 700? I meant 90.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: kyledvor61 on May 28, 2009, 02:22:39 PM
Quote from: Hefe on May 28, 2009, 12:11:05 PM
WTF is up with that pipe??

just to satisfy the curiosity, remove the can..
see if it starts

you have a huge motor getting all this air into it (ported head)
and it can't escape (pea shooter exhaust)

let me know if that helps
its a long shot.. I know

its for my neighbors. They called the police when I first brought my YFZ home. it was 100% stock except for S/A pulled and appearently that was too much. also called on my Raptor 350 that had a HMF with quiet core, and my YZ80.

I have this for when I leave the yard which is now a badass flat black :nod: (http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/DSC03540.jpg)
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: kyledvor61 on May 28, 2009, 02:23:48 PM
and come on guys i bet its better than what you had at 14 that you paid for yourself :rolleyes:
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: Peelz on May 28, 2009, 02:30:46 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on May 28, 2009, 02:23:48 PM
and come on guys i bet its better than what you had at 14 that you paid for yourself :rolleyes:

I call BS 100%

You are overpaid no matter what you are doing then.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: Colorado700R on May 28, 2009, 02:45:49 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on May 28, 2009, 02:23:48 PM
and come on guys i bet its better than what you had at 14 that you paid for yourself :rolleyes:

I had you mom
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: Peelz on May 28, 2009, 02:51:40 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on May 28, 2009, 02:45:49 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on May 28, 2009, 02:23:48 PM
and come on guys i bet its better than what you had at 14 that you paid for yourself :rolleyes:

I had your mom

For free even. Hell, she paid me.
Title: Re: New Fourwheeler (PICS 5/27 LAST PAGE)
Post by: Livingmylife93 on May 28, 2009, 03:05:22 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on May 28, 2009, 02:23:48 PM
and come on guys i bet its better than what you had at 14 that you paid for yourself :rolleyes:

Its a nice bike kyle. I know the feeling of getting what you can get with your own money at our age. Granted I'm 16, and got a deal on a 700 that worked out, i know what you mean. My first fourwheeler when i was 13 was a 1987 suzuki quadrunner that need more work than it was worth.
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Post by: Hefe on May 28, 2009, 03:18:37 PM
yes Kyle..
it is much nicer than ANYTHING I had at 14
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Post by: kyledvor61 on May 28, 2009, 03:23:36 PM
Quote from: Hefe on May 28, 2009, 03:18:37 PM
yes Kyle..
it is much nicer than ANYTHING I had at 14
ill try what you said with the exhaust. Its a long shot but worth a try.

and i knew all you guys were haters :lol:



ok i guess it sounded cocky but I worked hard for the things I have


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Post by: Peelz on May 28, 2009, 03:26:58 PM
It's what we do Kylie!

I had a moped when I turned 11. That is all I ever got too. :lol:


:bird:
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Post by: socalrappy700 on May 28, 2009, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on May 28, 2009, 03:23:36 PM
Quote from: Hefe on May 28, 2009, 03:18:37 PM
yes Kyle..
it is much nicer than ANYTHING I had at 14
ill try what you said with the exhaust. Its a long shot but worth a try.

and i knew all you guys were haters :lol:



ok i guess it sounded cocky but I worked hard for the things I have




*cough* BULL SHIT *cough*

:lol:
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Post by: kyledvor61 on May 28, 2009, 03:33:36 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on May 28, 2009, 03:26:58 PM
It's what we do Kylie!

I had a moped when I turned 11. That is all I ever got too. :lol:


:bird:
yup typical raptor rider :rofl:

and socal think whatever you wanna think im not going to argue about this with any of you
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Post by: Peelz on May 28, 2009, 03:56:26 PM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on May 28, 2009, 03:30:05 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on May 28, 2009, 03:23:36 PM
Quote from: Hefe on May 28, 2009, 03:18:37 PM
yes Kyle..
it is much nicer than ANYTHING I had at 14
ill try what you said with the exhaust. Its a long shot but worth a try.

and i knew all you guys were haters :lol:



ok i guess it sounded cocky but I worked hard for the things I have




*cough* BULL SHIT *cough*

:lol:

