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Title: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: RoadGeneral on July 02, 2008, 05:39:49 PM
Are those lowering kits that are advertised on ebay any good? The ones that reposition the lower mount of the shock outwards on the lower A-frame. They say it will drop the front of the quad about 3". Same thing with the rear link. The 700R sits too high and seems "tippy" to me. Just wondering if they are worth the money.  ???
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Colorado700R on July 02, 2008, 05:42:17 PM
I've heard they work ok, but for me I put on YFZ shocks and unloaded some pre-loaded in the rear spring.  Total drop has been about 1 and 1/2 inches.  It allows me to trail ride, yet the lower CG really helps in the corners.

In my opinion a 3 inch drop is too much

Aaron
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: RoadGeneral on July 02, 2008, 07:32:10 PM
I've heard they work ok, but for me I put on YFZ shocks and unloaded some pre-loaded in the rear spring.  Total drop has been about 1 and 1/2 inches.  It allows me to trail ride, yet the lower CG really helps in the corners.

In my opinion a 3 inch drop is too much

Aaron


Thanks, Aaron. I really like the ride of my stock 700R. I have unloaded the front springs as much as possible and backed the rear off almost to the end. Nice and soft. Much better than my Z400. My shoulders don't ache after a days riding. I have a pair of YFZ shocks, but haven't as yet installed them. Sounds like that may be the way to go. I rarely ever trail ride, mostly sand ride, and not too worried about ground clearence.  

On another note, that single cylinder 700 "thumper" sure gives me "thumb-buzz" in a hurry. I am looking into an anti-vibe steering stem and maybe anti-vibe risers. I rode a YFZ that had both and it was really smooth.

Later, Steve
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Bert on July 03, 2008, 07:26:29 AM
Making the quad wider would help stability
RPM Dominator II axle &  A-arms  :lol:
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Bert on July 03, 2008, 07:32:44 AM
Just remembered about flipping the rear shock mount, that lowers the rear about 1.5" I think
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Peelz on July 03, 2008, 08:17:00 AM
the lowering kit on the front makes them look silly IMO.  It is a must for ice racing/flat track, though.
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 16, 2008, 07:00:00 AM
Here is a couple of Pics of Berts quad when he lowered it for Ice racing.

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Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 16, 2008, 07:01:28 AM
Here's the front few.

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Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Bert on July 16, 2008, 07:25:53 AM
Dang that's a nice looking quad  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 16, 2008, 07:32:08 AM
It is all right isn't it :thumbs:
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Bert on July 16, 2008, 07:41:45 AM
Compared to  others quads at ice racing my quad really isn't that low  ::)
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 16, 2008, 08:27:25 AM
Not until you sit on it :lol:
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: RoadGeneral on July 16, 2008, 08:44:57 AM
Do you have extended A-arms as well? The pic of the front is great, it looks very wide and low. Is the rear wider than stock too?
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 16, 2008, 10:25:08 AM
The rims are just flipped in the front, They are stock A-arms
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: NaturalRaptor on July 16, 2008, 11:45:03 AM
Just remembered about flipping the rear shock mount, that lowers the rear about 1.5" I think

 I have heard of people flipping the rear link and it does not change the ground clearance. It was stated that they had a better center of gravity. I am going to try it when I get my extended swinger later.
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Colorado700R on July 16, 2008, 11:50:29 AM
doesn't effect the ground clearance, but the overall rear suspension travel will be limited.

