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Title: How can I get more power across the band? More torque!?!?!
Post by: r00st on July 28, 2008, 02:51:35 PM
I have an 07 SE 700 with barkers/pcIII and the pro design K&N intake. It has good power, but I am looking for ways to increase the torque as much as possible!

I would also like to add more power across the band. I definitely want more down low, but dont want to sacrifice up top (and for sure do not want to sacrifice the bottom on a cam to get more top).

Is there a cam that will give me more power all over? (Is x-4 just a top end cam?) Torque is really a big deal for me, so the more the better!

I am thinking boring the tb, getting the adjustable ignition, the FCI intake (with airbox as I ride some wet stuff) and a cam will be enough power to satisfy me for awhile.

Also, what are the costs on the cam and the TB porting? (is there just one person doing it?)
Title: Re: How can I get more power across the band? More torque!?!?!
Post by: Krandall on July 29, 2008, 10:36:11 AM
PM Kenny @ KDS Racing for info on the TB boring!

As far as cams go. I went HC Stage 2 for 2 reasons. Loss on low end was minimal. gains on high end were out of this world. And spring upgrades arent required!


are you looking for power w/out splitting the engine?
Title: Re: How can I get more power across the band? More torque!?!?!
Post by: preddy08 on July 29, 2008, 10:39:25 AM
If you want it across the board then big cams and big compression is the ticket.


With big compression you loose a bit of top end and gain an ass load of bottom end. With big cams you loose a little bottom end and gain an ass load of top end. This way they cancle each other nicely and make a MONSTER!!!
Title: Re: How can I get more power across the band? More torque!?!?!
Post by: Colorado700R on July 29, 2008, 11:00:46 AM
I agree with the above suggestions, but I will say if you're not dyno tuned yet, that maybe the cheapest HP and TQ ticket.

Aaron
Title: Re: How can I get more power across the band? More torque!?!?!
Post by: r00st on July 29, 2008, 08:15:37 PM
Well I dont want to run race gas so 11.5:1 is about my max compression. I would prefer not going into the motor yet (well a cam is acceptable).

I have 5 bike lenghts on my buddies LTR but my other buddy is getting the athena big bore and some supporting mods, so I want to make sure im still ahead of him! So far I only have the crappy K&N pro flow intake (or whatever its called) with the barkers and PCIII. I have the evac valve and dynatek programmable on the way, and would like to have a cam and TB bore and then hit the dyno to get it all tuned up right.
Title: Re: How can I get more power across the band? More torque!?!?!
Post by: Krandall on July 29, 2008, 11:17:54 PM
HEY.. Nothin wrong w/ the proflow!!!  :lol:   
Title: Re: How can I get more power across the band? More torque!?!?!
Post by: Bert on July 29, 2008, 11:27:45 PM
r00st - you could check with the sponsors for a good price on a cam

Title: Re: How can I get more power across the band? More torque!?!?!
Post by: r00st on July 30, 2008, 12:41:09 AM
Lol ya the proflow seems decent mine is just the K&N and I dont really like K&N filters anymore (fan of foam).

I was thinking hard about getting the FCI, but only once I see dynos with the box for me to justify spending like 250ish on a new intake. If its just negligible (.5-1 hp/tq) than I will stick with what I have and get a fat Uni or Twin filter on that proflow adaptor before it gets tuned.

What cam do you all reccomend for my build? Barkers/ PcIII/ Proflow K&N/ Dynatek/ Evac & soon a TB bore.
Title: Re: How can I get more power across the band? More torque!?!?!
Post by: Colorado700R on July 30, 2008, 07:57:59 AM
Hotcams stage 3, or Megacycle x-4.  The HC3 will be less laborous.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: How can I get more power across the band? More torque!?!?!
Post by: r00st on July 30, 2008, 03:08:42 PM
Deos anybody know what kind of gains I will see (or maybe even a dyno) of adding just the HC3 to a big 6 build? (duals/intake/pcIII/evac/TB bore/dynatek)?

I would just like to see what it does to the power/torque curves and where the gains are at.
Title: Re: How can I get more power across the band? More torque!?!?!
Post by: Colorado700R on July 30, 2008, 03:23:34 PM
Post #6

http://www.raptorforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40961&highlight=KBM+dyno
Title: Re: How can I get more power across the band? More torque!?!?!
Post by: PDX Raptor on July 30, 2008, 03:36:27 PM
My bike is at the dyno as we speak. I added a HC3 and 11:1 piston. I'll let you guys know how it turns out.
Title: Re: How can I get more power across the band? More torque!?!?!
Post by: Peelz on July 30, 2008, 08:35:26 PM
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 30, 2008, 03:23:34 PM
Post #6

http://www.raptorforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40961&highlight=KBM+dyno

excellent comparison dyno chart. :thumbs:  I too prefer an average reading. You do not stay at the exact RPM that the power peaks.

Thanks for the link Colorado. :thumbs: