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Re: Ever wonder what will set ported heads apart?
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2009, 09:12:39 AM »
Does my current head need to be sent back to you for modification to fit this cam?

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Re: Ever wonder what will set ported heads apart?
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2009, 09:16:52 AM »
Yes. We had to get a balance on the geometry, because just adding lobe height was giving us screwy geometry and high RPM instability on anything rated over .500" lift (not to mention crappy thinned rockers)
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Re: Ever wonder what will set ported heads apart?
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2009, 09:23:13 AM »
Hrmm... Just let me know when you ditch the RJ aaron. :nod: :clap: :clap: :clap:


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Re: Ever wonder what will set ported heads apart?
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2009, 09:23:44 AM »
Lemme know when your ready kenny ;)

I'll try and saving some $$

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Re: Ever wonder what will set ported heads apart?
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2009, 09:24:23 AM »
KDS Parts flowing like the nile..

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Re: Ever wonder what will set ported heads apart?
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2009, 09:27:51 AM »
Here is the old geometry @.500" lift. It's hard to see, but the adjuster is tipped up on the edge and pulled almost off the valve.


Here is the new geometry at .500" lift! WAY better!

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Re: Ever wonder what will set ported heads apart?
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2009, 09:30:08 AM »
KDS Parts flowing like the nile..

Lets get em' movin!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Thanks bro!! It is about to change dramatically...... I wasn't hiding while I was off the forums!! There was actual work getting done :clap:
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Re: Ever wonder what will set ported heads apart?
« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2009, 09:48:55 AM »
Do you change the length of the guide's or valve's for this big of a cam?
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Re: Ever wonder what will set ported heads apart?
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2009, 09:57:03 AM »
Yes on the valves, but I really would like to keep the rest under wraps. This took a LOT of time and money to figure out. So you understand why I don't wanna give it all away to be copied just yet......... 8) I at least wanna sell enough to recover some of the R&D before people start making a knock-off :'( :lol:
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Re: Ever wonder what will set ported heads apart?
« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2009, 10:13:15 AM »
Yes on the valves, but I really would like to keep the rest under wraps. This took a LOT of time and money to figure out. So you understand why I don't wanna give it all away to be copied just yet......... 8) I at least wanna sell enough to recover some of the R&D before people start making a knock-off :'( :lol:

KBR and OMW have already done it. I was under the impression a person could just put a big cam in and be good to go....I was wrong. Just trying to learn more before my TRF879 goes back together.
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Re: Ever wonder what will set ported heads apart?
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2009, 10:18:39 AM »
What kind of lift?
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Re: Ever wonder what will set ported heads apart?
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2009, 10:24:08 AM »
What kind of lift?

Not sure...enough to warant(sp?) altered guide's and valve's(length). Wish I knew more, but I don't.
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Re: Ever wonder what will set ported heads apart?
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2009, 10:24:18 AM »
Are those to pics reversed by chance? first one is the "good one" and the 2nd is the bad one?

or am I stupid. :lol:


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Re: Ever wonder what will set ported heads apart?
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2009, 10:36:42 AM »
You're stupid :rofl: No, the second one is perpendicular to the valve which has far more even contact during the most critical part of the valve cycle..... when the spring is at it's max pressure :thumbs:
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Re: Ever wonder what will set ported heads apart?
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2009, 10:43:38 AM »
 :lol:
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