Aaron
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Bert on July 16, 2008, 09:23:57 PM
Not until you sit on it :lol:
I might be a fat ass but at least I don't have a big head  :poke:
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Bert on July 16, 2008, 09:27:56 PM
Do you have extended A-arms as well? The pic of the front is great, it looks very wide and low. Is the rear wider than stock too?
Stock a-arms with lowering kit from CRJ front and rear. Rear link flipped as well

Front rims flipped for width

G-Force extended rear wheel hubs in back (+3.5")

Stock rims on all 4 corners
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Colorado700R on July 16, 2008, 09:28:10 PM
Not until you sit on it :lol:
I might be a fat ass but at least I don't have a big head  :poke:

You were smart enough NOT to buy a Polaris  :thumbs:

 :lol:
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Bert on July 16, 2008, 09:36:28 PM
Yes I was  :lol:
DK Polarass525 however likes being the underdog.  Is 2nd place dusty  ???
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Bert on July 16, 2008, 09:43:39 PM
Raptor & Z400

(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee267/tqf1E/Garrison%20Ice%20Racing/RaptorZ4002.jpg)


You can see how low some of these guys are
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee267/tqf1E/Garrison%20Ice%20Racing/Stage1-1.jpg)

(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee267/tqf1E/Garrison%20Ice%20Racing/Garrison5.jpg)


Pic from the back, Raptor with 20" tires & Z400 with 18"s
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee267/tqf1E/Garrison%20Ice%20Racing/Reartire2.jpg)

Close up with the front tire flipped
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee267/tqf1E/Garrison%20Ice%20Racing/Fronttire.jpg)
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 16, 2008, 09:49:18 PM
Yes I was  :lol:
DK Polarass525 however likes being the underdog.  Is 2nd place dusty  ???
I don't know how the dust taste, if I remember right the Outlaw has won a few more times than it has lost to you  :grin_nod: Thats without a custom tune and a guy with a big head jetting it.  :lol:
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: RoadGeneral on July 16, 2008, 10:06:35 PM
 Thats without a custom tune and a guy with a big head jetting it.  :lol:
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Jetting?? What's that, some kind of "yester-tech"?   :lol:
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 16, 2008, 10:07:32 PM
Me jetting it. :lol:
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Bert on July 16, 2008, 10:11:37 PM
Me jetting it. :lol:
You did good for a guy that's mostly thumbs

Yes I was  :lol:
DK Polarass525 however likes being the underdog.  Is 2nd place dusty  ???
I don't know how the dust taste, if I remember right the Outlaw has won a few more times than it has lost to you  :grin_nod: Thats without a custom tune and a guy with a big head jetting it.  :lol:

If your talking drags then I remember a different story. Polarass525, you got a couple beers in you helping your memory?
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 16, 2008, 10:13:33 PM
I think you must be talking about the Pred, I know you smoke a lot in that basement of yours, but come on Bert concentrate ::)
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Bert on July 16, 2008, 11:28:31 PM
I think you must be talking about the Pred, I know you smoke a lot in that basement of yours, but come on Bert concentrate ::)
If you think your quad is faster than my Rappy you should bring your quad home on your vacation & prove it, enough excuses  :jaw:
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Colorado700R on July 16, 2008, 11:30:49 PM
I think you must be talking about the Pred, I know you smoke a lot in that basement of yours, but come on Bert concentrate ::)
If you think your quad is faster than my Rappy you should bring your quad home on your vacation & prove it, enough excuses  :jaw:

I've stomped 3 Outlaw 525s, with my baby 2 1/2 mod rappy  ;) this summer already  :grin_nod:


Polaris.....It's what's for dinner

 :lol:
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Bert on July 16, 2008, 11:32:47 PM
Are those lowering kits that are advertised on ebay any good? The ones that reposition the lower mount of the shock outwards on the lower A-frame. They say it will drop the front of the quad about 3". Same thing with the rear link. The 700R sits too high and seems "tippy" to me. Just wondering if they are worth the money.  ???
I bought CRJ knock offs from EBay, about $80 for front & rear I think.  I don't know about trail riding but flat tracking they work well for the price  :thumbs:

Good post Colorado  :rofl: 
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 17, 2008, 09:54:30 AM
I think where are a few witnesses that you got spanked not once, but three times. + plus got beat by a 450r
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: RoadGeneral on July 17, 2008, 07:25:18 PM
This Polaris guy just won't quit!! ;)

Pretty bold for being on a Raptor forum. I know Polaris advertises that the Outlaw 525 is the fastest big bore quad out there........................but, pleeeease.................they just won't run with a 700R; no how, no way.

