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Title: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: Krandall on September 15, 2008, 07:38:41 PM
So... Took the rappy to Silver Lake this weekend. Was out all day friday, tearin up the dunes, was flyin high, we decided to go for one last ride... Heard my chain dragging.. Here's the outcome... You think Tony will be warrentying this?


(http://bob2bob.com/images/silverlake/SANY2600.JPG)

(http://bob2bob.com/images/silverlake/SANY2601.JPG)

(http://bob2bob.com/images/silverlake/SANY2602.JPG)
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: 1FST690 on September 15, 2008, 07:40:56 PM
What is the thickness of the tubes? I am curious as I am doing a 7/8" .062 swinger. It is drag only as the struts dont absorb jumps very well. Just curious?
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: exentix on September 15, 2008, 07:42:58 PM
wow that blows  :( isnt the t bud ones people have been breaking? didnt preddy break 2 of em?  ???
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: socalrappy700 on September 15, 2008, 07:48:21 PM
 :( :(  Don't know what else to say.
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: Krandall on September 15, 2008, 07:51:34 PM
Quote from: exentix on September 15, 2008, 07:42:58 PM
wow that blows  :( isnt the t bud ones people have been breaking? didnt preddy break 2 of em?  ???

Yeah, only one I saw broken was preddy's I was just ignorant.

Not sure the thickness 1fst690. I'll guage it this coming weekend.
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: socalrappy700 on September 15, 2008, 07:55:35 PM
any idea on if you'll go with a new one, and which brand?
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: BRAD on September 15, 2008, 07:59:55 PM
dang dude that sucks. sorry to hear bro. atleast it broke at the end of the weekend
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: Krandall on September 15, 2008, 08:06:52 PM
Beans is gonna test his luck @ repairing it. But, I'm looking currently @ lone star.
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: socalrappy700 on September 15, 2008, 08:08:16 PM
what size?  and look at eyeball or metaltech.
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: preddy08 on September 15, 2008, 08:15:39 PM
eyeball makes some nice, tough stuff, but they are proud of there stuff!
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: socalrappy700 on September 15, 2008, 08:33:46 PM
Quote from: preddy08 on September 15, 2008, 08:15:39 PM
eyeball makes some nice, tough stuff, but they are proud of there stuff!

I would be.

I really liked metaltech.  I got to go to their shop once.
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: wobble on September 15, 2008, 08:41:13 PM
Quote from: Krandall on September 15, 2008, 07:38:41 PM
You think Tony will be warrentying this?

I'm sure he will. Give him a call.  :rofl:

That blows. Hey Preddy, did yours break in the same place?
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: Bert on September 15, 2008, 08:50:13 PM
Krandall - How much was the swinger?  How long did it last?

What is the swing arm made of ? DOM tubing or .... Moly




Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: powder coater on September 15, 2008, 09:24:56 PM
I heard a rumer that Tony could be at my shop this week. If and when I see him I will mention your swinger and see if we can get another one. SLC makes a strong ladder bar swing arm you should be able to beat on pretty good. That is the style is going to build for myself in a +10.



Frank  that's .120 wall tube.  I bent my 1.25 od .120 wall swinger just behind the shock mount this weekend pounding the whoops. I would think a 7/8 .065 would be ok if you keep it short and on the track only. Its going to want to twist right to left. a larger OD with the same wall thickness will give you more rigidity with out a lot more weight. If you want to know exactly how much give me a call and I could figure it out for you.
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: Peelz on September 15, 2008, 10:02:51 PM
i haven't read a good review of these swingarms yet...too bad Krandall, terrible luck. :(
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: Krandall on September 16, 2008, 07:30:34 AM
Quote from: powder coater on September 15, 2008, 09:24:56 PM
I heard a rumer that Tony could be at my shop this week. If and when I see him I will mention your swinger and see if we can get another one. SLC makes a strong ladder bar swing arm you should be able to beat on pretty good. That is the style is going to build for myself in a +10.



Frank  that's .120 wall tube.  I bent my 1.25 od .120 wall swinger just behind the shock mount this weekend pounding the whoops. I would think a 7/8 .065 would be ok if you keep it short and on the track only. Its going to want to twist right to left. a larger OD with the same wall thickness will give you more rigidity with out a lot more weight. If you want to know exactly how much give me a call and I could figure it out for you.

That would be greatly appreciated Paul! Keep me in the loop w/ what happens :thumbs:
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: preddy08 on September 16, 2008, 07:49:25 AM
Any chance of you mentioning mine too? The very same thing happened to me, but I have been trying to get ahold of him for MONTHS!!
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: socalrappy700 on September 16, 2008, 07:55:46 AM
Nobody call him.  Lets get him in Pauls shop first and then let Paul take care of it.  We don't want to scare him off.
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: preddy08 on September 16, 2008, 08:31:19 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on September 16, 2008, 07:55:46 AM
Nobody call him.  Lets get him in Pauls shop first and then let Paul take care of it.  We don't want to scare him off.


He would have to answer the phone first in order to get scared :mad: :mad:
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: socalrappy700 on September 16, 2008, 08:37:52 AM
Ok, no voicemails then.
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: preddy08 on September 16, 2008, 09:02:24 AM
Quote from: Socalrappy700 on September 16, 2008, 08:37:52 AM
Ok, no voicemails then.

I do have his house number :clap: :rofl:
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: socalrappy700 on September 16, 2008, 09:05:25 AM
I have his house, cell, and shop (shut down) but I'll hold off from calling.
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: Flynbyu on September 16, 2008, 11:33:42 AM
Broke at the welds.