It's OK, you can say it with out the cough to conceal the sarcasm.  :lol:
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Post by: kyledvor61 on May 29, 2009, 10:03:20 AM
you guys are gay :(
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Post by: Krandall on May 29, 2009, 10:18:49 AM
Keep the thread on topic. quit being bastards.
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Post by: Colorado700R on May 29, 2009, 12:14:08 PM
Atleast it doesn't have handguards :thumbs:



Hope it runs good for you kyle, that's all that counts
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Post by: kyledvor61 on May 29, 2009, 10:24:29 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on May 29, 2009, 12:14:08 PM
Atleast it doesn't have handguards :thumbs:



Hope it runs good for you kyle, that's all that counts
I guess I shouldnt tell you I havent put em on yet :rofl:
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Post by: kyledvor61 on June 01, 2009, 09:37:45 AM
it runs :clap:
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Post by: Peelz on June 01, 2009, 09:42:36 AM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on June 01, 2009, 09:37:45 AM
it runs :clap:

not bad...and, only a solid 2 months after you bought it? Great deal. :lol:

JK (kinda) Glad to hear it.
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Post by: Krandall on June 01, 2009, 09:45:09 AM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on June 01, 2009, 09:37:45 AM
it runs :clap:

what did it end up being?
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Post by: Hefe on June 01, 2009, 09:59:07 AM
yea.. spill it... how did you get it running?
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Post by: kyledvor61 on June 01, 2009, 08:36:49 PM
the timing was off. I dont know how it happened. We checked it 5 times at least, and it was perfect each time. We changed plugs, and got it to pop and backfire and run like shit while being pulled. from that we figured it was timing. Checked again and the intake cam was a few teeth off. :wtf: We checked it several times it was dead on. Put the cam back how its supposed to be. I started it up in 3 kicks. Loud ticking coming from engine. Tore back down and used feeler gauges to check valves. Intake tolerance is .004-.006 (I think, its somewhere around there). The valves were at .004, .009, and .014 :jaw: This was my dads error when putting back together. The exhaust tolerance is .008-.010 and they were .015 and .013. I then went to my dads shop and made my own shims on a lathe. Went back home put it back together and bam 3 kicks it fired right up.

Funny thing. it was running in the driveway and my dad says to rev it. He was standing opposite the exhaust side. Appearently I didnt tighten down the radiator line going to the motor, and poof the line popped off and like a huge squirt gun it covered him with radiator fluid. Emptied the system in a few seconds. funniest thing ive ever seen. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Got that tightened up and took it for a spin. all I can say is WOW. I truly dont know how it moves so fast. same motor as the yfz except for open intake and porting. Bitch scoots :clap: throttle response and bottom end power is very nice :nod:

This motor has an oil conversion kit, so it doesnt have the oil tank. On top of the tank is supposed to be a return line that comes from the head. my other head had that port blocked off so it wouldnt flow. New head had that hole open, which I forgot about. :lol: So as soon as I get a plug for that, and my yard dries ill have some videos :clap: :clap: :clap:





and i put on all the fast stickers so now maybe ill have good luck :lol:
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Post by: Peelz on June 01, 2009, 09:42:11 PM
A: Good news
B: LMAO at "radiator fluid"
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Post by: kyledvor61 on June 01, 2009, 10:05:06 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on June 01, 2009, 09:42:11 PM
A: Good news
B: LMAO at "radiator fluid"
man it was so freakin funny. it just shot out, I really couldnt believe it flowed that fast.


on another note im guessing its running lean. I know the header gets red but this mofo was cheeto orange after idling for a few minutes. and the antifreeze was bubbling out the overflow as I shut it off. not cool. Not sure whats goin on there.
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Post by: Krandall on June 02, 2009, 08:45:36 AM
bummer about the bubbling, that sounds like head gasket :(
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Post by: Peelz on June 02, 2009, 08:50:27 AM
did I say "should've kept the YFZ yet"?  Just checking.   :lol:
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Post by: kyledvor61 on June 02, 2009, 09:32:18 AM
Quote from: Krandall on June 02, 2009, 08:45:36 AM
bummer about the bubbling, that sounds like head gasket :(
how does that indicate a head gasket? Just wondering
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Post by: Krandall on June 02, 2009, 09:34:32 AM
Bubbles..

