Just got back from colorado and had a BLAST riding with Troywcc. You guys are deffinately a fun bunch of guys to ride with!! They would give you the shirt off there back, or should I say the paddles off there bike.
Troy let me try out his set of haulers to try and chase down a 804 raptor, and the bikes were pretty close. I had 21-11-8 8 paddles and stock swingarm, the 804 was 22-11-8 10 paddle with a +4 swingarm. It pretty much came down to the start. I will tell you right off the bat that I am a shitty drag racer and had no practice with Troy's paddles and racing at that altitude. Between Troy racing and I racing him, we came to the conclusion that my bike is a tad bit faster than the 804 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
I don't think Troy wanted to give my bike back though........LOL!!! Racing in the rough stuff was cake walk!
Troy, you da man. Thanks for the hospitolity!
Looked a bit rainy that weekend. I didnt get shit for pics, but oh well.
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Though we were'nt bringing up some topics TROY!!! 8) :rofl: :rofl:
While were on the subject
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Dead mans wash is pretty fun without paddles....LOL
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Oh, and by the way the old lady said yes, the day before!! :clap:
congratulations on your funeral..... urghh i mean engagement :rofl:
Quote from: darkside94 on July 28, 2008, 07:28:28 PM
congratulations on your funeral..... urghh i mean engagement :rofl:
Na, she is totally into riding and knows how much I have into my quad. When she gets out of school shes getting a RZR, I cant wait to mod one of those.
Congrats on the yes :thumbs: You are a lucky man much like myself, I married WAY up. I'm glad you guys came out, sorry the turn out sucked. I totally knew those pics were on the way cause I deserve them. It was a good time for sure and I had a blast playing on your bike, that suspension will eat ANYTHING in it's path. As soon as I get this motor to cooperate with me, that will be my next step on my bike, your's felt like a caddy.
Good choice on the RZR too, my ol lady loves hers, as do I :thumbs:
well congrats for real and i wish the best for both of you :thumbs:
Here is a shitty pic of the track I hit up. I racked the SHIT out of my self on one of the doubles. My balls still hurt a bit. Thanks darkside, shitty thing is her ring cost as much as a used RZR :mad: :mad: :mad:
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So how was the track all and all? I figured up there it would be a killer setup.
Congrats on your Engagement Preddy :thumbs:
Quote from: troywcc on July 28, 2008, 07:37:10 PM
So how was the track all and all? I figured up there it would be a killer setup.
Oh, it was bad ass. We dont have anything like it around here. They built it into the hills. I wish I would have got a good pic of the jumps. There is one that had to of been 40-50 ft long. FUN AS HELL!!!
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Quote from: Colorado700R on July 28, 2008, 07:38:34 PM
Congrats on your Engagement Preddy :thumbs:
Thanks man! Good talkin to ya, wish you could have made it out, but I understand the family thing.
I may have to go up there and try it out, we were trying to find a good place in the mountains for a weekend extended family trip where everybody can do what they want and hang out together in the meantime
Quote from: troywcc on July 28, 2008, 07:42:46 PM
I may have to go up there and try it out, we were trying to find a good place in the mountains for a weekend extended family trip where everybody can do what they want and hang out together in the meantime
Its 10 bucks to ride there for the day. Right as you turn off of HWY 40 onto HWY 125, on you right hand side. Pretty fun for the day, but thats about it.
The drive back from Walden was interesting to say the least!! It was pitch dark out side (no moon) and we saw/about hit 12+ dears. That hour and half drive turned into 2+ hours. Not use to that shit comin from nebraska.
Hows "Scotty big bawls" doin after a night in the camper with you :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Looks like a good time :thumbs:
It sounds like your bike ran well at that altitude 8)
He's a little sore, had to send him home with a big ol bottle of butt be numb. What happens at Walden stays at Walden, lol.
He actually really is sore between all the beer he drank all day and all the hillclimbs gone wrong and his buddies running him over with their quads :rofl:
Quote from: RaptorRandy on July 28, 2008, 07:59:47 PM
Looks like a good time :thumbs:
It sounds like your bike ran well at that altitude 8)
It ran well enough to beat an 804 8)
I will eat my words and say that it did adjust for some elevation. Coming off my previous experience it was hard to say that it does.....ya know 8)
Quote from: troywcc on July 28, 2008, 08:02:57 PM
He's a little sore, had to send him home with a big ol bottle of butt be numb. What happens at Walden stays at Walden, lol.
LOL, its good to see that nebraskins are'nt the only ones that act that way....LOL.
Definately a fun group to ride with.
I know what you're saying on the last trip. Your bike runs very good with the way it's setup. Just think of the killer top end you can gain with a Dynatek and a set of duals of your choice. On the other hand, is it worth it? It's plenty strong now.
Quote from: troywcc on July 28, 2008, 08:11:39 PM
I know what you're saying on the last trip. Your bike runs very good with the way it's setup. Just think of the killer top end you can gain with a Dynatek and a set of duals of your choice. On the other hand, is it worth it? It's plenty strong now.
I love the power band as it is now, and I am running out of things to do to it. So I think that I may add a custom dyna map and be done with it. I like the RE piston, but dont know if I want to spend the money when I already have a nice piston. I will probabally toss a set of rings in once a year and be done with it. Its already proven its self this year to be reliable so I better not start f'in with it. Although that hot rods +5 crank is lookin good. It would be nice to replace the crank bearings while doing that too. After seeing what happened to your bike the piece of mind would be worth it. I would have the crank reworked and trued to my build.
Yeah I shit myself when I felt how hammered that crank bearing was, no wonder I wasn't impressed with my throttle response, lol.
Quote from: troywcc on July 28, 2008, 08:27:10 PM
Yeah I shit myself when I felt how hammered that crank bearing was, no wonder I wasn't impressed with my throttle response, lol.
Other than it locking up is there anyother symptoms the bike gave you? Vibrations, knocks???? what happened to the motor, and why did it give?
Not a one, I rode it for awhile just putting around with the occassional bang through the gears and it felt fine. We went to the hillclimbs and watched all the drunks doing crazy stuff and my bike cooled down during that period. When I fired it back up and went back towards camp it died and didn't want to start cause the battery went dead. When we pull started it I took off again and the throttle response was a little off, right after I noticed that it just made a high pitched noise and was all over but the crying :'(
Quote from: troywcc on July 28, 2008, 08:34:49 PM
Not a one, I rode it for awhile just putting around with the occassional bang through the gears and it felt fine. We went to the hillclimbs and watched all the drunks doing crazy stuff and my bike cooled down during that period. When I fired it back up and went back towards camp it died and didn't want to start cause the battery went dead. When we pull started it I took off again and the throttle response was a little off, right after I noticed that it just made a high pitched noise and was all over but the crying :'(
I dont want to hear that! I'm sure that the compression is'nt helping, but could not have been the only reason.
I looked at my crank right before I put it back together and thought it was getting more discolored than it was the last time I did the topend. I didn't worry too much about it though and put it back together. John at Racer's Edge and Kenny both think it was just timing that it went out and the added compression just helped push it along. Kenny had only heard of one other one that did that and I'm not sure I've heard of any either so I'm sure it's not a common problem at all.
Also my motor has been rode hard since 06, it's been out every chance I could get to ride and it drag races and hill climbs most of that time without much of a break. You said my quad has seen better days, it was the day before I bought it, lol.
Quote from: troywcc on July 28, 2008, 08:42:10 PM
I looked at my crank right before I put it back together and thought it was getting more discolored than it was the last time I did the topend. I didn't worry too much about it though and put it back together. John at Racer's Edge and Kenny both think it was just timing that it went out and the added compression just helped push it along. Kenny had only heard of one other one that did that and I'm not sure I've heard of any either so I'm sure it's not a common problem at all.
I was talking to rocket facotry about a possible build and I told them that I wanted to keep it reliable as possible and they said that crank bearings are pretty rare. They said that that only happened to the wheelie kings, due to lack of oiling.
:clap: Congrats on the engagement Preddy. B..B..B..B....But what about the meth production? What will she think? :rofl:
Looks like some nice riding. :thumbs:
Quote from: preddy08 on July 28, 2008, 08:53:58 PM
They said that that only happened to the wheelie kings, due to lack of oiling.
Ha ha ha ha.....thats TOTALLY Troy :P :P Sucks you busted your bike again Troy. Are you practicing splitting the cases for mine ;) ;)
Glad you had a good time Preddy! Was the 804 the blue one?
sure was, and had F-8 front end.
Dude, I hope you're kidding about the wheelie king thing, my front end never hits the ground. If that's the case I know how that happened. If I ride 20 miles, my front tires signed on for about 2 of that. So what is the answer to the oiling problem? I cannot ride if I cannot wheelie, I might as well sell my bike.
Quote from: preddy08 on July 28, 2008, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: RaptorRandy on July 28, 2008, 07:59:47 PM
Looks like a good time :thumbs:
It sounds like your bike ran well at that altitude 8)
It ran well enough to beat an 804 8)
I will eat my words and say that it did adjust for some elevation. Coming off my previous experience it was hard to say that it does.....ya know 8)
:owned:
Quote from: kyledvor61 on July 28, 2008, 10:33:31 PM
Quote from: preddy08 on July 28, 2008, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: RaptorRandy on July 28, 2008, 07:59:47 PM
Looks like a good time :thumbs:
It sounds like your bike ran well at that altitude 8)
It ran well enough to beat an 804 8)
I will eat my words and say that it did adjust for some elevation. Coming off my previous experience it was hard to say that it does.....ya know 8)
:owned:
Hey he admitted he was wrong, I respect someone way more when they recieve the correct information and change their opinion than someone who will never change their opinion because it is thiers. That was a slow ass 804 though, lol.
