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Title: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Kamakazi on May 19, 2008, 09:00:09 AM
can anyone tell me why i got beat by a stock 50th edition rappy?  i have a 15t and a dynojet, and i get him out of the hole but he catches up and passes me in 5th.  can anyone explain this?  both of our speed sensors are still plugged in ???  this is seriously bothering me and may cut my paycheck in half to beat him :'(  oh ya both 20" tires.
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Colorado700R on May 19, 2008, 09:03:21 AM
All your mods are equal  ???


There are "freaks" in all sport machines that output more power stock than others. Also is there a weight diffrence between you and the other guy?

Aaron
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Krandall on May 19, 2008, 09:06:05 AM
there could be lots of factors..

Weight..

Are you running the same gearing?

Tires, same tires/wear? (could someone be hooking up better)?
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Jade67 on May 19, 2008, 09:09:13 AM
If you are both stock minus the fact that you have a 15t then you could be trying to spin a little too much gearing. Sure it makes big 3 bikes faster but it could actually be making a stock bike work harder and that could be why he beat you.

There is still a lot of variables that could be the reason why you got beaten but that is just another thing that could be part of the picture.
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Kamakazi on May 19, 2008, 10:14:11 AM
thanks.  i would have thought that my pc3 would have gained me a weeee bit of power on the stock bike, but i guess not.  other than that weight is the same, and i would have to then point a finger at traction, i was runnin dunlop, and he had some worn out razer's.  also we both are the same height and same weight +/- 5lbs.
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Krandall on May 19, 2008, 10:17:20 AM
If you're both running stock pipes. I don't think with the PCIII you'd gain much more out of it. (if that is indeed the case)
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Colorado700R on May 19, 2008, 10:17:46 AM
Quote from: kamakazi on May 19, 2008, 10:14:11 AM
thanks.  i would have thought that my pc3 would have gained me a weeee bit of power on the stock bike, but i guess not.  other than that weight is the same, and i would have to then point a finger at traction, i was runnin dunlop, and he had some worn out razer's.  also we both are the same height and same weight +/- 5lbs.

Experience is key to racing as well.  

Are you short shifting?  Makes a huge diffrence even the last shift from 4th to 5th.

Aaron
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Flynbyu on May 19, 2008, 11:06:56 AM
If he's catching you from behind, something's not right. It makes sense you're beating him out of the hole. Your mods get you to speed quicker, but your power curve is falling flat towards top end.

~Brian
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Kamakazi on May 19, 2008, 11:40:05 AM
this was an all out top speed, we probably went for a mile or so.  honestly in 5th gear he would slowly pull away from me.  and yes both stock pipes.  guess im throwin on a set of pipes :( sooner than i wanted.  i dont think i shifted too short from 4->5
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Jade67 on May 19, 2008, 12:12:39 PM
In theory the 15t gear would make your bike faster but if you dont have the power to turn the 15t tooth then it makes sense that the other stock bike with the 14t could be pulling ahead because it is able to wind a little higher because it has the power to use "ALL" of his gearing where the 15t could be holding you back a little.
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Kamakazi on May 19, 2008, 12:43:44 PM
gottcha, so the only logical thing to do is make more power :grin_nod:
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Jade67 on May 19, 2008, 02:44:39 PM
Quote from: kamakazi on May 19, 2008, 12:43:44 PM
gottcha, so the only logical thing to do is make more power :grin_nod:

That is what I did and spinning a 15t is like a walk in the part now :clap:
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Krandall on May 19, 2008, 02:46:34 PM
Quote from: Jade67 on May 19, 2008, 02:44:39 PM
Quote from: kamakazi on May 19, 2008, 12:43:44 PM
gottcha, so the only logical thing to do is make more power :grin_nod:

That is what I did and spinning a 15t is like a walk in the part now :clap:


:lol:

bastard....  :lol: :P
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Havn2muchfun on May 19, 2008, 04:03:57 PM
No, it's because the yellow one's are the fastest, everybody know's that. :poke: :lol:
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Kamakazi on May 19, 2008, 04:19:45 PM
Quote from: Havn2muchfun on May 19, 2008, 04:03:57 PM
No, it's because the yellow one's are the fastest, everybody know's that. :poke: :lol:

not when im done it wont be :nun:
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: kyledvor61 on May 19, 2008, 04:32:21 PM
Trade bikes for the race and see what happens
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Kamakazi on May 19, 2008, 04:38:21 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on May 19, 2008, 04:32:21 PM
Trade bikes for the race and see what happens

interesting but i dont know how my grey/red rappy will react with fairy yellow cooties ???   :fruity:
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Jade67 on May 19, 2008, 04:44:08 PM
Quote from: kamakazi on May 19, 2008, 04:19:45 PM
Quote from: Havn2muchfun on May 19, 2008, 04:03:57 PM
No, it's because the yellow one's are the fastest, everybody know's that. :poke: :lol:

not when im done it wont be :nun:

Yes it will...haha :clap:
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Kamakazi on May 19, 2008, 04:51:21 PM
must be the pixie dust that makes them fly like that :lol:
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Jade67 on May 19, 2008, 05:01:16 PM
Quote from: kamakazi on May 19, 2008, 04:51:21 PM
must be the pixie dust that makes them fly like that :lol:

Nah, its like that strong desire to pound the gas when you see the "yellow" light so that you dont have to sit at the intersection. They had that little bit of "extra speed" in mind when they build the YELLOW SE...  :lol: :batman:
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Kamakazi on May 20, 2008, 10:13:12 AM
lol, good show :D
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: Bert on May 20, 2008, 12:03:18 PM
You could try 14/37 gearing vs 15/38, a smaller gain in top speed.  As stated you are running out of HP to pull your gearing.  Pull your exhaust baffle & remap PCIII, similiar to a slip on pipe until you upgrade
Title: Re: 50th edition rappy
Post by: ThisGuyAlex on May 29, 2008, 10:24:22 AM
you should take a run at socal's bike.....it's no dog....