Crazy.

Sorry to hear that. Especially since it took forever for it to come in!

~Brian
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: dgreenbluet on September 16, 2008, 11:46:10 AM
thats definitly product deficience, it broke right on the welds...you "should" be able to get a new one
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: wobble on September 16, 2008, 11:48:48 AM
"should"......if he was still in business.
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: 1FST690 on September 16, 2008, 08:01:33 PM
Quote from: powder coater on September 15, 2008, 09:24:56 PM
I heard a rumer that Tony could be at my shop this week. If and when I see him I will mention your swinger and see if we can get another one. SLC makes a strong ladder bar swing arm you should be able to beat on pretty good. That is the style is going to build for myself in a +10.



Frank  that's .120 wall tube.  I bent my 1.25 od .120 wall swinger just behind the shock mount this weekend pounding the whoops. I would think a 7/8 .065 would be ok if you keep it short and on the track only. Its going to want to twist right to left. a larger OD with the same wall thickness will give you more rigidity with out a lot more weight. If you want to know exactly how much give me a call and I could figure it out for you.

Thank Paul. Tim is doing a +10 and has the +12 done. They are for the dragbike, which as you know will never see the whoops. I think she is officially reserved for the track :rofl: Are you going on the 28th?
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: powder coater on September 16, 2008, 08:39:53 PM
yes and we have a test and tune going the friday before if your interested. Matt at DTR is renting the track.

I will do what I can for all you guys as far as T Dub goes but to be honest I don't know anyone that has ever had any influence on him repetadly. I would keep calling. The squeaky wheel gets the greeks. I have a number of contractors that owe me money and that's what eventually gets me paid. It pisses me off every time.
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: 1FST690 on September 16, 2008, 08:47:54 PM
I cant make it on friday. I think I will bring the ol reliable 690 if I cant find anything faster to Jockey :rofl:


I hope you fellers with the T-Dubs get them fixed but looking at the track record I think it may be less of a hassle just to buy another one :(
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: Flynbyu on September 17, 2008, 08:06:59 AM
Hopefully you still have your old swinger to fill in as a replacement until you find a new one.

~Brian
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: Danny T on September 17, 2008, 09:04:33 AM
Thats sucks, hopefully both of you get replacements.

Good luck!
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: Onelunglow on September 30, 2008, 04:30:22 PM
Did T-Dubs get busted yet? ???
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: Krandall on October 16, 2008, 05:55:06 PM
Well, I finally got these pics up, this past weekend I pulled the tdub off and put the stocker one back on while I wait for my new SLC.


First Pic: This is the front part of the swinger where it mounts to the frame., the entire middle bracing snapped out of place.
(http://bob2bob.com/images/projectX/tdub1.jpg)


These next 2 are.... news to me. Cleaned the swinger up. Freaking welds around the right side brace of the shock mount..... Welds all busted.. Entirely aruond the freakin thing.  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
(http://bob2bob.com/images/projectX/tdub2.jpg)

(http://bob2bob.com/images/projectX/tdub3.jpg)
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: BRAD on October 16, 2008, 06:07:05 PM
dude that sucks. again sorry to hear it man
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: Colorado700R on October 16, 2008, 06:17:33 PM
I think I remember you and Socal bragging about the pretty welds on those swingers.  Just goes to show that "pretty" don't mean shit.

Glad you got a quality swinger in the works randy  :thumbs:
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: Peelz on October 16, 2008, 06:23:08 PM
holy crap, that is horrible. Should not break that way!
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: Temptation on October 16, 2008, 07:02:58 PM
Man just glad it broke when it did before the rest came apart.... :thumbs:
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: RaptorRandy on October 16, 2008, 08:22:09 PM
Looks like a combination of shit off shore Chrome moly and lack of penatration to me.

My +4'' was all cracked/broke around the welds on the carrier housing like yours is around the shock mount.

Looks like we all took it in the ass on these   :mad: Ol T-Flub better hope he's never at the dunes when I am, the rat bastard  :mad:
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: maxx on October 17, 2008, 12:17:27 AM
Randy is right about the welds, the other is metal fatigue for what ever reason, adds up to crap.
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: sweet on October 17, 2008, 07:15:49 PM
my +6 tdub is starting to look just like the 2nd and 3rd picture. I sure hope it doesnt break.
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: powder coater on October 17, 2008, 07:21:34 PM
I hate to say it but if it looks lo\ike that its already broken. It just hasnt broken apart yet. You might be able to have a weld shop " wet it in " with a tig welder but it will very likely break any way.
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: RaptorRandy on October 17, 2008, 08:20:34 PM
Quote from: powder coater on October 17, 2008, 07:21:34 PM
I hate to say it but if it looks lo\ike that its already broken. It just hasnt broken apart yet. You might be able to have a weld shop " wet it in " with a tig welder but it will very likely break any way.




Agreed.......I'd be lookin to find a high quality replacment if it were me.
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: maxx on October 17, 2008, 09:47:05 PM
If it came from overseas, the metal, then I guess it would have metal fartigue.
???
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: Bert on October 18, 2008, 06:07:01 AM
Quote from: sweet on October 17, 2008, 07:15:49 PM
my +6 tdub is starting to look just like the 2nd and 3rd picture. I sure hope it doesnt break.
Did you see this thread?
http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?topic=2040.0
Title: Re: T-Dub Swinger.... Busted
Post by: SANDMAN on October 28, 2008, 10:06:10 PM
I bought a arm from Ace Fab awhile back. No problems yet.

Sorry about the T-tub