Quote from: troywcc on July 28, 2008, 10:49:35 PM
Quote from: kyledvor61 on July 28, 2008, 10:33:31 PM
Quote from: preddy08 on July 28, 2008, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: RaptorRandy on July 28, 2008, 07:59:47 PM
Looks like a good time :thumbs:
It sounds like your bike ran well at that altitude 8)
It ran well enough to beat an 804 8)
I will eat my words and say that it did adjust for some elevation. Coming off my previous experience it was hard to say that it does.....ya know 8)
:owned:
Hey he admitted he was wrong, I respect someone way more when they recieve the correct information and change their opinion than someone who will never change their opinion because it is thiers.
Couldn't agree more :thumbs: I say when we finally do meet up, we split a case and find out if elevation affects our alchol tolerence :grin_nod:
I agree 100% Or we could go to Omaha and drink like 5 cases because we are getting so much air we could drink like heroes, lol.
Quote from: troywcc on July 28, 2008, 10:49:35 PM
Hey he admitted he was wrong, I respect someone way more when they recieve the correct information and change their opinion than someone who will never change their opinion because it is thiers. That was a slow ass 804 though, lol.
:thumbs:
Haha yea I am pretty surprised Troy and I keep up with that guy pretty well. I think Kiel's stock stroke, stock bore would be really really close to him :rofl:
Aj, I think me, you, and Preddy's bike are all within a bike or two now. Kiel will smoke us because of weight and he can definitely ride well. Kiel would beat the blue 804 without a doubt. He told me he put a bike length on the Mooseknuckle 812 the last time they raced. That goes to show you the discussions we have had about dyno numbers, they don't mean shit in the real world. Not to take anything away from Kiel's bike, it runs like a scalded dog for sure.
I hear Jason is coming to Colorado next week with the Racer's Edge bike, I think that will be a very very hard bike to keep up with for anyone local. In my opinion, the RE guys are now the ones to beat. Don't take offense to that statement, it is only my humble opinion, but they have been kicking serious ass and taking names.
Nice!! Do you know when RE will be here?
Do they have a long rod stroker yet??? I am ready to stroke this thing and bump up compression!! Oh wait...and $$ too :D
Aj, you need to quit messing around and go straight to the 934 and throw some nos on there while you are at it :thumbs:
Looks like you had a great time. And congrats on the yes. And here I thought she might be smarter then that.
:lol:
Quote from: troywcc on July 28, 2008, 11:11:23 PM
Aj, I think me, you, and Preddy's bike are all within a bike or two now. Kiel will smoke us because of weight and he can definitely ride well. Kiel would beat the blue 804 without a doubt. He told me he put a bike length on the Mooseknuckle 812 the last time they raced. That goes to show you the discussions we have had about dyno numbers, they don't mean shit in the real world. Not to take anything away from Kiel's bike, it runs like a scalded dog for sure.
Kiel doesn't count, he only weigh's 4lbs :lol:
Quote from: preddy08 on July 28, 2008, 08:06:45 PM
Quote from: RaptorRandy on July 28, 2008, 07:59:47 PM
Looks like a good time :thumbs:
It sounds like your bike ran well at that altitude 8)
It ran well enough to beat an 804 8)
I will eat my words and say that it did adjust for some elevation. Coming off my previous experience it was hard to say that it does.....ya know 8)
Just for the record, I'm framing this post and putting it on my wall :lol:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :clap: :clap:
Troy, AJ, Keil,
I'll be up at Walden Friday-Sunday afternoon, if you're available :thumbs:
Aaron
Keep in mind my previous experience with elevation change.
Quote from: preddy08 on July 29, 2008, 08:37:27 AM
Keep in mind my previous experience with elevation change.
We need a picture of your face Shawn so we can submit it to Websters. It needs to go next to the definition of
Stubborn :lol:
JK
Aaron
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 29, 2008, 08:39:23 AM
Quote from: preddy08 on July 29, 2008, 08:37:27 AM
Keep in mind my previous experience with elevation change.
We need a picture of your face Shawn so we can submit it to Websters. It needs to go next to the definition of Stubborn
:lol:
JK
Aaron
Hey I'll admit that it ran way better than I thought it was going to. I was plesently suprised.