What happens when the head gasket leaks is, on its compression stroke, the gasket cant hold it, finds the weakest point and pushes air that's compressed through the gasket into the water jackets.
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Post by: kyledvor61 on June 02, 2009, 11:03:18 PM
Quote from: Krandall on June 02, 2009, 09:34:32 AM
Bubbles..

What happens when the head gasket leaks is, on its compression stroke, the gasket cant hold it, finds the weakest point and pushes air that's compressed through the gasket into the water jackets.
shit.

well i guess ill have to replace the gasket once I get my 98mm cylinder in
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Post by: Lady4Fiddy on June 03, 2009, 11:23:24 AM
Peels dog needs to go visit Kyle for clean up of coolant!   :confused:
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Post by: Peelz on June 03, 2009, 11:54:58 AM
Quote from: Lady4Fiddy on June 03, 2009, 11:23:24 AM
Peels dog needs to go visit Kyle for clean up of coolant!   :confused:

LMAO!  well said 4fizzle
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Post by: kyledvor61 on June 03, 2009, 11:02:01 PM
4fizzle mynizzle?


rode for a few laps this morning. I like the bottom end torque, but I cant get it to hook up :lol:


need to tune the suspension and a-arms
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Post by: Krandall on June 04, 2009, 06:09:26 AM
where be the vids!?  :mad:

:D
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Post by: Colorado700R on June 04, 2009, 03:01:30 PM
He doesn't want to reveal evidence that he's slower than Lady4fiddy :batman:
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Post by: Peelz on June 04, 2009, 03:02:40 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on June 04, 2009, 03:01:30 PM
He doesn't want to reveal evidence that he's slower than Lady4fiddy :batman:

this is assumed, regardless of vids.  :lol:
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Post by: kyledvor61 on June 04, 2009, 06:04:23 PM
Quote from: Krandall on June 04, 2009, 06:09:26 AM
where be the vids!?  :mad:

:D
hold on damnit im waiting for my dad to get home so I can kick his cocky ds650 ass





and so i can fix the radiator line my pipe burnt through :rofl:
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Post by: Lady4Fiddy on June 04, 2009, 07:54:21 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on June 04, 2009, 03:02:40 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on June 04, 2009, 03:01:30 PM
He doesn't want to reveal evidence that he's slower than Lady4fiddy :batman:

this is assumed, regardless of vids.  :lol:

:clap:  HA! Someone thinks I am faster than someone else! I friggin' ROCK!     :wootwoot:
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Post by: kyledvor61 on June 04, 2009, 11:16:49 PM
Quote from: Lady4Fiddy on June 04, 2009, 07:54:21 PM
Quote from: PeelsSE2 on June 04, 2009, 03:02:40 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on June 04, 2009, 03:01:30 PM
He doesn't want to reveal evidence that he's slower than Lady4fiddy :batman:

this is assumed, regardless of vids.  :lol:

:clap:  HA! Someone thinks I am faster than someone else! I friggin' ROCK!     :wootwoot:
dont get so full of yourself :rolleyes:




cleaned it
put in more oil
changed radiator fluid
changed bottom radiator line
used 3 zip ties to get it off the header :lol:

ready to ride tommorrow morning
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Post by: Krandall on June 05, 2009, 08:27:35 AM
Still Waiting.... *foot tapping*
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Post by: kyledvor61 on June 05, 2009, 11:11:15 PM
Quote from: Krandall on June 05, 2009, 08:27:35 AM
Still Waiting.... *foot tapping*
no camera man. but i beat him :lol:
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Post by: kyledvor61 on July 03, 2009, 09:58:56 AM
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/1.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/2.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/3.jpg)



and the last two are lol's



(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/6.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn244/kyledvor61/fourwheeler/untitled23.jpg)