Nuff said.
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Colorado700R on July 17, 2008, 07:28:24 PM
This Polaris guy just won't quit!! ;)

Pretty bold for being on a Raptor forum. I know Polaris advertises that the Outlaw 525 is the fastest big bore quad out there........................but, pleeeease.................they just won't run with a 700R; no how, no way.

Nuff said.

 :rofl:  Polarass is a good shit  :thumbs:

He takes and dishes shit very well.
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 17, 2008, 07:32:21 PM
Polaris says its the fastest accelerating quad out there not the fastest quad. I've been beat be more than my fair share of Raptors, but have beaten a few also. I know that the Raptor is faster when built and I can't even argue that point. I think old bert even admitted on RF. I really don't care I'm just giving Bert shit.
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Colorado700R on July 17, 2008, 07:35:01 PM
Polaris also set another record.












































































Fastest to issue a recall!!! 
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 17, 2008, 07:38:38 PM
Fastest to have all the bolts fall out of it :lol:
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Colorado700R on July 17, 2008, 07:40:09 PM
Fastest to have all the bolts fall out of it :lol:


Fastest in round trips to and from the local service department.   :rofl:
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 17, 2008, 07:43:41 PM
+1 Gotta love them at least there trying
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 17, 2008, 07:44:24 PM
09s preview comes out on the 24th hope they address some of the problems
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Colorado700R on July 17, 2008, 07:45:11 PM
+1 Gotta love them at least there trying

The Snap-on tool truckers must love the Polaris shops  :lol:
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 17, 2008, 07:46:30 PM
and the Metric bolt companies love Polaris customers
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Colorado700R on July 17, 2008, 07:46:59 PM
09s preview comes out on the 24th hope they address some of the problems

Maybe they'll be dumb like Yamaha (YFZ) and not add FI to there line up :mad:
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: RoadGeneral on July 17, 2008, 07:47:46 PM
To be honest I looked at the Polaris Outlaw 525 IRS for a long time before buying my used '06 Raptor. I also looked at the new Honda 700XX. I really liked that IRS thing, but I ride mostly in the sand and decided to go with Yamaha. It's fast and powerful. It also has a tendency to be a "wheelie machine" and has a high G/C making it a little tippy. But Yamaha has it right.
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 17, 2008, 07:49:10 PM
IRS is nice but the maintenance sometimes does out weigh the good
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: kyledvor61 on July 17, 2008, 08:01:14 PM
09s preview comes out on the 24th hope they address some of the problems

Maybe they'll be dumb like Yamaha (YFZ) and not add FI to there line up :mad:
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
but then again :clap: since im not outdated :lol:
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 17, 2008, 08:07:57 PM
I think KTM will have to do it first, before it trickles down to Polaris
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Colorado700R on July 17, 2008, 08:09:50 PM
I think KTM will have to do it first, before it trickles down to Polaris


hmmm, not sure on that.  Polaris has been doing FI on sleds for awhile, not that hard to adapt
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 18, 2008, 01:13:59 PM
I really don't think KTM will let them thats what I meant
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Colorado700R on July 18, 2008, 01:33:12 PM
I really don't think KTM will let them thats what I meant

Yeah, thought of that too, but since they've teamed for their independent products, I bet KTMs will get or design their FI system from Polaris.

Aaron
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: Bert on July 18, 2008, 10:38:56 PM
I really don't think KTM will let them thats what I meant

Yeah, thought of that too, but since they've teamed for their independent products, I bet KTMs will get or design their FI system from Polaris.

Aaron

That would be interesting  ???
Title: Re: Lowering Kits for 700R
Post by: FoundArealQuad on July 19, 2008, 12:20:53 AM
KTM has fuel injection on some of there bikes, I really don't think they would need Polaris's help. I think there engineers can help there selves on that one. KTM has great products, but Polaris has ok products with KTM motors.