Quote from: preddy08 on July 29, 2008, 08:40:45 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 29, 2008, 08:39:23 AM
Quote from: preddy08 on July 29, 2008, 08:37:27 AM
Keep in mind my previous experience with elevation change.
We need a picture of your face Shawn so we can submit it to Websters. It needs to go next to the definition of Stubborn
:lol:
JK
Aaron
Hey I'll admit that it ran way better than I thought it was going to. I was plesently suprised.
Well, considering you were running with some healthy builds from the area that have been tuned at altitude I think it did damn good :thumbs:
Technical question for you guys with motor builds. When you go to walden, does your cooling fan run allot?
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 29, 2008, 08:53:00 AM
Technical question for you guys with motor builds. When you go to walden, does your cooling fan run allot?
Mine was on more than usual, but I had my old lady on the back or I was drag racing.
Quote from: preddy08 on July 29, 2008, 09:01:00 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 29, 2008, 08:53:00 AM
Technical question for you guys with motor builds. When you go to walden, does your cooling fan run allot?
Mine was on more than usual, but I had my old lady on the back or I was drag racing.
was it constinent like a 450, or still on and off.
Aaron
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 29, 2008, 09:05:32 AM
Quote from: preddy08 on July 29, 2008, 09:01:00 AM
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 29, 2008, 08:53:00 AM
Technical question for you guys with motor builds. When you go to walden, does your cooling fan run allot?
Mine was on more than usual, but I had my old lady on the back or I was drag racing.
was it constinent like a 450, or still on and off.
Aaron
I never got over 210. The 450's that I ride with, there fans never run.
My fan usually doesn't run that often, and I'm usually drag racing or hill climbing all the time. It's definitely off and on. It could be worse, on a Predator if you even mention the word hot, the fan comes on.
Quote from: Colorado700R on July 29, 2008, 07:55:50 AM
Troy, AJ, Keil,
I'll be up at Walden Friday-Sunday afternoon, if you're available :thumbs:
Aaron
I'm pretty sure I'm out of the loop for at least a couple of weeks by the time I get a crank replaced. We'll see, maybe I can get lucky and get it back together.
Quote from: troywcc on July 29, 2008, 09:21:11 AM
My fan usually doesn't run that often, and I'm usually drag racing or hill climbing all the time. It's definitely off and on. It could be worse, on a Predator if you even mention the word hot, the fan comes on.
True that. Predators fans are always running, but that is because they are set to turn on 20 degrees sooner.
That would make sense then, we have quite a few guys running them and it seems like if they run for a minute the fan is on. It only gets annoying when they shut them off.
The reason I ask is becuase I'm thinking of uping my thermostat to a higher temp to improve overall efficency
Aaron
I did that on my turbo four stroke snowmobile. Polaris had it setup to run at 150 degrees all the time and said they wouldn't warranty it if you went to a higher temperature. I found a 180 degree thermostat at napa that fit a geo metro and threw it in. It solved alot of problems the machine was having fouling plugs and having gas in the oil, so the oil levels were rising. The people that went up to this thermostat were happy, the people that didn't are still taking their machines in trying to figure it out ???
Quote from: troywcc on July 29, 2008, 10:06:42 AM
I did that on my turbo four stroke snowmobile. Polaris had it setup to run at 150 degrees all the time and said they wouldn't warranty it if you went to a higher temperature. I found a 180 degree thermostat at napa that fit a geo metro and threw it in. It solved alot of problems the machine was having fouling plugs and having gas in the oil, so the oil levels were rising. The people that went up to this thermostat were happy, the people that didn't are still taking their machines in trying to figure it out ???
Not sure if thats something you want to do on a performance motor that will be running in HOT weather.
Quote from: preddy08 on July 29, 2008, 10:40:43 AM
Quote from: troywcc on July 29, 2008, 10:06:42 AM
I did that on my turbo four stroke snowmobile. Polaris had it setup to run at 150 degrees all the time and said they wouldn't warranty it if you went to a higher temperature. I found a 180 degree thermostat at napa that fit a geo metro and threw it in. It solved alot of problems the machine was having fouling plugs and having gas in the oil, so the oil levels were rising. The people that went up to this thermostat were happy, the people that didn't are still taking their machines in trying to figure it out ???
Not sure if thats something you want to do on a performance motor that will be running in HOT weather.
I can't see a 10-15 degree bump hurting a Raptor that seems to run very cool, I think monitoring the fan operation will be the key to seeing if it's getting scary.
Aaron
If I were to up the temp of the thermostat, I would put on a SPAL fan on that moves more CFM. Just incase thing got really hot fast.
Put that RE 14:1 piston in there, that extra compression should help keep things cozy and warm 8)