2 450 heads
2 sets of 450 cams
1 yfz cylinder
1 YZ426 cylinder
1 Cylinder works 98mm cylinder
1 valve cover and gasket
1 chain tensioner
2 sets of gaskets
1 98mm CP piston
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Post by: Hefe on July 03, 2009, 10:32:23 AM
I may NEVER understand why you bought that..
:shakes head:
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Post by: socalrappy700 on July 03, 2009, 10:53:40 AM
Quote from: Hefe on July 03, 2009, 10:32:23 AM
I may NEVER understand why you bought that..
:shakes head:

+1
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Post by: Hefe on July 03, 2009, 11:07:53 AM
let me clarify..
I am not trying to be a prick, I know a ton of people have given you a ton of shit over this.
I don't wanna be sounding like a prick..
I just don't see the advantage of owning such a "Frankenstein" machine

didn't you have a YFZ before?
the YFZ is arguably the best MX quad ever made
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Post by: Mad Dog on July 03, 2009, 06:12:11 PM
Quote from: Hefe on July 03, 2009, 11:07:53 AM
let me clarify..
I am not trying to be a prick, I know a ton of people have given you a ton of shit over this.
I don't wanna be sounding like a prick..
I just don't see the advantage of owning such a "Frankenstein" machine

didn't you have a YFZ before?
the YFZ is arguably the best MX quad ever made

Let me preface this by saying I have the utmost respect for you and your opinions.  And then let me say that I would take his Frankenstein monster over the old yfz in a heart beat.  Better chassis and frankly I like the 426 better than the old 450 too.  The yfz chassis is great, but it's not as good as this.  Maybe it's nostalgia, or maybe it's that the only thing that can beat the built 450's, zillas and banshees (and my raptor) on the ice are quads like this.  I've ridden them and there's nothing you can say that will convince me that the old yfz is a worthy replacement.  Now I just have to ride yours to see how the new R holds up ;)
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Post by: Livingmylife93 on July 03, 2009, 08:08:30 PM
Once you throw a tad bit more bling of some sort into that thing its gonna look awesome  :thumbs:
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Post by: socalrappy700 on July 03, 2009, 09:01:11 PM
Quote from: Mad Dog on July 03, 2009, 06:12:11 PM
Quote from: Hefe on July 03, 2009, 11:07:53 AM
let me clarify..
I am not trying to be a prick, I know a ton of people have given you a ton of shit over this.
I don't wanna be sounding like a prick..
I just don't see the advantage of owning such a "Frankenstein" machine

didn't you have a YFZ before?
the YFZ is arguably the best MX quad ever made

Let me preface this by saying I have the utmost respect for you and your opinions.  And then let me say that I would take his Frankenstein monster over the old yfz in a heart beat.  Better chassis and frankly I like the 426 better than the old 450 too.  The yfz chassis is great, but it's not as good as this.  Maybe it's nostalgia, or maybe it's that the only thing that can beat the built 450's, zillas and banshees (and my raptor) on the ice are quads like this.  I've ridden them and there's nothing you can say that will convince me that the old yfz is a worthy replacement.  Now I just have to ride yours to see how the new R holds up ;)


Let me cut through all that BS for everyone.  You're just happy to have someone else around that can't keep their quad running.

JK

:rofl: :rofl:
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Post by: kyledvor61 on July 04, 2009, 06:32:59 PM
Quote from: Hefe on July 03, 2009, 11:07:53 AM
let me clarify..
I am not trying to be a prick, I know a ton of people have given you a ton of shit over this.
I don't wanna be sounding like a prick..
I just don't see the advantage of owning such a "Frankenstein" machine

didn't you have a YFZ before?
the YFZ is arguably the best MX quad ever made
yes i did own a bone stock yfz. for how much it would cost me to build it up, it wouldnt be worth it. I paid $2200 for it, put $3200 total into it, and have made more than my money back on the partout, with parts still left. I picked this up for $2700 and have a little over $3000 into it, for a full built MX setup.



I'm happy, and thats all that matters.
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Post by: Hefe on July 07, 2009, 09:34:57 AM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on July 04, 2009, 06:32:59 PM
I'm happy, and thats all that matters.

That about sum's it up!
I would ride with ya any day kid!