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Title: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: ghouck on September 18, 2010, 09:28:18 PM
Well, I'm going to do the whole shebangabang, LT +2 arms, front shocks, rearshock, +1 or +2 swinger, axle. I'm looking at Motowoz for the shocks, and anything of quality for the rest. What dealer do you guys recommend, I'm hoping for someone that can put together an entire package. Any help will be appreciated.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Peelz on September 18, 2010, 09:32:37 PM
I still like Elkas. Houser for a-arms Extended swingers really only good for drag racing. My opinion only but I have a weak motor..  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: ghouck on September 18, 2010, 09:42:17 PM
Thanks. I was thinking Elkas for a long time, but I'm seeing a LOT of complaints, and a LOT of praise for Motowoz. I read a few people talking about the adjustments not doing anything on some.

But either way, I'm more looking for a vendor than for what brand, I'm kinda set on Motowoz, and Houser is one brand I was hoping for. Thanks, Greg.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Gunz on September 20, 2010, 12:37:24 AM
I've got Motowoz on the front with +2.25 Housers. I liked my first set of Housers so much, I went with them again, says alot since they are nearly twice the price of everyone else. I have a Modquad swinger, but I would recommend SLC ( http://www.slcquadcustoms.com/ ). Kevin has a 3 warranty and will build whatever you want. My rear shock is a RaptorSE OEM shock, I had Josh Wiig at wiigstyle racing ( http://www.wiigstyleracing.com/ ) rebuild it for my weight, riding style and + 4 swinger. My rear axle is a Lonestar + 1-+4. ( http://www.lsracing.com/ ). A really nice adjustable axle, kinda on the heavier side but nice.


 
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Krandall on September 20, 2010, 08:21:06 AM
I've never rode a quad with motowoz. But everything I've heard and then some is they are top notch. Gunz, Socal Rappy, sand84, preddy, mad dog, either own or have rode quads w/ them and praise them :)
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Mad Dog on September 20, 2010, 08:33:01 AM
I am on my 3rd set of Elkas, but I'd swap for a set of Motowoz any day.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Peelz on September 20, 2010, 10:43:28 AM
I've never rode a quad with motowoz. But everything I've heard and then some is they are top notch. Gunz, Socal Rappy, sand84, preddy, mad dog, either own or have rode quads w/ them and praise them :)

preddy's bike has the reg travel elkas. I am still surprised how that thing rode. like buttah!

Motowoz looks cooler though. And rode great as well.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Spartan on September 20, 2010, 02:19:29 PM
Fox Float Evols.......:lol: I think TQS would be more than happy to set you up with a package deal on a-arms and shocks. I run Custom Axis shocks on ARS FX +2.25s (long travel with MGC) and love it...I would recommend doing the rear shock too cause I'm still on my stock rear setup and it sucks :lol:
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Danny T on September 20, 2010, 04:42:45 PM
Call kenneth @ KBR he has a used setup for sale!
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: txredxj on September 20, 2010, 07:02:52 PM
if you get the motowoz rear make sure you get the rezzy mounted up front. other wise you have to mount it under the grab bar and hinders your ability to run duals. i have the rear and it made a world of difference for me. i can actually ride further back on the seat over the whoops at a much faster speed. kbr or tqs can get you a package deal on most of the stuff.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: ghouck on September 21, 2010, 01:43:17 PM
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f you get the motowoz rear make sure you get the rezzy mounted up front

Do you mean a piggyback, or just mount the rez forward. I already have duals on the ride, so that will be an issue.

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Fox Float Evols

What's the deal with those? Some of the kids around here talk about them for quads and snowmachines, but to me they just don't look very strong.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Spartan on September 21, 2010, 01:44:52 PM
They are air shocks...Fox is one of the best shock makers in the industry, and most Baja runners have Fox shocks on their race trucks. If money wasn't an issue I would get a set of those hands down. I have never heard of any problems with them.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Krandall on September 21, 2010, 02:32:28 PM
its funny, you'll hear lots of mixed reviews about fox shocks. If you blow a seal, the shock is un-usable. But I'm yet to hear of anyone w/ that issue.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Spartan on September 21, 2010, 02:34:36 PM
How often do you hear about them blowing seals though? The only time I'd see that happening are extreme race environments and those teams would probably have a backup set...so for average everyday trail/track use that aren't ironman competitions should be fine.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Krandall on September 21, 2010, 02:45:50 PM
thats what I'm saying, There's a few people on here who always say if you blow a seal, your screwed. But I've never herad that happening to anyone.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: ghouck on September 21, 2010, 05:58:50 PM
Call kenneth @ KBR he has a used setup for sale!

How do I do that, I'm not familiar. Thanks, Greg.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: txredxj on September 21, 2010, 08:39:53 PM
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f you get the motowoz rear make sure you get the rezzy mounted up front

Do you mean a piggyback, or just mount the rez forward. I already have duals on the ride, so that will be an issue.


 yeah just get a longer rezzy line so you can mount it up front.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: ghouck on September 22, 2010, 03:54:21 PM
If you blow a seal

Leave my personal life out of it. . .

