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Title: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: KBR on August 13, 2008, 03:19:31 PM
I just got done with a dyno test of the 700R DMC dual pipe system (comp).
While I am a Barker Dealer and love Tims pipes, the guys at DMC asked me to try a set of these, so I obliged.
I will be doing a test on a machine we just turned into a 771, where I will test them against the Barkers back to back. (old Barkers).
They work pretty damn good.
Best hp numbers I have seen from a bolt on, Super Six mod machine.
It had:
Dynatek Ignition (curve 2)
Dynatek Programmer
Mod Quad Intake (some power to be had there with new stuff we are working on)
KDS bored TB +2mm
Hot Cam Stage 3
Ron Wood Pipe (and the DMC and Packard Design Lab Single).
The Packard Pipe makes the best torque, the DMC makes the best HP, the Wood is there in the middle.
The Packard and the Woods are louder than the DMC. The DMC has a sweet sound to it, I like it.
The DMC also has the best fit and finish as well as the best and easiest installation of any 700R pipe I have seen. Its top notch.
They did a good job on it. I was skeptical since the original DMC is a huge turd, but this one is not. Its a good pipe!
I will be selling this test pipe for $650 in a week if anyone is interested.
Pictures and graps to follow this evening.
DMC = 60 and 46
Packard = 57 and 48
Ron Wood = 58 and 45
In my previous testing, the Barkers make 2 hp on the Woods, but usually not much more if any more torque, so these might make more bottom end, but thats purely speculation at this point.
I will test it later this week as we work on our intake systems.

Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: Colorado700R on August 13, 2008, 03:29:36 PM
nice work guys  :grin_nod:

Good to see another option for Duals on the market  :thumbs:
Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: Krandall on August 13, 2008, 03:30:41 PM
I'm no genius or major motor guy by ANY means, but how come it'd make more HP but less TQ? Don't those usually go hand in hand? ???
Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: NaturalRaptor on August 13, 2008, 03:34:05 PM
Nice setup and thanks for the info!  :thumbs:
Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: KBR on August 13, 2008, 03:38:04 PM
I hate peak numbers for this reason.
I will post the graphs and it will make sense.
Basically the Packard pipe makes the most power down low.
Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: SUB454 on August 13, 2008, 03:54:09 PM
Thanks for the test info Kam...great stuff as usual :thumbs:
Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: russ-russ on August 13, 2008, 07:20:39 PM
Thanks for the info Kam.  Lots of cool stuff for these 700's is hitting the market right now.
Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: Bert on August 14, 2008, 06:24:53 AM
Thanks Kam  ;)

Can't wait for the graphs

Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: digitalhearing on August 17, 2008, 09:12:39 AM
I am holding back on ordering a set of duals to see how it shakes down.

Grant
Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: maxx on August 17, 2008, 02:35:21 PM
Grant, I shouldn't quote someone, but paul said for the over 800 bb the bbb's will dyno the same as drag pipes.
:clap:
Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: digitalhearing on August 18, 2008, 06:53:15 AM
Gene, maybe my rappy has got the "little man syndrom"   It just wants to pack around the big dog pipes  :lol:  Besides, my boy has been eyeing my pipes since he got his new Raptor.

Grant
Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: maxx on August 18, 2008, 10:28:39 AM
Attitude should be good for 2 more hp.
:)
Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: KBR on August 18, 2008, 04:14:34 PM
Here are the graphs.
Sorry for the delay.
I have not had a chance to test back to back against the Barkers yet, but I will soon enough.
The best I can do is compare the best running 6 mod with Barkers and this one.
They are not back to back the same bike however.
First is the same biek RW to DMC back to back.


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Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: KBR on August 18, 2008, 04:18:53 PM
Nevermind that.
As I looked over the runs there was other variables that would confuse the test.
We will need to just call this a DMC v Ron Wood test.
All I know for sure is I have never hit 60 on a Super 6 before the DMC pipes.
Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: russ-russ on August 18, 2008, 09:14:47 PM
Very interesting results.  It's nice to see DMC come back with a solid performer.
Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: Colorado700R on August 20, 2008, 03:58:56 PM
Subject has been split to keep Kam's Thread on track  :thumbs:

http://www.raptorsource.com/forum/index.php?topic=1578.0
Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: raptor660fam on August 23, 2008, 05:19:03 PM
Anyone have a picture of the packard pipe?  never heard of it... thx
Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: Diggs59 on August 23, 2008, 05:24:16 PM
Quote from: russ on August 18, 2008, 09:14:47 PM
Very interesting results.  It's nice to see DMC come back with a solid performer.

If at first you don't succeed.....just buy a set of Barkers, put your own cans on 'em....and call them new and improved.  :grin_nod:
Title: Re: DMC Duals Tested against Ron Wood single exhaust and PDL single
Post by: PDX Raptor on August 23, 2008, 06:18:47 PM
Quote from: raptor660fam on August 23, 2008, 05:19:03 PM
Anyone have a picture of the packard pipe?  never heard of it... thx

Da Joka was running this pipe on the bike he was selling. There are pics of it on the other forum.