(yea, I know, old joke)
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Krandall on September 23, 2010, 08:29:26 AM
:rofl:

ba-dum-crish!
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: ghouck on September 24, 2010, 11:57:44 PM
I'm seriously considering the Evols and the PodiumX rear. Will the Podium x be tailor-made for my spec like they do elkas, or are they 'off the shelf' so to speak? I also see options on swingarms for with and without the link. I know what the link is, but don't know if I want to use it or not. Also, is whoever I get the rear shock from going to need to know if I use a link or not? The entire link thing confuses me. Thanks.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Spartan on September 25, 2010, 04:58:45 AM
They will adjust it to your specs. It should work with your stock link if you specify it.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: ghouck on September 25, 2010, 10:31:07 AM
Functionally, what's the difference between using a link and not using one? Thanks.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Spartan on September 25, 2010, 11:41:23 AM
Using a link allows more travel for the swing arm to go up and down. A solid mount is more for rigidity, drag/hillshooting so you can launch harder.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Alkire193 on September 25, 2010, 02:55:02 PM
Anytime you order a suspension they get it CLOSE to what you need. Your shocks get set in the ballpark of what you are looking for, so be specific. Race or fun, race and fun. weight (be honest fatty) and riding style (sand, trail, pavement, TT, sand and trail, pavement and TT, trail and TT...etc)

Once you receive the suspension you have to dial it in on your own time, to get it perfect, but from the factory you notice a difference right away.

FOX EVOL is a great suspension system, I have not heard of many (if any) failures. I do know that they are supposed to receive annual services like any other suspension. Other than that, they are a good product. As far as air shock failures, you will see Custom Axis leading the way. Their early model air shocks were in competition with FOX but they had many seal failures. Word is, their new air shocks are great! But Fox has the better track record. As for the Rear Podium X. It is a coil suspension, weight dependent spring with remote reservoir. You dont have to go top dollar FOX for the rear, motowoz or a re-worked stocker from WIGGStyle will do you just fine if you want to save some cash.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: ghouck on September 25, 2010, 04:02:28 PM
1. I'm not fat, I'm big boned. . .
2. What is 'tt'?
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: txredxj on September 25, 2010, 04:13:07 PM
tt is pretty much motorcross type races. flat track, ice racing, woods racing all fall under "tt". still not sure what tt means though, technical track?
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Alkire193 on September 25, 2010, 07:52:41 PM
Ive never looked into it, but I think a good description would be flat dirt/pavement races with Dunlop street tire things. Its more about speed than negotiating obstacles. But dont quote me.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Krandall on September 26, 2010, 09:35:08 AM
Tourist-Trophy.

TT is more of a spectator type racing.
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: ghouck on February 27, 2011, 12:20:57 PM
I've got Motowoz on the front with +2.25 Housers. I liked my first set of Housers so much, I went with them again, says alot since they are nearly twice the price of everyone else. I have a Modquad swinger, but I would recommend SLC ( http://www.slcquadcustoms.com/ ). Kevin has a 3 warranty and will build whatever you want. My rear shock is a RaptorSE OEM shock, I had Josh Wiig at wiigstyle racing ( http://www.wiigstyleracing.com/ ) rebuild it for my weight, riding style and + 4 swinger. My rear axle is a Lonestar + 1-+4. ( http://www.lsracing.com/ ). A really nice adjustable axle, kinda on the heavier side but nice.


 

slcquadcustoms seems to be out of business, or at least their website is down. Is there new contact info or a similar manufacturer?
Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Bert on February 27, 2011, 05:26:15 PM
tt is pretty much motorcross type races. flat track, ice racing, woods racing all fall under "tt". still not sure what tt means though, technical track?
Q. What does TT stand for?
A. TT stands for Tourist Trophy. TT is part of the Grand National Series and is much like road racing but with small high speed jumps. The coarse is designed with high speed and low speed right and left hand turns and is usually run on hard packed dirt/clay. TT quads are built light and fast.

TT races - see above definition

Super Moto races are TT but a mix of dirt & ashpalt

Flat track racing is "flat" whether its a road coarse or oval, tri-oval etc

Ice racing is "flat" whether its road coarse, oval, tri-oval etc.

MX self explanatory

Hare scramble  are conducted on closed course tracks which can vary from 2.5 to 40+ miles (8 to 64+km) in length. The terrain chosen for these events is wooded and fairly rugged in order to test the riders' skills and endurance. The majority of the course consists of a wooded, single and double width trail, with occasional pasture and sand crossings. An event may incorporate a short portion of a pre-existing motocross track. The natural terrain tests the riders' abilities to navigate through obstacles such as creek beds, logs, hills, mud, rocks and ruts.

Its all racing but like going to restaurant & ordering eggs. To me a TT track involves jumps



Title: Re: Looking to do theentire suspension on my '07, advice needed.
Post by: Bert on February 27, 2011, 05:29:40 PM
For A-arms, steering stems, swing arms, shocks.  Check them out.
http://www.jdperformance.net/